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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who will win the election?
« on: January 08, 2021, 04:09:14 PM »
Chad Wolf, the acting chief of homeland security asked Trump to condemn the violence.  Trump withdraws his nomination which effectively fires him.
You made that up. That's not a real name. Come on.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Grinding
« on: January 07, 2021, 09:25:25 AM »
Pretty smart idea. Also is No Man's Sky good now?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who will win the election?
« on: January 07, 2021, 09:20:46 AM »

But it's not like they were so militant it was impossible to hold them back. They were about as tame as raging crowds get, and there wasn't that many of them.

It was so easy for them to get inside that if this was a regular thing, Al Qaeda wouldn't have to go through all the trouble to hijack airplanes and whatnot, they could simply send 40 heavily armed dudes in vans and they could take out all the guards in 5 minutes and go through all the doors since apparently nothing ever locks there. They knew very well there would be demonstrations and they knew very well there would be angry people. You've got the literal president calling for his rabid fan base to stop the election from being "stolen" and only 30k show up? And even the vast majority of the most militant ones don't even have masks or petrol bombs or bats? If anything it was extremely underwhelming and somehow they were "unprepared"? I can't justify to myself the degree of "incompetence" especially when they've shown in the past how brutal and effective they can be when they are actually trying.

The most "charitable" interpretation is that police was amenable to their cause so they didn't try to stop them. The other interpretation is that police was ordered from higher ups not to stop them.

Yeah it looks pretty bad.  But we're getting new leadership in two weeks, the house, senate and the presidency(not sure if you followed the news on Georgia).  This seriously needs to be looked into.

Fundamentally I think the problem here is similar to the problem of police murdering black people.  The police have become political.  They have police unions.  They can endorse candidates.  They have their own superpacs.  This should be banned and steps should be made to make law enforcement strictly apolitical.
I'm definitely not ruling out this being entirely on the police acting independently. However the stuff with police unions and police becoming political etc happens in many places, not just the US. It also happens here. Remember that video I posted comparing the response of police in Greece to crazed nationalists trying to storm the parliament compared to the response American police had to Trump supporters doing the same in Capitol? Well, it's actually perfectly analogous because I would bet good money that not one of the people in riot gear fending off protesters was opposed to their demands. Police is infamously right wing. And yet they still fended him off (their treatment was still kid glove treatment compared to what they would do to anyone else, but they actually tried). Because cops usually just do what they are told to do, when they have orders. It definitely wasn't just down to the individual cops, so the question is, was it down to their bosses or were their bosses too prompted to do that by someone else? If yes, was that the republicans because they somehow thought this was a good idea? Was it Trump's people? Was it the secret services? Idk, what's happening is very weird and this was pretty unexpected.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who will win the election?
« on: January 07, 2021, 08:39:56 AM »
https://indica.medium.com/i-lived-through-a-coup-america-is-having-one-now-437934b1dac3

Not dissimilar from what is happening now. 
You may think its silly but a bunch of mostly unarmed people, walked into the capitol building, stopped government, made the senators all evacuate or hide, took selfies in high ranking senator offices (possibly with unlocked computers) and only one person may have died.

This is like walking into a bank, going into the safe, taking a bag of money, and walking out.  Pausing briefly to take a selfie with the bank guard.

It breaks the illusion that the capitol building is secure.  That security is tight. 
I saw some of "Olympus has fallen" (where terrorists invade the WH) and thought "Nah, not possible."
Now I think "Nah, thats overkill.  Just need 500 guys all yelling about freedom to walk inside like they own the place."

First of all, just saying, be wary of people from countries you don't know making parallels to events you don't know. I'm basing that on the monumentally stupid and ignorant takes some Greek people who write for English language media have, that people abroad treat as gospel because it's their country and they know, right?

Not saying it is wrong, but the parallels between Sri Lanka and the US are far fetched. The only reason this happened was because the police didn't care. Why didn't they care? That is to be answered. But rest assured that if it was any other scenario, they wouldn't have been let near the stairs. It was intentional.

