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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: What is a 'flat' and 'round' Earth?
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 09:13:59 PM »I'd love to see some credentials. Anyone?YOU are the one claiming you know the truth about these balloons. YOU are the one who should be providing evidence to support the claim.
What kind of credentials do you expect that we need to just ask you to back up your "facts" with something better than your "guesses" and information you don't have?
You think satellites are fake and everything they do is actually being done by a fleet of weather balloons? Fine. Prove it. Or even just give some evidence to support it. It doesn't have to be conclusive, but if you can't do any better than daydream fantasies that you imagine might be the way the world works, then you could do us all a favor and scale back your unwarranted condescension and stop embarrassing yourself in a conversation with people who actually know what they're talking about.
I'm still waiting.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 05:48:24 PM »
I'd love to see some credentials. Anyone?
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 02:08:51 PM »Because when I mentioned Project Loon you said - "It's on the internet so it must be true"But now you even claim that they don't provide these services with balloons. You should really make up your mind.
You're putting words in my mouth now. Why?
I can see there only one thing - you implicating that Project Loon isn't true. But Project Loon provides these kind of services you mentioned in relation with balloons. So, what I should think then? Do they provide these services wiht balloons or not? And where you can get info about them if Project Loon is ... I don't know, fake? Can you at last provide some information about these who provide it and some technical specifications and other information and not just some pictures of random balloons.
Project Loon is most likely a red herring project. I would need to research it more. I am just naturally distrustful of everything on the internet, as we all should be.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 01:10:41 PM »But now you even claim that they don't provide these services with balloons. You should really make up your mind.
You're putting words in my mouth now. Why?
I never said these services didn't exist. They exist. They're just a racket. They're all the same service albeit tiered differently for profit.
"You don't get any service in the mountains? Why don't you upgrade to the SUPER SATELLITE PACKAGE for only $199.99 a month! Good goy!"
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 12:50:27 PM »I kind of hoped that you may find the Project Loon and present that as viable option but you didn't even have ability to find it on internet. Kind of sad.
"It's on the internet so it must be true"
^ this is what REers actually believe.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 12:38:23 PM »Yes it does! Cell phone towers have a radius around them and dont cover every place on earth. As for satellite phones they work almost every place on earth even in the middle of the oceans which definitely dont have cell towers.
You lack reading comprehension. They don't need cell towers. There are also balloons that function as what you call "satellites". They are similar to weather balloons in design.
Normal "Cell service" that degrades in certain areas (mountains, to use Sokarul's example) is simply a signal that is ONLY using cell towers. A "satellite" based signal uses 4G Balloons and other technology, which allows it to work even in isolated areas.
Um... Sir.... Have you been to the mountains? There is no 4G service there... No Cell Service... No FM Radio, Some AM Radio depending on where you are or time of day... and Satellite Radio and phones and Garmins work like a champ...
Ah, I see you've fallen for the "these services are actually different" lie.
$$$$
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 12:30:05 PM »Seriously? That's the best you can come up with after building an entire argument on a foundation of "I would guess" and "I don't have that information" and then calling other people intellectually dishonest?I already got a clear response to my question. No one in this thread can provide any credentials that show they are an authority on weather balloons, GPS, or anything of that nature. There's no reason to respond. They have shown their intellectual dishonesty. They are frauds who think googling the answers to all life's questions will show them the way. Trusting others over their own senses. Pathetic.The only one who needs any credentials on weather balloons is the person claiming that they are responsible for what the rest of the world believes is handled by satellites. That would be you, by the way. The rest of us don't need to be credentialed, we're asking you to educate us on this balloon system, because my own senses don't show any information about your claims.
Quite frankly, I don't even need your credentials, I would just like you to do better than "I would guess" and "I don't have that information" before you claim to have a better answer than the rest of the world and then accuse us all of intellectual dishonesty.
Sure.
If you can acknowledge that you're 100% in the wrong (which is what I infer from this ridiculous post), then the least you could do is apologize and admit your error instead of sulking like an angsty teen.
I am not the one responding emotionally, so this "Sulky teenager" routine you're projecting on me is exactly that: projection. You think you've disproved everything I've said because you can provide a manufacturer for weather balloons (that you googled). Which is not relevant at all. You don't understand the basics of how to form a proper argument.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 12:15:15 PM »I already got a clear response to my question. No one in this thread can provide any credentials that show they are an authority on weather balloons, GPS, or anything of that nature. There's no reason to respond. They have shown their intellectual dishonesty. They are frauds who think googling the answers to all life's questions will show them the way. Trusting others over their own senses. Pathetic.The only one who needs any credentials on weather balloons is the person claiming that they are responsible for what the rest of the world believes is handled by satellites. That would be you, by the way. The rest of us don't need to be credentialed, we're asking you to educate us on this balloon system, because my own senses don't show any information about your claims.
