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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: July 04, 2021, 11:55:53 AM »
Hiya kids, how's the map going? Is Bezods going to draw it?

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: December 12, 2015, 02:10:27 AM »
Some 4 years ago i queried why the FES hasn't contacted a cartographer to draw up a correct map of the Earth.
Hello???  It has already been done long ago and they sold out. 

You are going to have to wake up earlier than that next time.

No no it hasn't been done. If the earth had been mapped correctly mapped this noble society would be moot. It's existence is proof alone that no such map exists.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: December 12, 2015, 12:33:17 AM »
Hi there,

Apologies bu i'm a little tardy this year!  Anyhoo how's that map going? I'm a little concerned since I haven't seen anything on the news about this. But hey, the conspiracy might be to blame for the that.

Love you

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 15, 2014, 01:41:11 AM »
hi,

just popped in for my yearly map update?

love


P.S LW - I have raised 87.50 and 6 pesata's towards your trip on Branson's Rocket

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 05, 2013, 10:05:19 AM »
Cool, so what we've learnt is that it's entirely possible to map the Earth via crowd funding a correctly drawn up contract and by paying in stages like, i dunno, a continent at a time.

Thanks for helping


Anything is possible in the absolute sense. What we're discussing is what is possible given existing circumstances. We could not fund cartographers to map a city, never mind a continent.


I remember you challenging me to go into space if someone funded it. Years later, I still have not been to space. It amazes me that you are still so dismissive of the difficulty of funding such projects given your previous failures.

Look here you bet welching ruffian. I have been saving hard to get you on Branson's Rocket I can't be expected to by y'all a map as well  ;D

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 04, 2013, 09:30:09 AM »
Cool, so what we've learnt is that it's entirely possible to map the Earth via crowd funding a correctly drawn up contract and by paying in stages like, i dunno, a continent at a time.

Thanks for helping

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 04, 2013, 04:31:40 AM »
Now back to original point before. Is it the FES's intention to, at some point, to have the Earth correctly mapped?

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 04, 2013, 04:19:58 AM »


1 So your builder fronted the capital to purchase the materials for whatever reason. 2 The result is the same, the money came from somewhere before you paid it back.  In your case, you made a contract to pay for a goods and services with money you already had, or obtained a loan for.  3 You are suggesting a cartography company fronts an untold amount of money without any assurance the money will be paid back when at the time a contract is executed.  Other than a promise that money will come eventually.  If you can't see the difference, there isn't much more I can do to help you.

1) Yes, see my lesson on contracts. And learn about cash flow and credit lines. Can i ask why you think it's unreasonable to pay for work on completion but reasonable to pay up front, thus losing control of the project?

2) Paid what money back to whom?

3) The contract is the assurance.

Are you for real?

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 03, 2013, 02:26:53 PM »
Recently I employed a builder to build an extension on my home. I say extension but it was more like a whole new house. Interestingly he didn't require me to provide a business plan. He just provided me a quote and did the job. I then paid. All in all it was a very very odd experience. On a similar but far less expensive note I bought a sandwich today and, again, was not required to provide a business plan for my purchase.

Please see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

I also believe that you are a liar.  Building a whole new house would likely be a month or two undertaking.  Unless the builder had incredible trust in you, or had so much money it didn't matter, you would have paid several invoices throughout the duration.  Regardless, it is still a false equivalence.  It would not require a business plan for something such as this, but you would have to show an ability to pay.  Again, unless your builder trusted you that much, didn't care, or was a moron.

You're right, i am liar. I didn't buy a sandwich today.
I don't see the point of you telling me how long it would take a build an extension on my home, when i lived it. It took 9 weeks and 4 days. What's your point?
 
Do you know what a contract is? Basically it allows people to get on with life without wasting each others time become best friends before doing anything for them. So Joe Builder says " i will build this lovely extension to your already lovely home for 87,000 and i will have it done by 9 weeks hence. Signed Jo Builder " I then sign next to the bit that says my name to say that i agree. Now, there can be caveats about it taking longer and such like. You're confusing the use of sub contractors like electricians and plumbers who will need paying when they work, but this is by the by.

Like i said earlier i think you're confusing asking someone to create a correct map of the Earth with starting some sort of Flat Earth Inc. and asking people to invest in it for who knows what reason.



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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 03, 2013, 01:58:21 PM »
Recently I employed a builder to build an extension on my home. I say extension but it was more like a whole new house. Interestingly he didn't require me to provide a business plan. He just provided me a quote and did the job. I then paid. All in all it was a very very odd experience. On a similar but far less expensive note I bought a sandwich today and, again, was not required to provide a business plan for my purchase.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 03, 2013, 10:54:38 AM »

You can paypal your donations for a FES World-Wide Exploratory Voyage to tom.bishop.enterprises@gmail.com.

Tom you sly old dog. I apologise for my earlier comments. All along you've just been biding your time until you yourself use your cartographic skills to draw the correct flat earth map.....The Bishop Map.

