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I am honored to have Papa Legba shit-post in my thread.

Your thread is shit ergo all posts in it are shit posts.

Lol you just got Legba'd!

Plus this:

https://zapatopi.net/kelvin/papers/on_colour_and_design.html

Oh, hang on - are we still doing the schtick where we pretend everyone on this forum is not a managed software persona enforcing false dillemas?

Okay - hit me with em!

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And atheists believe, without tangible evidence to the contrary that "There is no God" and so they "live by faith" just as much as believers do.
What rubbish.  I can never be absolutely sure that all the proposed gods don't exist, any more than I can be absolutely sure you don't have an invisible pink dragon living in your garage.  However I don't believe that any gods exist, just as I don't believe in the invisible dragon, therefore I'm an atheist.

It's not a faith based position, it's a lack of faith based position.

So you don't understand Religion as well as Thermodynamics, Paul?

Because every single God in every single Pantheon absolutely exists...

Evidence: me.

Yeah, you're just a  hopeless fraud aintcha?

Where you working now that Jacob's Well is being demolished btw?

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/16140830.Well-known_city_centre_building_to_be_knocked_down_this_summer/

I could Google it, but would prefer you just tell me...

Go on, be honest for once in your miserable life...

Win one for the Gipper!


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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Has Papa Legba been banned again?
« on: August 21, 2018, 12:10:33 PM »
I was in the middle of a PM conversation with him, and then *Poof*

Yeah, this never happened you mad liar.

What in fact happened is that I provided absolute proof that the member Shifter was a bot then you all panicked, deleted everything and banned me.

The most embarrassing shit ever, really...

Well, it would be if you were human.

Whatever - there are now zero flat earthers left here, all the worst shillbot accounts have been made into mods for some mad reason, and everyone I know IRL thinks this forum is a bot infested toilet...

Which leaves us where exactly?

Perhaps screaming NO U at me for pages will help explain...

If it ain't broke don't fix it, eh,  weirdos?

Toodle-pip, LOSERS!

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: So now it's murdering children?
« on: February 20, 2018, 02:53:11 PM »
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74332.msg2028729#msg2028729

Don't you even dare threaten to ban me over this.

Put your psychotic house in order, okay?

Because this is not normal, by any definition.

It's way past time to call the police on this place...

And no I won't let you forum slide this either.

Definitely police time now...

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Flat Earth General / Re: Are satellites real?
« on: February 20, 2018, 02:45:13 PM »
If you really think none of this is relevant they you do not understand how these transmission/reception systems work.  It actually explains a lot.

Mike
I said it was irrelevant to whether or not the signal is transmitted via satellite.

It is, as that signal could be coming from another source.
Again, you're missing the point.  That data is relevant in that troposcatter and high-altitude balloons can't maintain the signal strength and alignment necessary eliminating them as probable sources.

Mike
Mike, you have made this claim before. Signal strength is simply a matter of the capabilities of the transmitter. Utilize/Attach a powerful enough transmitter and the issue you write about is moot.
That is incorrect.  A powerful enough transmitter is useless if alignment to the reflector canít be maintained.  This is especially true for ka-band.  Balloons are for sure out. 

Troposcatter propagation distances are variable.  They are subject to changes in atmospheric conditions.  Conditions that not only effect propagation distances but angles and directions.   

If you look at this objectively, high-altitude balloons and troposcatter arenít viable for DBS.   

Additionally, nobody has ever seen a mythical fleet of troposcatter transmitters or high-altitude providing signal to a  hundred million dishes worldwide. 

Mike

What is wrong with you?

One of the members is talking about murdering kids and you carry on like nothing happened...

Are you human?

What the fuck?

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Suggestions & Concerns / So now it's murdering children?
« on: February 20, 2018, 02:19:40 PM »
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74332.msg2028729#msg2028729

Don't you even dare threaten to ban me over this.

Put your psychotic house in order, okay?

Because this is not normal, by any definition.

It's way past time to call the police on this place...