Not necessarily.  I think there's still answers to be had but one thing I've heard is that after the incident where Trump had protesters tear gassed to hold a bible upside down for a photo op that the police presence in DC was intentionally toned down.

Not sure if that's the whole story but I wouldn't immediately assume that the police stepped aside to let maniacs rummage through the capitol.
Would you assume it after watching videos where they are doing exactly that? 

https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520
https://mobile.twitter.com/jihanbit/status/1346909463660396550

I watched it unfold from the start. There is noooo way this could accidentally happen. The protesters were hardly even feisty, they were weirdly tame for the most part for what they managed to achieve. We've had many demonstrations in Athens much more aggressive and large than that over the years outside the Parliament and the protesters aren't even let close to the stairs. And we're Greece, we're not the US with a hyper militarized and extremely well funded police. They were walking into the building like it was a school trip. Just a bunch of obese 60-somethings and skinny dudes with goat masks walking and police just chilling there, looking at them.

You don't even have to have a lot of police to disperse them. Tear gas feels like you are suffocating. It's extremely effective. Most of these people probably had never been tear gassed before either. They'd lose their shit and start running all over the place before they even figured out what happened.

Yeah I'm really not sure what to make of the police response yet.  It does sort of seem like a blend of total incompetence and affinity for Trump supporters.

I really don't think it was planned though.  It seems like it's just a consequence of Trump ginning up his most extreme supporters right next to the building with all the people that he's declaring his enemies.
But it's not like they were so militant it was impossible to hold them back. They were about as tame as raging crowds get, and there wasn't that many of them.

It was so easy for them to get inside that if this was a regular thing, Al Qaeda wouldn't have to go through all the trouble to hijack airplanes and whatnot, they could simply send 40 heavily armed dudes in vans and they could take out all the guards in 5 minutes and go through all the doors since apparently nothing ever locks there. They knew very well there would be demonstrations and they knew very well there would be angry people. You've got the literal president calling for his rabid fan base to stop the election from being "stolen" and only 30k show up? And even the vast majority of the most militant ones don't even have masks or petrol bombs or bats? If anything it was extremely underwhelming and somehow they were "unprepared"? I can't justify to myself the degree of "incompetence" especially when they've shown in the past how brutal and effective they can be when they are actually trying.

The most "charitable" interpretation is that police was amenable to their cause so they didn't try to stop them. The other interpretation is that police was ordered from higher ups not to stop them.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who will win the election?
« on: January 07, 2021, 06:12:51 AM »

I think it is evident that the American system of allowing one man so much power only works if the country is capable of selecting someone of enough maturity and sanity to shoulder the burden, you were lucky here, if you get a authoritarian minded candidate who is actually intelligent and knows what he is doing, this could easily have had a very different outcome.

The checks and balances for your leader and their actions should be strengthened.

Well, what has happened is a good 'stress test' of Americas democratic system. Trump, despite all the money he received and his dictatorship ambition. Despite the lies and cult leader status, still failed to get anywhere. He has certainly shown some of its flaws and hopefully after he is booted and now with the dems in control of both the house and the senate they get shit done to fix it up once and for all.

I donít think it was a pass of the stress test, quite the opposite.

Imagine if Trump hadnít been just a blowhard and had walked with those people. As it was there was no leadership, just a vague idea that justice would prevail, when they got inside, they just milled around taking (incriminating) selfies and being generally dumb.
A charismatic man with a plan would be sitting in his bunker about now thinking; ďIf that plank can get 70 million people to vote for him and get them to storm the seat of government that easily, shit!Ē

I would be very scrutinous of who crawls out of the woodwork in the coming months if I were in US security.
If this was actually going to threaten anything, they wouldn't have let it happen.
Who is 'they'? Illuminati?
The state.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who will win the election?
« on: January 07, 2021, 04:28:00 AM »

I think it is evident that the American system of allowing one man so much power only works if the country is capable of selecting someone of enough maturity and sanity to shoulder the burden, you were lucky here, if you get a authoritarian minded candidate who is actually intelligent and knows what he is doing, this could easily have had a very different outcome.

