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Corsair Airlines will be blacklisted too. But I don't do that after your recommendation. I'll exam them and will take to the black list too. This is literally impossible. If you find another B744 flies faster than 920kmh, report it.

Yes Sir !
Here is another obscure airline frauding:

BA 284 SFO-> LHR reported at 1278 km/h] and more than 920 km/h for about 4 hours https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW284/history/20131222/0020Z/KSFO/EGLL/tracklog

BA JFK-> LHR in 5h16m http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11337617/Jet-stream-blasts-BA-plane-across-Atlantic-in-record-time.html

Ban British Airways!

BTW, how do you know that a 747 cannot fly faster than 920 km/h ?, why is it literally impossible ?


Look, an AirFrance  B777 at 1240 km/hr top speed

AF 011 JFK-CDG https://fr.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR11/history/20150108/0250Z/KJFK/LFPG/tracklog

Ban Air France!





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Qantas is blacklisted with the route of Sydney-Santiago

This is the flight link:

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA27/history/20180207/0221Z/YSSY/SCEL

The distance is: 11.353kms.
The best time for Qantas B744 in this route: 11:50 hours. This is logically impossible. B744 is a fast aircraft but not one of the fastest ones.

The best speed for B744 in the air is: 899km/h.

This chart is occurred after examined about 10.000 flights. A B744 never passes the speed of 899.


Well, that's not true, here is a quick example:

PTP-> ORY Corsair CRL927 935 km/h https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CRL927/history/20180206/2250Z/TFFR/LFPO
PTP-> ORY Corsair CRL927 920 km/h https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CRL927/history/20180126/2250Z/TFFR/LFPO
PTP-> ORY Corsair CRL927 919 km/h https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CRL927/history/20180127/2250Z/TFFR/LFPO





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I'm giving the names deceiver companies now. The list of names will be increase by new knowledges:

Qantas with lie of: Sydney to Santiago flights. Johannesburg to Perth flights. (flight time)


Ok we will examine every case. Let's sort out the first one.
What do you exactly find suspicious about the SYD SCL flight duration? can you give an example please ?

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Flat Earth General / Re: The world's most accurate map
« on: February 06, 2018, 02:44:25 AM »
Now The plane has landed at 00:21, and they are checking in for the return trip LA 836 Tahiti-> Easter island.
 


Estimated time for departure 02:55.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The world's most accurate map
« on: February 06, 2018, 01:47:18 AM »
Hello Intikam. As promised, i'm gathering the data for the incoming Easter Island -> Tahiti flight.
Let's take a look at the airport realtime schedule
http://www.tahiti-aeroport.pf/


Note the LA833 flight expected at 00:25.

Let's track it on flightaware:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/LAN833




Arrival Time 00:21

Now a little search on Latam.com
https://www.latam.com/en_us/apps/personas/flightstatus#origin-destination/IPC/PPT/2018/2/5



Arrival time 00:21

Well this matches perfectly. Please note that the flight is ahead on schedule and the three sites have successfully updated the information.

Do you still think this flight is a fake ? No way. Three independent sources have tracked it.

Your move, if you dare.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The world's most accurate map
« on: February 05, 2018, 12:18:51 AM »
I already proved. You are forcing me to stop working and continue to talk with you.

If your pointless claims continue, I either ignore you or continue this working in another section. Because of you are an alt of anyone and will get another membership, perhaps I'll continue this working in another place that you can not arrive.

You obviously failed and cannot answer to simple questions, so you evade. Well, it's up to you.
Have a nice day!

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Flat Earth General / Re: The world's most accurate map
« on: February 04, 2018, 11:15:59 PM »

This is your end. I hope you a nice and fast end, ok?

I already explained. If you don't understand, it is your problem.

I can not tell someones unable to understand.

If this continue like this, I must continue this working in a place you can not target me by your lyings.

Not yet. You didn't disprove the flight from Tahiti to Easter Island.
You first said that i was lying. Then you realised that you could book the flight. So you said that the flight was too expensive to be real. I showed you that the fare was ok. I gave you the shedules and  predicted that tomorrow, the flight will appear in the airport logs.
If you can't disprove the flight you have to take it in account and this will ruin the position of NZ, Australia and all the surrounding islands.

You didn't explain what method you used to "correct" the distance from Tahiti to Tokyo. You only explained why airmen were allegedy wrong. I'm asking you for the calculations used to find the 5.819km distance.

