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Flat Earth Q&A / Simple Experiment to Prove RE
« on: January 17, 2007, 06:16:02 PM »
... Look here:

[wikipedia]Solar energy is currently used in a number of applications:

Heat (hot water, building heat, cooking)[/wikipedia]

Solar power includes solar heating. And still, yu need to have a star to get the energy from Solar, star, power anyways. Not a floating spotlight.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Simple Experiment to Prove RE
« on: January 17, 2007, 06:11:26 PM »
It only exists in the RE model, the correct one. that is because the Sun, a STAR, creates energy that we take a s heat and use to turn water to steam and blah blah blah. Anyways, the "sun" you have in FE isn't a STAR, so it can't produce enough energy to do that. Unless it is a star, in which case it's a Neutron Star, which is so dense that it would just completely anihiliate us all if it were as close as you claim it to be.

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The Lounge / The Holocaust didn't happen.
« on: January 17, 2007, 06:07:14 PM »
Quote from: "Red Skull"
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
You have said this already, and you have yet to counter the points I brought up.

I know. And I'm not going to.

I like making statements without backing them up with proof. And so does the Flat Earth Society.

The Holocaust was one big Holohoax.


You're retarded. I can't believe this, but some of the FEers are actuall figuring this out. The Holocaust did happen. And there are way too many proofs for it, almost as many as a Round Earth.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Simple Experiment to Prove RE
« on: January 17, 2007, 06:04:52 PM »
There's no way that would work, because if your Earth were flat, then how would the Sun produce energy without being a star? And if it were a star it would have to be a Neutron Star, and as I've said if that were true we'd all be dead. Pick your theory, don't mix them.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Satellite Imagery - The Reprise Edition
« on: January 17, 2007, 04:40:29 PM »
I know. I was only talking about the modern day.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Simple Experiment to Prove RE
« on: January 17, 2007, 04:34:46 PM »
Yes, but someone would see a satellite being refueled or not anyways. It won't have to land to make this work.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Satellite Imagery - The Reprise Edition
« on: January 17, 2007, 04:30:03 PM »
Since when did anybody deny Area 51's existence? It's a real military base, but the question whether or not it has aliens or tech like that there.

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Flat Earth Q&A / But the world can't be flat...
« on: January 17, 2007, 04:28:06 PM »
Quote from: "Tom Bishop"
Step 1. Read the FAQ

Step 2. Read the book "Earth not a Globe" by Samuel Birley Rowbotham

Step 3. Read the book "One hundred proofs the Earth is not a Globe" by William Carpenter

Step 4. Read the back-issues of Flat Earth News Quarterly

Step 5. Read the book "Flatland" by Edwin A. Abbott

Step 6. Look outside your window


Flatland is a fictional book.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: My Trip To The Ice Wall
« on: January 17, 2007, 04:26:43 PM »
Quote from: "DiegoDraw"
Well, recently, I was talking to my friend who apparently got an interning job at NASA engineering (I'm not sure what she does there, but it was a pretty low-down job). Basically, I was discussing the Flat Earth Theory with her, and she said she was pretty sure she heard something about it walking by this one office, but she didn't know for sure (she said she heard something about needing more guards because too much information is leaking). Well, she goes and talks to her boss, who ends up talking to his boss who was, I guess, one of the conspirators. He told my friend's boss that there was nothing the matter and he believed it, but she didn't. So, she goes and talks to the other guy, who basically breaks into a panic.
Nobody was supposed to hear that meeting and, while she didn't hear all that much, the guy apparently thought that she could've heard more than what she did here. So he offers her anything to get her to shut up. She asks to see the Ice Wall with her friend (me :D). Thing is, they didn't tell ME that I needed to shut up. So, here's my trip to the Ice Wall.

