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And that for centuries countries all over the world, not just conspiracy theory obsessed Americans, know that the Earth is a sphere.
There are only three dimensions, to represent the holy trinity every second of every day.
Quote from: "BOG"Um, no, that'd mean that the surface of the Earth would be a plane, as opposed to a curved surface of a sphere. Take some geometry.
No, flat means 2D, only 2 dimensions. A square is flat, a circle is flat, and (according to you) the earth is flat.Quote from: "BOG"We're using the word, so you have to conform to our definition.
Well, you're using my language of choice, so confine to what the words themselves mean, and don't make up definitions for yourself.
flat (flāt)
adj. flat·ter, flat·test
1)Having a horizontal surface without a slope, tilt, or curvature.
2)Having a smooth, even, level surface: a skirt sewed with fine flat seams.
3)Having a relatively broad surface in relation to thickness or depth: a flat board. See Synonyms at level.
4)Stretched out or lying at full length along the ground; prone.
5)Free of qualification; absolute: a flat refusal.
6)Fixed; unvarying: a flat rate.
7)Lacking interest or excitement; dull: a flat scenario.
a)Lacking in flavor: a flat stew that needs salt.
b)Having lost effervescence or sparkle: flat beer.
c)Deflated. Used of a tire.
d)Electrically discharged. Used of a storage battery.
e)Being below the correct pitch.
f)Being one half step lower than the corresponding natural key: the key of B flat.
9)
a)Deflated. Used of a tire.
b)Electrically discharged. Used of a storage battery.
c)Being below the correct pitch.
d)Being one half step lower than the corresponding natural key: the key of B flat.
10)Of or relating to a horizontal line that displays no ups or downs and signifies the absence of physiological
activity: A flat electroencephalogram indicates a loss of brain function.
11)Commercially inactive; sluggish: flat sales for the month.
12)Unmodulated; monotonous: a flat voice.
13)Lacking variety in tint or shading; uniform: "The sky was bright but flat, the color of oyster shells" (Anne Tyler).
14)Not glossy; mat: flat paint.
15)Music
a)Being below the correct pitch.
b)Being one half step lower than the corresponding natural key: the key of B flat.
16)Designating the vowel a as pronounced in bad or cat.
17)Nautical Taut. Used of a sail.
When I look up a conspiracy, I expect a damn good "theory" (excuse) as to why they're correct, and yet, you guys make the ice wall. What is that? Also, why is everything a conspiracy? If the Earth really was flat, why would people hide that information? What could they POSSIBLY GAIN?!?!?!?!?!?!
Q: "What is the motive behind this conspiracy?"
A: The motive is unknown although it is probably money
Also, if the Earth is flat, wouldn't that make it 2D? Um flat, of course meaning no depth. I know what your respons to that will be though, it's a cube, but flat's easier to say, yeah, I'm sure.
1 more thing before I listen to some sorry "theories" (excuses), how can you tell people that they can't use pictures from space as proof, just because they haven't been there? So, according to that logic, China doesn't exist, neither does Florida because I haven't been there!!! Nice proof, real nice proof.
Quote from: "ceez_says_doh"This is a piggyback question to a previous post of mine that generated a topic on pain.
If I ran face first into the ice wall, what would happen?
You'd hurt yourself, probably.
<--looking perky and interested
Most of it is guarded. Plus, if you read the story, I was invited on this trip by my friend, and it was a government-supported trip, otherwise I never would have been able to make it.
~D-Draw
Ok, wherever the edge is on the other side. Why not take an expedition to a different place. surely the whole front is not guarded by dressed up military men carrying vintage rifles ?
lol i realized that once I saw the "alleged proof". haha
I guess these people can also come up with cool videos just as NASA does. Whom to believe ? Damn.
Ahh, but see, this is one of the few bastions of truth that is left on the internet.
But I do see your point, as there is an abundant amount of information that is available on the internet.
Perhaps the caveat to this discussion should be that all information that is attained via the internet should be taken with a grain of salt, until which time said information has been verified and confirmed via the written word.
This looks like a photoshopped image to me.