You are saying that I'm a liar. Prove it.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The world's most accurate map
« on: February 02, 2018, 10:01:07 AM »
Nice find, but not relevant. The Tahiti-Tokyo route is always at less than 2 hours from a usable airport. Not to mention that Air Tahiti Nui uses exclusively quads (A340), not affected by ETOPS 120 limitations

Please note that Intikam's excuse is
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Tahiti Pilots running close to Oceanian countries for don't be miss the route
.
We are not about the same issue.

However,  this ETOPS limitation explains nicely the different times for the Sao Paolo-Johannesburg, as LaTam 767s are impacted by it.


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Flat Earth General / Re: The world's most accurate map
« on: February 02, 2018, 08:24:25 AM »

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Isn't it an explanation. Are you idiot?
I don't thnk so, but I do think you are attacking the person and not the argument
How you "correct" the distance from 9.518km to 5.819km, why 5819 and not 4876 km ?
Please answer the question?

Why Tahiti-Tokyo path continues time longer than estimated:

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Why Tahiti-Tokyo path continues time longer than estimated:
Because of pilots must use GPS or navigation systems; the systems lets them a place near to Ocenian countries. They are clearly using the wrong path, like how New Zealand pilots are doing while they run to Los Angeles. Similar problem.

So you think that pilots are using GPS to navigate but fear to fly over the oceans  and have to keep some kind of visual over islands. They are almost doubling the flight time and are aware of that but no one can correct this.
They are using some hi-tech instruments but have to rely on the good old eyes to navigate.
Question: how do the find the route at night or when the groud is hidden by clouds?

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Do I have to spend my time by answering your idiotic questions? Where is the moderation? Is it a debate section?
It's up to you but, well, this subforum is called Flat Earth General, and below the title, you can read:
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For the discussion of any FE topics unrelated to Flat Earth Theory. FE conspiracy topics belong here
Noted the discussion word ? So no moderator will come to save you.

Let's sum up.
You called me a liar, and you were wrong, but cannot accept your mistake.
You cannot disprove that the flight Tahiti-Easter Island is real, trashing your South America-Polynesia -and by extension Australia- distances.
You think that pilots are sometimes lost, sometimes fearful, and fliying like in the 30s but sometimes can be also right on schedule. No worries, you know who is who.
You think that every flight time that do not fit into your agenda is suspicious, and there are a lot, but yet you have the "world's most accurate map ". Is this a scientific approach? No

Thank you for your time, have a nice week-end.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The world's most accurate map
« on: February 02, 2018, 05:18:18 AM »
Why Tahiti-Tokyo path continues time longer than estimated:

Because of pilots must use GPS or navigation systems; the systems lets them a place near to Ocenian countries. They are clearly using the wrong path, like how New Zealand pilots are doing while they run to Los Angeles. Similar problem.

So you are using flight times to find distances, but when the distances don't sum up with your theory you explain that the pilots are mistaken. They are sometimes taking the wrong route and sometimes not. Really ?
That's not very scientific. Give evidence other than saying " I'm Right"


And you still don't explain how you "correct" the distance from 9.518km to 5.819km




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Flat Earth General / Re: The world's most accurate map
« on: February 02, 2018, 05:09:16 AM »
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You are saying lie! When I click the link you gave and search for a flight:
Wrong and I can prove it
Please pay attention. I've already explained to you that there is ONE flight per week.
I can't help you if you don't know how to search.
Here is it



769 $ is not really expensive for such a flight isn't it ?
Of course, when you book near flights, you pay more, but that's true for every destination...

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https://www.flightnetwork.com/destinations/Easter-Island/Tahiti_Easter-Island.html
This is the link he gave. No flight! But it is easy to write a fable about past!
Well i't seems that you were wrong and it's not a fable. BTW I didn't provide this specific link.
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I'm saying again, Latam airlines doesn't fly between Tahiti and Eastern Island. It is absent. It is lie. Don't come with such lies again.
Here you can see that they DO fly between Tahiti and Eastern Island. Right ?
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I think you don't understand what you read. Article talking about "DEPARTURES!
Well I do, I speak french quite fluently. The link from the Faaa airport shows previous departures AND arrivals of REAL flights
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Horaire des vols de TAHITI - FAAA Du lundi 22 Janvier 2018 au dimanche 28 Janvier 2018