The checks and balances for your leader and their actions should be strengthened.

Well, what has happened is a good 'stress test' of Americas democratic system. Trump, despite all the money he received and his dictatorship ambition. Despite the lies and cult leader status, still failed to get anywhere. He has certainly shown some of its flaws and hopefully after he is booted and now with the dems in control of both the house and the senate they get shit done to fix it up once and for all.

I donít think it was a pass of the stress test, quite the opposite.

Imagine if Trump hadnít been just a blowhard and had walked with those people. As it was there was no leadership, just a vague idea that justice would prevail, when they got inside, they just milled around taking (incriminating) selfies and being generally dumb.
A charismatic man with a plan would be sitting in his bunker about now thinking; ďIf that plank can get 70 million people to vote for him and get them to storm the seat of government that easily, shit!Ē

I would be very scrutinous of who crawls out of the woodwork in the coming months if I were in US security.
If this was actually going to threaten anything, they wouldn't have let it happen.

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So fact he refuted all attempts at refuting doesn't make you go "ahh, maybie there is something intresting here"?
Αre you sure he "refuted" them and it's not just that it seems to you like he refuted them because you lack understanding of what is at play here?

I'm not saying that to insult you, it's just that people should really stop looking at random stuff like that and getting convinced there's "something interesting here" because physics is very complex and you have to have a very high level of understanding to even understand what is wrong with something.

There's so many of these people. So, so many. I even personally know one of these people who used to show up in my university trying to show math professors his brilliant proofs of important theorems. To an outsider they would probably make sense, or, at least, as much sense as math in general makes to them. But they were, in fact, nonsense. When they get rejected and ignored it's not because of a "conspiracy" or "censorship". It's because there's way too many of these people to give them the time of day.

Also peer reviewers don't usually have epic debate battles. They reject the paper and that's it, they move on to something else. The author submits another paper or modifies the paper they already have to address the complaints and then resubmits it. Now if the author just keeps spamming them with papers they keep rejecting, they may just bar him from submitting stuff. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who will win the election?
« on: January 07, 2021, 03:05:37 AM »
I thought they just wanted to have a 'chat' with Pence

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/trump-supporters-congress-offices



Imagine breaking into a bank and taking a selfie in the safe room and sharing it online. This is the level of intelligence of the typical Trumptardian
Yeah lol these people are so fucked.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who will win the election?
« on: January 07, 2021, 03:04:42 AM »
Τhis is what it looks like when both police and protesters are actually trying:



This is completely analogous btw because this was also a demonstration by conservative nationalists complaining about North Macedonia. There were far more people there too, 30k in the US ordered by the president is almost pitiful. I checked btw as the Trump supporters were getting inside, very very few had gas masks.

Compare it to this:


What the fuck is going on? Half the police is just chilling on the side, they don't seem to have shields or riot gear in general for some reason (it's a big ass protest, how is there no riot police around?), they're not sitting in formation, they're making no attempt to spray anyone. Also the Capitol was breached and yet the National Guard was just ignoring the whole thing until it was basically over? Like, come on, who is responsible for this? It's such bullshit.

Also apparently the door doesn't lock?? Like, you can just push it open?? How does that work?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who will win the election?
« on: January 07, 2021, 02:14:21 AM »
https://indica.medium.com/i-lived-through-a-coup-america-is-having-one-now-437934b1dac3

Not dissimilar from what is happening now. 
You may think its silly but a bunch of mostly unarmed people, walked into the capitol building, stopped government, made the senators all evacuate or hide, took selfies in high ranking senator offices (possibly with unlocked computers) and only one person may have died.

This is like walking into a bank, going into the safe, taking a bag of money, and walking out.  Pausing briefly to take a selfie with the bank guard.

