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Flat Earth General / Re: Anyone amongst the Flat Earth people with an actual scientific background?

« on: September 03, 2024, 03:17:09 PM »

Most of the topics we discuss aren't part of the science curriculum for even Astronomy and Earth Science doctoral students. They don't like teaching about the problems of the model.

Ha Ha, imagine that.  FE topics not being part of the Science curriculum, not even for Astronomy students. Who knows -- maybe it's taught in Psych. courses. Not sure, because I never took any of those but I think they might get into delusions and conspiracies there -- that's probably a better fit than in the science curriculum.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What keeps the Sun and Flat Earth from crashing into each other?

« on: August 24, 2024, 05:56:13 AM »

We cannot measure a made up idiotic force

Ha. You posted the above right after I posted this challenge:

Then what do you suppose this experiment is measuring if it's not the gravitational constant:

https://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/sites/sand.npl.washington.edu.eotwash/files/documents/prl85-2869.pdf

Stop bloviating and answer the question.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What keeps the Sun and Flat Earth from crashing into each other?

« on: August 03, 2024, 01:14:34 PM »

No made up magical force called ‘gravity’ exists at all

Then what do you suppose this experiment is measuring if it's not the gravitational constant:
https://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/sites/sand.npl.washington.edu.eotwash/files/documents/prl85-2869.pdf

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What keeps the Sun and Flat Earth from crashing into each other?

« on: July 18, 2024, 03:13:44 PM »

The OP should realize that biographers and believers of Newton admit that he suffered from a debilitating mental condition.
 
The severity of his condition has led to negating the intent of any imbedded aspirational logic he was pushing forward in his theories.

It is one area the scientific community is having problems reconciling, when trying to defend themselves against the rising tide of provable claims made by the FE community.

In other words, you have no idea how to answer the question.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What keeps the Sun and Flat Earth from crashing into each other?

« on: July 16, 2024, 06:57:29 PM »

I guess from the fact that in four months no one has answered, it means no one can answer it.  Which makes sense because it's an unexplainable consequence of assuming the earth is flat.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravity, just understood it existed

« on: March 15, 2024, 08:29:16 PM »

Come back again when you understand that it doesn't exist.

Here is the best experiment I have seen that actually measures gravity:

https://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/sites/sand.npl.washington.edu.eotwash/files/documents/prl85-2869.pdf

If you think gravity doesn't exist, then what is this experiment measuring?  And if that is (probably) too complicated for you, try standing on a scale and see if it measures anything.

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Flat Earth Debate / What keeps the Sun and Flat Earth from crashing into each other?

« on: March 14, 2024, 12:42:57 PM »

I don't want to start a discussion on what causes gravity.  Whether it's gravitons or warped space-time or whatever,  it apparently manifests itself as force attracting masses to each other.

The combination of gravity and Newtonian circular motion explains well how the earth can stay in orbit around the sun without crashing into it due to the attractive force between them.

In Flat Earth theory, what keeps the earth and sun from crashing into each other due to that attractive force since there is no orbital centrifugal force countering it?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Evidence for flat earth?

« on: March 02, 2024, 11:17:36 AM »

It’s that easy to prove Earth is flat, for absolute fact.

Look at a horizon about 3 miles away, at its center point from your position. Move along it at the same distance away, to see it as one straight line going across from you.

There wouldn't BE a horizon about 3 miles away if he earth were flat.  The existence of a nearby horizon when viewing out over a large body of water is the simplest proof that the earth is not flat.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Is the earth flat?

« on: August 06, 2023, 06:44:45 PM »

Hi, im new to this website. I was wondering if the earth is truly flat.

No.

Can you prove it?

Yes! It is easy to prove the earth is not flat.  Go to the shore of any large body of water like an ocean or one of the Great Lakes (if you are in the USA).  Open your eyes and look on a clear, quiet day. You will see a nearby horizon.  That would not exist if the earth were flat. That is PROOF the earth is not flat.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What is behind Flat Earth?

