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Flat Earth General / Important Message in other forum

« on: July 03, 2015, 02:00:15 PM »

Rayzor you can be proud this is suppose to be my last message, i have no more interest to deal with liars, and i think the moderation is probably corrupted that they can deal with the massive spam of round earthers.

People who claim to see ISS, see this message:

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8084

Good bye and i Tell you leave this forum immediately until the moderator will clean it from spammers.

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The Lounge / This forum is DEAD

« on: June 30, 2015, 01:33:05 PM »

When I wrote down the thread of "why do you believe in flat earth" I expect of one flat earther to answer my questions, instead 4 round earthers wrote comments nothing to do with my questions.
the forum is empty of flat earther and I call to all flat earther to leave this forum until the forum managers balance the round earther comments.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: One more round earth evidence nailed.

« on: June 30, 2015, 01:26:52 PM »

Isn't it odd that sinking ship never tilts.

Not at all.  I have calculated many times that the ship should only tilt a negligible fraction of a degree.

the "curvature" and tilting should be compatible but they are not, that's proof there is no curvature just a optical illusion.

I think he's just one more troll to add to the list of flat earther trolls.LOL
You can't just use the old flat earth word called "denial" . There is curvature and the earth is round. And it is a proven fact. Period.

How many times have you been at sea and observed this, modestman ?

Look at your reply am I troll ? you are troll you idiot I am flat earther in flat earth society so go away.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: One more round earth evidence nailed.

« on: June 30, 2015, 01:01:21 PM »

Isn't it odd that sinking ship never tilts.

Not at all.  I have calculated many times that the ship should only tilt a negligible fraction of a degree.

the "curvature" and tilting should be compatible but they are not, that's proof there is no curvature just a optical illusion.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful video debunking FE and Moon Landing hoaxes

« on: June 29, 2015, 06:11:19 PM »

My point in life to is make meaning, not to serve some overlord under threat of eternal torture.

I don't believe in religion, religion is almost the same shit as science, just science is more evil much more evil.
I don't believe in eternal torture.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What About The ISS?

« on: June 29, 2015, 06:01:38 PM »

JROA please stop their spamming.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What is a Shill?

« on: June 29, 2015, 06:00:07 PM »

When Eric Dubay calls Mark Sargent,  Jeranism,  APlaneTruth,  Aceni and all the others "shills"   he is using the word correctly.

Eric Dubay has never used any words correctly, ever.

Get that thought out of your mind.

Aghh..   washes mouth with soap and water...     Thanks for the correction. 

Bill,  modestman is trolling you,   if we had a classification system for trolls,  he would be one of the lower orders of pond scum.
And of course,  you know,  not to feed the trolls,  they just love it when you feed them.

I am flat earther in flat earth community who's the troll here ? .
Stop imitate flat earthers the only thing you know to do is to copy from google and imitate flat earther comments with round earth twist.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What is a Shill?

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:58:33 PM »

Ok, so neither iWitless, or septicmatic  actually know what a shill is,  that's disappointing since they are the ones who bandy the word about most often. 

If I was a shill,   I would be pretending to be a flat earth supporter and pushing out false information and weak arguments,  so as to weaken the flat earth position. 

So,  conversely  If I am a shill for round earth,  then I'm secretly a flat earther and pretending to be a round earth supporter.   

When Eric Dubay calls Mark Sargent,  Jeranism,  APlaneTruth,  Aceni and all the others "shills"   he is using the word correctly.

Now back to Jimmy to the crab for verse two,  you can all sing along...   
Shill be riding six white rockets when she comes, ( when she comes)  etc.

you are round earth shill, you pretend to be just a regular guy but you sell us something people pay to do, or other would sell us because their career depends on it which can be said about all of round earthers.

YOU'RE A SHILL.

See how easy this is? Doesn't take any effort at all.

I am flat earther in flat earth community does it make sense to you ?

Your, and many other's batshit beliefs do not make sense to me, no.

we just acknowledge there are many people like you who like to laugh in our face when they lie.

When have I lied? Quote me.

I want spend my times dating back your comments but all of your purpose of being in a community of flat earth is suspicious.

I would be easy to check posts on my profile and find it. But if you're going to straw-man me, that's fine too.

It's not suspicious. I, and every other Round Earther here just want to show you how ridiculously bad this place is at conducting science to find answers. This entire society is fucked up.

WOW You have just admitted you are a shill, good progress.

I'm not a shill.

