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Flat Earth General / Re: Sandokhan and Gravitation etc
« on: Today at 03:33:32 PM »
He added a post today about the Pyramids to his 'Advanced Flat Earth' section.

Apparently it's made of concrete,  which is bizarre as it's mostly still there and it's made of granite cased in limestone?

Not sure where it's going but no doubt will be added to a thread regarding revised chronology of history?


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: You are all wrong.
« on: Today at 12:59:06 PM »
Not all of us. The earth is flat, plus a simulation. You are a part of simulation too. It doesn't make you independent of them thinking that everyone else is the same.

Now that could be a good discussion, lots and lots of simulation theories out there.

For example looking at you Wise, assuming the simulation is of FE? if I see RE, is that because you can see beyond the code of the simulation or the code is in some way corrupt that makes me see it as RE. As you know I will assert that I can prove its RE with a number of demonstrations, so the ability to do that must be part of the simulation, whether it is right or wrong. So could the fact that we are having a debate about the simulation be a key component of the simulation, and the FE/RE debate is just a variable in some longer chain of programming.

flat earth theory is actually the result of failure of the globalist system. in other words, the system was originally designed to assume that it was round. we can see this fine engineering everywhere. however, when we look at it in more detail, the system is actually created on a flat surface designed to be assumed to be round. this also means that when you look at something that you see perfectly from the outside, it is not as perfect as you think. this also means that the programmer (s) are not perfect. I personally believe that the price of this world should be a few dollars or free when I combine both programmers not to be perfect and everything stubborn as opposed to me. This world should be free of charge enough to be boring and bad production. It might be Chinese made.

Obviously my coding is going to say the reverse, we could call it a draw and say its a Gaussian flat surface forced into the shape of a sphere, but the code would find another way for us to disagree.

The original model/matrix was paradise but we wouldn't accept the programming, so we are left with these differences and this crappy model.

I think some of the creatures that were earlier than humans were for trial purposes. like sketch work. people called it evolution because they couldn't make the connection. God sounds nice concept, sounds good. there must be a god in an ideal world, rewarding the good, punishing the bad. but this is not the case in this world. No, I was never convinced. The dialogue between you and me is just to confuse me. I don't want to say matrix leads you but matrix leads this conversation. his obsession with proving that I failed in this failed world attempt made the world work fail. No, certainly this world has lost all its credibility for me, and I think I'm dealing with someone who plays the role of god but has an adolescent mood. it has no seriousness at all.

No but that is the kind of idea I can get behind and discuss.

I like the idea of archaeology being the remnants of a previous simulation.

I'm not here to confuse you, at least I dont think I am...

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Flat Earth General / Re: Sandokhan and Gravitation etc
« on: Today at 10:54:27 AM »
That scientists have not yet confirmed a unified theory for quantum gravity seems to be the only argument left for some.  Most discussions eventually lead to this.

But as someone (sorry, can’t remember who) pointed out in another thread, people worked out that fire was hot long before they understood exothermic chemical reactions.

As Sandy pointed out General Relativity has errors in it, after vigorously testing it for 100 years it is only...

99.999997% accurate

Therefore, Electric Universe!!!


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: You are all wrong.
« on: Today at 08:02:19 AM »
Not all of us. The earth is flat, plus a simulation. You are a part of simulation too. It doesn't make you independent of them thinking that everyone else is the same.

Now that could be a good discussion, lots and lots of simulation theories out there.

For example looking at you Wise, assuming the simulation is of FE? if I see RE, is that because you can see beyond the code of the simulation or the code is in some way corrupt that makes me see it as RE. As you know I will assert that I can prove its RE with a number of demonstrations, so the ability to do that must be part of the simulation, whether it is right or wrong. So could the fact that we are having a debate about the simulation be a key component of the simulation, and the FE/RE debate is just a variable in some longer chain of programming.

flat earth theory is actually the result of failure of the globalist system. in other words, the system was originally designed to assume that it was round. we can see this fine engineering everywhere. however, when we look at it in more detail, the system is actually created on a flat surface designed to be assumed to be round. this also means that when you look at something that you see perfectly from the outside, it is not as perfect as you think. this also means that the programmer (s) are not perfect. I personally believe that the price of this world should be a few dollars or free when I combine both programmers not to be perfect and everything stubborn as opposed to me. This world should be free of charge enough to be boring and bad production. It might be Chinese made.

