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Flat Earth Believers / Re: Favorite Youtube Flat Earthers
« on: March 19, 2018, 09:50:22 PM »
I like this guys channel on youtube, "conspiracy music guru"

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnle0nUC3Fx0lkchpmZy0Lw

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Arts & Entertainment / Round Earth Theme Song
« on: October 28, 2016, 07:35:33 PM »


The Beach Boys, "I Get Around" 

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Round Earth Illusion vs Flat Earth Reality
« on: October 28, 2016, 07:27:55 PM »
<< I show photos (taken by a Flat Earther) showing the sun staying the same size during the day >>
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like 40 against 1 here, so I'm doing my best (considering the pay! ha ha).  I'm gonna need a minute to figure out what you're talking about, because it looks like you might have actually made a point (which is kind of new for you, so don't get used to it! ha ha)
I guess your pay for posting here is no more than mine (zilch). You claim you can't figure out what I am talking about. see below!

Well, for about the third time - the angular size of the sun stays constant throughout the day proving that the sun must be many times further away than to radius of the earth - 6,371 km for the globe and about 10,000 km for the earth.

And if you haven't worked it out yet - that completely screws your idea of a nearby sun.

By the way, have you managed to work out the earth's curvature yet? If not ask your kindergarten teacher, they might be able to explain it!

Less caffeine

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Well, maybe you could.  hmmm 

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But I still don't think you could hold on. 

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I'd like to see you hang on to that bike if it started rotating, on its "axis" at 100 mph, let alone 1000!
when that rotation also happens to rotate only once every 24 hours would it really be that hard?

How quickly does that rotation occur at the north pole?
Still once every 24 hours, and at a far slower speed.

Yeah, I guess you're right

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Ha. You know, if you keep going, you'll eventually make it to the exact opposite end of the earth, the means that the earth must always be a straight vertical drop.

First of all, I think I can help you with that signature! lol

Secondly, You might just be going around a circle on a flat plane. 


Nope.  Because then the Sun would always be rising in the North East.  That doesn't happen in the real world.

The orbit of the sun changes on a flat earth model too.
Yes, but if you actually look at where it would be at sunrise it would always be in the North East.  doesn't happen in the real world.

Are you talking about that picture or flat earth in general, because most fe'ers, as i understand it, think that the sun's circuit varies throughout the year, hence the changing seasons and length of days.  So, its rising and setting would change.
AGAIN, yes.  But for the majority of people, whether the Sun is on its northern or southern path it would still rise North East.  In the real world it rises due East for EVERYONE on the equinoxes and South East for half the year.  Can't happen on flat Earth.

I don't know why you think that, but I don't see that problem. 

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Flat Earth General / Re: Real or Fake?
« on: October 28, 2016, 07:19:18 PM »
Seriously tho.
http://math.rice.edu/~pcmi/sphere/

Edit for fliggs.
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Notice that we are talking about the surface of a ball, and not the ball itself.

Lol.

Surface of ball... right... what? 

A bug can crawl across the top of a beach ball, but they often have difficulty not falling off the sides, let alone the bottom of the ball!  The relative uniformity of curve doesn't seem to matter. 


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Flying motorcycle man  ;D

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I'd like to see you hang on to that bike if it started rotating, on its "axis" at 100 mph, let alone 1000!
when that rotation also happens to rotate only once every 24 hours would it really be that hard?

How quickly does that rotation occur at the north pole? 

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I'd like to see you hang on to that bike if it started rotating, on its "axis" at 100 mph, let alone 1000! 

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Now if gravity were powerful enough to keep something like the pacific ocean, which has 187 quintillion gallons of water in it (gallon of water weighs over 8lbs), while the earth spins at over one thousand miles per hour and rockets around the sun at over sixty thousand miles per hour

Inertial FoR, yesterday on the way home I hit 280 kph on my bike (I like to feel alive sometimes.) How could I possibly stay on my bike travelling at 280 kph?? Do you see the logical fallacy?

The ocean is also strongly affected by gravity because (as you stated) it's incredible mass.

Also as Frenat pointed out RE science and math predicts negligible rotational acceleration (centrifugal force) due to the earths size, do the math if you are skeptical.

That phrase, "do the math" sounds kind of silly or made up to me.  You know, if I don't accept the premise (gravity) then why would I accept "the math," as  if it had some authority. 

I don't think oceans have handlebars and isn't 60k mph, w/a 1k spin a little bit faster than what you're talking about

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Round Earth Illusion vs Flat Earth Reality
« on: October 28, 2016, 06:55:00 PM »
The sun is an actual object, around .5 degrees wide. It stays about that size the entire day.

I think, it appears smaller/bigger at times.  I don't think it is always the same size, but I now that you mention it, I doubt it is as noticeable as telephone poles are.  Although, the point to this thread is that the sun appears to meet the ground, for the same reason that the tops of high voltage towers appear to meet the ground or clouds, or jet planes or persistent jet trails do.  In other words, it isn't because you're seeing over the edge of the earth (remember that huge drop that is supposed to be occurring) it is because of an optical illusion, illustrated by the photograph in the first post of this thread.