Your purpose is to sell us science and you were a shill before you admit that. now we know that you want us believe in science.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful video debunking FE and Moon Landing hoaxes

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:56:44 PM »

The most essence of universe should be effortless and science is the opposite. as I said science is the art of deceiving, and it erect very clumsy theories to our life to confuse us and it make our life unnaturally ugly. I was believing in evolution and in round earth and in every scientific idea but I understood it make me depressed because it make the world ugly and stinky.

If it's so effortless then you should have no problem coming up with a grand theory of everything that's incredibly simple, and then you can pick up your Nobel prize.  The universe that you think we live in would be about as elegant as that single color image.  Unfortunately the universe is what it is and wanting it to be simple won't change anything.

Here is a way of thinking about it.  Let's take the 3 images I posted before and say that they represent everything there is to know about a given universe.  Let's say that you can only experimentally discover a few pixels and you had to make educated guesses for the rest.  Then a scientist could test their guesses by making and testing predictions and see if it fits.

In the solid image scientists will find out what the whole thing it pretty quickly.

In the random image would probably never be fully figured out because it's random.

The elegant image would be quite tricky to figure out and there will be some holes that will be very hard to fill, but it's easier then the first image because it's more predictable.  This is what we observe with science.

If science is so wrong, then you should have no trouble coming up with some things it currently has wrong.  Please don't say the shape of the Earth, because that would be circular reasoning.

I have a theory which summit all and everything comes out of it - Infinitely and eternally god.

God is fake.

life without god are meaningless that's what naza is all about.

My life has plenty of meaning without an archaic god.

When humanity was created the first question was where did we come from, and the immediate answer was that there is creator, don't you see you can't take it from people therefore science and medicine and naza going to lose some time.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful video debunking FE and Moon Landing hoaxes

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:52:35 PM »

The most essence of universe should be effortless and science is the opposite. as I said science is the art of deceiving, and it erect very clumsy theories to our life to confuse us and it make our life unnaturally ugly. I was believing in evolution and in round earth and in every scientific idea but I understood it make me depressed because it make the world ugly and stinky.

If it's so effortless then you should have no problem coming up with a grand theory of everything that's incredibly simple, and then you can pick up your Nobel prize.  The universe that you think we live in would be about as elegant as that single color image.  Unfortunately the universe is what it is and wanting it to be simple won't change anything.

Here is a way of thinking about it.  Let's take the 3 images I posted before and say that they represent everything there is to know about a given universe.  Let's say that you can only experimentally discover a few pixels and you had to make educated guesses for the rest.  Then a scientist could test their guesses by making and testing predictions and see if it fits.

In the solid image scientists will find out what the whole thing it pretty quickly.

In the random image would probably never be fully figured out because it's random.

The elegant image would be quite tricky to figure out and there will be some holes that will be very hard to fill, but it's easier then the first image because it's more predictable.  This is what we observe with science.

If science is so wrong, then you should have no trouble coming up with some things it currently has wrong.  Please don't say the shape of the Earth, because that would be circular reasoning.

I have a theory which summit all and everything comes out of it - Infinitely and eternally god.

God is fake.

life without god are meaningless that's what naza is all about.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What is a Shill?

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:51:47 PM »

Ok, so neither iWitless, or septicmatic  actually know what a shill is,  that's disappointing since they are the ones who bandy the word about most often. 

If I was a shill,   I would be pretending to be a flat earth supporter and pushing out false information and weak arguments,  so as to weaken the flat earth position. 

So,  conversely  If I am a shill for round earth,  then I'm secretly a flat earther and pretending to be a round earth supporter.   

When Eric Dubay calls Mark Sargent,  Jeranism,  APlaneTruth,  Aceni and all the others "shills"   he is using the word correctly.

Now back to Jimmy to the crab for verse two,  you can all sing along...   
Shill be riding six white rockets when she comes, ( when she comes)  etc.

you are round earth shill, you pretend to be just a regular guy but you sell us something people pay to do, or other would sell us because their career depends on it which can be said about all of round earthers.

YOU'RE A SHILL.

See how easy this is? Doesn't take any effort at all.

I am flat earther in flat earth community does it make sense to you ?

Your, and many other's batshit beliefs do not make sense to me, no.

we just acknowledge there are many people like you who like to laugh in our face when they lie.

When have I lied? Quote me.

I want spend my times dating back your comments but all of your purpose of being in a community of flat earth is suspicious.

I would be easy to check posts on my profile and find it. But if you're going to straw-man me, that's fine too.

It's not suspicious. I, and every other Round Earther here just want to show you how ridiculously bad this place is at conducting science to find answers. This entire society is fucked up.

WOW You have just admitted you are a shill, good progress.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What is a Shill?