Lundi 22 Janvier 2018
Arrivées :
TN101 LOS ANGELES (AA7171/ QF3816/ SB4411/ NZ4091) 0530
TN077 TOKYO (KE6701/JL5077) 0620
TN102 AUCKLAND (AA7176 / QF3815 / SB4410) 2230

Départs :
TN101 AUCKLAND (AA7177/ QF3816/ SB4411) 0755
TN711 ILE DE PAQUES (VOL CHARTER) 0830
TN102 LOS ANGELES (QF3815 / AA7176 /AF5103 / SB4410/NZ4092 ) 2359

Mardi 23 Janvier 2018
Arrivées :
TN007 PARIS / LOS ANGELES (AA7173 / NZ4097 / AF5102) 0045
LA833 SANTIAGO/ILE DE PAQUES 0100
NZ040 AUCKLAND 1625

Départs :
LA836 ILE DE PAQUES/SANTIAGO 0255
NZ041 AUCKLAND 1755
TN008 LOS ANGELES / PARIS (AA7174 / NZ4098) 2300
TN002 LOS ANGELES (QF3817 / AA7172 / NZ4092) 2359

Mercredi 24 Janvier 2018
Arrivées :
TN101 LOS ANGELES (QF3816 / AA7177 / NZ4091) 0530
TN712 ILES DE PAQUES (VOL CHARTER) 1800
TN102 AUCKLAND (AA7176 / QF3815 / NZ314) 2230
TN001 LOS ANGELES (QF3820 / AA7171 / NZ4093) 2240

Départs :
TN101 AUCKLAND (QF3816 / NZ315 / AA7177) 0755
TN102 LOS ANGELES (QF3815 / AA7176 / NZ4092) 2359

Jeudi 25 Janvier 2018

Arrivées :
AF076 PARIS / LOS ANGELES (DL8560) 0615
VT036 RAROTONGA (GZ036) 1820

Départs :
AF077 LOS ANGELES / PARIS (DL8567) 0825
VT035 RAROTONGA (GZ035) 1215
TN002 LOS ANGELES (QF3817 / AA7172 / NZ4092) 2359
Do you see the destinations ? For example AF077 going to Los Angeles then to Paris ?
Same thing for the LA836 going to Easter Island then to Santiago.
You are the one claiming the flight to LA valid, why the flight to Easter Island isn't a valid one ?
BTW, next week, you will find there the record of this week, if you dare search.


So, are you seriously saying that the airport is creating imaginary records of imaginary planes when there are only 3 or 4 international flights per day ?
How can they hide this missing flight? Please explain.
But don't believe me, let's check for the next flight. It's scheduled for 06/02/2018 Local Date departing from Faaa. 
See ya next thursday ( mind that they follow  the GMT-10 time ), we'll check this together, ok ?

here :http://www.tahiti-aeroport.pf/index.php

Edit : typo

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Flat Earth General / Re: The world's most accurate map
« on: February 02, 2018, 02:16:50 AM »
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I belive that Latam airlines is saying lie about Tahiti. They don't fly there. Also they have no flight on airport to Tahiti.

Well you are wrong.
Here is  the official airport web page archive for the last week (in French sorry) :

http://www.tahiti-aeroport.pf/articles.php?id=96

You can see the following flights (both charter and regular flights):

22/01 : TN711 to Easter Island
23/01 : LA836 to Easter Island and Santiago de Chile
23/01 : LA833 from Easter Island and Santiago de Chile
24/01 : TN712 from Easter Island

Flights labelled LAxx are from LaTam, TNxx are from Air Tahiti Nui.

You know, Faa is a little airport. There are few international flights, so "they" cannot create imaginary flights. You DO see Latam planes parked on the tarmac. You DO see people boarding for Easter Island and coming from it. It's a known and appreciated destination. 

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Air Tahiti says truth about Tahiti

Easter Island is  connected with Tahiti on  a weekly basis with regular flight (LaTam) plus some charter flights operated by Air Tahiti Nui.
As Easter Island is connected to Santiago de Chile, you can fly from Tahiti to Santiago de Chile. And the distance from Tahiti to Santiago de Chile is wrong, dead wrong.Like the distance from Auckland to Chile or  Buenos Aires. Believe it or not, that's real life.

I'm sorry if it doesn't please you because it makes your map inaccurate, but you cannot just simply dismiss every single flight witch does not fit your beliefs.
For example How do you "correct" this

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Tahiti - Tokyo 9.518  corrected as 5.819

when this record

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/THT78/history/20180128/1700Z/NTAA/RJAA

shows that the plane needs near 12 hours to reach Tokyo... That's something about 480 km/hr of average speed for an Airbus A340. Really slow, Really really slow for such a long flight. Your "corrected" distance do not make sense. How did you calculate it ?