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Flat Earth General / Re: Are satellites real?
« on: February 20, 2018, 02:12:57 PM »
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And, if you do the math for them they will ignore, change the subject, or flee the thread.

Or talk about murdering children:

They'd slit the throats of their children to avoid it.

You're a psycho.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Are satellites real?
« on: February 20, 2018, 02:04:16 PM »
They'd slit the throats of their children to avoid it.

Okay, botty boy, listen up - real people do not talk like this.

Only mad AI algorithms do.

You need to stop it.

Trying to help you here!

Thus talks the biggest botty bott around.

Getting the mad AI algorithm big guns out now...

Chatting shit about killing kids like it's normal.

Complete insanity imminent...

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Let's not forget that this entire fairy tale requires a complete rewriting of the laws of physics...
Yes, your fairy tale does, so we reject it.

Correct definition of conservation of momentum:
https://physics.info/momentum-conservation/summary.shtml
That is a summary, not a definition.
There are various definitions which can be used.
But yes, that one does sum it up fine.
Notice a key part:
sum of momentum at start=sum of momentum at end.

And hey, look at what one of them is:
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Two objects collide and stick together
p1 + p2 = p1+2
m1v1 + m2v2 = (m1 + m2)v′
Sure seems quite similar to what others have said, just the other way around.
So it seems like what we have been saying is correct, that real space rockets operate on the correct definition of conservation of momentum.
Meanwhile, your continued dismissal of it is fantasy, and quite silly, based upon false ideas of conservation of momentum.

When you go to the problem section, you see some far more akin to a rocket:
https://physics.info/momentum-conservation/problems.shtml
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A ten year old boy (26 kg) sits on a wheeled office chair (16 kg) holding a fire extinguisher (18 kg when empty). He points the discharge horn to the right and ejects 9 kg of carbon dioxide at 20 m/s. What is his speed and direction after the fire extinguisher is emptied (assuming friction is negligible)?
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A nucleus of uranium 238 (3.95292599 ◊ 10−25 kg) ejects an alpha particle (6.64465675 ◊ 10−27 kg) transmuting into a nucleus of thorium 234 (3.88638509 ◊ 10−25 kg). If the alpha particle is ejected to the right at 1.421 ◊ 107 m/s, determine the speed and direction of the recoiling nucleus.

As I just proved btw.
All you have proven is your own dishonesty.
You linked to a page and then spouted a bunch of crap which the page does not support at all.

The notion of a massless spring somehow providing a force  has no place in educated scientific discourse..
No it isn't.
If the mass of the spring is negligible compared to the 2 objects the spring is between, its mass and momentum can be ignored.
It also works to construct an analogy, where the spring is used to represent somethign else which doesn't have mass.

What with force being MASS times acceleration and all.
Which every educated person knows btw, hence space rockets being nonsense aimed at uneducated plebs.
No. There is no "hence" here.
That is a massive, unjustified logical leap.
In what way does a massless spring relate to a rocket?

Providing links that disagree with you is pretty dumb.
Then why did you do it?

Ah look, the answer was on this board all along:
You mean more baseless unsubstantiated claims with you getting your ass handed to you there as well.

Grow up.

Everything above is a lie, written by a mad AI algorithm.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: 911 What is the truth?
« on: February 20, 2018, 01:54:49 PM »
Just a random fact...I haven't looked at 9/11 videos in years, nor did I pay that much attention to them when I was heavy into 9/11 stuff. Too much disinformation and I preferred my own research and testing.

Anyways, just started scanning through some of the comments as that was what I was interested in with legba's talk of AI/bots etc.

Interesting enough, for every video there were at least a few posters that spoke just like Rayzor, almost word for word in many instances. There were a few that were identical to posts made here. Same with sockrual.

I find that very interesting.

Start here:

https://steveblank.com/2009/08/03/the-secret-history-of-silicon-valley-part-vii-we-fought-a-war-you-never-heard-of/

Silicon valley was established by DARPA and the military industrial complex specifically to gain and keep control of all communication networks.