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:47:56 PM »

Ok, so neither iWitless, or septicmatic  actually know what a shill is,  that's disappointing since they are the ones who bandy the word about most often. 

If I was a shill,   I would be pretending to be a flat earth supporter and pushing out false information and weak arguments,  so as to weaken the flat earth position. 

So,  conversely  If I am a shill for round earth,  then I'm secretly a flat earther and pretending to be a round earth supporter.   

When Eric Dubay calls Mark Sargent,  Jeranism,  APlaneTruth,  Aceni and all the others "shills"   he is using the word correctly.

Now back to Jimmy to the crab for verse two,  you can all sing along...   
Shill be riding six white rockets when she comes, ( when she comes)  etc.

you are round earth shill, you pretend to be just a regular guy but you sell us something people pay to do, or other would sell us because their career depends on it which can be said about all of round earthers.

YOU'RE A SHILL.

See how easy this is? Doesn't take any effort at all.

I am flat earther in flat earth community does it make sense to you ?

Your, and many other's batshit beliefs do not make sense to me, no.

we just acknowledge there are many people like you who like to laugh in our face when they lie.

When have I lied? Quote me.

I want spend my times dating back your comments but all of your purpose of being in a community of flat earth is suspicious.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful video debunking FE and Moon Landing hoaxes

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:45:18 PM »

The most essence of universe should be effortless and science is the opposite. as I said science is the art of deceiving, and it erect very clumsy theories to our life to confuse us and it make our life unnaturally ugly. I was believing in evolution and in round earth and in every scientific idea but I understood it make me depressed because it make the world ugly and stinky.

If it's so effortless then you should have no problem coming up with a grand theory of everything that's incredibly simple, and then you can pick up your Nobel prize.  The universe that you think we live in would be about as elegant as that single color image.  Unfortunately the universe is what it is and wanting it to be simple won't change anything.

Here is a way of thinking about it.  Let's take the 3 images I posted before and say that they represent everything there is to know about a given universe.  Let's say that you can only experimentally discover a few pixels and you had to make educated guesses for the rest.  Then a scientist could test their guesses by making and testing predictions and see if it fits.

In the solid image scientists will find out what the whole thing it pretty quickly.

In the random image would probably never be fully figured out because it's random.

The elegant image would be quite tricky to figure out and there will be some holes that will be very hard to fill, but it's easier then the first image because it's more predictable.  This is what we observe with science.

If science is so wrong, then you should have no trouble coming up with some things it currently has wrong.  Please don't say the shape of the Earth, because that would be circular reasoning.

I have a theory which summit all and everything comes out of it - Infinitely and eternally god.

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Flat Earth General / Re: What is a Shill?

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:42:32 PM »

Ok, so neither iWitless, or septicmatic  actually know what a shill is,  that's disappointing since they are the ones who bandy the word about most often. 

If I was a shill,   I would be pretending to be a flat earth supporter and pushing out false information and weak arguments,  so as to weaken the flat earth position. 

So,  conversely  If I am a shill for round earth,  then I'm secretly a flat earther and pretending to be a round earth supporter.   

When Eric Dubay calls Mark Sargent,  Jeranism,  APlaneTruth,  Aceni and all the others "shills"   he is using the word correctly.

Now back to Jimmy to the crab for verse two,  you can all sing along...   
Shill be riding six white rockets when she comes, ( when she comes)  etc.

you are round earth shill, you pretend to be just a regular guy but you sell us something people pay to do, or other would sell us because their career depends on it which can be said about all of round earthers.

YOU'RE A SHILL.

See how easy this is? Doesn't take any effort at all.

I am flat earther in flat earth community does it make sense to you ?

Your, and many other's batshit beliefs do not make sense to me, no.

we just acknowledge there are many people like you who like to laugh in our face when they lie.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What About The ISS?

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:40:43 PM »

Since we are talking all nice to each other, I will give you a hint as to my current roadblock on one of my designs.  I am trying to initiate a large enough current from a door opening as to send a signal to a base station without the use of a battery or power supply.  I have tried high rated capacitors, I am just having some issues with the inductive charge of a magnetic strip moving against another one to form enough charge.  I am looking at using two semiconductors an N and a P with them making contact when the door is closed but when it is open the charge should build due to the gap between them.  However, if I could use the door being closed in a way to keep an air gap between the two then they make momentary contact as the door opens, I can create a larger charge to be sent from the N material to the cap and thus enough charge to send a signal burst out to the base unit. 
I would rather keep it in the magnetic induction type model as the lifetime of the device would increase and my costs would go down.  Much better compromise, but as of yet I have not been able to get enough charge to initiate the signal in a way that can be picked up at the base unit.