Quite frankly, I don't even need your credentials, I would just like you to do better than "I would guess" and "I don't have that information" before you claim to have a better answer than the rest of the world and then accuse us all of intellectual dishonesty.
Sure.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 12:06:32 PM »
I already got a clear response to my question. No one in this thread can provide any credentials that show they are an authority on weather balloons, GPS, or anything of that nature. There's no reason to respond. They have shown their intellectual dishonesty. They are frauds who think googling the answers to all life's questions will show them the way. Trusting others over their own senses. Pathetic.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 11:15:12 AM »I am neither globe head nor accepting flat earth theory fully, actually I am on the verge to go anywhere
We are similar in that way.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 11:13:59 AM »Could you post your credentials as well? Thanks.I have credentials lot more than you. That is enough.
Sure.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 11:05:52 AM »So you show a picture of a balloon which is a weather balloon and thats your evidence of the 3,000 plus satellites being faked? LOL
Are you in the weather balloon industry?
Could you post your credentials so I know I'm not wasting my time when responding to you? If you are not in the industry and have no experience with weather balloons just admit it so that we can move on to something more pressing.
You send this kind of balloon up and it goes wherever wind pushes it. You never know where it comes down and when and there is no servicing for these kind of balloons. They just go pop and equipment goes falling down. I don't know how tech unsavvy you are that you think this is possible.
Could you post your credentials as well? Thanks.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 11:02:07 AM »OK...let me assume they are devices serviced regularly...that's why govt is launching so many satellites each year..might be to service them or replenish them. But people like me need some legit convincing proof for that. So what could be next?
I just posted proof. Round Earthers love pictures to prove their points. I posted my picture. Choose to believe or not to believe. It's up to you. I am simply presenting the facts as I know them.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Is the moon flat or spherical?
« on: September 15, 2017, 10:58:13 AM »Do you mean why we only see the same side of the moon? If so its because the moon spins at a perfect speed and distance that allows it only 1 full rotation every 1 full orbit of earth.
Wow. It almost seems like RE theory was designed around explaining away obvious Flat Earth tells.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 10:53:49 AM »are you trying to say there could be devices like this up in the sky fixed at one location and working all the time for longer duration?This is not G4 balloon. Its regular weather balloon with meteorogical equipment.
Sure.
They're serviced.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 10:44:02 AM »This is not G4 balloon. Its regular weather balloon with meteorogical equipment.
Sure.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 10:20:29 AM »
The technology is a lot more powerful than we're led to believe. It doesn't take "thousands" to cover the area of the United States for example. And yes, you can spot these balloons in the sky all the time and can easily view them lining the firmament with a telescope.
Regarding the manufacturer, I would guess that world governments manufacturer them and their schematics are top secret. I don't have that information.
Regarding the manufacturer, I would guess that world governments manufacturer them and their schematics are top secret. I don't have that information.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 10:02:55 AM »Yes it does! Cell phone towers have a radius around them and dont cover every place on earth. As for satellite phones they work almost every place on earth even in the middle of the oceans which definitely dont have cell towers.
You lack reading comprehension. They don't need cell towers. There are also balloons that function as what you call "satellites". They are similar to weather balloons in design.
Normal "Cell service" that degrades in certain areas (mountains, to use Sokarul's example) is simply a signal that is ONLY using cell towers. A "satellite" based signal uses 4G Balloons and other technology, which allows it to work even in isolated areas.
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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: How do the sun and the moon hang?
« on: September 15, 2017, 09:56:45 AM »If the Earth is constantly accelerating up to create "gravity" is the sun and the moon accelerating too?
What holds up the sun and the moon? What keeps them from falling into the Earth? Are there "rocket boosters" on the bottom?
There are no rocket boosters, but you're correct about the sun/moon rising upward with the Earth and at the same rate. This is why the Earth will never catch up with the sun/moon.
Regarding what holds them in place: the aetheric wind stream. This is the same force that fuels Universal Acceleration. And it has just as much evidence for its existence as gravity.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 09:46:50 AM »Why is cell coverage less than satellite coverage?