« on: March 17, 2023, 05:48:17 PM »

Even if it wasn't a typo, 50 miles or 150 miles, is not the crucial point of that post. The crucial point is the higher you go, you eventually reach a situation where there are essentially no gas molecules, just empty space. Thus proving outer space exists.

Exactly.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What is behind Flat Earth?

« on: March 15, 2023, 01:13:42 PM »

How would anyone of them possibly 'know', from this point, that the Earth has a 'core', when they can't even prove it's a 'ball', or that 'space' exists

It is well established that the air gets thinner and thinner as you move away from the earth's surface until further than 15 miles or so, there are essentially no gas molecules.  Empty space. What is hard (for you) to understand about that?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Calling FE’s, draw out how a sunset works on a flat Earth?

« on: February 04, 2023, 07:43:44 AM »

It cannot be properly sketched on a 2d paper

Ha!  What can't properly be sketched on 2d paper is a fixed-scale map of a 2d flat earth with accurate distances and continent sizes. Why do you imagine that is?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Use density to break 2X4 no force/gravity

« on: December 02, 2022, 06:00:56 PM »

At least when you explain something obvious to a box of rocks, it accepts what you say. But not Scepti.

Maybe that's your problem. Try not to converse with boxes of rocks and thinking they talk back.

Ha. I'd rather explain something to a box of rocks than try to explain it to you. I don't get back nonsense from the rocks.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Use density to break 2X4 no force/gravity

« on: November 27, 2022, 12:51:55 PM »

At least when you explain something obvious to a box of rocks, it accepts what you say. But not Scepti.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Is the earth flat?

« on: October 26, 2022, 08:13:40 PM »

Hi, im new to this website. I was wondering if the earth is truly flat.

No.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Size of the sun

« on: September 20, 2022, 06:00:57 PM »

Why has nobody ever observed the sun changing size of the sun through the day, as it must do if its moving closer and further away from you

Why would the sun appear to change in size in the Flat Earth model if it is a great distance away?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Observation directly disproves "Water always finds its level"

« on: August 07, 2022, 12:44:52 PM »

'Gravity' doesn't exist, has no PROOF of existing, cannot be DEMONSTRATED as existing, because it does NOT exist.

Here is the best measurement of the gravitational constant:

https://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/sites/sand.npl.washington.edu.eotwash/files/documents/prl85-2869.pdf

Proof enough.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What experiments can I do to prove that the Earth is flat?

« on: June 18, 2022, 01:31:45 PM »

Being out of focus is what we SEE as out of focus, and isn't causing stars to appear to constantly move and change shape, that is complete nonsense.

The problem is you appear to, going by your responses, to know very little about either cameras or telescopes or how they work. Your obvious confusion could easily be rectified by you taking a look through a properly set up astronomical telescope or reading about how to take photographs of the stars. If you had a mind to discover the real truth of the matter you could be put right in moments and discover just how wrong you have been.

Here is a guy who takes photographs of the night sky from his back yard.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10603357/Astronomer-captures-photos-distant-nebulas-telescope-East-Ayrshire-garden.html

Thats how stars actually look when set up properly, not when viewed through a shaky out of focus camera.

Prove that any 'out of focus' camera could ever make each star look and move differently from one another, with ANY light seen in the distance on Earth, or any airplane lights above Earth, at any distance you choose.

They've kept on telling, over and over again, that the stars 'appear to twinkle', due to our 'atmosphere', so why wouldn't they tell us that when magnified through a telescope, stars appear to move and have unique shapes, due to our 'atmosphere', too?

They never said stars would appear like that, from an 'out of focus camera', either!

No, they just kept telling us that's why stars appear to 'twinkle'! I suppose they all 'forgot' to mention all these incredible 'effects' of the stars, caused by our atmosphere, over these centuries! Good one!

You appear to not understand the difference between being out-of-focus and being beyond the resolution limit of a lens.

