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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Distances in the universe
« on: April 27, 2017, 05:55:59 AM »
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The topic is "Distances in the universe" so a simple question:
what is the distance of the sun, moon and planets from the earth?

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Uuumm... 3,000 miles?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Distances in the universe
« on: April 27, 2017, 05:49:08 AM »
because their movement just will not fit into their model!
Lol, true. I've heard flat earthers so desperate that after they've been backed up into a corner about there being observable gravity right above their heads flatties will go as far as to say that the images of the planets you see ARE PRE-PROGRAMMED into the telescope!

When asking them: "What about optical telescopes during galileos time? HE saw jupiters moons orbit and he HIMSELF made his telescope so how could there be pre-programmed images in there during the 17th century?"

Then the flat earther went on to rant about how Galileo was apparently a "Freemason" and how he "lied" about the existence of planets and to top it off he said that I should accept Jesus Christ as my lord and saviour and that I should accept the "fact" that Christianity apparently isn't a religion because it's the "truth".

You can't fix stupid.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Distances in the universe
« on: April 27, 2017, 04:27:23 AM »
Odd. Because you can actually OBSERVE this "magical" force in action by taking out a telescope, pointing it at Jupiter and then start watching the positions of it's moons for a few days.

Hmm, what force could be causing the moons of Jupiter to orbit it in roughly circular orbits?



Thank you, desertphile.

Bruh, gravity is observable around Jupiter. I can't believe I have to explain that to you.


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I wonder if Inflatearth is aware that one of the first iterations of the Big Bang was devised by a Belgian PRIEST and astronomer named George Lemaitres.
Oh my god the irony  ;D ;D

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Cloudless rain proves the earth is flat
« on: April 26, 2017, 06:22:19 AM »
How does this prove FE, only that you are batshit crazy
A particular flat earth model is that above the "dome" or "firmament" are the waters of heaven and when it rains God opens up the dome to let the waters of heaven pour out, and that's rain.

Apparently when it rains without clouds this proves to intikam that clouds and the water cycle are not always needed and the water truly is coming from heaven above the dome of the flat earth.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The flat earth model isn't scientific. Period.
« on: April 25, 2017, 05:33:52 AM »
You are talking about "obversations?".

Which objects pulling otherselves. Which laboratuary experiment proved object pulls each other?

You are so scientific and we want to see your obversations proves to the "mass gravity".
Take out a telescope and look at the planet Jupiter. You will see it's moons. Track the positions of the moons for a few days and you will notice the moons go around Jupiter.

That's gravity. Not "Aether".

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The flat earth model isn't scientific. Period.
« on: April 25, 2017, 05:04:10 AM »
Very few FE claim it to be scientific, instead calling it zetetic, which is different.  It is an explicit rejection of the scientific method.
I am aware of that, however it pisses me off that some flat earthers claim their model is "scientifically proven"

Please cite where a flat earther has ever said that here.
Not here, but elsewhere on the internet, like this meme: http://rationalwiki.org/w/images/c/c4/Globa_Foundation_for_Atheism.jpg

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If I look at genesis 1:
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

And than at genesis 2:
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

How can there no man at genesis 2:5, if he made them at genesis 1:26?

Can we count one of them as a lie?
No. Because InFlatEarth doesn't want it to be a lie, so it isn't. That's just how it works here.

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You guys do not have to keep feeding InFlatEarth.
At least InFlatEarth is a genuine idiot, rather than a troll.  Which is more than can be said for the FES members, like Junker, who just come here to try and make "permanoob" globulists angry.
If he isn't a troll, then I'll climb up to the top of his ego, jump down to his I.Q, die, and then I'll hope that I'll be reincarnated into another species... because I don't want to be the same species as fucking InFlatEarth.

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The biggest mystery to me related to the flat earth would be...

How gullible do you have to be to believe in a flat earth?

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You guys do not have to keep feeding InFlatEarth.
Exactly! My troll detector is off the charts, right now.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The flat earth model isn't scientific. Period.
« on: April 24, 2017, 06:40:40 AM »
Very few FE claim it to be scientific, instead calling it zetetic, which is different.  It is an explicit rejection of the scientific method.
I am aware of that, however it pisses me off that some flat earthers claim their model is "scientifically proven"

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Flat Earth Debate / The flat earth model isn't scientific. Period.
« on: April 24, 2017, 06:27:15 AM »
Science is all about making models of the universe based on observations, and then trying as hard as possible to DISPROVE them... unfortunetly, flat earthers make a model based on an observation, (the horizon looks flat!) immediately proclaiming it to be true, and then completely ignoring evidence that disproves it and then start desperately scrambling for evidence that somehow "proves" the flat earth model.

