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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Refuting FE-ers' arguments
« on: August 01, 2017, 01:43:31 AM »
This is perhaps one of the smartest threads on this forum. I wonder how it fell into oblivion.

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To me it doesn't really seem like FlatAssembler is being objective. As for the national minorities, listen, people are way more likely to believe in a conspiracy if a person died in an accident than if it survived, even though the actual probability is equal. And maybe the number of Germans and Italians went drastically down because of them not having children, rather than so many of them having been murdered. I haven't look into it very much, that just seems like a natural assumption. As for the president Broz, if you look about his death on Wikipedia, you'll see that he was actually quite ill weeks before he died. Newspapers were, of course, full of the stories about his health. The fact that there were conspiracy theories about him being poisoned is not really that surprising. So, yeah, I think that FlatAssembler is doing exactly the same mistakes Americans do when they believe in 9/11 conspiracy theories.

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Flat Earth General / Re: New to Flat Earth Theory
« on: July 26, 2017, 05:45:44 AM »
This is like saying that leap years are evidence that the Earth is revolving slower and slower. No, it's just that the revolution and the rotation of the Earth are not completely correlated.
Also, you appear to be doing a false dichotomy here. Even if Heliocentrism is incorrect, that in no way implies that the Earth is flat. The evidence for the Earth being round is still overwhelming, a lot higher than the evidence that the Earth orbits the Sun.
Can we guys just try to stay on topic? My question was what do people on this forum (both Flat Earthers and Round Earthers) think about the thread I linked to?

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Flat Earth General / New to Flat Earth Theory
« on: July 25, 2017, 09:11:30 AM »
Hi, guys. New here. I've been reading the Flat Earth Wiki and the locked threads above and I've seen FlatEarthDenial linking to this thread:
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67051.0
So, what do you guys think about it? To me it seems very smart. Though it appears to be forgotten for some reason.

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If I wanted to be sure I'm not feeding the trolls, the last thing I would do is talk to people who claim to believe the Earth is flat. And how could somebody think FlatAssembler is a troll?

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You know, Heiwa, free thinking doesn't mean thinking free from logic.

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Does increasing the pleasure of exploited humans help them? This is a no-brainer.
Does passing a law that tells the unemployed: "If you can't make the employer pay you at least $x.xx, you mustn't apply for a job!" help the poor? That seems like a no-brainer to me. It doesn't help.

That's not how it works at all.

Raising the minimum wage does have some issues, this is not one of them.
If you are going to contradict both the scientific consensus and the most basic common sense, at least show some evidence!

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Yeah, what FlatAssembler wrote is certainly helpful with some pseudolinguists, but probably not with Intikam. Is he still banned? Why hasn't he even tried to respond?

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Airplanes don't exist
« on: July 24, 2017, 09:59:09 AM »
So, what do you think, is this thread really useful to link the conspiracy theorists to?

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Instead of trying to explain him nuclear physics, rather make Heiwa learn why conspiracy theories are unlikely. If you give someone a loaf of bread, you feed him for a day. If you teach a person how to sow, you feed him for entire life.

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A bunch of people keeping a secret is the exact definition of conspiracy. And it is way more likely that you don't understand something than that all the science is wrong and that there are massive conspiracies. And those conspiracies would really have to be massive because of the reasons I explained earlier in this thread.

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Does increasing the pleasure of exploited humans help them? This is a no-brainer.
Does passing a law that tells the unemployed: "If you can't make the employer pay you at least $x.xx, you mustn't apply for a job!" help the poor? That seems like a no-brainer to me. It doesn't help.

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Hi, Heiwa! I haven't really read the entire thread, but I've seen you support the conspiracy theories that the Moon landing was fake and some 9/11 conspiracy theory. These are crazy theories. Astronauts have left mirrors on the Moon, they are detectable by lasers, and millions of people have examined it. The 9/11 attack has had countless investigations, both governmental and non-governmental, and those investigations together have certainly involved thousands of people, all of which would have to be involved in a conspiracy. And there is no clear motive for that. Plus, if your alleged evidence, that official reports contradict the basic physics and that the photographs and videos contain obvious anomalies, was real, that would certainly require millions of people to be in a conspiracy. The biggest conspiracy ever proven to be real was Operation Snow White, involving, according to some sources, some 5000 people. And there was, unlike with your theories, a clear motive behind it (they had to destroy evidence against their religious leader).

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So, what are your opinions about minimum wage?

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I think that Heiwa is suffering from the Sunk Cost Fallacy. He is probably thinking "I've spent so much time spreading bullshit. If I stop right now, it would mean I wasted my time.", instead of thinking "OK, I've learned a lot of rocket science (though I could have learned it in a less painful way), I should now do something useful with it!"

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People, what's your evidence that words help with the conspiracy theorists? If a person doesn't want to believe in airplanes, he can always find ridiculous excuses not to. And the same is true, if not even more, with rockets.

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Just to add some context to make this even more hilarious. Turkish nationalists have been propagating the idea that all the world languages descended from Old Turkish for over a century now. It's called Sun Language Theory. And, yes, it's considered by mainstream linguistics to be complete bullshit. It's funny how Flat-Earthers claim to be free thinkers, yet they fall on political propaganda way easier than most of the Round-Earthers do.
(Assuming we aren't seeing the Poe's law in action here, which is actually very likely.)

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: Airplanes don't exist
« on: July 21, 2017, 12:37:00 PM »
I suggest you buy an airplane ticket and see for yourself.
And, if you see something you can't explain, isn't it more likely that you are hallucinating than that it's real? Think of the dragons.

Joking aside. Anyway, I think that the solution to the FlatAssembler's puzzle is that the Torricelli's law dictates the speed of the fluid right when it's left the container. Of course the fluid needs to accelerate in the container to reach that speed.

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