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Shifter postedQuoteWhat you believe to be stars ARE the vent holes.
Vent holes that glow in the dark and circle around in the night sky? Yeah, that make sense and should be easy to prove with logic.
It must be colder out there on the outside of the universe, where the vent holes are venting the heat to. All we have to do is apply the formula for heat transfer, Q = mcΔT, plug in the appropriate values, and bingo, a whole new picture to replace the Hertzsprung–Russell diagram.
So, it's just a coincidence that so many of those vent holes happen to glow the same as the Sun (Class G stellar spectra)? Oh, wait, the Sun must be one of those vent holes too! Well, that's good. Being so close to the Earth, and so much bigger than all those other vent holes, the Sun helps to keep the Earth cool.
I love it when all the facts fit together so well to give us a better understanding of the universe.
The very same unsubstantiated claims come from people like yourself,Such as?Quote from: sceptimaticunless you think Hollywood type films are your evidence as well as made up equations to suit whatever size fantasy rockets are put before the public.No, the equations are not "made up equations to suit whatever size fantasy rockets" they were carefully derived and suit all sized rockets.
The operation of rockets has been understood for centuries and even the limits of what rockets can do was first shown some 150 years ago.
And "The Tsiolkovsky rocket equation, classical rocket equation, or ideal rocket equation" that defines these limits is about 120 years old.Quote from: sceptimaticYou're sat there reeling off nothing more than book and picture feed by mimicking.And do you expect me to waste my time drawing those diagrams and deriving those equation just to be ridiculed by you!
Not plurry likely!
Like conspiracy theorists in general, though far worse than most, you simply justify all your fiction by automatically claiming that all contrary evidence is faked.
But in your case you've got nothing, no evidence nor explanations that really work for anything yet you've got the cheek to riducule everybody else.
I think you meant figuratively. If he was literally the Grinch, he'd be a fictional character.But for added fun with English, literally can mean figuratively.
A lot of extra money "spent'' on the fix. No better way to get money than to convince people they'll lose all the original investment. And no one now blames NASA on the error, they laud them on the repair.
Why go through the pretence? A simple viewing of a sunset destroys all FE models. That happens daily.
How does a sunset destroy "all" FE models? The sun goes underneath the Earth at night and comes back up in the morning. Even the Aztecs knew this, though they believed the sun had to fight off demons underneath the Earth so they killed people to give the sun strength for its battles, which was even more wacky than the round-Earth theory.
Sunsets are sometimes very pretty. I love a good sunset. (And I'm glad the sun doesn't actually have to fight off demons at night.) But the sun going under the Earth does not disprove all FE models. It only disproves the wackadoodle FE theories that claim that the sun doesn't go underneath at night.
If the sun goes underneath the Earth, there would be no daylight on the earth for a period of time for anyone. That doesn't happen, so.... back to sunset destroys FE Models.
There would be daylight for the people living on the under-side of the Earth.
Personally, I think that could be an ocean swell, but if the earth were spherical, would we really see a curved horizon if we saw the same distance in all ditrections?
The moon and sun have been mathematically calculated to be around 3000 miles above the Earth.
- Show me these mathematical calculations of the moon's being "around 3000 miles above the Earth".
- And I can just as easily show you mathematical calculations of the sun's being:
less than 700 miles above the earth (using Rowbotham's data),
a little over 1600 miles above the earth (using Voliva's method but with points 5000 miles apart),
around 3000 miles above the Earth (using Voliva's method) and
almost 4000 miles above the Earth (using Eratosthenes locations applied to a flat earth).
And all based on the Flat Earth Wiki though using that information puts the sun using Voliva's method at a bit over 3100 miles.
Funny that! Just how far is the sun above the flat again?
You have been here for years. This is probably the 10th or 12th time you have asked me to provide calculations for this subject, and each time I do, then you go silent or pretend to ignore me. I am not here to be ignored, so I will no longer be providing you with the same calculations over and over. I am tired of your games.
The flat earth hypothesis needs it to be impossible so the photographs showing a globular can be dismissed as fake.
That's not what I said. I asked why in the flat earth model is space travel not possible? and if it is why have no flat earth people tried?
and massive amount of photographic evidence?Bah. Who cares about photographic evidence? I'd settle for a plausible explanation for a flat earth sunset.