All of them.

Including the internet.

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At the risk of being called a bot, what am I seeing when I think I see a satellite in the sky?

I freely admit to being uneducated

Please help educate me by telling me what am I seeing when I think I see a satellite in the sky?

That's another thing educated people already know.

But you admit to being the opposite, so meh...

Plebs will be plebs.

And I seek knowledge, so I may become educated.

Incorrect.

You let a completely fallacious definition of conservation of momentum pass straight over your head without any comment...

Thus you are an ineducable pleb and can wallow in your plebeian ignorance forever as far as I am concerned.

Plebs gonna pleb, man!
I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than either of us will help

Nah, educated people want you plebs to stay thick.

That's the whole point...

Keeping your dumb pleb selves in line, like.

So you'll never know, will you?

And nobody educated will ever care that you don't.

I tell you what, if I do find out I'll make sure to let you know. Then we'll both be more educated

Ah look, the answer was on this board all along:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74000.0

Too much of a dumb pleb to even look though, weren't you?

Damn, no wonder educated people despise you...

Poor little pleb.

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At the risk of being called a bot, what am I seeing when I think I see a satellite in the sky?

I freely admit to being uneducated

Please help educate me by telling me what am I seeing when I think I see a satellite in the sky?

That's another thing educated people already know.

But you admit to being the opposite, so meh...

Plebs will be plebs.

And I seek knowledge, so I may become educated.

Incorrect.

You let a completely fallacious definition of conservation of momentum pass straight over your head without any comment...

Thus you are an ineducable pleb and can wallow in your plebeian ignorance forever as far as I am concerned.

Plebs gonna pleb, man!
I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than either of us will help

Nah, educated people want you plebs to stay thick.

That's the whole point...

Keeping your dumb pleb selves in line, like.

So you'll never know, will you?

And nobody educated will ever care that you don't.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Are satellites real?
« on: February 20, 2018, 01:14:38 PM »
They'd slit the throats of their children to avoid it.

Okay, botty boy, listen up - real people do not talk like this.

Only mad AI algorithms do.

You need to stop it.

Trying to help you here!

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: 911 What is the truth?
« on: February 20, 2018, 01:03:02 PM »
Ever wondered what the true purpose of the hidden 'complete nonsense' sub forum is?

And why it involves so much word play and non intuitive reasoning?

To train AI algorithms in these concepts, that's why.

This is interesting, I never thought of that. It is an interesting theory that as a sound concept behind it.

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Carry on in your blindness if you wish, but I know for a fact what I am saying is true.

It's not blindnesses, I am just careful before jumping to a certain view. I want to make sure I don't hit the "can't see the forest for the trees" approach. Want to make sure I don't look too far down the line for an enemy while there is a gun to my head from a current threat.

If there are deep learning AI training in complete nonsense for example, I would think there would be at least one handler monitoring the progress and making adjustments as needed.

It is just my opinion, as of this moment we are seeing more human interaction that AI...I am definitely not blinded to the point the tables will turn as tech and training progress. Just don't see it as the most direct current threat, certainly a very direct near future threat.

Though I will go and check out complete nonsense again as that theory is very intriguing and I see it as a certain plausibility

Yes, this forum has a couple or three humans overseeing it over every twenty four hour period.

But their actual contributions are minimal.

The bots provide 99% of the content.

Post times alone prove this.

It is not a matter of being unable to see the forest for the trees.

It is a matter of seeing that both the forest and the trees do not exist.
Bots add an empty space after every sentence from what I've heared. It's deep in their algorithm.

Funny thing is, nobody did that until I joined...

They even complained about it.

Yet now most of you do...

Kinda like you are a deep learning AI algorithm mimicking other people, in fact.

Here, check it out:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=63486.msg1682570#msg1682570

Yeah, busted again...

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At the risk of being called a bot, what am I seeing when I think I see a satellite in the sky?

I freely admit to being uneducated

Please help educate me by telling me what am I seeing when I think I see a satellite in the sky?