Probably my favourite part about the flat earth model is the unexplained forces that apparently pull the moon and the sun in circles above the flat earth. A lot of flat earthers will just say "hurr durr magic from gawd" but some admittedly smarter flat earthers will claim that these celestial bodies are being pulled around through a material called "Aether" otherwise known as "Quintessence". Not only has Aether not shown any evidence of its existence in all of human history, flat earthers fail to explain why or how it pulls on celestial bodies that are 37 kilometres across and presumably have a lot of weight. In short, watching a flat earther talk about this made up stuff called "Aether" is like watching a train derail itself and explode in slow motion.

Fabricating evidence is another trend for our flat earth friends: For example, flat earthers will constantly rail on and on about how the horizon apparently rises to eye-level; IT DOESN'T. This can be proven by using a theodolite which will determine the location of your eye-level compared to the location of the horizon. At plane altitudes the horizon will be about 3.5 degrees below eye-level... not noticeable without a theodolite, but definitely measurable with one.

Also, when boats disappear over the horizon, flat earthers will ramble incoherently about how you can allegedly take out a telescope and the boat will appear again... this is a LIE. Binoculars, telescopes (or really any magnification device) will make objects in front of you bigger... they don't allow you to suddenly see things that aren't there. That's a magical property that telescopes don't have, get over it.

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I do every day - I raise my hands to the heavens, pray to God (the Creator) and ask for His forgiveness.

But I do not pray to Mohammed, Jesus or any man God created from flesh, neither should you!

You may be a good person, but if you donít accept Jesus as the son of GOD, then you have not salvation.

Look at this video of a good non christian that went to hell and back


Oh look! This kid apparently went to heaven, but he admitted he made it up!
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/01/15/377589757/boy-says-he-didn-t-go-to-heaven-publisher-says-it-will-pull-book

Also, people have also claimed to have been abducted by aliens or have taken rides on halleys comet... does that mean that the experience they had is true, too? You have a terrible confirmation bias.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The Universe is Flat - Official!
« on: April 22, 2017, 12:52:50 AM »
Who's Geoff? It's callzter, mate.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The Universe is Flat - Official!
« on: April 22, 2017, 12:14:24 AM »
You really should read those links; your current persona is most threadbare...

Enough of your nonsense; let's look at some kids being brainwashed by mad cultists instead:



Wanna say 'creepy'?

Yes indeed-y!

Still, it gives us an idea of what the cage in onebigmarkjo's yard is for at any rate...
...Brainwashing? Bruhhh. She's explaining a proponent of the fact of gravity.

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I guess we will see on Judgment Day. That's a terrible day to find out for you... If what Jesus says is true. But then you have to read that...book. To actually see for yourself and realize the fate set. He will be fair and your own conscience... that will condemn you. And then...there is still time. Your reading this and breathing and thinking. What if your wrong? what if you've  been so proud that u would never let God into ur life. What if... I wonder how much you believe, That there is no God and that Christ never existed what is stopping you from all you desire. go for it. The world is yours. Don't bitch out. But please don't be a hypocrite. if you believe in your conviction. Lets really see how much you are a god.
Hey, when judgement day comes...

...Can I have your car? You won't be needing it when you get taken up! :D

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So in that way, if the bible got it wrong in estimating something that is not a lie?
It would be a lie because the bible is supposed to be the word of God and God is supposed to know everything. He doesn't have to make estimates, ever.

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Have they seen that the atoms stop spinning.
Also, Einsteinís theory of relativity only states that you can never approach the speed of light, but that does not mean that you canít pass it, mathematically speaking now.
They're vibrating, not spinning... and no, but we are making them slow down to VERY slow vibrations.
Also, where are you getting this info that einstein said we can never approach the speed of light? Citation needed. Also, being somehow able to pass it is a contradiction to your false claim that Einstein said that we can't approach it. Again, citiation needed please!

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Jack is a male. John is a male. Jack kill John. Therefore. All males are killers. Same thing
There's more specific evidence for the Big Bang but I left it out. Here it is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang#Observational_evidence

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Do you have concreate evidence that GOD did not make the Big Bang, but instead of billions of years it took only seconds?
Please refer to the link above. It doesn't tackle God but it does tackle the "billions of years" part. As for the God part please refer to my God of the gaps comment from before.

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No you labeled absolute zero at -273.15 C. without any visual proof that atoms stop their motion at -273.15 C and not -273.25 C based upon a belief that you are right in your calculations. Key word Belief thus religion.
Ughhhhh....
Look, it seems to get harder and harder as we push towards -273.15 C NOT -273.25 C. If absolute zero was in fact -273.25 C then we would be close to THAT instead but we're not we're instead closer to -273.15 C and it gets really hard to get closer and closer to that number. Because of this, we can estimate that absolute zero is around there. Not faith, but a pretty accurate estimate.