Good to see Yendor come clean at last.    I'd stick with the magnets and coils  ( aka generator ) design for your door,  but I'd put it over on the hinge line where you have a mechanical advantage and gear it up to spin a little generator.   If you are looking for small generators,  try testing some small low voltage dc motors.   

For PCB design,  we used Altium  ( used to be protel )  for years,  since I retired I do consulting work,  when the job is interesting enough, and the money worth while.  So I still use Altium,  and I get boards made in china,  4 layer boards,  excellent quality,  unbelievable prices,  and quick turnaround.    All smt these days,  and enough 0.5mm pitch ic's to test the eyesight to the limit.

Yendor, 

I'm still waiting for you to tell me what part of the solar panel the astronaut would get a shock from.   Also waiting on a citation for the 1ma can kill claim. 
When you've answered those questions,  you can tell me why you think the ISS is fake,   but I want to see evidence to support your belief.

people lies a lot, a lot, look at news, why NAZA wouldn't lie ?

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Flat Earth General / Re: What is a Shill?

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:38:38 PM »

Ok, so neither iWitless, or septicmatic  actually know what a shill is,  that's disappointing since they are the ones who bandy the word about most often. 

If I was a shill,   I would be pretending to be a flat earth supporter and pushing out false information and weak arguments,  so as to weaken the flat earth position. 

So,  conversely  If I am a shill for round earth,  then I'm secretly a flat earther and pretending to be a round earth supporter.   

When Eric Dubay calls Mark Sargent,  Jeranism,  APlaneTruth,  Aceni and all the others "shills"   he is using the word correctly.

Now back to Jimmy to the crab for verse two,  you can all sing along...   
Shill be riding six white rockets when she comes, ( when she comes)  etc.

you are round earth shill, you pretend to be just a regular guy but you sell us something people pay to do, or other would sell us because their career depends on it which can be said about all of round earthers.

YOU'RE A SHILL.

See how easy this is? Doesn't take any effort at all.

I am flat earther in flat earth community does it make sense to you ?

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Flat Earth General / Re: What is a Shill?

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:35:46 PM »

Ok, so neither iWitless, or septicmatic  actually know what a shill is,  that's disappointing since they are the ones who bandy the word about most often. 

If I was a shill,   I would be pretending to be a flat earth supporter and pushing out false information and weak arguments,  so as to weaken the flat earth position. 

So,  conversely  If I am a shill for round earth,  then I'm secretly a flat earther and pretending to be a round earth supporter.   

When Eric Dubay calls Mark Sargent,  Jeranism,  APlaneTruth,  Aceni and all the others "shills"   he is using the word correctly.

Now back to Jimmy to the crab for verse two,  you can all sing along...   
Shill be riding six white rockets when she comes, ( when she comes)  etc.

you are round earth shill, you pretend to be just a regular guy but you sell us something people pay to do, or other would sell us because their career depends on it which can be said about all of round earthers.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: One more round earth evidence nailed.

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:31:21 PM »

Disappearing ships don't mean that the here is a curvature but an optical illusion can take into account.

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Flat Earth Debate / One more round earth evidence nailed.

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:27:50 PM »

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful video debunking FE and Moon Landing hoaxes

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:17:48 PM »

science definition is using the application of measurements to trickery. science is trickery,
Science can't bring to computers because it is paradox, computers is something that has an actual purpose, science is all about deception.

Actually the definition of science is "the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.".  Science may be complicated, but it's elegant.  Here is an example of what I am talking about.

Look at this image:


It couldn't be simpler, every pixel is the same color.  It's not very elegent though because there is absolutely no detail.

Now look at this image:


It's just random pixel colors.  It is as complicated as an image can get and it can't be compressed.  It's too complicated and it's definitely not elegant.

Here is another image:


It's quite elegant It has an amount of detail between that of the previous images, but the other images are both not very elegant.  Elegance lies between simplicity and complexity.  If it were to be put on a graph I believe it would look something like this:


You expect the universe to be so simple that it wouldn't even take math to understand, but in reality the universe lies right on top of the peak.  It's not as simple as it could be, but it's very elegant.

The most essence of universe should be effortless and science is the opposite. as I said science is the art of deceiving, and it erect very clumsy theories to our life to confuse us and it make our life unnaturally ugly. I was believing in evolution and in round earth and in every scientific idea but I understood it make me depressed because it make the world ugly and stinky.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful video debunking FE and Moon Landing hoaxes

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:15:21 PM »

When round earth will suffer its fall, it will be the end of science and medicine, people will understand that they were deceived, and people like Mikey will be unemployed, and sokarul will have a depression because he is unemployed too.
Mikey I don't wish you anything bad just that in your life you will see people stare at you with angry expression.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Testing the fake ISS

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:09:32 PM »

Here is another one from the industry come here to defend its pitiless cruel profession.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What About The ISS?

