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Flat Earth Q&A / Haven't you guys seen those pictures taken from space crafts
« on: July 03, 2006, 02:49:22 AM »Quote from: "Mephistopheles"
What about them?
They are real.
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What about them?
Quote from: "DrQuak"i love seeing a picture of the earth... there are very few things more beautiful than it
Beautiful, yes. Also, fake.
It could be, anyways.
Quote from: "Luke_smith64"If we have already found all the tectonic plates, and they all connect to form a sphere, how can you FE theory be correct?
A quick question deserves a quick answer.
A: Because it is.
Quote from: "Solid_Granite"You know you can see forever until something obstructs your view.
Quite true. Luckily for me, our atmosphere is filled with "something", called air. It is my belief that, at a certain distance, the air in our atmosphere would obstruct our view so as to create the effect described.
This is retarded. Don't you flat earthers have any imagination what so ever? Isn't it obvious what the motive is? It's all about money. If people kenw the earth was round the space program scam wouldn't work.
Quote from: "Solid_Granite"You know you can see forever until something obstructs your view.
Quite true. Luckily for me, our atmosphere is filled with "something", called air. It is my belief that, at a certain distance, the air in our atmosphere would obstruct our view so as to create the effect described.
Whenever one CIRCUMnavigates, it is implied they travel in a circle returning to the same point. As the earth is flat (whether it is a flat circle or a flat rectangle, reguardless of the shape of the outer perimeter), when people circumnavigate the world, they travel in a circle on a flat surface returning to the same place having come full circle. This is like drawing a circle on a flat desk, or a flat map of the world. You get the idea.
The first man most people consider to have circumnavigated the world is Ferdinand Magellan's lieutant Juan Sebastian Del Cano. He departed from Cadiz, Spain and having crossed the Atlantic, he rounded the tip of South America. He then crossed the Pacific arriving in the Phillipines. He then sailed to India and Africa and returned to Cadiz, Spain from whence he had departed. The entire time he was travelling on water that was all the same flat level reguardless of which point in the world he was at any one time. (Gravity pulls water and anything else downward and not inward as can be shown from any decent experiment.) He sailed a rough circle on a flat surface returning to the same place.
Besides who would be stupid enough to believe in a place where trees grow downwards and rain falls upwards exept for believers in a spherical earth as illogical and unscientific as it is in denial of all common sense?
- Dionysios
Any spherical logo would be a dishonest representation of earth, and only serve to wangle our wits away. 'Flat earth' representations are widespread, but are often overlooked. People are too busy thinking about absurd notions, like 'Space, or Outer Space'.
Space - what an unholy, sinful, wicked and pagan idea.
Quote from: "Sas"Do you mean for example that hundreds of years of scientific knowledge about gravity being a central-force motion exerting equal and opposite forces on any two objects in space along a line passing through both their centres of mass COULD NOT be faked?
Do you mean that THOUSANDS of years of sailors NOT being able to see over the horizon no matter what sort of telescope they used could not be faked?...
No I don't. Those are all valid arguments. The point is that you can't prove anything with photos.
Quote from: "Marshy"Quote from: "Goethe"Doesn't that technique rely heavily on the fact that the earth revolves around the sun? I'd imagine that if you tried to use two points on the Earth (at the same time) as a baseline the parallax shift would be almost undetectable.
it works with closeup objects, so if you measure a nearby star like Alpha Centauri with good equipment it will work.
Why not measure the distance to the moon and sun while your at it? You'd also have to calculate the distance of the baseline by assuming no curvature of the Earth (as in the flat Earth model). Then you could compare your results to the flat earth estimates (moon and sun: 3000 miles above the equator, stars: about 3100 miles above the earth) to see if they are consistent. I have a feeling this would not refute the flat eath theory though, it might just refine it. Also its a little impractical unless you have a friend a fair distance away on the hemisphere facing the star/sun/moon with the right equiptment and even then others could just say you are lying.
edit: Actually I think I was wrong when I said "I have a feeling this would not refute the flat eath theory though, it might just refine it." If you could measure from two different baselines assuming a flat earth then if the round earth theory is correct you should get significantly different measurements.
Quote from: "azz1844"Because your theory of the Earth doesn't have a curve. It is flat. :?
No, but it has a shape.
So far you have been not-very-deftly dodging the made claim that if one were to travel in a straight line on a flat Earth, one would hit the ice wall. Do you have evidence against this?
Doesn't that technique rely heavily on the fact that the earth revolves around the sun? I'd imagine that if you tried to use two points on the Earth (at the same time) as a baseline the parallax shift would be almost undetectable.
Quote from: "cheesejoff"with an accurate representation of the Earth
Correction: with an allegedly accurate representation
-Erasmus
Quote from: "MiniCooper"Well the government must put curved plastic in the goggles you wear!
Or, the curvature you are seeing is not relevant to the question of whether the Earth is a sphere. You can suspend a dish below your eyes and its edge will appear curved in the same way; that doesn't mean that the dish is curved.
If you could tell that the spot directly below you was higher up than the spots around the edge, that would be different. How can you tell that?
-Erasmus
Increasing moisture density over the ocean creates a medium interface whose height increases the farther you are from land. Mirages caused by this medium interface serve to obscure whatever is below the interface, resulting in the obfuscation of the lower parts of the ship at a certain distance. Eventually the medium interface is of sufficient height to obscure the entire ship.
When you see a ship sailing towards you and seems to appear mast first, that is the result of the mast being the first to appear above the medium interface. The ship isn't sailing up over the curve of the earth, but is instead sailing out from under the mirage.
Quote from: "mariaconda"Of course you haven't, you're just lying. I know this because had you actually done it (instead of just lying about it) you would have gotten the same results as I did.
You sir are a liar!
Ah but if you had done it, you would have gotten the same result I did so it is you who are lying.
After all that's how science works, you perform an experiment and if someone gets a different result they are obviously wrong...
How come when I am flying in an airplane, I can see a curve in the Earth? Or even standing on a tall mountain. How come when I am in one state, I can't look up and see my own state? :?: :roll:
I do believe the earth is round, I've even seen this with my own eyes. But this sunset thing? No way. If they are real then why haven't I ever seen one?
Search function says: Mirage.
Indeed I did, but no one believes that the Earth is that shape. I posted that to counter the NASA pictures of the Earth being round.
The actualy shape believed by FE's is a disc, similiar to the UN logo.
vert - I'm really glad there's actually someone else on this forum that "gets it"\
you put it far more eloquently than I probably could have
NK3X - try and read your post from the point of view of the flat earth believers. You offer no evidence besides "I saw it on a big tv and believed it so of course it's true".
Marshy - Many people that work with the government are privy to certain information that the general public doesnt know, and they have to sign NDAs (non-disclosure agreements) promising, under penatly of treason, not to tell anyone. This includes family members. So, if the earth is in fact flat, that would seem the logical thing to have NASA employees do.