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Flat Earth General / Re: ISS altitude measured
« on: March 08, 2018, 03:28:20 PM »
C'mon dutchy, you should be able to do better than that.
Post a video and just make an offhand comment about a transparent ISS.
If you actually saw a frame where you could see through the ISS why wouldn't you just post a screen shot?

Then you post another vid and simply point out a glitch you noticed.
Oooh you spot something that you think shouldn't be there.
Pointing out glitches in vid's is going to get harder and harder as technology gets better.

Course you can always go back to the FE standard of:
"It's all fake, you're all sheeple."

Just an FYI:
Dooped is spelt duped.
Amature is spelt amateur.

And a prediction:
Since infrared cameras are becoming much more affordable, you are soon going to be flooded with pictures of the moon being heated by the sun.  Just another thing you'll have to figure out an answer to.
I mean besides the "It's fake etc." 

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Flat Earth General / Re: ISS altitude measured
« on: March 07, 2018, 03:27:44 PM »
So did anyone watch the video?
Was their execution of the experiment valid?
Was the math that they used appropriate to the data collected.

The math made sense to me but was it applied properly?

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Flat Earth General / Re: ISS altitude measured
« on: March 06, 2018, 04:18:12 PM »
I watched a couple of Red's Rhetoric video's to hear some arguments against flatearth.
But his aggressive style ..and more so ..his comments below his own video's reveals an extremely unpleasant person who clearly wasn't around when humor was handed out.
So i'll pass this time....no more ''Red's Rhetoric'' for me.

Ps i also avoid Eric Dubay video's after his very first sickening display of antisemitism and positive attitude towards Adolf Hitler.
And there are also insane ''flatearthers '' out there that are clearly have some twisted motives.

But again ...Red's Rhetoric is to much to swallow for anyone ...i hope..

I do not like Reds' technique either.
He seems to delight in putting people down.
Also agree with your take on Dubay.

Anyway, the video is worth watching.
Just to see the ISS going across the face of the moon.
It's not a hologram, it's not an airplane.
It is what they call it,
The International Space Station.

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Flat Earth General / Re: ISS altitude measured
« on: March 06, 2018, 04:12:33 PM »
I'm not going to watch that video without more information first. Could you summarize it?

Guy measures altitude of the ISS

How does he do it, at least in general? Also, how long is the video?

I'm with EvolvedMantisShrimp on this. "Watch this!" isn't a very compelling reason to watch a youtube video of unknown length.

From the still, it looks like a telescope with an electronic mount might be involved. Does he try several methods?

Holy, holy, holy.
If you had simply clicked on the vid you would have your answers.
The video is just over 14 minutes.

They use 2 cameras separated by a little more than a KM (mile?)
Then they compare the 2 tracks of the ISS going across the moon.

Then some math comes in to figure out angles and such.
Watch the video, you can shut it off at any time.

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Flat Earth General / ISS altitude measured
« on: March 06, 2018, 02:08:41 PM »
Here is a link to Red's Rhetoric and how he measured the altitude of the ISS.


That is cool.

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Hi, I am currently researching the flat earth theorem and I have found a problem that makes no sense being How do summer and winter solstice occur? This just doesn't makes sense with a flat earth so could someone please explain it to me, till then I remain a believer of the round earth theorem.
Hi.

Please remain a believer in the round earth theorem and exit the board.

lackey's answer is basically, we can't explain it, go away.
He's just to shy to say it.

Generally the FE crowd accepts 24 hr daylight at the north pole,
But 24 hour daylight at the south pole is not and can't be proven.

I agree, you can't build a flat earth model that has 24 hr daylight at the south pole.
On a sphere however, it does work.  Draw your own conclusion.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Take a look at this fake crapola...
« on: February 18, 2018, 02:56:32 PM »
How do you know that it is fake I'd say that it is real.
You believe the picture reflects a portion of an arc consistent with a sphere having a radius of just over 3900 miles!?!

LMMFAO!

Just curious,
What does LMMFAO mean?

I am familiar with LMFAO, laughing my f'ing ass off.
Are you saying laughing my my f'ing ass off?

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Flat Earth General / Re: The Earth is flat ... ish?
« on: February 14, 2018, 03:27:19 PM »
[snipped irrelevance]
Having a spot of bother with reading comprehension? Jumping in with stock responses, regardless of what the question is?

Maybe go back and read the one-syllable word version.

Oh my, you have cut me to the quick!
How shall I ever recover?

