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Flat Earth Q&A / Why?

« on: January 15, 2007, 12:47:56 PM »

How is it even conceivable that the government couldn't just take our money from us up front? It's not like there is anything we could do about it. Why waste effort to keep this MASSIVE conspiracy going, and keep their affluence discreet?

Because people start getting pitchforks and flaming torches and start beating people with sticks when that happens. It's also not a governmental conspiracy, it's just they have influence over the governments. Or something.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Why?

« on: January 15, 2007, 12:31:23 PM »

Er, if they've been spending the money all along, how would you know the difference?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Why?

« on: January 15, 2007, 12:29:05 PM »

You don't have to use it on obvious sources of wealth.

What you are spending it on is stocks. Investments. You're spending it on really awesome jewellery, you're spending it on living the goodlife. You're also just being sure to not spend it on giant houses.

People, try harder, here.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Why?

« on: January 15, 2007, 12:24:26 PM »

The question I have is: Why couldn't you use the space program, and then miraculously find out the earth IS flat? Like, if everyone knows, you still have billions of dollars, and if it turns out that people really wanna know more now, you're gonna get UNBELIEVABLE CASH to find out more about how what everyone thought about the universe was wrong.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Sub-orbital satellites: How do they work?

« on: January 15, 2007, 12:22:44 PM »

Edit: It doesn't require gravity, actually. It just requires that things /float/.

FYI floating requires gravity. There is no buoyancy in freefall.

Ah, but it doesn't require RE gravity. It's quite compatible with FE gravity.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Overcomplicated

« on: January 15, 2007, 12:19:53 PM »

Look, people are missing the point here. As far as I can tell, the flat earth theory seems to be 'don't believe shit you haven't seen'.

TheEngineer has seen atoms, so he believes in atoms.
He has seen underwater life, so he believes in underwater life.
He hasn't seen the earth is round, so he doesn't believe the earth is round.

WORKS FOR ME.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Overcomplicated

« on: January 15, 2007, 01:08:28 AM »

You haven't, so how can you trust that anyone else has, much in the same way you can't trust the photos of the round earth?

Really, now.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Questions for flat-Earthers

« on: January 15, 2007, 01:05:18 AM »

Not necessarily. I point you to the foil mylar balloon. I work in a grocery store where one has stayed up at the top of the ceiling, without deflating, for several months. This is because it is a non-porous material, so seals quite handily.

In a world where we didn't spend billions of dollars to go into space, a balloon that doesn't deflate really isn't that hard.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Overcomplicated

« on: January 15, 2007, 01:03:14 AM »

Uh, no you haven't. You've never been to space. Remember? Noone has ever been to space, and the space program money was spent on the high-quality imaging to make the doctored photos of the round earth. Have you even read Tom Bishop's posts?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Overcomplicated

« on: January 15, 2007, 12:55:49 AM »

Like life?  Oh, wait, no.  That's a pattern other celestial objects don't follow.

--how do you know that there isn't any life on other celestial objects, since we've never been there? Like the King of All Cosmos.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Sub-orbital satellites: How do they work?

« on: January 15, 2007, 12:52:24 AM »

Oh. Okay, I suppose I can work with that. So I'm assuming you're basically saying that it's all...weather balloons?

Edit: It doesn't require gravity, actually. It just requires that things /float/.

See, things that are lighter than air are not less gravitationally pulled. They are less dense. This is why liquid hydrogen will not float upwards. For the same reason that ice floats to the top of a drink, blimps and dirigibles can float without actual need for gravity.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Sub-orbital satellites: How do they work?

« on: January 15, 2007, 12:39:54 AM »

Alright. I remember reading here you don't need orbit to make satellites work, and you can do it in the atmos...er. The bits of gas above the Earth.

I'm not immediately trying to prove you guys wrong here--I just want to know how this is done. Obviously it's not possible in RE, but only because the speed you need to avoid crashing into the Earth results in friction with the air, which results in the satellite being perpetually on fire. Like many things, including kittens, it's not really good for things to be on fire.

So....how do you keep a satellite up in the air without constantly using fuel? I mean, assuming they don't. If they do just continually use fuel, how do you build a satellite that small and keep it fueled?

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Flat Earth Q&A / An Analogy For a Flat Earth/Round Earth Debate

« on: January 14, 2007, 03:09:14 PM »

Person 1 :  It seems to me like witches don't exist because the only evidence I have is what church leaders and the government tell me.

Person 2:  But everyone believes in witches! How could we all be wrong?

Person 1:  Because of scientific evidence.

Person 2:  But why would the church and the government lie to us about witches?

Person 1:  To gain wealth and power.

Person 2:  That's completely absurd. Besides, people have seen witches perform magic! How do you explain eyewitness accounts?

Person 1:  They were fabricated by the church.

Person 2:  You're crazy! I can't believe that in this day and age people could believe witches and magic don't exist!

This is, once again, the really useful, worthwhile thing FErs have to say. Things after it seem to break down a bit, but this? I would thank you just for bringing this up.