I am more than willing to get on at the ground floor with this and to send you cash money via paypal.

thank you, Tom


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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 03, 2013, 08:36:20 AM »
A simple question. Without a correctly mapped Earth how can you ever expect anyone to know the truth? Because, and i don't want to hurt anyones feelings, this website aint doing it.  :-\
Yes it is, how dare you insult this fine society?

Well it's not because it's my understanding that an overwhelming majority of the Earths inhabitants believe the Earth to be round, and, after 213 years, that isn't much progress.

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The Lounge / Re: The great PizzaPlanet round-the-world trip of 2013
« on: August 03, 2013, 08:15:58 AM »
looks like lovely weather, not a cloud in the blue sky behind you !

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 03, 2013, 08:14:56 AM »
A simple question. Without a correctly mapped Earth how can you ever expect anyone to know the truth? Because, and i don't want to hurt anyones feelings, this website aint doing it.  :-\


And Tom, cynically posting old maps as if to prove a point actually makes the FES lack of a map even more shocking. Whomever created this map and whatever reason they did, as inaccurate as it may be, at least they have a crack at it. At least they didn't sit around laughing at others and did something about it.  To paraphrase a very wise man "you guys aren't failures because you didn't succeed, you're failures because you didn't try" Kev from Derek

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 02, 2013, 11:22:09 AM »


In general, it is unreasonable.  I was merely saying it was reasonable compared to the insanely unreasonable request previously put forth.

from a man who is convinced the earth is flat based on the findings of a woman standing in a canal

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 02, 2013, 11:19:53 AM »
Ok so let's do it your way.

The world will always be flat so it actually doesn't matter when the map gets made. Why don't you guys start saving up in some sort of trust? Then in 10 20 30 years you can get the map made?

This is a much more reasonable plan.  I have no idea if it will ever happen.

I don't think it's reasonable at all. I doubt there's a cartography shop in the world that could make a map without GPS or sextants. Also, I re-iterate that monetization of the results is highly unlikely.

Point 1 ain't my problem so i don't know about that.
Point 2 Every single map etc.. is wrong and will need to be updated the FES owns the copyright on the original. Aside from that the appearance fees for Leno etc.. would oil the cogs nicely

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 02, 2013, 11:08:36 AM »
Ok so let's do it your way.

The world will always be flat so it actually doesn't matter when the map gets made. Why don't you guys start saving up in some sort of trust? Then in 10 20 30 years you can get the map made?

This is a much more reasonable plan.  I have no idea if it will ever happen.

Well that's an afternoon we'll never get back  :P

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 02, 2013, 10:57:40 AM »
It is simple. Find a cartographer, ask him to correctly map the earth pay him from wealth gained from changing everything everyone has ever known. Kick back and relax

How long would it take a single cartographer to do this?  Is he or she supposed to work for free until the job is done?  It really isn't that simple, and you know it.

You know how the world of business works don't you know? You get some quotes for the job, employ a firm then when they deliver you pay.  It's like when you go to work and they pay you at the end of the month/week, they don't pay you every monday or before you've worked do they?

As a matter of fact, I do know how the world of business works.  However, it is clear that you do not.  To undertake a project such as this requires capital.  You have to have money up front, period.  It is nothing like getting paid on a regular basis from a 9-5 job.  You have to secure capital before you can do anything.  To secure capital funding, you need investors.  To get investors, you have to present a business plan with a clear ROI.  Saying that you will make a million dollars on a Nobel prize sometime in the future is not a business plan.  The project would have capital expenses up front, and operating expenses over the duration of the project.  If you want me to explain more to you how actual business projects work, let me know, I would be happy to.

I'm sorry but i think you're confusing the creation of some sort of Flat Earth Inc. with going to a cartography shop and asking them to provide you with a map. Whyever do you think you'd need a business plan and capital to employ someones services?

Do you understand the scope of a project such as this?  No one is going to do this much work with nothing more than a promise of eventually being paid, especially when there is no clear source of revenue.  You have to have capital, period.  If you don't understand that, then there isn't much more to talk about.

Ok so let's do it your way.

The world will always be flat so it actually doesn't matter when the map gets made. Why don't you guys start saving up in some sort of trust? Then in 10 20 30 years you can get the map made?

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 02, 2013, 10:26:27 AM »
It is simple. Find a cartographer, ask him to correctly map the earth pay him from wealth gained from changing everything everyone has ever known. Kick back and relax

How long would it take a single cartographer to do this?  Is he or she supposed to work for free until the job is done?  It really isn't that simple, and you know it.

You know how the world of business works don't you know? You get some quotes for the job, employ a firm then when they deliver you pay.  It's like when you go to work and they pay you at the end of the month/week, they don't pay you every monday or before you've worked do they?

As a matter of fact, I do know how the world of business works.  However, it is clear that you do not.  To undertake a project such as this requires capital.  You have to have money up front, period.  It is nothing like getting paid on a regular basis from a 9-5 job.  You have to secure capital before you can do anything.  To secure capital funding, you need investors.  To get investors, you have to present a business plan with a clear ROI.  Saying that you will make a million dollars on a Nobel prize sometime in the future is not a business plan.  The project would have capital expenses up front, and operating expenses over the duration of the project.  If you want me to explain more to you how actual business projects work, let me know, I would be happy to.

