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Quote from: "Mephistopheles"
What about them?


They are real.

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Flat Earth Q&A / This place is quite comical.
« on: June 18, 2006, 11:22:25 AM »
Quote from: "Unimportant"
Quote from: "DrQuak"
i love seeing a picture of the earth... there are very few things more beautiful than it

Beautiful, yes. Also, fake.
It could be, anyways.


is it fake if I launch a sattelite and take my own pic? :roll:

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Quick Question
« on: June 18, 2006, 11:20:34 AM »
Quote from: "lomfs24"
Quote from: "Luke_smith64"
If we have already found all the tectonic plates, and they all connect to form a sphere, how can you FE theory be correct?


A quick question deserves a quick answer.
A: Because it is.
 :D


ignorance.

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Flat Earth Q&A / So teh windows on a plan might be curved....
« on: June 04, 2006, 08:20:19 AM »
Quote from: "Unimportant"
Quote from: "Solid_Granite"
You know you can see forever until something obstructs your view.

Quite true. Luckily for me, our atmosphere is filled with "something", called air. It is my belief that, at a certain distance, the air in our atmosphere would obstruct our view so as to create the effect described.


so the air degrades the view of things at a distance yet leaves a sharp horizon line.

hmmm it seems that if air made your vision a finite distance, the horizon would be fuzzy (like in light fog), yet it isn't.

elaborate please

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Flat Earth Q&A / Why?: A Motive Question
« on: June 03, 2006, 10:02:52 PM »
Quote from: "mariaconda"
This is retarded. Don't you flat earthers have any imagination what so ever? Isn't it obvious what the motive is? It's all about money. If people kenw the earth was round the space program scam wouldn't work.


the world is round. but nice try

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Flat Earth Q&A / So teh windows on a plan might be curved....
« on: June 03, 2006, 09:58:46 PM »
Quote from: "Unimportant"
Quote from: "Solid_Granite"
You know you can see forever until something obstructs your view.

Quite true. Luckily for me, our atmosphere is filled with "something", called air. It is my belief that, at a certain distance, the air in our atmosphere would obstruct our view so as to create the effect described.


what sort of air? air is a compound, not an element, and varies in visibility

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Flat Earth Q&A / Round the world
« on: June 01, 2006, 03:09:27 PM »
Quote from: "Dionysios"
Whenever one CIRCUMnavigates, it is implied they travel in a circle returning to the same point.  As the earth is flat (whether it is a flat circle or a flat rectangle, reguardless of the shape of the outer perimeter), when people circumnavigate the world, they travel in a circle on a flat surface returning to the same place having come full circle.  This is like drawing a circle on a flat desk, or a flat map of the world.  You get the idea.

  The first man most people consider to have circumnavigated the world is Ferdinand Magellan's lieutant Juan Sebastian Del Cano.  He departed from Cadiz, Spain and having crossed the Atlantic, he rounded the tip of South America.  He then crossed the Pacific arriving in the Phillipines.  He then sailed to India and Africa and returned to Cadiz, Spain from whence he had departed.  The entire time he was travelling on water that was all the same flat level reguardless of which point in the world he was at any one time.  (Gravity pulls water and anything else downward and not inward as can be shown from any decent experiment.)  He sailed a rough circle on a flat surface returning to the same place.

  Besides who would be stupid enough to believe in a place where trees grow downwards and rain falls upwards exept for believers in a spherical earth as illogical and unscientific as it is in denial of all common sense?

- Dionysios

if you believed in science you wouldnt belive in all of those crockpot theories of yours, like stars being angels

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Flat Earth Q&A / The UN logo
« on: May 27, 2006, 09:24:29 AM »
Quote from: "UNCLE JIM BOB"
Any spherical logo would be a dishonest representation of earth, and only serve to wangle our wits away. 'Flat earth' representations are widespread, but are often overlooked. People are too busy thinking about absurd notions, like 'Space, or Outer Space'.