If something (like a star) is far enough away that its image on the image-sensing device (film or digital array or, in the case of your eye, the retina) is smaller than the resolving power of the imaging lens, the image will not even resemble the star even though the system is accurately focused on the star. 

In such a case, what you see is a tiny spot of light that is essentially the Airy Disk of the lens (look it up). And yes it visually "twinkles" because of atmospheric distortions.

It's basic optics. I know it could be hard for you.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What experiments can I do to prove that the Earth is flat?

« on: June 13, 2022, 09:22:58 AM »

I want to ask the people here for some experiments/tests I can do to prove that the earth is flat.

Well in spite of all the above discussion about what others have tried or claimed, the short answer to your question is: There is no experiment you can do to prove the earth is flat.

Do you often conduct experiments where you have already drawn a conclusion? Seems like a pretty unscientific and biased way to look for answers

You asked a question.  I provided a simple, correct answer. There is no experiment you can do to prove the earth is flat. Just like there is no experiment you can do to prove that a hippopotamus can fly. How I conduct experiments is irrelevant. Please stay on topic.

Jesus Timmy, it’s hard to take any comment you make as serious or with any credibility when you don’t even have the decency to try and conceal your alt.

I don't have any alts.  What makes you think I do? Or are you just making it up?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What experiments can I do to prove that the Earth is flat?

« on: June 12, 2022, 06:04:11 PM »

I want to ask the people here for some experiments/tests I can do to prove that the earth is flat.

Well in spite of all the above discussion about what others have tried or claimed, the short answer to your question is: There is no experiment you can do to prove the earth is flat.

Do you often conduct experiments where you have already drawn a conclusion? Seems like a pretty unscientific and biased way to look for answers

You asked a question.  I provided a simple, correct answer. There is no experiment you can do to prove the earth is flat. Just like there is no experiment you can do to prove that a hippopotamus can fly. How I conduct experiments is irrelevant. Please stay on topic.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What experiments can I do to prove that the Earth is flat?

« on: June 04, 2022, 12:16:21 PM »

I want to ask the people here for some experiments/tests I can do to prove that the earth is flat.

Well in spite of all the above discussion about what others have tried or claimed, the short answer to your question is: There is no experiment you can do to prove the earth is flat.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Question: McMurdo

« on: February 27, 2022, 05:40:57 PM »

Various methods have been attempted. I myself have tried a few methods of inducing such a results vicariously, cooperatively, and repetitively.

Well good for you. How high did your balloon go? High enough to get pictures of its curvature? Got pictures? We're waiting.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Flat Earth Maps?

« on: February 21, 2022, 07:34:03 PM »

The thing is that the main distortions occur in places where roads don’t even exist. Such as Sahara desert, oceans, etc. United States and Europe is unlikely to be distorted,

Well then here's a little project for you:  Take a map of the United States. Use the established distances between Boston, Miami, Seattle, and San Diego and the fixed scale indicated on the map.  Try to verify the distances using a ruler and the map scale. If the earth were flat it would be easy to do, but you won't be able to do it because of the distortions caused by trying to lay the map of a curved surface out on a flat sheet of paper.

Why would I put a flat map on a ball and expect the result to be worthwhile in demonstrating reality. Only morons want to take the reality of a flat earth and desire to place it on a ball and then try to gaslight the shit out of an audience.

Are you totally incapable of understanding? I never mentioned a ball. I asked you to take a map and try to use its scale to verify established distances between major cities. And all you do is come up with senseless rant.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Sunray Goes Down and then Up Like a Parabola Curve

« on: February 16, 2022, 02:49:05 PM »

You can't deny the truth, you can't deny the dark side of the moon

There is no dark side of the moon. Anywhere on the moon goes through periods of light and periods of dark just like on earth.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Flat Earth Maps?