Obviously my coding is going to say the reverse, we could call it a draw and say its a Gaussian flat surface forced into the shape of a sphere, but the code would find another way for us to disagree.

The original model/matrix was paradise but we wouldn't accept the programming, so we are left with these differences and this crappy model.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Strongest FE Evidence
« on: Today at 06:54:07 AM »
Is Sando still failing to understand surface tension?

Yes, it's part of a longer list

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: You are all wrong.
« on: Today at 06:24:51 AM »
Not all of us. The earth is flat, plus a simulation. You are a part of simulation too. It doesn't make you independent of them thinking that everyone else is the same.

Now that could be a good discussion, lots and lots of simulation theories out there.

For example looking at you Wise, assuming the simulation is of FE? if I see RE, is that because you can see beyond the code of the simulation or the code is in some way corrupt that makes me see it as RE. As you know I will assert that I can prove its RE with a number of demonstrations, so the ability to do that must be part of the simulation, whether it is right or wrong. So could the fact that we are having a debate about the simulation be a key component of the simulation, and the FE/RE debate is just a variable in some longer chain of programming.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: You are all wrong.
« on: Today at 06:14:47 AM »
Is he angry because he couldn't get to work?

Some extreme stuff here, more than one gender!!!!!

I want proof, preferably with pictures  ;D

Gender thing was only to show how you can play with what is true and false.

Dont you think that if we find that ridiculous now, that the people in 1000 years from now (or before) find some of the "truths" we believe now completely crazy ?

You can play with perceptions and truth all you want. 99% of what you believe now is not even from your own thinking process.

You got it from what I said in first post.

They can be 1 gender 2 genders 100000 genders. If more people believe it then dont, it becomes a truth.

The gender thing is an extreme exemple, you are missing the point.

My tongue was firmly in my cheek, I have witnessed at least three genders.

But I am struggling to see the point of your post, the main point seems to be make your own mind up, or some kind of Illuminati style conspiracy.

Either way you had to make some pretty big assumptions regarding people posting on this forum. 

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Flat Earth General / Re: December 26th Annular Eclipse
« on: Today at 06:06:04 AM »
Takes a little while to separate the RE/FE and 'The Others'  ;D
I can give a hint, though.  Nearly everyone on this board is a round earther.  A few are trolls.  I suspect there are at least four genuine flat earthers actively on the forums that are willing to engage in conversation, although sometimes they have to be baited into it.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Fully agree, but I am struggling to get to 4 ;)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: You are all wrong.
« on: Today at 03:29:20 AM »
Crazy lives there

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LOL. This Mercury tin pot was never in space and never returned from space. It is an early example of Fake News.

Private photographs  ::)

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Flat Earth General / Re: December 26th Annular Eclipse
« on: Today at 01:28:34 AM »
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I think he was being sarcastic 

Let's hope so eh... you just never know around these parts!  Given some of the comments that get posted.

Takes a little while to separate the RE/FE and 'The Others'  ;D

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Flat Earth General / Re: December 26th Annular Eclipse
« on: Today at 12:47:54 AM »
So what is 'fake' and 'faulty' about eclipse predictions as our EvolvedMantisShrimp seems to think?

I think he was being sarcastic  ;)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: You are all wrong.
« on: Today at 12:46:55 AM »
Is he angry because he couldn't get to work?
Some extreme stuff here, more than one gender!!!!!
I want proof, preferably with pictures  ;D
Isaac Asimov's The Relativity of Wrong, Isaac Asimov that Unconvinced posted if worth reading.

I think my sarcasm may have missed the mark, but yes was a good read  :)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: You are all wrong.
« on: Today at 12:00:10 AM »
Is he angry because he couldn't get to work?

Some extreme stuff here, more than one gender!!!!!

