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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: A paradox about God

« on: August 06, 2018, 04:53:57 AM »

So God won't know what decision you will make?

No, Im sayin God knows all the decisions you are going to make. He so knows three outcomes of all the decisions you don't make.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Christian anything.

« on: August 06, 2018, 04:49:32 AM »

I can't tell from your angry rant, are we having a discussion or aren't we?

Also, learn to spell before you start insulting other people's intelligence.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Hell is not justified

« on: August 05, 2018, 06:20:52 AM »

You can add Pol Pot to that list as far as I'm concerned.

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The Lounge / Re: Missing Flat Earth Society Members that cleared by NASA (our martyrs) CAUTION+18

« on: August 05, 2018, 05:51:08 AM »

What does "stop to scam" mean?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: A paradox about God

« on: August 05, 2018, 05:40:38 AM »

God gave us free will right? And God is omniscient at the same time which means he can predict the future with 100% accuracy. Now if God knows what we will do and we can't change it because God would be wrong and God is never wrong. So doesn't that take away our free will? Now, I have a morbid idea. Is God sending people to hell because he doesn't care about them knowing that they will go to hell and that they can't change what will happen to them? I'm a Christian but this thought scares me.

What you're asking about is Calvinist (Reformed) theology.  Unconditional election.  I believe it to be false doctrine.

Here is how I handle free will and God's omnipotence. Basically it comes down to mutiple timelines with every choice being a new timeline.  God knows all of those timelines and what they look like had you made a different choice at each intersection.  That gives you the free will to make the choice, and God knows the outcome of all the choices you will make.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Hell is not justified

« on: August 05, 2018, 05:31:50 AM »

Fascinating.  Let me ask you, what is an appropriate term of punishment for a child rape and murder?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Tfes vs theflatearthsociety

« on: August 05, 2018, 03:56:16 AM »

This one.  There can only be one.

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Flat Earth General / Re: How much money are you willing to spend on a DIY-experiment for proving FE?

« on: August 04, 2018, 09:01:48 PM »

1. Find me a pair of $4 sunglasses that make it safe to look at the Sun for extended periods of time.

Here is 10 of them for $1.95 USD.  What do I win?

https://www.rainbowsymphonystore.com/collections/featured-products/products/eclipseglasses

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Flat Earth General / Re: Is the earth flat?

« on: August 04, 2018, 08:58:36 PM »

Since the disk of the earth is rotating the sky appears to rotate. Viewed from above the north pole, the earth is rotating counter-clockwise. For an observer on the earth, objects move from east to west (this is true for both northern and southern hemispheres).

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Flat Earth General / Re: Tfes vs theflatearthsociety

« on: August 04, 2018, 08:55:27 PM »

Church split.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Sorry I guess?

« on: August 04, 2018, 08:15:23 PM »

This insolence needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this website with your behaviour. You are a complete disgrace.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Hell is not justified

« on: August 04, 2018, 08:07:40 PM »

No level of crime deserves eternal punishment. Not even the most evil person deserves going to hell. Because the punishment is eternal which it will never end. There's no way to justify leaving someone to rot in hell for all eternity.

You cannot think of any crime against humanity that might warrant eternal damnation?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Christian anything.

« on: August 03, 2018, 06:22:01 PM »

I'm not familiar with the current concept of christian afterlife. Please elaborlate.

After you die you go to Heaven or Hell

Doesn't everything take a little tiny bit of faith? Like trusting the scientists' work?
Also, english isn't my mother tongue. When I asked if you believe in evolution, I simply wanted to know whether you think evolution is true or not.

I find it fascinating you combine belief with science.  Very interesting.  I told you there is scientific proof of evolution.  You cannot deny that it is true.  Did we evolve from some common ancestor with the neanderthals, no.

At which point did evolution start then? 

I am not sure, probably from the day they a specific animal was created.

Which life-forms where put into the world by god?

All of them.

Which are good, which are bad and how are you able to distinguish?