Get over it, over the course of a day the sun stays almost precisely the same size. Very near the horizon just after sunrise and just before sunset it might be a bit distorted.

Take a look at these photos, taken I might add by a Flat Earther trying to prove that the sun does change in size over the course of a day.
Now on Youtube there is a video made by a the Flat Earther, Matrix Decode with very good photos of the sun through a filter (an arc welder's glass) showing the sun at a number of times of day from 9:30 AM to 7:00 PM on 9/March/2016 in Malaga, Spain.

The following screen shots from his video does an excellent job of proving that the sun size does not change!
         
       


Do I need to say more? Our kind Flat Earther, Matrix Decode, has said it all!

The "sun does not appear to change it size until just before sunset" - a then only a little in height!

More explanation in Flat Earth Debate / The Constancy of the Angular size of the Sun by rabinoz on August 24, 2016, 08:12:47 PM .

Now over the course of a year the apparent size of the sun does change from a minimum of 31′31″ in July to a maximum of 32′33″ in January.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like 40 against 1 here, so I'm doing my best (considering the pay! ha ha).  I'm gonna need a minute to figure out what you're talking about, because it looks like you might have actually made a point (which is kind of new for you, so don't get used to it! ha ha) 


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Ha. You know, if you keep going, you'll eventually make it to the exact opposite end of the earth, the means that the earth must always be a straight vertical drop.

First of all, I think I can help you with that signature! lol

Secondly, You might just be going around a circle on a flat plane. 


Nope.  Because then the Sun would always be rising in the North East.  That doesn't happen in the real world.

The orbit of the sun changes on a flat earth model too.
Yes, but if you actually look at where it would be at sunrise it would always be in the North East.  doesn't happen in the real world.

Are you talking about that picture or flat earth in general, because most fe'ers, as i understand it, think that the sun's circuit varies throughout the year, hence the changing seasons and length of days.  So, its rising and setting would change. 

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Flat Earth General / Re: Real or Fake?
« on: October 28, 2016, 06:33:30 PM »
It's all srs bsns to rabinoz. He hasn't laughed since 1962.
Marciano's  ;D "It's not eight inches over the first mile;  it's eight inches over the first foot!"  ;D and  ;D Intikam's posts have lightened things up a lot. ;D
Thanks

I think you are still arguing;  do you have an "of button?" 

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: what exactly do the stars do?
« on: October 28, 2016, 06:31:14 PM »
What exactly do stars do? 

They twinkle.  I think that's the point. 
I think most of us learned that at a very you age. I guessed you missed out on:
Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!
Up above the world so high,
Like a diamond in the sky.

When the blazing sun is gone,
When he nothing shines upon,
Then you show your little light,
Twinkle, twinkle, all the night.

Then the traveller in the dark
Thanks you for your tiny sparks;
He could not see which way to go,
If you did not twinkle so.

In the dark blue sky you keep,
And often through my curtains peep,
For you never shut your eye
Till the sun is in the sky.

As your bright and tiny spark
Lights the traveller in the dark,
Though I know not what you are,
Twinkle, twinkle, little star.
But some of us do have more seeking minds and think they might be more than just "lights in the sky".
::)     ::)     ::)
Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about it.  I mean after all, they're just lights in the sky.  How much can we expect to ever know about them? 
::)     ::)     ::)

There is such a thing as "over-complicating" things.

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Executive Summary: 


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Just look at the history of it.  There was a battle to seize power from The Catholic Church in Europe.  For example, Henry the 8th in England, basically looted the church of it's property (which was enormous and under the church and had been put to use for the public good, in other words charity) and, his cronies used that wealth to engage in usury (money for nothing, which the church condemned as a mortal sin).  So, theft and usury.  That was repeated all over Europe.  So, the church was basically destroyed (as a power in europe) and replaced with state power, controlled by merchants, with no moral limit on their actions, because not only have they stripped the church of its wealth and political power, but also sought to strip it of its legitimacy. 

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Flat Earth General / Re: Real or Fake?
« on: October 27, 2016, 04:56:14 PM »


Dracula's casket found on Mars!   :D
Or a piece or dark rock that in this fuzzy photo is a shape that someone like you would take to be a coffin.
Next question?

That was supposed to be a joke.

It's all srs bsns to rabinoz. He hasn't laughed since 1962.

Yeah, he does seem a little stiff  :D


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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: what exactly do the stars do?
« on: October 27, 2016, 04:43:12 PM »
What exactly do stars do? 

They twinkle.  I think that's the point. 


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Ha. You know, if you keep going, you'll eventually make it to the exact opposite end of the earth, the means that the earth must always be a straight vertical drop.

First of all, I think I can help you with that signature! lol

Secondly, You might just be going around a circle on a flat plane. 


Nope.  Because then the Sun would always be rising in the North East.  That doesn't happen in the real world.

The orbit of the sun changes on a flat earth model too. 

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How come lead doesn't seem to attract dust any faster than feathers?
I see nobody has answered your "lead and feathers" question.