Space - what an unholy, sinful, wicked and pagan idea.


there is space between you and your comp screen deal with it

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Things that can't be faked
« on: May 27, 2006, 07:08:02 AM »
Quote from: "cheesejoff"
Quote from: "Sas"
Do you mean for example that hundreds of years of scientific knowledge about gravity being a central-force motion exerting equal and opposite forces on any two objects in space along a line passing through both their centres of mass COULD NOT be faked?

Do you mean that THOUSANDS of years of sailors NOT being able to see over the horizon no matter what sort of telescope they used could not be faked?...


No I don't. Those are all valid arguments. The point is that you can't prove anything with photos.


but you can with common sense, the FE theory does not explain why the moon doesnt crash down onto the earth

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Flat Earth Q&A / PARALLAX
« on: May 27, 2006, 07:06:13 AM »
Quote from: "Goethe"
Quote from: "Marshy"
Quote from: "Goethe"
Doesn't that technique rely heavily on the fact that the earth revolves around the sun? I'd imagine that if you tried to use two points on the Earth (at the same time) as a baseline the parallax shift would be almost undetectable.


it works with closeup objects, so if you measure a nearby star like Alpha Centauri with good equipment it will work.


Why not measure the distance to the moon and sun while your at it? You'd also have to calculate the distance of the baseline by assuming no curvature of the Earth (as in the flat Earth model). Then you could compare your results to the flat earth estimates (moon and sun: 3000 miles above the equator, stars: about 3100 miles above the earth) to see if they are consistent. I have a feeling this would not refute the flat eath theory though, it might just refine it. Also its a little impractical unless you have a friend a fair distance away on the hemisphere facing the star/sun/moon with the right equiptment and even then others could just say you are lying.

edit: Actually I think I was wrong when I said "I have a feeling this would not refute the flat eath theory though, it might just refine it." If you could measure from two different baselines assuming a flat earth then if the round earth theory is correct you should get significantly different measurements.


im gonna try to measure the moon, if it works ill supply all research materials like graphs, etc

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Flat Earth Q&A / Flat Earth counter-arguments
« on: May 26, 2006, 07:42:22 PM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "azz1844"
Because your theory of the Earth doesn't have a curve. It is flat.  :?


No, but it has a shape.

So far you have been not-very-deftly dodging the made claim that if one were to travel in a straight line on a flat Earth, one would hit the ice wall.  Do you have evidence against this?


uh yeah planes fly about 20,000 feet off the ground, the ice wall is ~150 feet high

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Flat Earth Q&A / PARALLAX
« on: May 25, 2006, 04:37:01 PM »
Quote from: "Goethe"
Doesn't that technique rely heavily on the fact that the earth revolves around the sun? I'd imagine that if you tried to use two points on the Earth (at the same time) as a baseline the parallax shift would be almost undetectable.


it works with closeup objects, so if you measure a nearby star like Alpha Centauri with good equipment it will work.

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The Lounge / Re: Desktop Earth
« on: May 24, 2006, 03:22:44 PM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "cheesejoff"
with an accurate representation of the Earth


Correction: with an allegedly accurate representation :)

-Erasmus


yup they surely have the time to generate those every minute

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Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "MiniCooper"
Well the government must put curved plastic in the goggles you wear!


Or, the curvature you are seeing is not relevant to the question of whether the Earth is a sphere.  You can suspend a dish below your eyes and its edge will appear curved in the same way; that doesn't mean that the dish is curved.

If you could tell that the spot directly below you was higher up than the spots around the edge, that would be different.  How can you tell that?

-Erasmus


frickn' laser beams

yeah i said it

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Flat Earth Q&A / A Question Concerning Coasts
« on: May 24, 2006, 03:16:13 PM »
Quote from: "Unimportant"
Increasing moisture density over the ocean creates a medium interface whose height increases the farther you are from land. Mirages caused by this medium interface serve to obscure whatever is below the interface, resulting in the obfuscation of the lower parts of the ship at a certain distance. Eventually the medium interface is of sufficient height to obscure the entire ship.