I want proof, preferably with pictures  ;D

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: December 05, 2019, 03:52:47 PM »
Whole process is a bit confusing tbh, didnt Clinton get impeached getting head?
Not quite.  He got impeached (but not removed from office) for lying about it (perjury and obstruction).

Being lazy, should read more about it, but head full of UK politics as we prepare for another general election.

But basically is Trumps accusation of an abuse of presidential power?

Hasn't quite been finalized yet.  Most likely abuse of power, bribery and obstruction of congress/justice.  There's a possibility of treason but it's unlikely.

Much the same as Brexit over here, good distraction tactic, stops them messing too many things up and the day to day stuff  you know like running a country...

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Double standards
« on: December 05, 2019, 03:28:30 PM »
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Notice no discernible change in angular size, what could that mean?

It looks to me that the consistency in angular diameter of light effect that Rabinoz posted is in full effect.

Bit strange though isnt it, once the cloud passes you can clearly see the moon hasn't changed size at all.

Stranger that you seem to be suggesting that the object going farther away gets bigger.

Can you provide a predictive model and timelapse of the moons movement on your FE version?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: December 05, 2019, 03:03:44 PM »
Whole process is a bit confusing tbh, didnt Clinton get impeached getting head?
Not quite.  He got impeached (but not removed from office) for lying about it (perjury and obstruction).

Being lazy, should read more about it, but head full of UK politics as we prepare for another general election.

But basically is Trumps accusation of an abuse of presidential power?


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Double standards
« on: December 05, 2019, 02:56:47 PM »
So you can't prove it. And you can't even really explain why the lights appear to be about the same size. Yet we should listen to you about what it is? I see.

Strawman deployed

Check the video below. Timelapse of moon rises and sets.

Notice no discernible change in angular size, what could that mean?

Added bonus in the first sequence, you can see lensing effects of the clouds reflecting the glare, but the source, ie. The moon, not itself changing size.



Oops wrong link

This one includes glare


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Double standards
« on: December 05, 2019, 02:48:26 PM »
So you can't prove it. And you can't even really explain why the lights appear to be about the same size. Yet we should listen to you about what it is? I see.

Strawman deployed

Check the video below. Timelapse of moon rises and sets.

Notice no discernible change in angular size, what could that mean?

Added bonus in the first sequence, you can see lensing effects of the clouds reflecting the glare, but the source, ie. The moon, not itself changing size.


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Arts & Entertainment / Re: WWII from axis perspective
« on: December 05, 2019, 01:25:33 PM »
Edge is a bit more pronounced,  but look good.

It's also a really interesting topic, look forward to flicking through more.
I wanted to quickly scan a complete roll before I had to go somewhere, so I set the cropping to max. Normally I would crop out the edges.

Thing is, its never good enough for me. I am a perfectionist and my mind can't rest until its perfect. Which it never will be... due to the reality we live in.

Tell that to my thoughts!

That's why it's good to have third parties to let you know.

Haha this is the internet be sure somebody will pop and tell you its rubbish no matter how much work you put in.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: WWII from axis perspective
« on: December 05, 2019, 01:04:44 PM »
Edge is a bit more pronounced,  but look good.

It's also a really interesting topic, look forward to flicking through more.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: December 05, 2019, 12:12:06 PM »
Just glad he is out of the UK, get nervous when I see him out and about on TV, keep expecting him to be assassinated  C:-)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: December 05, 2019, 11:45:39 AM »
So with the Senate in Republican hands he is pretty sure of not going to trial, or are Republicans likely to turn on him.

Bit weird in UK you have the party 'Whip' which effectively allows the party to force mp's to vote one way or the other.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump
« on: December 05, 2019, 11:20:03 AM »
Can someone explain to a Brit what today's impeachment announcement means?

Apologies but I just cant work out whether it's the end of the world or nothing. Whole process is a bit confusing tbh, didnt Clinton get impeached getting head?

Press is either Left or Right on it hence the confusion  :o

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Flat Earth General / Re: Nasa's Moon-bombing ends in anticlimax
« on: December 05, 2019, 06:46:37 AM »
What?
A news media misunderstood a technical statement and added their own theatrics?

