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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Where is this evidence of an Ice Wall?
« on: August 26, 2008, 12:13:24 AM »
You see the atmosphere clearly in the picture a FE'r produced. I guess he is part of the conspiracy right?

No, it would mean that the atmosphere is being retained.


Oh, I get it now. You are just doing the talking in circles tactic. Pretty cool.

Too bad you got pwned.

I love how the atmosphere is ABOVE the so called ice wall. Looks retained to me....LOL

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Where is this evidence of an Ice Wall?
« on: August 25, 2008, 03:04:26 PM »
How does one see no atmosphere being retained?

WOW.
 Just wow. Now I see you are purposely not being objective.


LOOK AT THE PICTURE

There are these things called clouds which consist of water vapor, our atmosphere consists of them. Clouds mean GASSES which is, you guessed it, OUR ATMOSPHERE. It is made up of various gasses that you and I breathe every day.

Don't even try to act stupid. You are MUCH smarter than this. You see the atmosphere clearly in the picture a FE'r produced. I guess he is part of the conspiracy right?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: planet question for FE
« on: August 25, 2008, 02:58:26 PM »
It's almost comical to see the FE theorists try to come up with new ways to explain things. Your original questions fall on deaf ears. You won't get any answers that will satisfy your logical thinking mind.

My favorite explination of the spotlight theory is that the darkened area that isn't lit up by the sun IE night time, can be SEEN THROUGH like it is invisible. That is why you can see the stars, sun moon etc. WOW, Just Wow.


I think it is sad to see this regression.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Where is this evidence of an Ice Wall?
« on: August 25, 2008, 02:38:52 PM »
This is hilarious. Your "proof" is a picture of the "ice wall" (glacier) taken certainly by a government agency.



Why can't anyone answer this?

If this is the ice wall, WHERE ARE THE SNOWMOBILE MEN????? No one is stopping anyone from going there.


Also FE say the atmosphere is held in by the ice wall. ummm I can clearly see clouds above the ice wall. Magic energy doesn't count.


You lose.

No.  ::)

The ice wall is pretty well-defined as corresponding to the coast of Antarctica.  Nobody disputes that the coast of Antarctica exists, therefore nobody disputes that the ice wall exists.  If you ask for a picture, that's all we have to show you.

Most people here don't believe that the ice wall is actually guarded and I believe its presence in the FAQ may even be a joke too subtle for some REers to pick up, like the notion that the earth is on the backs of four elephants and a turtle.

PROOF OF THE ICE WALL:

The ice wall is a wall of ice and rock that surrounds the earth to the south.  It is not a literal "wall".  I'm only pointing that out because the distinction seems to trip some people up.  It is only a wall in the sense that it is a barrier.

No matter where on the surface of the earth you start, if you keep going south you will eventually come to a barrier of ice and rock.

Nobody, RE or FE, disputes that this last is true.  So there you have it, proof everybody can agree with that if the earth is flat there must be an ice wall.

There is a hypothesized "greater ice wall", but since it has never been observed it's little more than a flight of fancy.  Some feel that it must exist to hold in the atmosphere; my personal opinion echoes Engy's, that the DEF, or UA, is all that's necessary to hold in the atmosphere.  Personally I don't feel it's terribly zetetic to even hypothesize such a wall but some established FEers disagree so it's become something of a corollary to the overall theory, but one that nobody disputes has not been proven.

But as far as providing evidence of the ice wall that is mentioned in the FAQ, well, lots of people have been to "Antarctica", right?  So I don't think any REer can really properly dispute it.



Not one rational person doubts anarcticas exsistance.

Ill keep it real simple for you.

1) There was a picture produced showing said "ice wall"/antarctica whatever u wanna call it.

2) This picture CLEARLY shows no atmosphere being retained by said ice wall.

3) This picture CLEARLY shows no snowmobile men, government agents etc.

4) This picture could be faked too.

5) How can you believe your "evidence" when it clearly comes from government sources just like ours? They are part of this conspiracy right?
I guess the people who took this pic were not in on the conspiracy right? how do you know that? did you go there yourself?


Your argument fails when you believe in one piece of evidence produced a specific agency and then deny another produced by the very same agency.


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What this site is REALLY about
« on: August 25, 2008, 02:12:44 PM »
You're right.  Allow me to elaborate:

The only active FE'ers on this website are Daniel, Dogplatter, Username, and Tom Bishop.  That's it.  The rest of us use the site because it's fun to debate a seemingly impossible to defend position.  When newbies uncover a hole in FET, they take it way too seriously and explode into rage about how anyone can be so stupid as to believe the earth is flat.