Your first point was that attempting to prove curvature in a localized area etc.
My response was why do ships disappear over if not the horizon?
Terrible typing mistake should have been:
Why do ships disappear if not over the horizon?

Your next point was that multiple points should be used etc.
My response was So, kinda like cell towers.

Your final point was why is this proof so ubiquitous.
My response was simply that if a ship disappears as it sails away
Eventually you can't see it even with the biggest telescope.  Why?

And of course you don't offer an answer.
Just platitudes and bullshit.
Typical.


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Flat Earth General / Re: What made you believe the FE Theory?
« on: February 13, 2018, 05:19:51 PM »
I am not a FE, but I have spent a lot of time
Posting and reading on this site
Plus looking at youtube videos and interviews.

Most times it is hard to get a real answer as to the base reason for FE belief.
IMO it mostly boils down to wanting to be significant.

If we believe we are on a little planet,
Orbiting a regular star, in an unspectacular solar system,
Which orbits in an arm of a galaxy that isn't anything special,
We aren't very significant in the grandeur of the universe.

Some people do not like this.
Instead of appreciating the beauty of our little world,
They insist we are more important than we are.

The sun and moon circle us.
The stars are embedded in the dome or something like that.
All space flights are fake, cause if they were real it would prove our insignificance.

And then there is the god angle.
God looks after us and we are special.
There is no giant universe, we are the centre of our god's world.
And we are back to being significant.

Just my opinion...





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Flat Earth General / Re: The Earth is flat ... ish?
« on: February 13, 2018, 04:51:13 PM »
In trying to determine earth curvature / non-curvature by means of looking at objects at distance over water (ship masts, Chicago skyline, bridge supports, etc.) all that is being done, or not done, is looking at the geometry in a very small localized area. A proof of curvature or non-curvature over an infinitessimal fraction of the earth does not prove or disprove a globe or non-globe.

Then why do ships disappear over if not the horizon?

A proof would be to measure amount and direction of localized curvature at one location and proceed with a network of bootstrapped subsequent points until a full globe or shown or not shown. Cherry-picking a tiny handful of points is insufficient.

So, pretty much like cell phone towers.

So why is this attempted "proof" so ubiquitous? Why try to prove a thing that does not -- cannot -- lead to a proof of the big picture?

If a ship goes far enough away you can't see it.
Even with the biggest telescope, the ship can not be seen.
Why?

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Flat Earth General / Re: FETīs i challange you to a test of wits
« on: February 11, 2018, 04:17:58 PM »
It still looks flat out my window.
You have not disproved my assertion.
Well but i explained to you why this is just an impression you have, that does not make the world flat.
If i hold my hand in front of the sun it looks bigger then the sun that does not mean it is.
You posited a bunch of numbers.
Who is to say these numbers are correct?
Your numbers are taken from the spherical model.
That's like using a quote from the bible to prove the bible is right.

How about this?
I go up in a balloon real high, say in the middle of the Pacific.
No land in sight, and I look at the horizon and slowly turn.

As I turn, the horizon eventually comes back to where I started.
If there was a curvature, then how does the horizon meet up where I started?

Back to you.
I used the numbers because they are from the model that can explain everything we can see in our daily life while the FE models is to be proven and so has to be compared to the exsiting model

But how do you determin that the horizon always meets your eye level, the higher you go the further the horizon goes away from where you are standing but the viewing angle to the horizon gets only slightly larger and stays very,very low. You can calculate that if you are 30m up the ground it will be 0.17 Degree. If you are 300m up it will be 0.56 Degree and on 3000m it will be 1.7 Degrees and even if you go up to 12000m the horizon dip angle will be 3.5 degrees.
Its just to small to detect without a precise meassuring device. How do you know you are not tipping your head up or down 0.56 degrees while turning around?

I never said anything about the horizon rising to eye level.
And again you start throwing numbers around.

Simple question, you rise up in a balloon,
You spin around and the horizon meets up where you started from.
Where is the curvature?
I think you are trying to confuse me with numbers instead of answering.

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There is not the slightest doubt that objects unimpeded by other forces accelerate downwards at about 9.8 m/s2

Unless that object is a silly fake satellite, in which case you claim it is sitting on a table.

Because you are mental.

I'll admit, I don't know how fake satellites work.
The real ones however, are continually falling.
Their speed carries them over the curvature and they just keep falling.
A little slower and they would crash to earth.
A little faster they would leave the earth.