The answer is simple. Gravitation is such a weak force that the attraction between a lump of lead and a mote of dust is far, far less than the other forces involved - the main one being from air movement.

You might also have asked how clouds stay up there. Clouds are water droplets and individually are heavier so would sink, if it were not for other forces.
Now this case applies to the Flat Earth's "pet theory" of Universal Acceleration as well.

Again the explanation is that clouds are held up there by very slight updraughts of air.
This is mainly brought about by the evaporation of water leading to water vapour, which is considerably lighter than air, so rises causing these updrafts.

The heating of air over hot ground can also lead to updrafts or thermals.

O.k., well there isn't much air blowing around inside my garage or in my basement, yet hundreds of pounds of heavy metals, seem to have no more pull on things towards themselves, than a piece of paper does.  Now if gravity were powerful enough to keep something like the pacific ocean, which has 187 quintillion gallons of water in it (gallon of water weighs over 8lbs), while the earth spins at over one thousand miles per hour and rockets around the sun at over sixty thousand miles per hour, I would think a few hundred pounds of heavy metal ought to be able to at least pull a little more dust than a pair of pants does! 


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Flat Earth General / Re: Real or Fake?
« on: October 27, 2016, 04:22:58 PM »


Dracula's casket found on Mars!   :D
Or a piece or dark rock that in this fuzzy photo is a shape that someone like you would take to be a coffin.
Next question?

That was supposed to be a joke. 

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Round Earth Illusion vs Flat Earth Reality
« on: October 27, 2016, 03:11:31 PM »
The sun is an actual object, around .5 degrees wide. It stays about that size the entire day.

I think, it appears smaller/bigger at times.  I don't think it is always the same size, but I now that you mention it, I doubt it is as noticeable as telephone poles are.  Although, the point to this thread is that the sun appears to meet the ground, for the same reason that the tops of high voltage towers appear to meet the ground or clouds, or jet planes or persistent jet trails do.  In other words, it isn't because you're seeing over the edge of the earth (remember that huge drop that is supposed to be occurring) it is because of an optical illusion, illustrated by the photograph in the first post of this thread. 


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Ha. You know, if you keep going, you'll eventually make it to the exact opposite end of the earth, the means that the earth must always be a straight vertical drop.

First of all, I think I can help you with that signature! lol

Secondly, You might just be going around a circle on a flat plane. 




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Flat Earth Believers / How Did You Come To Believe In A Flat Earth?
« on: October 27, 2016, 02:53:06 PM »
I came to believe in a flat earth, because I was convinced that the earth wasn't spinning and I kept seeing videos of flat earth associated with a stationary earth.  I kind of resented that, because I thought it was making stationary earth look crazy.  After a while though I gave in and watched some of the videos.  Eventually, I started trying experiments on my own and could see that a lot of it made sense.  For example, something falling off a table and hitting the floor could be explained by a lot of other things, besides "gravity."  And that was easy to accept for me, because a stationary earth had already got me thinking about that.  You know, if the earth isn't spinning at a thousand miles per hour, you don't have to worry about flying off of it!  lol 


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Flat Earth Believers / Re: what do u believe 1st
« on: October 27, 2016, 02:42:08 PM »
I came to believe in God, because I developed an open mind.  I developed an open mind, because I relentlessly started pursuing the truth and came to the conclusion that I'd been lied to about a lot of things in school and the media.  So, it wasn't hard for me to accept that we'd been lied to about the earth spinning, but flat earth was very hard to accept.  I think that was because I thought it was crazy.   :P

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Round Earth Illusion vs Flat Earth Reality
« on: October 27, 2016, 02:34:36 PM »
The sun gets smaller and smaller as it moves away and the light gets dimmer and dimmer as well!  Just see how far you can see on a dark night, traveling in the country, with your headlights. 


However, the sun doesn't do that. In fact, it gets slightly bigger as it sets.

No, you notice the glowing light receding, leaving the darkness behind and are kind of equating that with the sun, but at noon everything is lit up. 

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Here's a video that addresses your concerns
That ship isn't even past the horizon.  Can you find a video of a ship that is definitely "sunken" past the horizon that rises back up to full height while increasing magnification?

I don't think you like my video

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This means that the average slope of the earth must be a straight vertical drop on each side.

Why don't we see this?


OSG I know you are a round-earth guy so I know you're being facetious here, but really it's a baffling argument I see a lot on here.  People seem flustered by the notion that the "drop" becomes vertical...which ultimately always seems to boil down to a misunderstanding/rejection of gravity.

I mean, yes, if I'm standing on the North Pole, and you are standing on the equator, your "horizontal" (if I could see it) would appear vertical to me.  Nothing controversial about that.

Someone made reference to an ant on a beach ball and how it would certainly notice the increasing drop as it walked towards the "equator" of the ball.  Well, yeah, of course.  The beach ball has gravity pulling down on it from one direction--walking to the "equator" will indeed result in falling off.

I don't know how many times it needs to be said on here that the earth is not a beach ball.  There is no unidirectional gravity pushing from the "top" to the "bottom"!

How come lead doesn't seem to attract dust any faster than feathers? 

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