Also...its 10yro.

damn dem spam bots

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Tesla is making an El Camino!
« on: December 05, 2019, 06:31:19 AM »
Governments rake in millions in parking fees. They won't want to reduce the number of cars on the road sadly I imagine :(
Oh they've got a pretty strong incentive to reduce traffic.  Less traffic means more commerce.

Have to agree with Shifter here, for every forward thinking local authority in the UK, there are three who want nothing more than to rake in the parking revenue. 

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Flat Earth General / Re: Strongest FE Evidence
« on: December 05, 2019, 05:32:58 AM »
The mechanism was completely unknown for a couple centuries after Newton introduced his Law of Universal Gravitation.

Do you even understand what you are saying?

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT MECHANISM IS ATTRACTIVE?

Here is Newton's mechanism: PRESSURE GRAVITY!

This is right from the pages of the Principia:

“In attractions, I briefly demonstrate the thing after this manner. Suppose an obstacle is interposed to hinder the meeting of any two bodies A, B, attracting one the other: then if either body, as A, is more attracted towards the other body B, than that other body B is towards the first body A, the obstacle will be more strongly urged by the pressure of the body A than by the pressure of the body B, and therefore will not remain in equilibrium: but the stronger pressure will prevail, and will make the system of the two bodies, together with the obstacle, to move directly towards the parts on which B lies; and in free spaces, to go forwards in infinitum with a motion continually accelerated; which is absurd and contrary to the first law.”

the obstacle will be more strongly urged by the pressure of the body A

PRESSURE = PUSHING FORCE

ATTRACTION = PULLING FORCE

Read Newton's clear description again:


Oh Sandy will you ever learn.

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In attractions, I briefly demonstrate the thing after this manner. Suppose an obstacle is interposed to hinder the meeting of any two bodies A, B, attracting one the other: then if either body, as A, is more attracted towards the other body B, than that other body B is towards the first body A, the obstacle will be more strongly urged by the pressure of the body A than by the pressure of the body B, and therefore will not remain in equilibrium: but the stronger pressure will prevail, and will make the system of the two bodies, together with the obstacle, to move directly towards the parts on which B lies; and in free spaces, to go forwards in infinitum with a motion continually accelerated; which is absurd and contrary to the first law...


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... For by the first Law, the system should continue in its state of rest, or of moving uniformly forwards in a right line; and therefore, the bodies must equally press the obstacle, and be equally attracted one by the other. I made the experiment on the loadstone and the iron. If these, are placed apart in proper vessels, are made to float by one another in standing water, neither of them will propel the other; but, by being equally attracted, they will sustain each other's pressure, and rest at last in an equilibrium.


Reads a bit differently when you dont cherry pick.

So now we have attraction sorted, lets get back to your pictures also proving earth curvature.



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Flat Earth General / Re: Strongest FE Evidence
« on: December 05, 2019, 04:30:15 AM »
You still don't get it.

When you say differential geometry, you are implying that it is the DIFFERENTIAL EQUATIONS OF MOTION (derived from the differential geometric approach) which provide the gravitational force. That is, you still must explain HOW an object is allowed to remain on the outer surface of a sphere. That is why you need the graviton model to even attempt to put up some kind of a theory.


No I am not.

Differential Geometry can be used on static models, its how it was developed. Its fundamental mathematics. You are trying to divert the conversation again, so you can continue running away.

You stated prove curvature, in the RE model I can independently check earths R value using Differential Geometry.

Again wasted typing on the keyboard, but how about you come up with some RE proofs.

So Flat Earth Scientist and celebrated mathematician how about working out a formula to help explain your 'Strongest FE Evidence' looking at things over water.

Can you provide a formula to calculate the distance at which land, or indeed an area of the sea/lake, stops being visible to an observer at a height of 'X' metres above the Flat Earth?


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Flat Earth General / Re: Strongest FE Evidence
« on: December 05, 2019, 04:10:03 AM »



the attractive forces of the water molecules would prevent it.

Water molecules: the icosahedron and ether waves

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1722739#msg1722739

No Bielfeld-Brown is crank science, scroll up this thread.

Water molecules are tetrahedral

Stop quoting yourself.


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