First, here is where I first snuck a picture. We first traveled in a jeep across Antarctica, but I couldn't snap any pictures, because we were in too close of quarters. Anyways, this is a gate down at the very edge of Antarctica. You could just barely make out the Ice Wall from the edge of this wall that went up some seven feet or so. The guards looked really stern, and well-disciplined:



Here is the tower that I had to sleep in before making the trek to and up the ice wall. It was surprisingly comfy, and had good heating:


Here is when we were walking up to the Ice Wall. Those are more guards down at the bottom. I quickly snuck my camera out of my coat to snap this one. Not sure if you can see them in this picture, but those guys had some nasty guns. Also, they had to deactivate some automatic turrets that would shoot people down if they got too close to the ice wall without proper clearance:


Well, the guys didn't come up with us. They thought we were nutballs for wanting to try climbing to the top. So, it gave me time to snap a picture while we were on the Ice Wall. It was getting really chilly at this point:


Then we got to the scariest part. Since all of you crazy Round Earthers keep asking to take a picture of 'space,' I was determined to take it upon myself to do so. There was no real flat surface on the top of the ice wall, so I told my friend to get the rope and lower me down a tiny bit so that I could snap a quick picture. She thought I was crazy, but she did it anyway. Here is what I got:



After that, we were instructed to come down, and she signed a contract saying that neither of us would talk about the Ice Wall. Luckily, I slipped away before I signed it, therefore nothing about it was legal. I've got all the proof I need right here, though. Completely undeniable. I've even got a shot of the space on the other side of the Ice Wall.
You whiny Round Earthers better shut up now. I've gone through a crapload of stuff to go through with this, even evading the law.
My friend told me that the governments haven't located this site or at least don't go to it regularly, so I figured it was safe to post it here. I'm going to try to find some other places where I can get this out without catching their attention (if they figure it out, I'll probably be killed...).


~D-Draw


OMFG that space photo is so obviously painted on!!! LOL it's jagged lines when it should be smooth, and you can tell easily you added it on. Wow. You're so right about the "Ice Wall".

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Flat Earth Q&A / Simple Experiment to Prove RE
« on: January 16, 2007, 03:41:51 PM »
No. I'm saying I will accept the personal accounts of people who have been to space as proof, and the fact that I know from thousands upon thousands of everday occurances that the Earth is round. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY AND IT'S RIDICULOUS TO THINK SO.

I ask you, name one global conspiracy that is actually REAL and that has mountains of evidence proving this.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Simple Experiment to Prove RE
« on: January 16, 2007, 03:38:11 PM »


And any of the other millions of pictures. And any of the personal accounts of any that have been to space. You guys ignore the facts and shield yourselves with the conspiracy. THERE IS NO FLAT EARTH THEORY WITHOUT THE CONSPIRACY.

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Quote from: "MMMM"
Quote from: "Kwaun Se"
Quote from: "Tom Bishop"
The Earth is flat. The moon is a sphere.

Due to gravitational lensing, the moon acts as a spotlight on the earth.


WTF you guys don't believe in gravity correctly anyways, yet you use it in your absurd theory?


No that has been one of the many recent changes to FE. They now think that everything else has gravity except for the earth, the flat sun & flat moon.
Although now Tom has changed it again, & the sun is now a flat star with gravity which somehow through GL produces a parabolic mirror effect that is not a beam.
Simple.


Why do that? It makes sense so much more and is retarded to think that stars aren't round. Why would Earth be any different? Almost all FEers aren't religious, so there is no creationism element in their earth model either.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Simple Experiment to Prove RE
« on: January 16, 2007, 03:29:25 PM »
You misquoted me. Furthermore, why even create a society for this BS anyways? It will only inspire ridicule and hatred of you, and anyone who has that feeling is right in doing so. You deserve to be outcasted, because you will not accept the FACTS.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Simple Experiment to Prove RE
« on: January 16, 2007, 03:25:09 PM »
Listen, I'm sure you don't really have a job anyways, because you being part of FES must make everyone sane person realize you're either crazy or retarded. And that also makes me wonder how the hell you became an engineer. Also, if you really want to think that you are right in believing the Earth is flat and want oh so badly to show us unwashed masses we're wrong, then you should be not only capable to do this but willing.

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Quote from: "Tom Bishop"
The Earth is flat. The moon is a sphere.

Due to gravitational lensing, the moon acts as a spotlight on the earth.