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Flat Earth General / Re: FETīs i challange you to a test of wits
« on: February 11, 2018, 03:47:29 PM »
It still looks flat out my window.
You have not disproved my assertion.
Well but i explained to you why this is just an impression you have, that does not make the world flat.
If i hold my hand in front of the sun it looks bigger then the sun that does not mean it is.
You posited a bunch of numbers.
Who is to say these numbers are correct?
Your numbers are taken from the spherical model.
That's like using a quote from the bible to prove the bible is right.

How about this?
I go up in a balloon real high, say in the middle of the Pacific.
No land in sight, and I look at the horizon and slowly turn.

As I turn, the horizon eventually comes back to where I started.
If there was a curvature, then how does the horizon meet up where I started?

Back to you.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Satellite signals
« on: February 11, 2018, 03:33:19 PM »
I can get Australian satellite in New Zealand, but not from Europe. How can that be if according to the fe map, Europe is nearer.

What are you trying to accomplish?
You must realize how foolish your statements are.

How could Europe be closer to you than Australia?
Have you seen any map, round or flat?

Please think a bit before posting again.
Or, maybe post the map you are referring to.

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Flat Earth General / Re: FETīs i challange you to a test of wits
« on: February 11, 2018, 03:20:45 PM »
It still looks flat out my window.
You have not disproved my assertion.

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Flat Earth General / Re: FETīs i challange you to a test of wits
« on: February 11, 2018, 03:08:42 PM »
Nice to meet you gotham, finally someone who is able to communicate like an adult
I will check that out thank you very much even tho i have to inform you that this īī testīī happens due to my scientifc interest on peoples thought on highly debatet topics and not so much out of real interst on the Flat Earth Theory. I hope you understand
Best Regards E101

One side note is I hope you're aware that Einstein is known to have quoted, in his observation of Earth shape, that it may be flat.  Yes, there are reasons to respect his astute observations. 

Look into the process of Zetetic gained knowledge to follow up on how he arrived at that conclusion.     

Could you direct me to this Einstein quote regarding the shape of the earth?
This could win me a $20.00 bet.  Fingers crossed :)

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Flat Earth General / Re: FETīs i challange you to a test of wits
« on: February 11, 2018, 03:02:59 PM »
But who said that Einstein is one of my heros for his theory of relativity, he has achieved far more then that and he was probably one of the most genius persons to ever walk this planet. Why wouldnt i admire him?

Nothing speaks against making your own experiences but that does not mean you have to ignore the past or cant look up to the people who helped build the world as we know it today. That would be very foolish if you ask me!

Have you ever heard the quote: He who doesnt know history is doomed to repeat it
           

I believe the original quote was "Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it".
But that's splitting hairs.  Your hero is Einstein but you chose to ignore the Einstein quote I ended a post with.
Or maybe you didn't realize it was an Einstein quote.

Anyway, back to your challenge.
If I look out the window it looks as flat as flat can be.
Prove me wrong.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Sailing from New Zealand to Argentina
« on: February 11, 2018, 02:42:09 PM »
Ok, I can sail from New Zealand to Argentina. It is approx 5800 miles. How does that work on the flat earth map?
Please don't tell me the ship used jet streams.

If you could fly direct from New Zealand to Argentina, the distance would be about 5,800 miles.
Don't think you can sail there in that distance, cause Chile is in the way.
What were you trying to accomplish with BS?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Sailing from New Zealand to Argentina
« on: February 11, 2018, 02:27:14 PM »
It’s ok to ignore his stupid map. Everyone else does.


Only idiots do. This is a type of flat earth map that you can measure distances basicly. Here everybody is not idiot, oppositely you. If you are sincere the shape of the earth, go do bet.

What map are you guys talking about?
All I saw was a grid with a bunch of dots with names.
I could be wrong but I don't think this constitutes a map.

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We have great news.

Globists are talking about Santiago for a long time. They claim they travel to antiago from Perth and Sydney. And when we say "there is nobody go there, or there is nobody came from there", so they say "so why doesn't anybody appeal it". It is meaningless. But we know that media is on the hand of globist liars, so such as news can't find a place on the media. But we can understand if Santiago people are thinking they can go to Sydney with one flight or not, by looking the statistics.

If the earth was round, no one of the Santiago people interest the flat earth theory. Because they could know that the earth is round, so they travel to Sydney. But they know that there is no fly to Sydney, and claims to travel to Sydney is a lie, so that they are believing the earth is flat!