So to all newbies, let me just say, relax.  This website was made to debate the shape of the Earth.  The majority of us regulars argue for FE simply because it's fun.




Argue.....That is a great word. However, there is a lack of plausability in your "argument" that you cannot rationalize without "going into a rage" about conpsiracies, NASA ETC. That I think was the original point.

WE are the logical, rational people here. YOU are the one who is depending on magic and heresay. Although it might be "fun" to debate it here, that just shows how much evidence you lack. You need to resort to defense mechanisms like "we just do it for fun".

It's called being Passive Agressive.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Where is this evidence of an Ice Wall?
« on: August 25, 2008, 09:52:01 AM »
This is hilarious. Your "proof" is a picture of the "ice wall" (glacier) taken certainly by a government agency.



Why can't anyone answer this?

If this is the ice wall, WHERE ARE THE SNOWMOBILE MEN????? No one is stopping anyone from going there.


Also FE say the atmosphere is held in by the ice wall. ummm I can clearly see clouds above the ice wall. Magic energy doesn't count.


You lose.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Where is this evidence of an Ice Wall?
« on: August 24, 2008, 03:34:58 PM »
we win again

re =  1
fe = nil

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Where is this evidence of an Ice Wall?
« on: August 22, 2008, 03:31:22 PM »
What is hilarious about the "ice wall" pic is:

1) How do you know that this picture isn't a fabrication? Someone had to take the picture from above this supposed ice wall so that means it can be easily travelled to.

2) Where are the snowmobile men?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: A question to the FE supporters...
« on: August 22, 2008, 10:39:14 AM »
because this website is a big hoax

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: continental drifting
« on: August 21, 2008, 11:23:34 AM »
Great, so point me in the direction of plants which appear to have migrated before the dinosaurs did.

And yes, the dinosaurs almost certainly kept livestock (crocodiles, non-sentient genuses of dinosaur, etc.). The ability to herd domestic animals seems to have been a crucial development in the advancing of human civilization, and there's no reason to suspect that it was any different for the dinosaurs.


This guys avatar and overall thoughts like this prove to me this sight is a total joke.

Ok NOW I get it.

C L A S S I C.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: planet question for FE
« on: August 21, 2008, 11:20:23 AM »
I was actually going to post this exact same question but thought "why bother"?

 If it is a spot light that sines TOWARD earth, then how come the spot light shines toward other planets and in all other directions? LOL Strange "spotlight" huh? ...Mabye the snowmobile men are using gigantic mirrors at the ice wall to reflect the light back onto the planets. ;D

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: UNDENIABLE proof the Earth is FLAT.
« on: August 19, 2008, 05:25:00 PM »
Quote
Please inform these folks who actually live there.
http://www.southpolestation.com/

Do you mean the government employees who live at the government funded and controlled base there?


So all governments are conspiring together? Because we are not the only country there or that has been there my friend.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Antarctica Cup International Yacht Race
« on: August 19, 2008, 04:56:13 PM »
FE is getting hammered in this topic, just hammered.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Sombody post some facts please
« on: August 18, 2008, 08:52:53 PM »
Explain it. I have a 5 page thread in FEQ&C, still without one.

We have very good theories which explain gravity, and the initial assumption you call "magic", which, as everything else, started as a hypothesis, has later been backed up by enormous amounts of facts. Maybe not as much as evolution or RE in general, but still, a lot. Every single stellar object in the solar system which we have observed, have we also predicted where it is going to go, and where it is coming from, using Newton's law of universal gravitation, and general relativity. We have also done this for most other stellar objects, and those predictions and calculations also fit perfectly with the observations. This is why we can predict solar and lunar eclipses, why we can predict where all the planets is going to be on the night sky, why we can predict the paths of comets and asteroids, and so on. And what are you going to say if CERN detects the "gravity particle", which is the elementary particle predicted by the standard model, which transfers gravity? Are you going to refuse that too?

I would also like to add this: YES!, there has been many assumptions in science, but this is how science works. You observe something, create a hypothesis, and test this hypothesis. Then you work on it, to make it fit better, and so on. If it has, for a substantial period, stood up, and "beaten" (in lack of a better word) every attempt to falsify it, you have a theory. The difference between all the hypotheses which FEH rests on, and this one which the RET partly relies on, is that the theory(ies) of gravity, has been confirmed by observations, and stood up against every attempt to falsify it, which cannot be said for the FE hypotheses.