WTF you guys don't believe in gravity correctly anyways, yet you use it in your absurd theory?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Simple Experiment to Prove RE
« on: January 16, 2007, 03:17:41 PM »
Because the Earth has already been proven round, and you are not willing to use an experiment to prove that wrong, you must admit your defeat you crazy bastard.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Simple Experiment to Prove RE
« on: January 16, 2007, 01:06:21 PM »
Fine then. Accept you are wrong. You are too crazy for conventional methods.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Simple Experiment to Prove RE
« on: January 16, 2007, 01:02:21 PM »
Ok, as you FEers claim to be over 1,000 strong, and as I can see you are diverse enough in terms of countries, here's a simple experiment to prove the Earth is round. Now, you claim satellites are actually "stratellites", which means they are really just advanced airplanes and as such must refuel? And so you say further that this happens when they are not visible to you. Try this:

Step 1: Gather enough of you members to encircle the globe and keep watch on the "stratellites".

Step 2: Make sure you have communications equipment that can't be tampered with easily and will reach you all.

Step 3: As you each confirm the satellite passes, check in on the radio, and record your answer.

Step 4: When the satellite gets back to being visible for the first member, end the experiment.

Step 5: Shoot yourselves for just proving your own crackpot theory wrong.

Another thing to try:

Step 1: Complete the same steps of the previous experiment but this time watch the Sun.

Step 2: This will be much easier to do because you don't actually need to see the sun itself, only its light. Also, you can see the bullets as you load them into your gun.

Now, there is no way to refute the answer this will show, and you yourselves must do it. This is because you are crazily paranid and only rely on personal experience. FOCUS ON THIS TOPIC NO GAY POSTS BISHOP OR MIDGARD!

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Flat Earth Q&A / Another Proof
« on: January 11, 2007, 04:47:59 PM »
I have to because you guys alsways go off topic and post crazy nonsense after a while.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Another Proof
« on: January 11, 2007, 04:44:55 PM »
I can prove they aren't fake by showing them to you. That means they are real. And the whole idea behind the conspiracy is ludicrous. For no single and binding reason they have, which means there would be splinter groups in the conspiracy. And the way a planet is shaped would have to be noticed in the SPACE AGE. And I can prove we have been to space. Take a plane to follow a satellite day and night refueling, as you assume they do, so that you will see it continually stays in the orbit around earth, and is not being refueled. Or make a chain of people around teh Earth to report in if they can see it or not. that way you can say conclusively if there is a conspiracy you crazy bastards.

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Flat Earth Q&A / An Annoyance That I'm Sick Of
« on: January 11, 2007, 04:39:48 PM »
Quote from: "EvilToothpaste"
No matter what your opinion is Kwuan, Beast is still correct about the way the church deals with sexual education in Africa (hell, in America they do similarly false sex ed programs).


Reproduction is meant for just that. And so there is no point in condoms.

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Flat Earth Q&A / An Annoyance That I'm Sick Of
« on: January 11, 2007, 04:20:18 PM »
Quote from: "beast"
Actually the evidence of Marc Hauser, who is a Harvard biologist, is that everybody of any religious belief or culture (including atheists) has exactly the same core moral beliefs.  This is true for over 95% of the population of any given group.  Where the morals differ is in who the people define as fitting particular groups.  For example I believe that all people are worth saving.  You, probably due to your religious beliefs, believe that Africans are not worth saving.

I'm an atheist and you're a Catholic.  I think our views on Africa demonstrate the moral differences between atheism and religion perfectly.

Source for the work by Marc Hauser

edit: To be clear on this point:  I think we should try to save all of humanity.  You think we shouldn't care about the people of an entire continent and indeed, that it's ok to take actions that lead to their painful deaths. - Atheism morals vs Religious morals.


Hey retard, Africa is MY pov, not my religion's. And all posted was claerly stated as my pov. I even stated God would consider me a bad person.

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Flat Earth Q&A / An Annoyance That I'm Sick Of
« on: January 10, 2007, 04:40:20 PM »
Quote from: "beast"
Quote from: "Kwaun Se"
Meat Monkey, I am not a follower of evangelists. Unless you consider the Pope an Evangelist, I am a Catholic. Also, that was offensive to several people I am sure. And there are quite a few I have seen that say something relating to religion offensively, mainly posts by members replying to topics.


You know what I find offensive?  Catholics going around Africa telling people that if they use condoms then their genitals will fall off.  I don't just find that offensive, I find it morally abhorrent.  That occurs in your name and in the name of what you stand for.  I think calling you any number of names is incomparable to the evils committed by the Catholic church.