I distinguish between them through research. 

What's the physiological and/or anatomical difference between humans and animals?

My answer would not be an anatomical or physiological difference.

I voted forr not Hillary. However, I do feel Trump is doing a damn fine job and look forward to voting for him again in 2020.
P.S.  By the way, and I'm not looking for a discussion because there is already a whole thread dedicated to the topic, but Trump is going to win in a landslide come 2020.  Democratic news outlets are already beginning to talk about it.  The economy is booming.  Manufacturing plants are beginning to reopen.  Lower taxes, higher wages.  The Dems don't have anybody that can touch him right now.

Obvious troll confirmed.

You stated before that english was not your first language.  Am I to understand you do not live in the US then?  If not then I will allow for you to think that this is a troll post.  You are probably being fed who knows what through the international news outlets.

If you do live in the US then you are completely oblivious to what is going on around you.  The jobs report just came out, lowest unemployment rate in 18 years.  Only the like the 8th time in our history has the unemployment rate ever been this low.  If you don't believe what I said up above, don't take my word for it.  Here is the editorial staff of the Chicago Sun Times....not exactly a Trump friendly news source.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/business/trump-charms-downstate-steel-workers-granite-city-illinois/

For the tl;dr version of you, here is the last paragraph.

“We need steel,” he said. “We need steel plants. And to see an old, big monster plant like this re-opening — that is an honor. I look at the faces of you people; I could be one of you. I like you guys. I could be one of you.”

That struck me as either sincere or an amazing facsimile. The workers, for their part, couldn’t give him a standing ovation because they never sat down.

I left the hall thinking: Donald Trump is going to be re-elected in 2020. The Democrats don’t have anyone who can touch him. Bank on it. Don’t hate me for being the one to tell you.

Name me one democratic candidate that can compare to his popularity right now.  Go ahead, Ill wait.

IF you do live in the US sticking your head in the sand and calling me a troll for saying what I did is what got him elected in the first place.

Don't believe that?

*In my best Mufasa voice*
Watch.......and remember
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Christian anything.

« on: August 03, 2018, 05:32:47 AM »

What do you think comes after death?

The Christian version of the afterlife.

Do you believe in evolution?

A quick observation.  Do you separate people into 2 categories?  Those who believe in evolution and those that do not?  Why do you use the word "believe"?  Does it take faith to believe in evolution?

But I digress. To answer your question, there is scientific proof of evolution.  No belief required.

What I don't believe in is abiogenesis.  I prefer the biblical version of Genesis.  In other words, I am a young flat earth creationist.

Want me to really blow your mind?  We homeschool our 5 children. 

Do you think vaccines are good/bad?

Some vaccines are good, some vaccines are bad, some vaccines when combined together are even worse.  I think the cocktail of stuff we pump into our kids at an extremely early age might be a little too much. 

Do you think humans are animals?

Absolutely not.

If you live in murica, who did you vote for?

I voted forr not Hillary. However, I do feel Trump is doing a damn fine job and look forward to voting for him again in 2020. 

P.S.  By the way, and I'm not looking for a discussion because there is already a whole thread dedicated to the topic, but Trump is going to win in a landslide come 2020.  Democratic news outlets are already beginning to talk about it.  The economy is booming.  Manufacturing plants are beginning to reopen.  Lower taxes, higher wages.  The Dems don't have anybody that can touch him right now.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump

« on: August 02, 2018, 07:52:45 PM »

The USofA has never been a democracy. It's a Representative Republic.
We do not have Federal elections.

Semantics maybe....I believe we are a constitutional republic.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Christian anything.

« on: August 02, 2018, 07:48:00 PM »

Why are so many Christians convinced Trump was sent by God?

I cannot speak for them.  I cannot say that the ones that I know necessarily say that. Maybe most think that a Clinton win would have destroyed the country so they feel a Trump win might have saved it.

*edit* I don't really feel my answer answers your quesiton.  It's terrible answer and I feel bad for posting it.

