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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Why does the sun set below the horizon If the sun always stays above the earth?
« on: December 14, 2015, 10:32:18 AM »
Stop writing really long answers and answer my very simple question:

"What position is the sun in compared to the earth, when the sun is directly above one area in the world, and below the horizon in another place?"7

It's not that hard.

If you cannot answer this, the entire flat earth theory falls to pieces instantly.

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Why does the sun set below the horizon If the sun always stays above the earth?
« on: December 02, 2015, 11:04:27 AM »
You are digressing, that is all another point.

Show me what position the sun is in compared to the earth, when the sun is directly above one area in the world, and below the horizon in another place.

Surely it's not that hard to draw a circle and another circle with a few lines to explain it?

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Why does the sun set below the horizon If the sun always stays above the earth?
« on: December 01, 2015, 02:22:57 PM »
It may be easier to use a simple diagram to explain it (hand-drawn will suffice).

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Why does the sun set below the horizon If the sun always stays above the earth?
« on: December 01, 2015, 02:19:34 PM »
You can't use photographic evidence to back your hypothesis up, but discount the trillions of gigabites of photographic and video evidence that contradicts it. But let's not start on that, as I know you don't think anyone's been to space anyway, and I can't be bothered to listen why, so I'll just say this to contradict what you just tried to explain:

Whenever the sun is setting, there is always a place in the world where it's midday and the sun is directly (or almost directly) above their head.

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Why does the sun set below the horizon If the sun always stays above the earth?
« on: December 01, 2015, 12:17:27 PM »
By Sun setting, I mean this:

" class="bbc_link" target="_blank"> (Norway, even though the Sun sets in Antarctica, there is still plenty of light)

The depth to which the Sun reaches the towards the shores beyond Antarctica differs according to season, of course, as can be seen in these videos.

This is the correct description of the Sun's orbit.

And when I mean the sun setting, I mean it literally being below the horizon, which obviously happens.

There is no possible way for the sun to be below my horizon and above anyone else's, if the earth is flat.

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Why does the sun set below the horizon If the sun always stays above the earth?
« on: December 01, 2015, 10:30:27 AM »
If the sun sets ANYWHERE (i.e. beyond antarctica like you said), you are implying that there is at least one point every day when the entire world is in darkness.

This isn't true.

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Why does the sun set below the horizon If the sun always stays above the earth?
« on: December 01, 2015, 04:36:22 AM »
According to that diagram, everyone in the world has day and night at the same time. There are times when the entire world is in darkness.

We know this isn't true.

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Why does the sun set below the horizon If the sun always stays above the earth?
« on: November 30, 2015, 10:25:23 PM »

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: A question for Flat-Earthers
« on: November 30, 2015, 05:14:23 PM »
But Frenat you are forgetting that flat-earthers seem to absolutely discount any evidence from any source other than their own eyes.

By thinking there is a flat earth, they must also believe that the millions of pilots, engineers, sailors, air traffic controllers, governments, inpedendent space agencies, antarctic scientists, biologists etc etc are all in on one giant conspiracy to keep a secret from them that doesn't really help any of them in any way, fiscally or socially. For them, it wouldn't be hard to believe that a few thousand antarctic tourists/explorers are also fakes/in on the conspiracy.

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Another question for flat-earthers
« on: November 30, 2015, 05:06:08 PM »
I though you were being serious with your questions, but now you are just being silly. Nowhere did I say your eyes make things change directions. I explained what is taking place. Do some study on it using other sources on how the human eyes and mind work. It is easy ti find just have a look.

Please could you link me to a relevant source.

So are you saying that whole objects still appear as they are (i.e. the sun remains circular), but the difference between their distances causes them to appear differently in relation to one another?

I'm not being silly, I'm just curious how this would work, and if you could dumb it down for me and put it in as basic terms as possible that would help me understand what you are trying to explain.

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Another question for flat-earthers
« on: November 30, 2015, 04:19:09 PM »
' It is still a perfectly clear circle as it moves down below the horizon.'
The horizon is just what your eyes telling you what it is, showing you, they are not capable of discerning convergence at great distance. That is why I suggested using a detector that is not optical.

So you're saying that when something's really far away, my brain is telling me that it's actually moving somewhere else when really it's not going in that direction at all?

Then why don't I see the outlines of random mountains moving up in front of the sun?

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Another question for flat-earthers
« on: November 30, 2015, 03:55:23 PM »
But you can literally watch the sun go down below the horizon until you can't see it any more.

It doesn't move away and dim, it goes down below the horizon. It is still a perfectly clear circle as it moves down below the horizon.

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Another question for flat-earthers
« on: November 30, 2015, 03:16:01 PM »
On a clear cloudless night, why do I not always see the sun shining on where it's sunny?

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##### Flat Earth General / Why does the sun set below the horizon If the sun always stays above the earth?
« on: November 30, 2015, 03:15:14 PM »
As above, why can I see a sunset below the horizon if the sun apparently always stays above the flat earth?

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##### Flat Earth General / Another question for flat-earthers
« on: November 30, 2015, 02:37:46 PM »
I have a couple of questions, but may as well put them in separate threads so people answer them specifically and it doesn't just turn into a mosh of long rambling arguments.

If the earth is flat, why can't I see the sun shining on places where it's sunny?

It's night-time here in England, but I should be able to see the sun shining down on Australia if I look in the right direction shouldn't I?

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##### Flat Earth General / A question for Flat-Earthers
« on: November 30, 2015, 02:02:37 PM »
Hello everyone.

If you believe there is a wall of ice at the end of the "flat" earth, why have none of you gone there?

You can go on trips to the antarctic.

If there's a wall, why are there no pictures of the wall? I don't mean from other people (because you obviously don't believe other people's photo evidence), but you must believe your own eyes or your own photos and videos!

If you genuinely believe the earth i flat, surely what's past the "ice wall" is the most fascinating thing in the world to you? Why not organize an expedition there?

All it would take is one photo or video to disprove the entirety of modern science. Go there with a drone and fly it up, and surely you'd see what's beyond? Or is there a giant wall that you can't climb? Show me a picture of this giant Ice wall. Or if you can climb it, go up and take a picture looking outwards.

Why have you not done this?

Felix

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