Oh please. Like anyone actually cares about the people in Africa. It's basically a dead continent now. So much disease and famine, and yet they keep spreading STDs, and having civil wars. Not my problem. And it's the principle of a religion that is good. No religion is bad. But the rreason Atheism and Agnosticism are bad is because they base themselves on the needs of people, not of moral values. Therefore, in their quest for knowledge, they indulge all of the bad of religion and none of the good. People by nature are literally bad. Original Sin is what we call it, you probably call it instinct, or some other crap. Whatever.

Would God say I'm a bad person? No, because he created me. But if God came back as an impure instead of Jesus, would he call me a bad person? Absolutely. To do the important things you have to get your hands dirty.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: An Annoyance That I'm Sick Of
« on: January 10, 2007, 04:10:38 PM »
Quote from: "skeptical scientist"
Quote from: "Kwaun Se"
Ok, I'm really getting pissed that people are equating Christains with the FE theory. I doubt even a billionth of a percent of Crhistians are FE sided. Too many RE's say that everything RE is atheist, when it's not. Nothing about the RE theory... no fact, says that people can't be Crhistian and RE. I am Christian and I think FE is bull. Huge bull. So don't make any more topics about how you have to be a Christian to be FE. It's really offensive.

You are quite correct. Almost no Christians are flat-earthers. In fact, many of them think that evolution actually occurred, and some would even go so far as to say that Jesus was not born of a virgin. However, the amount of Christians who think that evolution is a myth perpetuated by the scientific establishment is appallingly large, and the amount who think that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth is even more appallingly large, given that this is a scientific impossibility. So how is unjustly equating Christianity with flat-earthism any more offensive than somewhat justly equating it with anti-evolutionism, or entirely justly equating it with virgin-birthism.


"many" cannot be very many. The majority of Christians are Catholics, and we deny evolution. Orthodox doesn't either, and they're in second. Major protestant churches also deny evolution. Maybe, "a few" would be appropriate here.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Crazy People Welcome!(That means you FEers)
« on: January 10, 2007, 01:04:38 PM »
I can prove they aren't fake by showing them to you. That means they are real. And the whole idea behind the conspiracy is ludicrous. For no single and binding reason they have, which means there would be splinter groups in the conspiracy. And the way a planet is shaped would have to be noticed in the SPACE AGE. And I can prove we have been to space. Take a plane to follow a satellite day and night refueling, as you assume they do, so that you will see it continually stays in the orbit around earth, and is not being refueled. Or make a chain of people around teh Earth to report in if they can see it or not. that way you can say conclusively if there is a conspiracy you crazy bastards.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Crazy People Welcome!(That means you FEers)
« on: January 10, 2007, 11:35:18 AM »
The Earth was in fact, PROVEN to be round when we took the first photographs of it from space. The only reason that you can have this society is because you claim the conspiracy has faked this, which it did not. For a FACT.

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Quote from: "dysfunction"
Quote from: "Kwaun Se"
For the billionth time, your entire theory rests on that retarded conspiracy. Without it you don't have anything.


Rather, the conspiracy hypothesis rests on the entire theory.


No, because the Earth was in fact, PROVEN to be round when we took the first photographs of it from space. The only reason that you can have this society is because you claim the conspiracy has faked this, which it did not. For a FACT.

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Quote from: "TheEngineer"
It's a government contractror!  You for some reason keep ignoring THAT fact.


BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER. THAT'S BECAUSE THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY DUMBASS.

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The Lounge / Dogmatic Atheism
« on: January 10, 2007, 11:28:56 AM »
Quote from: "dysfunction"
Quote from: "Kwaun Se"
Quote from: "thedigitalnomad"
You're so blind you don't even know who is on your side.


Blind? I respect all theistic religion. Everything else is wrong and therefore must be destroyed.


...and you claim atheists are close-minded.


My view is that all religions are ok, but anti-, or non-religions must be destroyed. And that's very close minded, and I'm proud of it because I won't be a homo if I don't become an atheist. Stupid homos is what atheists are, and on top of that they are tree-hugging liberals.

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Quote from: "Tom Bishop"
Space Ship One is a fabrication by the government in response to lingering doubts of its space program. The idea was to show that "any joe" could reach space. In reality the "Space Ship" is nothing more than a high altitude aeroplane like the Space Shuttle.


WTF you gay FE people. If you're going to make crazy and wrong theories, then at least spell correctly! AEROPLANE = NOTHING
AIRPLANE = THINGY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

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