Because Christians are delusional?

No U!

Aren't all things possible through god?

Yes.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Christian anything.

« on: July 31, 2018, 06:00:40 PM »

Yeah, he's just the most recent one I know about.

Sometimes I think these televangelists are the reason people are turning away from religion. They use Jesus to get rich. I think Jesus would flip over their money tables.

Legit

P.S. I hope you fly high enough to see the flatness.

I have already been there.  It was amazing. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Christian anything.

« on: July 31, 2018, 05:50:43 PM »

I'm glad to see you're still faithful.

What do you (or any Christian) think about all those evangelicals begging for money all the time? There was one in Florida recently who needs several million for a private plane.

I am always skeptical when televangelists (or megachurch pastors) are asking for money, because they seem to do it all the time.  Some of my favorite churches that I have attended never asked for money, and always appeared to have enough to do what they needed to do.

P.S. On a side note I hope the guy in Florida gets his jet.  I could use a job.

P.P.S.  I recently became a licensed commercially rated pilot.

P.P.P.S.  He wasn't the first one to ask his congregation for a new private jet.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Christian anything.

« on: July 31, 2018, 05:37:48 PM »

The "Christian" version of God doesn't...  but the Jewish version of God does... and jesus was a jew...

Still wrong.

Ultimately I am not debating. I'm not quite biblical condridictions. Far smarter people than me with more time to devote to the topic than me have already combed through the bible. And whenever something doesn't hold up, like the 7 days, the religious person says... poetic liberies.... not to be taken literally.... whatever. That is why I am very clear to say, in my understanding or opinion.

Are you drunk?  There is barely a coherent thought here.  What about 7 days?  What poetic liberties? 

I like how Penn Jillette says it... I can not know if God exists or not... but if he does, I don't believe in him.

That is very unfortunate

I parallel that to... I know the north Korean government exists...

Do you?  Or do you know that someone told you the North Korean government exists?

Just because you renounce your sin,

This is part of Christianity.

just because you live a generally good life, just because you do this that and the other doesn't guarantee you a spot in heaven for continued worshipping of the G Man... according to some interpritations of the bible.

This is not.

And from what I can gather, IF the consequences for living a few years of life not in the highest standards because my nickle and dime sins racked up too many points is holy damnation being gang raped by demons for all of eternity... that price is too high for me to want to adopt it as my own...

This is also not part of Christianity.

If I was given free will....

You are.

then why punish me for living a generally positive life?

Because your day to day actions(or works as the bible calls them) have no bearing on your where you are going to spend your afterlife.

Why didn't he give me the sex drive of a Panda instead of a ravenous bonobo monkey?

Why would God do that when He commanded you to be fruitful and multiply?  Do you think you have to stop having a sex drive to be a Christian? 

Why does he grant me empathy but create so much suffering that is out of my control?

Unfortunately I cannot answer for God.  Just as a side note, even though you cannot solve all suffering, have you solved any?(I am only asking out of sheer curiosity)

Why in the animal kingdom does the predator kill their pray in such a horrific manner? Wolves and bears eat their pray alive... kamodo dragons bite their pray and follow them for hours or days as their pray weakens and then they just start eating...

Again I cannot answer for God.  Actually wolves and bears do not eat their prey alive, they kill it first.

the old testimate God makes more sense to me... he seemed like a God that was more in line with the other ancient gods of them time. War and sacrifice, bitterness, ego...

Cool story bro.

Again, these are my thoughts... I am more interested in why you believe than changing your mind. I am more interested in dialogue than debate in regards to religion.... that is why I dropped the upper forums because it is too much point counter point with ignoring good points and making up the most retarded bullshit on the fly... 

I am fascinated with religion, it is a fun thing to talk about...

I believe because I have watched God answer prayers.  I have also watched God not answer prayers, however I have watched people grow in their love of God because of those prayers not being answered.  To include the death of a very good friend of mine who was ill.  I have watched things that happen that people call karma.  Why is karma any better explanation than "God did it"?  I believe for lots of reasons you would scoff at. 