This is the trend shows the interest the flat earth in whole Chile.



You may control it in this link. It was valid today. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=CL&q=flat%20earth,nasa

As we see that, the interest to Flat Earth at the maximum level in Santiago compared the whole Chile. In other say, we can clearly say that globist lie about Santiago caused Santiago people to be awaken!

So that, I'm saying that "Hurra Santiago! We love Chile!".

Bro, are you saying that because a bunch of people in Santiago googled flat earth,
This is evidence of a flat earth?

Are you serious?
If so, this makes you sound quite foolish.
If this is not what you intended I apologize.


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Flat Earth General / Re: FETīs i challange you to a test of wits
« on: February 11, 2018, 01:59:14 PM »
So here is the thing, recently i did read a lot of things about the flat earth etc. etc. and since i study
psychology, im very fascinated about the Idea of People actually
believing this Theory. So i thought why not put them to the Test?
It will be rather Simple if the Earth rly is Flat you need to have proof right?
So i challange everyone who reads this to show or tell me of evidence that I can not debunk if you manage i will post a Video of the next essay i have to make for University and the Topic will be: The Flat Earth and how I changed my Mind about the Subject.

I'd be fascinated to hear your explanation for what words you decide to capitalize.
You don't capitalize "I" when referring to yourself, which should be capitalized.
And then you capitalize random words throughout your spiel that don't require it.

Also, posting a video of an essay?
Are you going to post a video of your transcript?
Are you going to post a video of you typing your essay?

I'm going to assume you're a troll.
Especially choosing to call yourself Einstein.
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.

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Flat Earth General / Simple proof of a sphere
« on: February 10, 2018, 05:14:00 PM »
So, last week I was driving along around 8:00 AM
I noticed the quarter moon above me.
I knew the sunrise was in 45 minutes or so.
I pulled over to watch.

It was dark, but the moon was lit up.
I know the sun is shining on the moon.
But I can't see the sun, why?
Even with binoculars, no sun.

As the earth rotates, the darkness departs and light replaces.
Finally the sun starts to show itself.
I can see the sun shining, and the moon reflecting,
They are both visible in the sky.

And as I looked, I thought to myself.
This is so cool, nobody looking at this can say
The earth is not a sphere.





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Flat Earth General / Re: uh oh. another nail. sorry guys.
« on: February 10, 2018, 04:23:42 PM »
Also dutchy, your photo of a plane creating a Sonic boom may well be simply showing transonic effects, which occur as a plane approaches, rather than breaks, the speed of sound, and are dependent on atmospheric pressure, humidity, etc.

This is a very good intro to transonic flight:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=10s&v=bELu-if5ckU

As you will see, it is a very interesting and complex subject.

If you understand the basic principles though, you will never believe a single NASA fairytale again.

P.s. the rabbibot tried to grab top spot on this page but I thwarted him again by posting then deleting then reposting.

The bots don't want you to watch the video I posted.

kek

Aha ha ha ha ha!
I snuck past the bots and watched the video.
I find you hilarious papa.
Don't ever change.

And I find that you sound exactly like every other AI algorithm here...

Coincidence?

No, you are all clearly the same program.

https://medium.com/artificial-intelligence-policy-laws-and-ethics/artificial-intelligence-chatbots-will-overwhelm-human-speech-online-the-rise-of-madcoms-e007818f31a1

Have you just stopped caring if everyone knows you exist, or what?

Now you have me confused,
First I am an AI algorithm,
Then you ask if I care if everyone knows I exist.

It does not compute
Compute it does not
Not compute it does
Does not it compute

Ack, ack, ack
papa has forsaken me again.
Do


It not compute does

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I just reject the theory of gravity because I cannot see it, test it, feel it, hear it, or taste it.

It is a fictitious force that was invented to create the spinning ball model.

Simply dropping a pencil or microphone and claiming "gravity did it", is not enough evidence.

Gravity has been tested over and over.
In a near vacuum a feather drops at the same rate as a cannon ball, why?
Gravity is real, and yet you say it isn't.

But you say that centrifugal force is a proven force.
But it isn't, centrifugal force is defined as an apparent force.

Think of it this way.
You are driving down a highway and your buddy is in the passenger seat.
He is starting to doze off, head slowly coming to rest on his chest.

At the appropriate moment you sharply pull into the left hand lane.
Your buddy's head smacks against the window and you laugh.