That's another thing educated people already know.

But you admit to being the opposite, so meh...

Plebs will be plebs.

And I seek knowledge, so I may become educated.

Incorrect.

You let a completely fallacious definition of conservation of momentum pass straight over your head without any comment...

Thus you are an ineducable pleb and can wallow in your plebeian ignorance forever as far as I am concerned.

Plebs gonna pleb, man!

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Flat Earth General / Re: Strange coincidence or what?
« on: February 20, 2018, 12:52:01 PM »
The only debate on the shape of the Earth is the one created by the military industrial complex.
So you're saying that Samuel Birley Rowbotham was a part of the military industrial complex?

Wow you made sure you spelled his name right didn't you?
 
Big admirer of his bullshit are you?

Anyhoo, you know exactly what I mean, as do all sane readers, and are therefore doing your mad AI disinfo waltz for no reason.

Now say NO U or whatever...
No, I'm not a huge Rowbotham fan.  However, if you're talking about the beginning of the shape of the earth discussion, then Rowbotham is where it began, not some corrupt military industrial complex.

But I wasn't talking about that, was I markbot?

And no, rowboatman was not where your stupid flat Earth bullshit began either...

Please try not to lie about everything in every post.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Strange coincidence or what?
« on: February 20, 2018, 12:41:35 PM »
The only debate on the shape of the Earth is the one created by the military industrial complex.
So you're saying that Samuel Birley Rowbotham was a part of the military industrial complex?

Wow you made sure you spelled his name right didn't you?
 
Big admirer of his bullshit are you?

Anyhoo, you know exactly what I mean, as do all sane readers, and are therefore doing your mad AI disinfo waltz for no reason.

Now say NO U or whatever...

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: 911 What is the truth?
« on: February 20, 2018, 12:29:20 PM »
To continue with your flow of logic:

Offical story makes perfect sense.. fact.
No conspiracy involved.. fact.

Only an idiot or a shill would come to that conclusion from what I posted.

Or an AI algorithm.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Total inadequacy of moderation.
« on: February 20, 2018, 12:28:36 PM »
There have never been scientific moderators here on this forum (as an example, forum.cosmoquest includes several such science moderators, who are actively involved in each and every thread, pointing out inaccuracies and overlooking each debate).

I was involved in countless debates here where pseudoscientific arguments were used to troll the upper forums.

So, this forum might benefit from such scientific moderators, but few people have the time at their disposal needed/required to fulfill such a job.

How much time or education does it require to understand that conservation of momentum is never defined as m1 v1 = m2 v2 + m3 v3?

Because that's what this troll is saying:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74265.msg2026668#msg2026668

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At the risk of being called a bot, what am I seeing when I think I see a satellite in the sky?

I freely admit to being uneducated

Please help educate me by telling me what am I seeing when I think I see a satellite in the sky?

That's another thing educated people already know.

But you admit to being the opposite, so meh...

Plebs will be plebs.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: 911 What is the truth?
« on: February 20, 2018, 12:10:10 PM »
Ever wondered what the true purpose of the hidden 'complete nonsense' sub forum is?

And why it involves so much word play and non intuitive reasoning?

To train AI algorithms in these concepts, that's why.

This is interesting, I never thought of that. It is an interesting theory that as a sound concept behind it.

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Carry on in your blindness if you wish, but I know for a fact what I am saying is true.

It's not blindnesses, I am just careful before jumping to a certain view. I want to make sure I don't hit the "can't see the forest for the trees" approach. Want to make sure I don't look too far down the line for an enemy while there is a gun to my head from a current threat.

If there are deep learning AI training in complete nonsense for example, I would think there would be at least one handler monitoring the progress and making adjustments as needed.

It is just my opinion, as of this moment we are seeing more human interaction that AI...I am definitely not blinded to the point the tables will turn as tech and training progress. Just don't see it as the most direct current threat, certainly a very direct near future threat.