When you see a ship sailing towards you and seems to appear mast first, that is the result of the mast being the first to appear above the medium interface. The ship isn't sailing up over the curve of the earth, but is instead sailing out from under the mirage.


mirages only happen in hot climates

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Flat Earth Q&A / PARALLAX
« on: May 24, 2006, 03:11:48 PM »
using parralax i can find the distance of a far away object such as a football post from the other side of a field, and the calculated distance from the angle of parralx is relatively accurate. if i found the angle of parralax for the north star, and did the same equations used to find the distance of the football field post, it would be a number far higher than 3100 miles.

agree/deny/refute

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Flat Earth Q&A / About gravity
« on: May 23, 2006, 06:48:40 PM »
Quote from: "cheesejoff"
Quote from: "mariaconda"
Of course you haven't, you're just lying. I know this because had you actually done it (instead of just lying about it) you would have gotten the same results as I did.

You sir are a liar!


Ah but if you had done it, you would have gotten the same result I did so it is you who are lying.

After all that's how science works, you perform an experiment and if someone gets a different result they are obviously wrong...


..and by that logic this forum wouldn't exist.

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Flat Earth Q&A / FE'ers, help me understand your view
« on: May 23, 2006, 06:45:25 PM »
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Flat Earth Q&A / Would you believe the earth was spherical if....
« on: May 16, 2006, 03:37:08 PM »
this has been asked and yes one member said they would use video simulation :roll:

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Flat Earth Q&A / Telescope Theory
« on: May 16, 2006, 03:34:50 PM »
duh, the hubble telescope doesnt exist and every photo from it has been faked :roll:

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Quote from: "dryer-lint"
How come when I am flying in an airplane, I can see a curve in the Earth? Or even standing on a tall mountain. How come when I am in one state, I can't look up and see my own state? :?:  :roll:


the current FE explanation is that the governemnt puts curved glass in the windows. doesnt account for personal jets tho :roll:

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Big Bang Theory
« on: May 16, 2006, 03:32:08 PM »
yup go created the heavens and the earth. just cause i can read it doesnt mean i have to be a sheep who hangs on to every word.

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Flat Earth Q&A / How does sunset happen?
« on: May 16, 2006, 12:31:17 PM »
Quote from: "mariaconda"
I do believe the earth is round, I've even seen this with my own eyes. But this sunset thing? No way. If they are real then why haven't I ever seen one?


shield your eyes.


jk its a sunrise, big difference, same condurum, took the picture m'self

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i still think this is a very anti-semetic belief. why dont you tell this argument to someone who was there, i dont think you have the balls.

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Flat Earth Q&A / If the earth is flat...
« on: May 14, 2006, 05:15:53 AM »
Quote from: "Unimportant"
Search function says: Mirage.


mirages only happen in extremely hot weather

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i must say due to gravity as well

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Flat Earth Q&A / To prove or disprove, the one and only way
« on: May 08, 2006, 02:21:23 PM »
Quote from: "cheesejoff"
Indeed I did, but no one believes that the Earth is that shape. I posted that to counter the NASA pictures of the Earth being round.

The actualy shape believed by FE's is a disc, similiar to the UN logo.



and ironically enough, its a photo taken by NASA that doesnt fit into your FE theory at all

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well you choose to believe your perception of the world instead of the accepted fact

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Flat Earth Q&A / brilliant
« on: May 06, 2006, 04:37:05 PM »
Quote from: "ferg"
vert - I'm really glad there's actually someone else on this forum that "gets it"

you put it far more eloquently than I probably could have

NK3X - try and read your post from the point of view of the flat earth believers.  You offer no evidence besides "I saw it on a big tv and believed it so of course it's true".

Marshy - Many people that work with the government are privy to certain information that the general public doesnt know, and they have to sign NDAs (non-disclosure agreements) promising, under penatly of treason, not to tell anyone.  This includes family members.  So, if the earth is in fact flat, that would seem the logical thing to have NASA employees do.
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still dont believe you... :roll:

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