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Orthodox Christians have evidence every year, itís called the holy light.
You do know this has been explained, right? Here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Fire#Criticism Even if it was a miracle from God, that doesn't excuse the fact that thousands of children starve to death every day and God doesn't care about them. That doesn't excuse the fact that Christians lose limbs, pray for them to grow back and THEY NEVER DO.

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Plus all the miracles that happen to the believes and also to not believers like yourself which turn into believers.
I wanted to become a Christian when I was 11 but jesus never came to me in my prayers or did any magic tricks. I did research afterwards about his supposed existence and concluded he never existed in the first place. I became an atheist after that. Your point being...?

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If the scientist got the estimates wrong as when the atoms stop vibrating, then all the text books would have lied about Absolute Zero.
No, they wouldn't have lied they would've just been wrong like the estimates.

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Unless we observe all atoms from stopping there vibrations, then we donít know if it is true or not, but you take it by faith to be true.
Not exactly. You see, scientists have already quite recently gotten something to be a 1 billionth above absolute zero. Just like the speed of light, the closer you get to the limit, the better tech you need to go further. In this case, you just add more 9s to the -273.1499999 etc. Because the temperature doesn't seem to want to go lower than -273.149999 etc, we can be fairly sure that absolute zero is roughly -273.15. https://www.universetoday.com/8861/coldest-temperature-ever-created/

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The same thing is true about the Big Bang Hypothesis, since a small universe has never been made in a lab. So you think that the big band happened, without conducting any experiments to create one.
The good thing is we can use astronomical observations to see that the universe IS expanding. We don't need the crazy hyper technologies right now to test it because we already have evidence for the Big Bang.

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So you believe in something not because you see it, but because you believe in it.
Nooooo. Because we have astronomical and microwave evidence that the Big Bang did in fact occur. You see, someone didn't just come up with the Big Bang one day... a guy called Edwin Hubble noticed that galaxies were moving away so he thought "Hmm maybe there was a big explosion that caused this" and then later on some guys in New York found the cosmic microwave background which showed the remaining heat left over after the Big Bang.

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Why your belief at all atoms motions stop at Absolute Zero is a science and my belief in God a religion.
Because absolute zero is just the name for the temperature, and we have pretty good evidence and a pretty good idea what absolute zero is. Your God is a religion because it's unfalsifiable.

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They are both a religion
Science has evidence. Religion doesn't. Jeez you've been watching a lot of crazy YouTube videos, haven't you?

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Here's your gaps argument not from my previous post but comment, sorry for the confusion:

I couldn't answer some questions because we don't know the answers yet. However, that doesn't mean "God did it." People once couldn't explain thunderstorms and therefore said "God did it". This is called the God of the Gaps argument and it's really, really poor. Saying "God did it" makes you go "Okay, no further research needed then!" And so we never know the real truth.

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I honestly have to ask you mate, what kind of moron are you?

Yes, absolute zero does not exist in reality... YET... it's just the name of the temperature in which atoms stop moving, and it has YET to be observered in reality. Just because it hasn't been observered YET, doesn't mean it's a lie. Jesus Christ I'm 14 and even I know that!

I guess, you did not understand what I was trying to say because I did not explain it properly and for that Iím really sorry.

First of all, scientist are talking about things as being absolute true when it that does not exists in reality. That is a lie

Kelvin is a temperature scale which was created by scientist. Which is equal to C +273.

The scientists say that all molecules stop motion at 0 Kelvin.

Since you correctly said that we have not observed the atoms at 0 Kelvin, how do we know that atoms stop motion at 0 Kelvin, and not -1 Kelvin or Ė 20 Kelvin.

That is the lie, to state something as to be the absolute truth, without knowing the truth.

So when you say with a definite answer that all atoms stop motion at Absolute Zero, that is a lie. Or even some atoms may stop, while others need to go even at lower temperatures.

Do you understand? Science declares things as absolutely true, without proving it, like the Big Bang!

Prove that atoms stop motion at absolute zero in a lab, and also create a small Big Bang in the lab.
Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Okay, scientists realised that as things get colder, the atoms vibrated less and less. So, they made an ESTIMATE of the temperature in which atoms stop moving. The temperature they came up with was about -273.15 C which they named 0 kelvin or absolute zero. It's an estimate because it gets really difficult to make things colder and colder as you go down. Just like how when you approach the speed of light, it takes more and more energy to speed up more and more.

Also, the Big Bang has been proven by looking at galaxies which move away from us and the cosmic microwave background.

Google search.
It's a thing.

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Mate. I'm gonna get real now.

You must be trolling. Seriously. I just talked about in my post about how the god of the gaps argument is terrible, and you ignored it and proceeded to use the god of the gaps argument!!

You either are the greatest troll imaginable, or you are a complete idiot. I'm sorry, but it's true.

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So Absolute Zero is a Lie, because it does not exist in Reality. Thus you admit that your science lied, so why should we trust it in other matters.