Though I will go and check out complete nonsense again as that theory is very intriguing and I see it as a certain plausibility

Yes, this forum has a couple or three humans overseeing it over every twenty four hour period.

But their actual contributions are minimal.

The bots provide 99% of the content.

Post times alone prove this.

It is not a matter of being unable to see the forest for the trees.

It is a matter of seeing that both the forest and the trees do not exist.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Strange coincidence or what?
« on: February 20, 2018, 11:57:06 AM »
Then why would the military industrial complex care about the flat/round earth debate at all, let alone play both sides?

The military industrial complex created the silly fake flat/round Earth debate, botty boy...

Remember Mitsubishi?

The guys who control Nikon, who I have proved are responsible for much of the silly fake flat Earth YouTube movement?

Well yeah, they're about as big a player in the military industrial complex as it gets:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Heavy_Industries#Operations

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2017/08/18/mhi-lands-contract-to-build-new-japanese-destroyers/

So they care enough about it to create it in the first place, markbot...

Wanna take a guess why?
I have no idea as to why Mitusbishi would care.

Yes you do.

To associate the idea of all the massive military industrial corruption they are involved in with as ridiculous and unscientific a belief as possible.
Huh?  Corruption in the military industrial complex has been well known forever and has nothing at all to do with the debate on the shape of the earth.

And did you deliberately spell Mitsubishi wrong so it would be less likely to show up in searches for "flat Earth Mitsubishi"?
You seriously think that a bot would mispell a word on purpose to fool a search engine when search engines are pretty good about providing the correct spelling?  ::)

The only debate on the shape of the Earth is the one created by the military industrial complex.

Coincidentally the same one you have been contributing to for years.

And yes, misspelling words to break google searches is shill tactics 101 and thus easily Incorporated into a bots programming.

Like it has been into yours.

Just give it up, botty boy.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Re: 911 What is the truth?
« on: February 20, 2018, 11:41:55 AM »
Funny how everyone IRL knows 9/11 was an inside job, but a poll on a supposed free thinker/truther forum says its a minority view...

Why?

Because fake poll, fake forum, and fake posters...

Bots!

https://medium.com/artificial-intelligence-policy-laws-and-ethics/artificial-intelligence-chatbots-will-overwhelm-human-speech-online-the-rise-of-madcoms-e007818f31a1

Fake poll, fake forum, and fake people highly possible. Bots, I have to disagree.

Even the link you posted said madcoms are in their rudimentary stages. That link was a warning to the near future.

The speech if the supposed bots are two complex for bots as of now. I think it is much more likely it is a few people controlling many accounts here and abroad, with the assistance of AI to make controlling so many at a time easier.

You used to think this as well until you went into the bot territory. I think the threat is absolutely real and will certainly be a reality in the next few years. Just not currently, at least not when it is people talking to people. I am sure there are many bots posting on Facebook/Twitter where complex communication is not required.

Long story short, it is great to be prepared for high level bots posing as humans as it will be a reality soon enough. However, you cannot ignore the threat in the now preparing for the future.

If someone has a gun to your head, yet you ignore that looking at the gun down the hallway someone could pick up...you won't be around long enough to worry about the possibility.

(I say this excluding Heiwa...that is the only poster speaking in the way a rudimentary bot would speak)

The medium.com article is way optimistic.

Deep learning AI algorithms are here, right now.

I've watched them evolve on this site, and with the correct analytical tools it could easily be proven.

Ever wondered what the true purpose of the hidden 'complete nonsense' sub forum is?

And why it involves so much word play and non intuitive reasoning?

To train AI algorithms in these concepts, that's why.

Same goes with 'angry ranting' to a lesser extent.

Carry on in your blindness if you wish, but I know for a fact what I am saying is true.

IRL people agree with me too, just as they agree 9/11 was a farce...

So that's a clincher.

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http://wwxw.physicsclassroom.com/class/momentum/Lesson-2/Momentum-Conservation-in-Explosions

Providing links that disagree with you is pretty dumb.

Seems it's a habit you can't break though.