It breaks the illusion that the capitol building is secure.  That security is tight. 
I saw some of "Olympus has fallen" (where terrorists invade the WH) and thought "Nah, not possible."
Now I think "Nah, thats overkill.  Just need 500 guys all yelling about freedom to walk inside like they own the place."

First of all, just saying, be wary of people from countries you don't know making parallels to events you don't know. I'm basing that on the monumentally stupid and ignorant takes some Greek people who write for English language media have, that people abroad treat as gospel because it's their country and they know, right?

Not saying it is wrong, but the parallels between Sri Lanka and the US are far fetched. The only reason this happened was because the police didn't care. Why didn't they care? That is to be answered. But rest assured that if it was any other scenario, they wouldn't have been let near the stairs. It was intentional.

Not necessarily.  I think there's still answers to be had but one thing I've heard is that after the incident where Trump had protesters tear gassed to hold a bible upside down for a photo op that the police presence in DC was intentionally toned down.

Not sure if that's the whole story but I wouldn't immediately assume that the police stepped aside to let maniacs rummage through the capitol.
Would you assume it after watching videos where they are doing exactly that? 

https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520
https://mobile.twitter.com/jihanbit/status/1346909463660396550

I watched it unfold from the start. There is noooo way this could accidentally happen. The protesters were hardly even feisty, they were weirdly tame for the most part for what they managed to achieve. We've had many demonstrations in Athens much more aggressive and large than that over the years outside the Parliament and the protesters aren't even let close to the stairs. And we're Greece, we're not the US with a hyper militarized and extremely well funded police. They were walking into the building like it was a school trip. Just a bunch of obese 60-somethings and skinny dudes with goat masks walking and police just chilling there, looking at them.

You don't even have to have a lot of police to disperse them. Tear gas feels like you are suffocating. It's extremely effective. Most of these people probably had never been tear gassed before either. They'd lose their shit and start running all over the place before they even figured out what happened.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who will win the election?
« on: January 06, 2021, 05:10:19 PM »
https://indica.medium.com/i-lived-through-a-coup-america-is-having-one-now-437934b1dac3

Not dissimilar from what is happening now. 
You may think its silly but a bunch of mostly unarmed people, walked into the capitol building, stopped government, made the senators all evacuate or hide, took selfies in high ranking senator offices (possibly with unlocked computers) and only one person may have died.

This is like walking into a bank, going into the safe, taking a bag of money, and walking out.  Pausing briefly to take a selfie with the bank guard.

It breaks the illusion that the capitol building is secure.  That security is tight. 
I saw some of "Olympus has fallen" (where terrorists invade the WH) and thought "Nah, not possible."
Now I think "Nah, thats overkill.  Just need 500 guys all yelling about freedom to walk inside like they own the place."

First of all, just saying, be wary of people from countries you don't know making parallels to events you don't know. I'm basing that on the monumentally stupid and ignorant takes some Greek people who write for English language media have, that people abroad treat as gospel because it's their country and they know, right?

Not saying it is wrong, but the parallels between Sri Lanka and the US are far fetched. The only reason this happened was because the police didn't care. Why didn't they care? That is to be answered. But rest assured that if it was any other scenario, they wouldn't have been let near the stairs. It was intentional.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who will win the election?
« on: January 06, 2021, 02:30:42 PM »
Some formal process being postponed is not a successful coup. It's not even a real coup attempt. Well, to some of those in there I'm sure it was real but this won't do anything. The question is who staged it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who will win the election?
« on: January 06, 2021, 01:26:05 PM »
Well we've heard Biden speak. Where the fuck is trump? Hiding in his bunker?
He spoke, didn't pay much attention to what he said, he quoted Lincoln I believe and acted super sad. Trump is just not reacting at all. He tweeted something earlier in the effect of "be peaceful" but didn't tell them to leave.

The question is, who staged this and who knew about it?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who will win the election?
« on: January 06, 2021, 01:12:48 PM »
Lol the cops are taking selfies with the people inside and opening up the barriers, it's so obviously staged it is hilarious.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 28, 2020, 08:14:25 AM »
It's very curious how angry you are at employees not supporting publishing Peterson's book.