Talk about false profets.

I honestly have to ask you mate, what kind of moron are you?

Yes, absolute zero does not exist in reality... YET... it's just the name of the temperature in which atoms stop moving, and it has YET to be observered in reality. Just because it hasn't been observered YET, doesn't mean it's a lie. Jesus Christ I'm 14 and even I know that!

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Great word, explains in 10 words how time, matter and space was created.
We don't know what happened before, but a sudden expansion of a very hot, dense point kickstarted the universe as well as time and space. (Oh sorry that was more than 10 words...)

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Can you show us the proof as to how time was created?
We don't know. All we know is that a very hot, small and dense point suddenly expanded and created matter. It might've been a whole universe before that collapsed and expanded over and over so time might've always existed... we just don't know.

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Can you please tell us as to why time only goes forward and not backwards or to the left or to the right like in the space dimensions.
We don't know.

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Can you please tell us why time canít be in a state of liquid, Gas or Solid like matter?
What a dumb question. Time doesn't become different states if liquids because it isn't a liquid. Time doesn't have a physical form, however time does seem to stretch and squeeze metaphorically with time dialation and huge black holes that bend space-time.

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Because GOD made it that way!!!
Okay? What exactly do I take from that?

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Once you can answer these question, then you can say that this might be a lie.
I couldn't answer some questions because we don't know the answers yet. However, that doesn't mean "God did it." People once couldn't explain thunderstorms and therefore said "God did it". This is called the God of the Gaps argument and it's really, really poor. Saying "God did it" makes you go "Okay, no further research needed then!" And so we never know the real truth.

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But you would have to show us an experiment where a miniaturized Big Bang was created in a laboratory where their is a small universe?
People are trying to make these things. We should get there eventually when the technology is good enough.

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FalseProphet you don't need to get so mad. If you want to find a lie in the bible, literally turn to page 1!  ;D

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The Earth is flat.

The Bible is correct.

Both these statements cannot be true at the same time.

It is either/or.

All the other FE and virtually all RE are forgetting how the Gauss Easter formula is applied to the official chronology of history.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg758652#msg758652


The Bible = the official chronology of history is also true

That means that the claims regarding the axial precession of the Earth, made by Hipparchus all the way to Kepler, are true.

The Earth is flat = all religious texts have been falsified quite recently, and that Christ was crucified in a different location and at a much later time in history


The most blatant contradiction in the Bible is this:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1619746#msg1619746

Here is another one:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1641885#msg1641885
Can the earth be round and the bible be false? That's where I stand on the issue.

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"The bible does not lie."
Hmm...

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

I found a lie. There ya go.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Is Anyone actually ready?
« on: April 21, 2017, 04:05:33 AM »
Religion is perfectly fine to have, like the lessons you learn from them like tolerance and thou shall not kill are great, but the issue I have is when people try and head it up against evidence and say oh my book can't be wrong because it was written before your Einstein made everything up
Amen!

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Homosexuality is illegal to GOD, that is not a lie.
In the USA, marijuana , which is 100% natural, is illegal to sell. But its natural. That is not a lie.
Well modern science has revealed that homosexuality is very much natural. Society, on the other hand, has decided to make marijuna illegal. The MAJORITY of society has also decided that homosexuality is legal when it's not harassment and when both partners agree on their choice. It's funny, because God worrying about where people put their private parts is pretty... gay if I'm honest.

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Bingo, homosexuality is unethical and thus an abomination to GOD, but he gives you the free will to decide if you will do it or not!!!
Cool. Free will. So, is God gonna punish people for using their free will on something that they were born with and can't control? Being gay is not a choice. Do some research, mate.

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So monkeys are animals too, are you saying that you are nothing more than a monkey?
I am not a monkey. Both me and you are Homo Sapiens. We are descendants of an ape relative. However, we are animals... and beautiful ones at that. We humans have the intelligence to form strong social structures, buildings and computers. Unfortunetly, we also have the intelligence to control people via threats of eternal damnation through a Centuries old book that claims it is written by a sky wizard... however the sky wizard depicted in the book seems to be jealous, homophobic, racist and infanticidal. A digusting deity indeed that does not deserve praise nor worship.

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Hey, did I say that I was a homophobe, I said that GOD said that it was an abomination. To GOD it is. Does that make it a lie.
Are you saying that because you donít agree with a persons or GODís values, that makes it a lie?

NO, just because we disagree, that does not make it into a lie.

Actually you are lying right know, if you claim that!!!
Forget the fact that's what this "God" says, if you are supporting this book that is homophobic and you believe it word for word then that makes you a homophobe. I've heard christians like you use this tactic before: They say "That's what Gawd says not me." And try to weasel their way out of being called a homophobe. Regardless if you said it or not, if you support a book word for word and it says homophobic things... sorry mate that makes you a homophobe!

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