If you still don't accept it, or believe me, read more here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_theory_of_relativity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation



PWNAGE

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The only thing...
« on: August 18, 2008, 08:43:31 PM »
Again, you're still talking small potatoes.

Forgetting about all the space-related people (and that's A LOT)....then you still have geologists, volcanoloists, seizmologists, pilots, sea navigators, and anyone who claims to have been to Antarctica. Their conspiracy argument doesn't work. Case closed, end of story.

thats a HUGE conspiracy. I guess like two of my family members are part of this grand conspiracy.

After the NASA is a conspiracy argument they really have nothing. Thats why I think it is a fake site. Has to be if people as smart as them can over look something so simple.

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Flat Earth Debate / The only thing...
« on: August 18, 2008, 06:53:56 PM »
.........that makes me think this is a fake website is the NASA issue.......No one that can be objective and as smart as some of these FE's on here can seriously think NASA is covering everything up.

Shall I list the over 25 agencies not affiliated with NASA that have sent satellites to space and taken pictures of earth?

I mean cmon....You are smart enough to know it impossible to keep a conspiracy between 50 coporations, especially one like the EARTH BEING ROUND

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Flat Earth map
« on: August 18, 2008, 03:49:09 PM »
This is one of the funniest threads ever.



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Flat Earth Debate / Re: RE = "Ridiculous Evidence!" LOLZ
« on: August 18, 2008, 02:57:02 PM »
We need our mods back.
Hey give him a chance, as long as he shows us this "evidence" that he has. I bet it is right up there with that guy who had the pictures of the ice wall and the guards.


Should Be fun

im wanna see evidence

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Logical Question for FE's
« on: August 17, 2008, 10:02:02 AM »
I do not think my concerning transparency was off base.

You said the sun shines like a spotlight on earth. Well..WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER PARTS IN THE DARK THAT ARE NOT LIGHTENED?
 
How come you can see stars, moon etc THROUGH THE DARK AREAS? Thats because its obviously space and the earth is a sphere.

Do you even understand what I am saying?

What about the lack of stars on the moon and mars missions?? You see that you support the NASA "round earth huuuge galaxy, huuuge nuclear sun stuff" and that on the " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">whole is completely fake - then come here complaining about slight anomalies in a very logical and solid argument that the world is flat.

try proving to us that NASA isn't professionally and highly effectively pulling your leg by debunking this movie then come back and with the new knowledge that NASA is a lying manipulating mason controlled bunch of mathematician magicians you may see that your sticking to a rock flying round space is quite ridiculous :)





You obviously did not read the whole post otherwise your response would make sense.

For the sake of argument I will say NASA are liars, conspirators etc.

That still does not explain the hundreds of other agencies, corporations and private persons who have gone to space WITHOUT the help of NASA. Those pictures and experiences are fake too?? Sorry but you lost me there......

Back to the original question that no one can answer without the "NASA conspiracy" answer.

If the sun is a spotlight, why is the darkened area of flat earth SEE THROUGH from space?????

FORGET NASA

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Logical Question for FE's
« on: August 16, 2008, 11:25:31 PM »
I do not think my concerning transparency was off base.

You said the sun shines like a spotlight on earth. Well..WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER PARTS IN THE DARK THAT ARE NOT LIGHTENED?
 
How come you can see stars, moon etc THROUGH THE DARK AREAS? Thats because its obviously space and the earth is a sphere.

Do you even understand what I am saying?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Logical Question for FE's
« on: August 16, 2008, 03:36:31 PM »
please tell me your joking wardogg. and i thought ALL the pictures were fake because space flight isn't possible.


I hope he is joking too.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Logical Question for FE's
« on: August 16, 2008, 03:22:50 PM »
so land mass magically becomes invisible. Sounds logical.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Logical Question for FE's
« on: August 16, 2008, 03:07:33 PM »
hmmmm...interesting..

Why can you see through that darkened land mass and see stars, space objects planets etc.?

Is the darkened land mass transparent when it is darkened?

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Flat Earth Debate / Logical Question for FE's
« on: August 16, 2008, 03:01:15 PM »
Logical question I could not find answered in the FAQ. I am hoping someone can answer this logically.

If the earth is flat, than why does every single picture taken of earth from space only show a small part of land mass and not ALL of earths land and oceans?

("NASA conspiracy" answer is not valid because many independent companies/agencies have taken pictures of earth from space seperate from NASA)

I want to believe.

Thank you.

(My only logical conclusion is the other continents/land mass/oceans are on the other side, thus maintaining a spherical shape.)

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