« on: February 09, 2022, 05:34:49 AM »

The thing is that the main distortions occur in places where roads don’t even exist. Such as Sahara desert, oceans, etc. United States and Europe is unlikely to be distorted,

Well then here's a little project for you:  Take a map of the United States. Use the established distances between Boston, Miami, Seattle, and San Diego and the fixed scale indicated on the map.  Try to verify the distances using a ruler and the map scale. If the earth were flat it would be easy to do, but you won't be able to do it because of the distortions caused by trying to lay the map of a curved surface out on a flat sheet of paper.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Was Earth Flat?

« on: January 14, 2022, 05:58:18 AM »

If my proofs of Riemann and abc conjectures get published, then any my subsequent texts will be positively peer-reviewed and published.

If you had a proof of the Riemann conjecture, it would have been published and you would be famous.  But it hasn't been, and you aren't. And we won't hold our breath.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Anchorage to Stockholm via Seattle??? Goodbye Globe, Goodbye Conventional FE

« on: January 05, 2022, 08:45:28 PM »

You cannot cross the center of north pole, because it doesn't exist. It's a huge rim.

Sure you can.  Flights cross the center of the North Pole by going through the NP Vortex wormhole.  Everybody knows that.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Is it even possible for everyday person to get definitive evidence...

« on: December 29, 2021, 02:43:56 PM »

Well while I can't personally prove the earth is round, I can design and have conducted a personal experiment numerous times that proves the earth is not flat! Even you could do it if they will unlock the doors and let you out.  Here it is:

Go to the seashore on a clear, quiet day. Look out over the water and see the well-defined horizon just a few miles away.  The fact that such a nearby well-defined horizon exists at all is proof the earth is not flat.

As you can read from the many posts here, that does not cut the mustard for many people. I think the word that was used was definitive proof. Im not sure if ships going over the horizon on its own would qualify. Plus from a more practice reason relying on an experiment that just uses our senses is not that reliable or repeatable in a way that would produce results free from what is after all subjective opinion.

Oh come on! What is not reliable or repeatable about viewing a nearby horizon over open water? What is subjective opinion about that? It's a definitive, repeatable, verifiable experiment that proves the earth is not flat.

Ugh. No. It provides evidence that the Earth might not be flat based on the current understanding about how the universe behaves.

Well the nearby horizon is proof enough for me.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Is it even possible for everyday person to get definitive evidence...

« on: December 28, 2021, 06:26:28 PM »

Well while I can't personally prove the earth is round, I can design and have conducted a personal experiment numerous times that proves the earth is not flat! Even you could do it if they will unlock the doors and let you out.  Here it is:

Go to the seashore on a clear, quiet day. Look out over the water and see the well-defined horizon just a few miles away.  The fact that such a nearby well-defined horizon exists at all is proof the earth is not flat.

As you can read from the many posts here, that does not cut the mustard for many people. I think the word that was used was definitive proof. Im not sure if ships going over the horizon on its own would qualify. Plus from a more practice reason relying on an experiment that just uses our senses is not that reliable or repeatable in a way that would produce results free from what is after all subjective opinion.

Oh come on! What is not reliable or repeatable about viewing a nearby horizon over open water? What is subjective opinion about that? It's a definitive, repeatable, verifiable experiment that proves the earth is not flat.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Is it even possible for everyday person to get definitive evidence...

« on: December 28, 2021, 06:41:39 AM »

How about you state how You without recourse to any kind of expert knowledge or assistance  devise an experiment to prove the shape of the earth beyond doubt.
Fat chance!

After 14 pages no one has. Why do you think that? Could it be because not one of you has a clue?

What a bunch of self deluded loosers!

Well while I can't personally prove the earth is round, I can design and have conducted a personal experiment numerous times that proves the earth is not flat! Even you could do it if they will unlock the doors and let you out.  Here it is:

Go to the seashore on a clear, quiet day. Look out over the water and see the well-defined horizon just a few miles away.  The fact that such a nearby well-defined horizon exists at all is proof the earth is not flat.