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Flat Earth General / Re: The world's most accurate map
« on: February 01, 2018, 11:20:17 PM »
Thank you for your word.
Another interesting point would be Easter Island. It's a good one because it's a well known touristic place and has verified flights from Polynesia and Chile.

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I'm sorry, but i don't understand your sentences. Anyways, do you agree that you need about  3h30 to get from Auckland to Sydney ?

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You really should look at Auckland. It has strong connections with South America, Asia North America and Australia. It may help to locate Australia.

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It would be interesting to add Auckland too, it's near Sydney

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Question in regards to "denpressure"
« on: January 30, 2017, 02:21:10 PM »
Yes, not in reality, but in their model, there is no gravity to cause the pressure gradient.
This pressure gradient should thus push the air up making the air higher have a greater pressure until it equilibriates.
They would thus need to appeal to some other force to explain this pressure gradient, like gravity.
Again, what you're describing physically could not happen in the denpressure model. You're never going to be able to increase the pressure at a point where molecules are physically incapable of moving.
I'm not talking about the dome.
I am talking about just at a small altitude, where the air is still breathable, but at a significantly lower pressure.

His model also seems to ignore another very important fact, how temperature works.
If the air is pushing against these molecules at 0K, then they will be receiving energy and heating up.
You need to acknowledge the dome though: that's part of the reason behind the stacking. It gives a clear vertical bias to the air.
The near-0K spread is sizeable. Yes, some air might expand and exert a tiny, tiny, tiny amount of energy, and maybe that'll get an adjacent molecule to a hair's breadth past its melting point, but what then? It still takes energy to move, which is thoroughly lacking. The dome isn't fixed in place, it 'breathes' as the Sun's light moves around raising some parts up with heat, a point without that is simply not going to be capable of movement.
Jame, something still puzzles me.
This dome is, as I understand, an hemishpere, with a radial distribution of stacking/pressure/whatever thing. If there is a vertical-only stacking, the "dome" should be an horizontal ceiling, eventually infinite, but at a fixed height from the surface.
If it's a dome this implies that the stacking direction could only be strictly vertical at the north pole. Every other place should receive an angled pressure/force  direction. How is it explained ?


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Flat Earth General / Re: Air Pressure vs Gravity
« on: December 13, 2016, 05:21:58 AM »
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Vacuum effects about 5 t/m2 in land level.

Think an average man as 80 kgs and 1,80 metres. Get it 2 metre for easy calculating. We can get width of a human as 1 meter. So a human about 1m withg * 2 mt heigh * 2 sides = 4 m2

Intikam bad calculate, as always. Air pressure aprox 1013 hPa = 10 t/m². Intikam wrong by 100%. Intikam forget vacuum holder work adherence force, not atmosphere force.
And average human body surface is 2m² not 4m². Again Intikam off by 100%.
Little light not give good advice to Intikam.


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This isn't a pleasure cruise. I don't know what you think a mars trip will be like.
Pooping in bags is perfectly fine. Pee into a water reclaimer to get the water back.
They will have to excercise, communicate, mantain the ship, and do math all the time.
Sounds crazy. Is this the purpose of human space travel? What can we learn from it?
Anyway, topic is my Challenge about safe, human space travel, etc, etc. How much fuel is required?
If you are given a answer for how much fuel, how will you decided if it is correct?

Remember...
Quote from: Heiwa
As your speed is already quite big ~8000 m/s in orbit to change it up or down 100 m/s, requires plenty energy, say 441 238 J/kg spacecraft. To change it from 0 to 100 m/s on ground requires only 5 000 J/kg or 88 times less.

Yes... after more than 12 years of repeated explanations Heiwa still doesn't understand how to properly calculate rocket energy variations....
How can you expect him to judge correctly his "challenge" ?

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No audience on the other site ? bored ?
BTW, you have been convicted of holocaust denial. You are a waste for humanity.
Added to my ignore list. Goodbye  :D

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: I do not trust ANYONE on this forum.
« on: June 28, 2016, 05:29:45 AM »
For my part, I do not agree with your request.
On the registration agreement, you'll find this rule:
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Please note that with each post, your IP address is recorded, in the event that you need to be banned from this forum or your ISP contacted. This will only happen in the event of a major violation of this agreement or the Forum Rules.
It cleary states the purpose of IP recording, and your request is obviously out of it . I barely see why you should have unrestricted access to this private database for whatever reason. Meanwhile, if this access is granted to you, I ask for it too.
I respectfully ask moderators to give their answer here and not by PM.