It's very curious you think I'm angry at employees because I want to have a discussion about them trying to block publication of Jordan Peterson's book, in a thread about Jordan Peterson, on a forum that is for having discussions about this sort of thing.
So we're having that discussion and you clearly don't seem very happy about them lol

What does my happiness have to do with anything? Do I need to be happy about their behavior in order to discuss it?  You are clearly not happy that I pointed out their behavior, why is that?
Did I say you have to be happy about their behavior to discuss it? I said I find it curious that you are angry about it. I don't understand what you are acting like you don't have any opinion now. If that is even what you are doing,  because to be honest I'm not sure what the point you are making now is supposed to be, like, yeah, this is a discussion, I know, what's the point?

U mad, bro? You seem a bit angry, tbh.
You didn't answer.

Follow up question: why are you acting like a 14 year old youtube commenter all of a sudden?

Because you are being retarted. Your question was "why am I angry at employees..." and then you accused me of not being very happy about them. I can't possibly think talking about grievance culture is interesting without being emotional, right?  I never acted like I don't have an opinion, you made that up for some reason. You tried to turn the discussion from what we were talking about, to talking about me personally. I am curious why you did that. I don't expect you to agree with me about these things, I would appreciate it if you could just have the discussion (or not, you can scroll past my posts).

You don't seem like you want to have the discussion really, unless I agreed. You just seem like you want to take issue at words and dance around the main point. So again, why are you angry unhappy outraged mildly annoyed heavily annoyed upset cranky disappointed mad disapproving (maybe?) of them not wanting to publish his book?

Apparently "grievance culture" now is not wanting to publish something you consider bad, but only when that something is reactionary. It started form banning people from social media, now it's basically employees voicing a disapproving opinion about publishing something in a particular publishing house after literally being asked if they approve of it. They don't want to publish JP's book? Sounds very woke and very evil. Join the concerned citizens club.

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The Lounge / Diego Maradona dies
« on: November 28, 2020, 07:06:29 AM »
Surprised no one made a thread about this yet. I guess it's because football (the real one) isn't as popular in the US. Or maybe because Maradona in particular isn't as popular in the US.

But, like, the dude was a legend. By FB inbox basically blew up after news broke out that he died. He had come in Greece a few times many years ago and there was a huge commotion. His funeral in Argentina basically turned into a riot. My grandfather was a professional player and he loved that guy, I was pretty young when he died but I remember him talking about him.

Also cheating to beat the brits and then no one even being mad about it was funny too lol (except for the bits I guess):

And then in the same game he delivered the "goal of the century" (the commentator really makes it):

Too bad he was so heavily addicted to coke. Also I watched CNN's coverage of his death, it was pretty trash, they didn't say anything interesting about him, they just brought up the interview they took from him once over and over again.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 28, 2020, 06:42:32 AM »
ALSO, reminder that Peterson hand wrings about evil students protesting speakers at universities because freeze peach, but has less than nothing to say about the actual state passing anti BDS laws and generally things that are far more material and important than whatever he chose to be upset about every now and then: https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/8k65ga/jordan_peterson_characterizes_critics_of_israel/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Goes to show what his freeze peach thing is really about.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 28, 2020, 05:59:36 AM »
I've listened to several hours of Peterson's lectures, conversations and debates.  I really can't find anything all that objectionable about him that they'd want to "cancel" him. 

He refused to do people's preferred pronouns.  And his philosophy is occasionally almost interesting but usually devolves into something about lobsters and chaos.

If I were a crybully then I think I'd want to save it for someone with a more coherent toxic message like Richard Spencer.