Was it the centrifugal force that pushed his head into the window?
Nope. It was his inertia.  He wanted to keep going in a straight line as the car turned.
The centripetal force supplied by the window (and door) kept him in the car.

Look it up.  Don't pretend to know science and then draw a ball
And say water should fly off a spinning ball and people should fall off the bottom.

Number one, on a spherical earth there is no bottom or top.
We are all, Canada or Australia, kept on earth by gravity
And gravity is stronger than the inertia of an object created by the earth spinning.



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Flat Earth General / Re: uh oh. another nail. sorry guys.
« on: February 10, 2018, 03:31:28 PM »
Also dutchy, your photo of a plane creating a Sonic boom may well be simply showing transonic effects, which occur as a plane approaches, rather than breaks, the speed of sound, and are dependent on atmospheric pressure, humidity, etc.

This is a very good intro to transonic flight:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=10s&v=bELu-if5ckU

As you will see, it is a very interesting and complex subject.

If you understand the basic principles though, you will never believe a single NASA fairytale again.

P.s. the rabbibot tried to grab top spot on this page but I thwarted him again by posting then deleting then reposting.

The bots don't want you to watch the video I posted.

kek

Aha ha ha ha ha!
I snuck past the bots and watched the video.
I find you hilarious papa.
Don't ever change.


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Flat Earth General / Re: Seasons change, but why?
« on: February 08, 2018, 04:48:52 PM »
Can someone explain or point me to an explanation of how the seasons change in the FE model. Also, I'm curious about why the sun and moon aren't visible 24/7 if the earth is flat. How about tides, both normal everyday tides and tides that vary with the proximity of the moon. Unless maybe you guys have some other explanation for tides that isn't attributed to the moon?

OK, it's been a day since you posted and no FE response.
To be fair though, you started with two real hard things for FE to explain.

The seasons? Other than a god, as far as I know they have nothing to explain it.
The sun and moon can't be seen all the time because of perspective, parallax and vanishing point.
Also the magic spotlight, depends on who answers, and none of these actually make sense.

The tides are another tough one cause FE does not believe in gravity.
The insanity just goes on and on.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Is only Earth flat?
« on: February 08, 2018, 04:20:23 PM »
Or the flat earth is constantly accelerating upwards because gravity doesn't exist.
Stars and planets are simply lights on a dome or in the aether.

Some believe in a dual earth.
Some believe it's just all done by a god.
Some believe the moon is self illuminating.
I apologize to the ones I'm leaving out.

All FE'rs say rockets and satellites are fake.
Rockets and satellites are simply impossible.




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Flat Earth General / Re: Is only Earth flat?
« on: February 08, 2018, 04:03:07 PM »
... to help me understand the FE point of view.
There is no FE point of view other than "the Earth is flat."

Yes, its so frustrating that none of their opinions go beyond "I'm right, you're wrong, shut up" whenever anyone asks an intelligent question.  Another behavioral trait I've noticed, FE supporters written speech skills seem to be sub-par.  Grammar, spelling, general coherence, it seems to be lost on them.

I really would just like an answer as to why they believe these things that are so obviously counter to know scientific principles.

You mean like your crappy grammar? If you are going to hang shit on other peoples grammar perhaps you could go over your own post that hangs shit on other peoples grammar and make sure it's up to par. How embarrassing for you

I think Shifter might be pregnant,
Definitely missed a period in the above post...

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Flat Earth General / Re: Is only Earth flat?
« on: February 08, 2018, 03:58:58 PM »
Dual Jupiter Theory

Or maybe the cloud cover works like a conveyor belt.

Dual Jupiter or a conveyor belt.
In other words you haven't got a clue, you are guessing.
OK, I'll just accept that you can't really explain the red spot on Jupiter.

Let's try something else.
Back to the telescope, point it at a full moon.

In the centre of the moon the craters are all circular.
As your vision moves to the outer edges of the moon,
The craters become noticeably more oval shaped.

Also the centre craters don't have shadows.
The ones near the edge do have shadows.
What's your best guess on these points?


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Flat Earth General / Re: Some beginner questions
« on: February 08, 2018, 03:42:16 PM »
Hello Guys,
I am new to this forum and I have a Questions.

Why should the government give us false information? ???

This is a real question I don't want to write any shit  ;)

Do you believe that the government never lies?

jroa, your mama should have taught you that it's rude to answer a question with a question.

As to the OP, some FEs think the gov't lies to make people turn away from god.
Others say it's to control the population.

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