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Ok, lets see your calculations then.
2287000/541=4427,3567

These are not calculations, just a bunch of numbers.
You said "2 287 000 meters according my calculations" . Ok, please show the calculations for this  given distance.

BTW, Are you suggesting that
- the acceleration is constant ?
- The trajectory is a straight line ?
if not, how can you calculate an "average speed" like this ?

Still no answer to this ? Quite surprising....

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Ok, lets see your calculations then.
2287000/541=4427,3567

These are not calculations, just a bunch of numbers.
You said "2 287 000 meters according my calculations" . Ok, please show the calculations for this  given distance.

BTW, Are you suggesting that
- the acceleration is constant ?
- The trajectory is a straight line ?
if not, how can you calculate an "average speed" like this ?

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Example: According NASA at http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11MIssionReport_1971015566.pdf Apollo 11 entered the atmosphere at altitude ~120 000 m at latitude 3.19°S, longitude 171.96° E (location B using my terminology = the re-entry starting point) at 195:03:05 h/m/s with speed ~11.000 m/s (direction in 3D unknown) and deployed the drogue parachute at latitude 13.25° S, longitude 169.16° W at 195:12:06 h/m/s, i.e. 9 minutes and 1 second later (total 541 seconds of re-entry).
The distance travelled between these two locations was then only 2 287 000 meters according my calculations, i.e. the average speed was only 4 227 m/s..

Ok, lets see your calculations then.

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Fine.Please give the name, adress and phone number of your council. I'll phone him directly.
I don't think she wants to talk to you. Any questions, etc, must be posed to me. My full style is at my web page.
You are not a lawyer and your opinion is irrelevant here.
Please identify your council as you have involved her yourself. She will be phoned by myself this morning. Are you afraid of a single and innocent phone call asking for legal clarifications?
My opinion is very relevant here. I don't want my council being phoned by sick, crazy, stupid crackbrained persons, etc. It is better I handle those twirps in my normal, curtly manner.
You don't need to publish it here. Send me a PM.

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Fine.Please give the name, adress and phone number of your council. I'll phone him directly.
I don't think she wants to talk to you. Any questions, etc, must be posed to me. My full style is at my web page.
You are not a lawyer and your opinion is irrelevant here.
Please identify your council as you have involved her yourself. She will be phoned by myself this morning. Are you afraid of a single and innocent phone call asking for legal clarifications?

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Fine.Please give the name, adress and phone number of your council. I'll phone him directly.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Formula for the Density of Aether
« on: November 28, 2015, 10:06:17 PM »
Please don't derail this topic, there is nothing new here, Sandokan's personal ideas and "measurements" have been beaten to death for years now.

JRowe, how could you expect to observe/measure/verify this kind of formula when we can't obviously access to the absolute referential, namely the space behind your aether ?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: About GPS, OneStar and stuff...
« on: November 07, 2015, 12:05:35 AM »
Fact: No one that works in a space/aviation enterprise, no aircraft pilots, no crewmen/women of said aircraft, no astronaut, evere, supported a flat earth.

People who actually work in aerospace area simply won't even CONSIDER a flat earth, since they work perfectly using round-earth navigational methods and systems.
I work in a space/aviation enterprise and I am an aircraft pilot.
Since you do not believe in FET, that's perfectly consistent.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The Million Dollar Question
« on: June 26, 2015, 07:25:40 AM »
I don’t know your intentions; but I don’t like people who give me no options - “DO THIS! or else it will be done with or without your permission.”

My failure to put a circa symbol © on everything I write doesn't make my works non copyrighted. By law, the moment I put the idea in readable form, it's copyrighted. It wouldn't matter if I had written it on a napkin. Even if a work is not officially registered, it can be defended upon proof of ownership (a copy of a web page with a time-date stamp is proof).

I officially give no one here permission to copy my works in whole or in part. If a moderator wants to move the entire subject, so be it.

Please note that your avatar uses an image from Michel Granger:

http://www.granger-michel.com/project/disque-jean-michel-jarre-cover4/
As you seem very sensitive to copyrighted material, you should apply the same standards to other people's work.

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