There is a reddit megathread some people made that mentions various reasons many people don't like him: https://www.reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/comments/c2ny3g/why_do_you_hate_jordan_peterson_the_megathread/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Also he influences young dudes into becoming complete weirdos who are permanently pissed at women. I have a friend whose ex boyfriend got into the Peterson bandwagon, he passes through many extremely weird phases. Apparently at some point he started looking into Aleister Crowley because he was trying to find something to bring order into his life that isn't exactly religion or some shit. He was doing greetings to the Sun God or whatever for a while. He also tried doing their weird carnivore diet but he was shit at committing to anything so that didn't work either. Eventually my friend just kinda got tired of his weird antics and his growing hostility to LGBT people and women so they stopped dating, although I don't understand why they didn't stop earlier, every time she talked to me about him it was always about something he did that she found stupid or made her angry lol

The difference is that Jordan Peterson influences far more people than Richard Spencer (who's kinda obsolete now anyways), but JP is the "gateway drug" for many of these people, someone who acts respectable, is a professor, talks as if he is your dad, etc.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 28, 2020, 05:47:14 AM »
It's very curious how angry you are at employees not supporting publishing Peterson's book.

It's very curious you think I'm angry at employees because I want to have a discussion about them trying to block publication of Jordan Peterson's book, in a thread about Jordan Peterson, on a forum that is for having discussions about this sort of thing.
So we're having that discussion and you clearly don't seem very happy about them lol

What does my happiness have to do with anything? Do I need to be happy about their behavior in order to discuss it?  You are clearly not happy that I pointed out their behavior, why is that?
Did I say you have to be happy about their behavior to discuss it? I said I find it curious that you are angry about it. I don't understand what you are acting like you don't have any opinion now. If that is even what you are doing,  because to be honest I'm not sure what the point you are making now is supposed to be, like, yeah, this is a discussion, I know, what's the point?

U mad, bro? You seem a bit angry, tbh.
You didn't answer.

Follow up question: why are you acting like a 14 year old youtube commenter all of a sudden?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 04:26:31 PM »
It's very curious how angry you are at employees not supporting publishing Peterson's book.

It's very curious you think I'm angry at employees because I want to have a discussion about them trying to block publication of Jordan Peterson's book, in a thread about Jordan Peterson, on a forum that is for having discussions about this sort of thing.
So we're having that discussion and you clearly don't seem very happy about them lol

What does my happiness have to do with anything? Do I need to be happy about their behavior in order to discuss it?  You are clearly not happy that I pointed out their behavior, why is that?
Did I say you have to be happy about their behavior to discuss it? I said I find it curious that you are angry about it. I don't understand what you are acting like you don't have any opinion now. If that is even what you are doing,  because to be honest I'm not sure what the point you are making now is supposed to be, like, yeah, this is a discussion, I know, what's the point?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 03:33:23 PM »
It's very curious how angry you are at employees not supporting publishing Peterson's book.

It's very curious you think I'm angry at employees because I want to have a discussion about them trying to block publication of Jordan Peterson's book, in a thread about Jordan Peterson, on a forum that is for having discussions about this sort of thing.
So we're having that discussion and you clearly don't seem very happy about them lol

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 03:12:10 PM »

No university is obligated to give a platform to speakers the donít want to hear speaking.

Actually, Every "school" which accepts money from taxpayers is obligated to allow free speech.
Really? Where does it say that? Do you think just anyone can go and speak in a university? Why is everyone acting like they JUST now figured out you can't speak whenever and wherever you want? Why is it even such a big issue that someone can't be invited speak in any particular university? Can't they live without the prestige? Like, this is not universities kicking out students or professors for their views, we're talking about guests who were disinvited because students didn't want them around. Like, they're just guests. They can just speak wherever. All speaking at a university would achieve for them is the prestige that saying "I was invited to speak at a university" carries with it, and they know it, and that's why they do it, and that's why others don't want them to have it if they don't like them. It's not the end of the world for anyone. Not being platformed here and there happens to everyone all the time, and for much more significant issues than this shit, but it's only a very particular group of people that constantly make a big stink about it, evidently even if they get their way after all ("coincidentally" these same people also seem to have a massive spotlight in their faces and a thousand other places where they can and do find platforms). The persecution complex has no end.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 01:56:43 PM »
It's very curious how angry you are at employees not supporting publishing Peterson's book.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 08:52:01 AM »
I feel like you are pretending not to understand what I posted. Perhaps I could have been more precise, but this is a conversation and I'm just a regular person.