« on: June 29, 2015, 05:07:50 PM »

There are two options of microwave:
1)they are not bumping any signals through the ionosphere - it's simple long range waves and there is no curvature
2)they bump it through the upper earth, the earth above us which its bottom is what we call the firmament or dome.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful video debunking FE and Moon Landing hoaxes

« on: June 29, 2015, 04:54:11 PM »

You know the world of scientists is so sad that even if I am wrong and scientist actually contribute to humanity I wouldn't care tell they are not contribute because their world has no moral codes because of absence of god and the existence of evolution which actually tell us we can be good Nazis in our nature and no one should give a damn about it.
I believe in moral codes and I believe people should stop lying and being a scientist or a doctor, when the worlds will be empty of hospitals and universities then I will know we achieved a progress.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful video debunking FE and Moon Landing hoaxes

« on: June 29, 2015, 04:51:13 PM »

You are scientist it's worse than being a fool, you are immoral and liar your entire legacy is the pictures of the people you lied to them.

This is 2015, not 50,000BC.

I don't believe in 50000bc
I believe human history of the current human generations is going back to the 11 century.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful video debunking FE and Moon Landing hoaxes

« on: June 29, 2015, 04:46:37 PM »

Bill Do us a favor please don't be pretender you are scientist you are making your living from science and therefore you are liar and inferior to any other human being.

...

So if someone tries to figure out how the world works with the same scientific method which lead to the invention of the computer then they are a liar?

You are basically saying that anyone who does their own observations and uses objective reasoning is a liar, which makes sense coming from you because measurements and objective reasoning all point to round Earth.  You should try it some time, you can start by participating in my latest experiment.

science definition is using the application of measurements to trickery. science is trickery,
Science can't bring to computers because it is paradox, computers is something that has an actual purpose, science is all about deception.

You are a fool.

You are scientist it's worse than being a fool, you are immoral and liar your entire legacy is the pictures of the people you lied to them.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful video debunking FE and Moon Landing hoaxes

« on: June 29, 2015, 04:39:25 PM »

Bill Do us a favor please don't be pretender you are scientist you are making your living from science and therefore you are liar and inferior to any other human being.

...

So if someone tries to figure out how the world works with the same scientific method which lead to the invention of the computer then they are a liar?

You are basically saying that anyone who does their own observations and uses objective reasoning is a liar, which makes sense coming from you because measurements and objective reasoning all point to round Earth.  You should try it some time, you can start by participating in my latest experiment.

science definition is using the application of measurements to trickery. science is trickery,
Science can't bring to computers because it is paradox, computers is something that has an actual purpose, science is all about deception.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What About The ISS?

« on: June 29, 2015, 03:22:14 PM »

Yendor you are very good man don't listen to inferior mind and man like mikey he is scientist mind the most inferior mind, Yendor you came from the industry and you are honest man very honest, live your life with proud and let mike live with regrets.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Beautiful video debunking FE and Moon Landing hoaxes

« on: June 29, 2015, 03:19:26 PM »

^^^ Even more beautiful video made in 1968 showing how perfectly capable they were of faking space travel.

You've already been trumped on this issue in your own thread about the moon landing. Your assertions were found to be wrong, so you resorted to trash talk. Go away.

Great Shill-tactic bravo. Way to derail the thread with your baseless claims. Care to link to the exact thread and assertions of mine that were trumped? I'd also like to see the alleged "trash talk" you are referring to.

2001: A Space Odyssey released in 1968 is a masterpiece of cinematography and video editing innovation that is extremely realistic compared to the grainy Apollo footage.

Like this pathetic excuse for a take-off:



Now compare to 2001: A Space Odyssey



Obviously the hoaxers are not as good at faking space travel as the pros, which is why the quality sucks. The reason for that is it is very difficult to find skilled individuals who are pieces of sh*t.

Why would we compare the footages if they aren't from the same time period. Are you straw-manning again? Wow, so unlike you...

Of course, it's easy to assume the world is a conspiracy waiting to happen, rather than follow the beauty and logic of science, and understand where the evidence lies.

Bill Do us a favor please don't be pretender you are scientist you are making your living from science and therefore you are liar and inferior to any other human being.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Flat Earthers view on Climate change

« on: June 29, 2015, 03:16:33 PM »

if you tear down a forest, god can create a new one instantly, that doesn't mean he would do this.