Besides, you could have chosen to go up further in Russia or the north pole. Surely the entire border has not been guarded ? And by the look of it the guards appear to be wearing nice decorative military suits. And their rifles look kinda vintage. Nice way to guard the border in freezing cold.
While that work is somewhat controversial, it is clear that there is no evidence that suggests Americans are stupid. You are wrong on every point. If you're going to make up accusations of a lack of intelligence and generalise about a nation of 300 million people, you should make sure you actually have some evidence to back up your claims. When you consider the great influence that Americans have had on society and for the benefit of the human race - people like Ernest Hemingway, John Steinbeck, John F Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, Martin Luther King, Isaac Asimov, Alexander Graeme Bell, etc. then it is clear that there are many Americans who are not stupid, and people who come from America are no more or less likely to be stupid than any other person. Our knowledge of biology also tells us that it is extremely unlikely that the location that a person lives in has any bearing on their intellectual facilities.
I am an Australian, and have never visited the United States. I have many problems with parts of American culture and with many of the political decisions that the US government makes. However I also do not hold the people of America account for those decisions. It is clear that they are not responsible and that they are generally no less intelligent than anybody else. You may lack the intellectual capacity to differentiate between the decisions of a government and the decisions of individual people, but it is obvious that your assertion that Americans are stupid is false and that you are wrong.
Wait, you trust what is on the internet?
Everything that is in a book is truth. This whole internet thingy, is nothing more than a conspiracy to delude people from the truth.
You can't trust the internet.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5829
People who haven't seen it for themselves are mainly speculating, because it's a necessary and logical conclusion of the flat Earth theory.
~D-Draw
someone ripped out one of the pages I needed from my encyclopedia!!!!
this will have to wait until tomorrow when I can get to the free library of philadelphia to resume my research.
i apologize but want to thank you 'fellas' for a stimulating discussion on whether or not being hit in the face with a pan is painful.
I'm actually an Aero major, and we have to take some relativity (it's useless, but they want us to know it), so here's the deal, and yes, it's hard to get your head around. light tracels at c. whatever reference frame you view it at, it's going at c, so if you're outside, standing still, and a car goes by at mach 1 with headlights on, the light from the headlights, as measured by you will be going EXACTLY C. However, if someone was out infront of the car going mach one, he, too would measure the light as going C. I know it's weird, and it defies a lot of the logic you've been presented, but it really is the way light and time and space work.
This is pathetic. It's like trying to convince a group of kids there is no santa clause.
Well, I guess I can't convince you I have a PhD... then again, you cant convince me that the earth is flat. I guess we both lose. Or do we both win? Or does one of us lose, and the other wins? I'm not sure.
They say that all genius' were crazy at some point.
Shit... we better watch Tom more closely...
I think it was something about wormholes, it was a few days ago actually.
Ah! Found it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole#Wormholes_and_faster-than-light_travelQuote from: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole#Wormholes_and_faster-than-light_travel"Special relativity only applies locally. Wormholes allow superluminal (faster-than-light) travel by ensuring that the speed of light is not exceeded locally at any time. While traveling through a wormhole, subluminal (slower-than-light) speeds are used. If two points are connected by a wormhole, the time taken to traverse it would be less than the time it would take a light beam to make the journey if it took a path through the space outside the wormhole. However, a light beam traveling through the wormhole would always beat the traveler. As an analogy, running around to the opposite side of a mountain at maximum speed may take longer than walking through a tunnel crossing it. You can walk slowly while reaching your destination more quickly because the length of your path is shorter
Take a picture of you holding your certifications, diploma.
I used to wonder that as well, up until a few days ago actually. I was doing a little research into wormholes, and it mentioned something about light always traveling at c in all reference frames.
In essence, yes, it probably does travel at C+M1. Since the main reference point would be the car, the light will travel at C relative to the car.
If the reference frame becomes outside the car, both car may appear to be stopped, since now relativistic effects come into play. I'm not totally sure what happens at this point, but I think light would continue to travel at C and experience no relativistic effects?
Oh, and I know that Tom is incapable of pretending. Seems he is incapable of anything.
Also, I want directions to this "ice wall" maybe the K-Man and I could go with a group of you guys, I would be willing to treat everyone to lunch. What does everyone say?
BOOSH or NO?