I don't want to ban anyone. I don't want corporate censorship to be based on whatever is considered woke at the moment. The Woody Allens of the world can always find another publisher, but most people aren't that lucky.
Most people aren't lucky enough to get any publisher whatsoever anyways lol, do you think anyone can just go to Hachette and say "pls publish my stuff"? If anything it is way easier now to publish something. Heck, you can even just dump it on the Internet as a last resort.

It's like people who desperately want to be persecuted somehow only now discovered that publishers can chose what they publish and they won't just publish whatever you give them, and they may chose not to for millions of reasons. It's such a tired trope at this point, idk how some people still fall for it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 08:45:30 AM »
The only one I'm aware that they were successful is Woody Allen's memoir (I don't know if that was this year).
Which you can buy to read in three different formats on Amazon or listen to the audio book on Audible.  It was also reviewed everywhere.

It seems banned books have never been so freely available to read!  It's not like the old days.

That is not the point. I didn't say his book was never published, only that the tactics worked. Hachette declined to publish his book after employees protested.
OK but why does that matter? Shouldn't employees of a publishing house be entitled to have a say in what gets published? Their bosses already do. It's not like anyone can just walk up to a publisher and give them something to publish and then boom, they do it. Allen is a sex creep, I understand someone not wanting to publish his stuff.

"Handing over the censorship to the companies" is what already happens by default.

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One time I managed to circumvent the ransomware with a simple Windows Restore

This was before bitcoin and all they did was 'pretend' that your files were locked for your 'safety' and to pay them ~$60 for a special 'program' that could get rid of the 'virus'

Just restored to a time before that day and all was right again


Well I'm afraid that won't work here...

I handed it over to the techs. I hope they manage to do something. It's not a life and death issue, but it sucks having to lose your files and re-download all the apps.

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How many btcs do they ask for? How/where did you get the virus? Cloud storage shouldnt be an issue right?

Also thx for the reminder that I have to update my backups.
It didn't even say how much they asked for. I just said I should contact them, and gave me instructions about how to buy bitcoin. I imagine they'd give me a price if I contacted them. I got the virus on piratebay, probably.
Oh, I use piratebay, too. Which kind of file?

I *think* it was Fritz chess that did me dirty. Although it might have been something else. I didn't, like, notice anything until like 2-3 days after I downloaded it. So I can't be sure if that's actually where I got it from, but I think that's the one, because that is the only suspicious thing I got recently.

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It didn't even say how much they asked for. I just said I should contact them, and gave me instructions about how to buy bitcoin. I imagine they'd give me a price if I contacted them. I got the virus on piratebay, probably.


Your whole enterprise got attacked? 
You have no reprisal?

Don't you go to university?

Do you have no idea how to manage your life?


Backups.


It's free.
Seriously, just sign up.



You have no excuse.
Is everything OK?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 05:35:09 AM »
That book cover is... very weird. So many strange decisions.

Graphic design is my passion.

Graphic design was my entire career.
I don't care what you think.

You just see shit.

I tell you how to feel.     




Show some pro art . . . . . . .










take you're  time  .  .  .  .












.

Graphic design is my passion is a common phrase to mock terrible graphic design by people who don't know what they're doing.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/graphic-design-is-my-passion
https://www.quora.com/What-does-it-mean-if-someone-says-graphic-design-is-my-passion

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Jordan Peterson... thoughts?
« on: November 26, 2020, 05:22:42 AM »
Yeah, like, banning something used to mean something being made illegal to sell or publish or arresting people for reading it/owning it/whatever, but now apparently it means someone saying "I don't want the company I work for to print this trash" and then their company doing a shitty publicity stunt by setting up a bullshit "town hall" and taking advantage of them to promote said trash.

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