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Flat Earth General / Re: Why are you debating on complex theories?
« on: August 20, 2019, 02:41:36 AM »
I sometimes go more complex, so show them something new.
So they can see whatever the details, it still comes out round.

Does it work? Are they not simply making up another theory that fits their model?
It's really shocking to look into the unlogical abysses they create.. and still smart people waste their time on this..

Dear Slime, you are also luring people into complexity by making up theories, just to leave them speechless? What a shame if so..

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Flat Earth General / Why are you debating on complex theories?
« on: August 18, 2019, 06:19:31 PM »
After reading through various topics in this forum I always wonder: Why don't people keep it simple?

There are simple observations, that lead to the conclusion, that the earth is a globe. You can measure the angle of sunrays from different locations on the earth at the same time, get the results together and tadaa: they only fit on a globe.
Instead people debate about tectonic plates on a flat earth, show pictures with light refractions, that "proof" or "disproof" a curvature.. debate about a "dome" or that the sun "disappears in an angle".. I just don't get it.
Take a good filter and you can see, that the sun has the same size throughout the whole sunset.. (it Looks a litte compressed vertically, but horizontally it keeps the same size)..

So.. why don't you keep it simple?
To all "globe-earthers": why do you even waste your time discussing on complex levels?
To all "flat-earthers": how are these simple reproducable observations not enough?

Thanks

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Flat Earth General / Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« on: August 18, 2019, 05:41:21 PM »
After reading through this topic I observed one common strategy of flat earthers: showing observations that should be easy to explain, but turn out to be more complex and make even smart people seem "dumb".
Like the refractions of light above curvature, that are hard to explain and forecast by most people and are influenced by so many factors (humidity of the air, ground (water, earth) etc.). You expect people to tell you exactly, what is going on, when you have no idea yourself (and by that, you think you won).

There are so many simple observations that proof a globe without any doubt and are reconstructed by tons of people.
The simplest example: measuring the shadow of a perfectly vertical stick on two different locations at the same time. There is literally NO OTHER EXPLANATION than a round globe and I can't believe you just don't do this yourself and stop this nonsense.
Get a FE friend from another city, at least a hundred miles away (east or west of course), measure the length at the same time and share your results.
Get more friends, compare your results and it will be even more obvious.. it's so damn easy..

I don't get it.. there are lots of videos of people doing this, there even was an experiment, where people from all around the globe participated and the results were so clear..

FloPlus a german youtuber Shows it perfectly

Edit: And for god's sake you can watch a sunset and still see the sun shining on tall buildings or mountains.. or watch a sunset twice, if you take an Elevator at the Burj Kalifa for example..

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Is FE a dogma to you?
« on: August 02, 2019, 07:51:59 PM »
Hey, I wondered, if the FE is dogmatic to flat earthers.. maybe the users here can tell me.. it always seemed to me, that most wouldn't ever Change their mind even when confronted with overwhelming evidence..

If you don't know what a dogma is: a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true.

Thanks.

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Flat Earth General / Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« on: August 02, 2019, 07:08:38 PM »
When will RE Community Accept Defeat?

Both the coastlines of Atlantic and Pacific are at 0' Sea level and both are 3,962 miles from Earths alleged center.
The distance between Oceans with the Panama Canal in-between is about 36 Miles.
The center of Panama Canal is about 18 miles from the coast on Gatun Lake and is 85’ above each Ocean shoreline.
The drop in curvature at 18 miles is 216’.  That places Earth’s curvature at 216’ (3962 miles from center of Earth) feet above each coastline at center.
That also places Gatun Lake 131’ below Earths alleged 3962 mile radius marker.
That means if Earth were a Globe, the Panama Canal could not exist because Gatun Lake would be under 131’ of sea water at 18 miles from the Coast. The Canal exists because water does not curve.

It’s that simple, we won. We really never lost. Earth Remains a flat Plane with mountains, hills and valleys and sea level bodies of water.

But the real question is, when is the Globe community going to accept defeat?

NASA can't help them, fake pictures and fake moon landings cannot rescue them. 

No argument they have is going to magically make the oceans curve and flood the Panama Canal, no matter what they say or do.  It’s not going to happen.  After reading this if one continues to defend a Globe Earth theory, they are just professional deniers who really don’t care for truth.



Hey, I just registered here and followed this discussion.. there is one simple point you are missing:

The 216' that you describe are just the height that is hidden behind the curvature FROM SIGHT.. just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's under water like Atlantis..

It's a shame, your knowledge of this is so little..

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