All the plebs who believe in shpayze rokkitz may fall for your cringeworthy con trick, but educated people will not.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Strange coincidence or what?
« on: February 20, 2018, 11:21:13 AM »
Then why would the military industrial complex care about the flat/round earth debate at all, let alone play both sides?

The military industrial complex created the silly fake flat/round Earth debate, botty boy...

Remember Mitsubishi?

The guys who control Nikon, who I have proved are responsible for much of the silly fake flat Earth YouTube movement?

Well yeah, they're about as big a player in the military industrial complex as it gets:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Heavy_Industries#Operations

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2017/08/18/mhi-lands-contract-to-build-new-japanese-destroyers/

So they care enough about it to create it in the first place, markbot...

Wanna take a guess why?
I have no idea as to why Mitusbishi would care.

Yes you do.

To associate the idea of all the massive military industrial corruption they are involved in with as ridiculous and unscientific a belief as possible.

And did you deliberately spell Mitsubishi wrong so it would be less likely to show up in searches for "flat Earth Mitsubishi"?

Probably.

Corruption is all you are programmed with, markbot.

That's not an ad hom btw, as you are not human.

It's just a fact.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Total inadequacy of moderation.
« on: February 20, 2018, 11:15:08 AM »
Here is an obvious bot, on allegedly the most strictly moderated sub forum, openly admitting that the link he provided to support his claim is Pseudoscientific crap:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74265.msg2028656#msg2028656

If the moderators cannot see this and deal with it according to their own rules and regs, I suggest they are worthless.

Will I get yet another warning for pointing these FACTS out?

Or an instant ban?

We will see...

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Back to this:

Let's not forget that this entire fairy tale requires a complete rewriting of the laws of physics...

Here it is, plain as day:

A rocket would operate on the following momentum equation:

m1v1 = m2v2 + m3v3

1 = rocket and fuel
2 = rocket less fuel
3 = fuel

Correct definition of conservation of momentum:

https://physics.info/momentum-conservation/summary.shtml

Ergo, silly fake space rockets operate on a false definition of conservation of momentum.

Which every educated person already knows btw...

Not really a secret that it's all nonsense aimed at plebs.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Are satellites real?
« on: February 20, 2018, 11:01:12 AM »
Balloons definitively exists !




They used some kind of deep learning to simulate high altitudes winds to more or less steer the balloon ...


https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/02/project-loon-engineer-sees-a-tool-for-future-disaster-response-in-puerto-rico/


Be careful Google might have been taken over by FE'rs to divide us.

Embarrassingly obvious AI generated shitpost, created via scraping current forum trends.

Not much doubt at this point.

Of course the bot wishes to distract from the fact that digital info can be transmitted at frequencies below 40 mhz, and all this implies...

But meh.

Obvious shill forum is obvious.

Oh and markbot, lawyers pissing, moaning and quibbling is nothing new...

You should know.

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So you can get your massless springs and other pseudo-scientific crap and shove off.
The notion of a massless spring somehow providing a force comes from the link YOU provided to support YOUR claims, botty boy.
Yes, but I have no trouble accepting said laws of physics.

So you have no trouble accepting the laws of physics you just described as Pseudoscientific crap?

Okay, I think it's proven beyond doubt you are a mad lying time wasting AI algorithm.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Another mass shooting...
« on: February 20, 2018, 10:43:41 AM »
I see Infowars are up to their usual journalistic standards.   https://www.infowars.com/report-florida-shooter-inspired-by-isis-allahu-akbar/

Twitter response to infowars.  https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/status/964187511017869316

Meanwhile, the troll farm, and fake news sites are having a field day... https://www.wired.com/story/pro-gun-russian-bots-flood-twitter-after-parkland-shooting/

Rayzor is an expert on every conspiracy theory and conspiracy forum on the entire internet, bar none, ever.

This does not make it look like an AI algorithm designed to patrol these places, spamming disinfo and wasting peoples time on as many as possible, oh no it does not!

kek

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