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Flat Earth Q&A / flight times

« on: January 14, 2007, 03:01:09 PM »

Well, okay, can we agree that 4/5s of 24000 is, um, whatever someone not too lazy to pull a calculator out and test it is?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Terminal Velocity and the Flat Earth

« on: January 14, 2007, 02:56:58 PM »

But if the earth is accelerating, from what Tom said, we wouldn't lose the acceleration by jumping but for the air resistance.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Terminal Velocity and the Flat Earth

« on: January 14, 2007, 02:48:07 PM »

Wait.

So in a perfect, airless vacuum, you'd jump higher, if not hover?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Conspiracy

« on: January 14, 2007, 02:45:14 PM »

Reasonable: However, if you have the power to mislead governments into spending ludicrous amounts of money on something over thousands of years, there are considerably easier and less provable targets than the shape of the earth.

If you also have this power to affect the entire earth without fail in this manner, you...don't really need money.

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The Lounge / The Holocaust didn't happen.

« on: January 14, 2007, 11:38:22 AM »

The holocaust is very possible. Stalin killed far more, and I rarely see any contention of those numbers.

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Flat Earth Q&A / An Analogy For a Flat Earth/Round Earth Debate

« on: January 14, 2007, 10:48:16 AM »

Your conversation should read:
Person 1: Coca-cola and Pepsi have identical ingredients.
Person 2: No they don't.
Person 1: Well, based upon my experiments and observations I conclude that they do.
Person 2: Your experiments were rubbish, because the drinks have different ingredients. Besides, the ingredients are right on the bottle, and they're clearly not the same.
Person 1:  ...

Guys, I want to know. Do FErs believe that Coca-Cola and Pepsi have identical ingredients, because if not, you bastards just shot your own argument in the freaking knee.

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Flat Earth Q&A / The Atmosphere

« on: January 14, 2007, 01:29:58 AM »

Actually, the part I want to know is how you keep a satellite up in the air for years. Wouldn't that require a lot of fuel?

Edit: Also, the RE conspiracy government moved my post into the wrong thread. 4 srsly.

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Flat Earth Q&A / South... Always?

« on: January 11, 2007, 03:33:41 PM »

HEY HEY HEY.

The gays know their fashion design, and believe in a round earth. It's why they're so awesome.

Anyway, I have something these guys will have a hell of a time with, but all I have to do is remember which volcano it was that erupted and sent ashes across the entire globe, eventually wrapping around and hitting the volcano again.

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Flat Earth Q&A / South... Always?

« on: January 11, 2007, 03:28:55 PM »

Hm. Alright, acceptable: So what about those people who travelled from the north pole to the south pole who went to my school a few years ago, and had pictures of the whole shebang? (They went along north america to south america to the south pole.)

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Flat Earth Q&A / South... Always?

« on: January 11, 2007, 03:23:52 PM »

I want to know how someone could be sure they were going south.

I mean, if you were following a compass south, at all times, you /should/ hit the ice wall, right?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Crazy People Welcome!(That means you FEers)

« on: January 11, 2007, 01:14:39 PM »

Any mountain in the world you look off of gives a clearly sloping horizon.

Nah, you gotta be higher up.

http://epod.usra.edu/archive/images/main_100_2714.jpg Commercial jet. You just have to fly 40k feet in the air.

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Flat Earth Q&A / ho ho ho

« on: January 11, 2007, 01:10:57 PM »

Well, yeah, but...how do you know it's the ice wall, and not that there's...you know, an antarctica AND a wall?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Hello

« on: January 11, 2007, 12:56:50 PM »

Is it?

Yes!

But it was a nice try...

I can try to refactor the King of All Cosmos into it if you like.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Crazy People Welcome!(That means you FEers)

« on: January 11, 2007, 12:51:53 PM »

There are also very few people that have seen the ice wall.

If you're allowed to take stuff on faith, so are we. Do you have proof the ice wall is not made of delicious candy?

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Flat Earth Q&A / A tiny bit of physics.

« on: January 11, 2007, 12:33:11 PM »

Almost Spherical, Its a complete myth that they are tear drop shaped. RainDrops are TearDrop shaped only for a breif time just after it drops from its source.

Donuts, actually. They're toruses.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Conspiracy as a logical trap.

« on: January 11, 2007, 12:29:15 PM »

Okay. So: We cannot disprove the conspiracy to you, and you cannot prove it to us. So at what point is debating this even worth anyone's while?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: ho ho ho

« on: January 11, 2007, 11:26:34 AM »

    .Prove that there is a conspiracy of thousands of people who make fake pictures and films all day.
     .Give me a suitable reason for this pathetic conspiracy
     .Give me some good solid evidence that the earth is flat
     .Show me the ice wall and then get some photos looking over the edge.
     .Do Not! under any circumstances try to use the bible or the idea of guards. What are they going to shoot you if you go near.
    .Get a brain

Speaking as a firm round earth supporter, you're a frigging moron.

1: There are people who doubt the moon landings, it's pretty much the same idea.
2: They don't really have that one, but...well, I guess there might be a few I can think of.
3: They've got a list of experiments somewhere or something, I saw that after being here 5 minutes.
4: One, the guards.
5: Two: Yes? They've explained how you do it with like 600 guys.
6: Really, despite the fact they're wrong, they've put more thought into this than a lot of people have into the earth being round.