I'm sorry but i think you're confusing the creation of some sort of Flat Earth Inc. with going to a cartography shop and asking them to provide you with a map. Whyever do you think you'd need a business plan and capital to employ someones services?


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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 02, 2013, 09:53:44 AM »
Also, it seemed to be "simple" enough for you guys to conclude it's not round so why is it so hard to prove?

The proof is there, but centuries of indoctrination will not allow the unenlightened to let go of their misguided mindset.

Hence why you need a map drawn up all nice and proper by a team off cartographers. They're not going to say no, you're going to have to pay them but, like i say, once you've proved the earth is flat then money isn't going to be an issue.

I don't see why you think this would be the case.


Hmmmm i beginning to see what the problem may be here. Let me help you out a bit. You'd own the copyright to the correct map of the Earth.

Hmmmm ! If you owned the copyright ! Just think of the royalties and payments you would get from Rand McNally for permission for them to reproduce and print your map in large quantities !

Forget that. What about Boeing, NASA (behave) etc...

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 02, 2013, 09:40:52 AM »
Also, it seemed to be "simple" enough for you guys to conclude it's not round so why is it so hard to prove?

The proof is there, but centuries of indoctrination will not allow the unenlightened to let go of their misguided mindset.

Hence why you need a map drawn up all nice and proper by a team off cartographers. They're not going to say no, you're going to have to pay them but, like i say, once you've proved the earth is flat then money isn't going to be an issue.

I don't see why you think this would be the case.


Hmmmm i beginning to see what the problem may be here. Let me help you out a bit. You'd own the copyright to the correct map of the Earth.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 02, 2013, 07:58:54 AM »
Also, it seemed to be "simple" enough for you guys to conclude it's not round so why is it so hard to prove?

The proof is there, but centuries of indoctrination will not allow the unenlightened to let go of their misguided mindset.

Hence why you need a map drawn up all nice and proper by a team off cartographers. They're not going to say no, you're going to have to pay them but, like i say, once you've proved the earth is flat then money isn't going to be an issue.

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 02, 2013, 07:26:30 AM »
It is simple. Find a cartographer, ask him to correctly map the earth pay him from wealth gained from changing everything everyone has ever known. Kick back and relax

How long would it take a single cartographer to do this?  Is he or she supposed to work for free until the job is done?  It really isn't that simple, and you know it.

The Earth's flat it's been flat since the beginning of time and will be flat forever, right? So it doesn't matter how long it takes. Surely after all these years and years of study* you guys can make a pretty solid case to employ a team ;) of cartographers. It's not working for free? You know how the world of business works don't you know? You get some quotes for the job, employ a firm then when they deliver you pay.  It's like when you go to work and they pay you at the end of the month/week, they don't pay you every monday or before you've worked do they?


*perhaps take Bullhorns years of studies??



EDIT - Also, it seemed to be "simple" enough for you guys to conclude it's not round so why is it so hard to prove?

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Flat Earth General / Re: The FE map
« on: August 02, 2013, 06:13:03 AM »
It is simple. Find a cartographer, ask him to correctly map the earth pay him from wealth gained from changing everything everyone has ever known. Kick back and relax

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The Lounge / Re: The great PizzaPlanet round-the-world trip of 2013
« on: August 02, 2013, 03:52:41 AM »
Omg, I forgot about lego hair

You want it too

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The Lounge / Re: The great PizzaPlanet round-the-world trip of 2013
« on: August 02, 2013, 03:43:38 AM »
Ahhhh the lego haired one has gone on his jollys. TBH the first leg sounds like sex tourism veiled in a road trip. Now post a picture of that little lego haired head or i'll steal your washing

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Flat Earth General / The FE map
« on: August 02, 2013, 03:29:50 AM »
Hello everybody

 Some 4 years ago i queried why the FES hasn't contacted a cartographer to draw up a correct map of the Earth. I was informed by a few of your members that it was a task in hand, being as i was around during the hoodie fiasco i didn't hold out much hope. However, i did wonder if your esteemed members had given any further thought to taking the matter forward?

With kind regards

Monkeybradders

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The Lounge / Re: Hello, again
« on: November 15, 2012, 04:36:07 PM »
black?

and prepared to suffer for our cause

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The Lounge / Re: Hello, again
« on: November 15, 2012, 04:31:46 PM »
I remember you. You got me banned over bet with Wilmore and Ichi, only Wilmore couldn't be banned as an admin so he welched on it.

To me, you're like Nelson Mandela

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The Lounge / Re: Hello, again
« on: November 15, 2012, 04:28:05 PM »
I remember you. How was your trip to the Ice Wall?

It was like totes amazeballs! It was really nice to just relax and find myself. Penguin meat tastes like chicken

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