You have made a number of errors in your assessment of what Christianity is.  Those may need to be straightened out before you give up on faith that God exists at all.

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The Lounge / Re: Missing Flat Earth Society Members that cleared by NASA (our martyrs) CAUTION+18

« on: July 30, 2018, 05:53:41 PM »

 Wait, how is Tom Bishop not on this list?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: God?

« on: July 30, 2018, 05:51:32 PM »

Does anyone have actual proof of god beside the bible and feelings?

Define proof.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Why do you support donald trump

« on: July 30, 2018, 05:49:55 PM »

My option is missing from the poll.

Because a 4.1% growth in the economy is good for my 401k.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Christian anything.

« on: July 30, 2018, 05:47:48 PM »

How can a perfect being create anything but something perfect? It would have no concept of imperfection.

If you are asking me the inner workings of creation and God's reasoning for such actions I cannot help you.

If you are asking for biblical backings for my answer to the question I would be more than happy to oblige.

Is that why God wants us all to chop the ends of our dicks off?

God does not care about the tip of your dick. Nor does he require you to chop the end of it off.  If the tip of your dick was chopped off in the name of God then the adults that presided over that function were mistaken.  I am sorry for your loss.

I have seen enough religious debates to know it is nearly impossible to debate a believer in religion... similar to converting a FE'r... not gonna happen... eventually logic and reason gives way to faith and stubborn...

If you are SO committed to a stance or position or ideology that it becomes your identity and you fail to acknowledge its shortcomings... what's the point in a debate?

And yet here you are in the religion section of the forum....having discussion about religion.

I, unfortunately, am a Browns (American football team) fan... they are not a good team... they do not win games... but I root for them. Why? Because I was born at a certain time and place and it is part of my identity. Do I believe in them? Well, i know they exist.... but i don't have faith in them to win... I would not argue for anyone to be a Browns fan... it is almost like my own victim identity...

"JEEZ, my team lost the super bowl..."

"Oh yeah? Well I am Browns fan, and there is nothing I can do about it!!!"

"Oh man, how rude of me, I didn't know.... I'm sorry"


My acquired personal view of the universe allows for a super natural entity/power in some form but not for an established mainstream religion.

My advice, find a new hobby.  May I recommend stamp collecting?  I find it 1000 times more fascinating than that so called "sport".

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Christian anything.

« on: July 30, 2018, 01:08:41 PM »

Are we born perfect in God's eyes?

As a Christian I can empirically answer this question in the negative.

So is the Christian answer, no we are not born perfect in Gods eye?

Hmmm

That is correct.  You are not born perfect.

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The Lounge / Re: Missing Flat Earth Society Members that cleared by NASA (our martyrs) CAUTION+18

« on: July 29, 2018, 08:13:14 PM »

This is the abduction game all over again.

Im still not the alien.

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The Lounge / Re: Missing Flat Earth Society Members that cleared by NASA (our martyrs) CAUTION+18

« on: July 29, 2018, 07:34:21 PM »

The rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated.

It is true.  There has been a Wardogg sighting.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ask a Christian anything.

« on: July 29, 2018, 11:58:46 AM »

Are we born perfect in God's eyes?

As a Christian I can empirically answer this question in the negative.

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The Lounge / Re: Paedo of the day

« on: December 18, 2015, 06:19:41 PM »

Jared Fogel.

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The Lounge / Re: Hello!

« on: December 18, 2015, 04:58:50 PM »

Hello.  Is it me you're looking for?

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The Lounge / Re: Where are the serious FEers?

« on: December 18, 2015, 04:58:08 PM »

Papa Legba and Scepti are obvious trolls, MettaKail is blatantly obvious, and even our esteemed mod has a distinct history

Does anyone actually accept FET?

Yes.  And before you too looking through my past I too was once a non believer.