It's not.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Sattelite phones
« on: September 15, 2017, 09:37:36 AM »
The cellular signals (4g networks, etc etc) are bounced around from weather balloon "satellites" and cell towers. It's actually really simple. Flying space trash cans have nothing to do with it.
Let me guess, you probably think your home WIFI network needs a satellite to work as well?
Let me guess, you probably think your home WIFI network needs a satellite to work as well?
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Flat Earth General / Re: Gravity.
« on: May 13, 2017, 08:27:06 PM »Well you'll have a hard time accepting anything as a sound theory then.
Precisely. That's one of the downfalls of having an open mind.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: I have Bipolar. Also AMA.
« on: May 13, 2017, 08:17:56 PM »You can control your own thoughts.You have 0 (zero) idea how the brain and mental illness work.
I hope you'll never develope one, could be really dangerous with your attitude towards it.
And you do? Can I see your credentials?
Keep giving the pharmacy your money for things that don't exist. Its not my problem.
I was diagnosed with several "mental" problems when I was younger, my parents gave a lot of money for pills and whatnot, 20+ years later and I'm not taking anything, leading a productive life, have a fulfilling job, and a family. Oh, and I'm in relatively good spirits most of the time. It's all about perspective and attitude.
Perhaps you're conflating mental illness with mental disease or mental disorder.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Gravity.
« on: May 13, 2017, 07:39:50 PM »Hang on. It's really taking a big leap to say that all of what we know about gravity should just be tossed out simply because there is something happening on a galactic scale that we don't completely understand yet. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. On planetary and even solar system scales (and even larger), it works just fine. What good would science be if we were out of interesting questions to ask?
And for the record, gravitational lensing can happen with or without dark matter being taken into account. That was one of the first big victories for relativity (lensing observed during a solar eclipse), if I recall correctly.
When they figure out how to make gravity work without dark matter than I will accept it as a sound theory, until then it's bunk. I'm not a scientist, so I'm not going to delve into the problem head on. I'm simply a messenger. The theory is wrong, therefore: fix it.
Gravity doesn’t even fit in with the universe’s other three fundamental forces: the electromagnetic, the weak, and the strong, all of which have relatively sound arguments for them and their nature can be explained by modern science. Gravity cannot. It takes theoritical physics to explain it, the keyword being "theoritical"
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Flat Earth General / Re: Gravity.
« on: May 13, 2017, 07:25:25 PM »Just because dark matter hasn't been directly observed doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. If it had been directly observed, then it wouldn't be called "dark" matter. However, other effects of dark matter (such as gravitational lensing) have been observed.
Nice try, but gravitational lensing is simply an anomaly that they cannot explain without dark matter. After all, how can the "effects of" something be explained if the "something" hasn't even proven to be a real "something". That's the problem. They see something they can't explain then they attribute dark matter to be the cause. That's backwards, markjo.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Gravity.
« on: May 13, 2017, 07:13:11 PM »they ised the wrong material there i guess darkatter is like God than??gravity is a force wich vacum of space aplies to air bouble around earth, workes on every model
It works when you make up fake particles to make it work, sure. If you don't see that then you're simply ignorant and I can't help you. Help yourself and do some research. Dark Matter is the biggest farce in science. Followers of gravity are as bad as religious zealots.
Here you go.
And here.
The assertion in the latter link states that life would not exist at all without dark matter, coupled with the fact that it has never been observed/tested/proven - that's a HUGE discrepancy in Round Earth theory. Obviously your Earth theory is flawed because I'm alive and dark matter doesn't exist. Go back to the drawing board and stop sucking the massive schlong of pseudo-scientific nonsense.
They'll tell you dark matter is a place holder for a mathematical discrepancy present within the modern theory of gravity, what that actually means: they're dead wrong.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: I have Bipolar. Also AMA.
« on: May 13, 2017, 07:10:13 PM »
How much money is the pharmaceutical industry making off you? You know mental illness is a hoax, right? Your personality is simply your personality. It's like the ADHD craze of the 90s and early 2000s. Doctors shoving pills down young children's throats claiming that it will help them when really it was creating more problems than solving - but guess what! Doctors can prescribe something for that too! It's a massive money making scheme.
All mental illness can be cured by meditation, and no I don't mean "sit on the floor and close your eyes". I mean, simply, grow a pair and develop some self-awareness. You can control your own thoughts.
All mental illness can be cured by meditation, and no I don't mean "sit on the floor and close your eyes". I mean, simply, grow a pair and develop some self-awareness. You can control your own thoughts.