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Flat Earth Q&A / Are there images available a the ice-wall?

« on: January 03, 2006, 09:00:09 AM »

besides all your pretty *cough-photoshopped* pictures that you have,

What makes you think your pictures are not altered?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Round earth Gravity vs. Flat earth "Gravity"

« on: January 03, 2006, 08:46:57 AM »

your only fault, mundi, is trusting what you've heard

You're saying you don't, and that you've got proof of everything that you say/have personal experience of a flat earth, like having visited the famed ice wall around the plate?

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Flat Earth Q&A / And i thought the earth was flat....

« on: January 03, 2006, 08:45:00 AM »

well you're going a bit overboard, but yes, there is a government conspiracy, that all you weak-minded morons foolheartidly believe

Then how do you explain the other 180 something countries in the world?

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Flat Earth Q&A / More evidence why the earth is a freaking round ball.

« on: January 03, 2006, 08:40:43 AM »

I thought there would be far more religious zeal on this forum though...

I'm not very religious, but feel free to continue the discussion anyways.

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Flat Earth Q&A / More evidence why the earth is a freaking round ball.

« on: January 03, 2006, 08:39:43 AM »

This entire argument is fairly one sided, mostly because the people defending the flat earth theory seem mentally handicapped.

widget, you're correct, no argument there.

He was just proving that you were wrong.  If you agree with him, you've invalidated your previous post, and should probably just concede that the earth is spherical, but no, you go on:

I do admit his arguments are, as far as I can see, valid. However, I had slept for about 5 hours previous week, so I wasn't thinking straight at the time. widget and I are (at least as far as I can tell), not speaking about the exact same arguments.

Good for you, you're an idiot!

That's rich, but unfortunately a fallacy (ad hominem).

If you can't offer evidence to back your statements up, you should shut up, because you're statements aren't worth making.

I didn't offer evidence to back my statements up, simply because I didn't make any statements.

While we do have people that have gone AROUND the world, you know, minus the part where he fell off. You can't argue that

And I didn't argue that.

He's saying you can't argue against his point, not that you did.  Apparantly you can't argue in english either.

As far as English goes, want me to start with your grammatical errors?

widget, what I meant was running water, which wasn't obvious, I agree.

Ok, so now you're disagreeing with widget, who you said you agreed with at the beigining.

I never said I agreed with him, I said that there was nothing wrong with his arguments. Apparently, you can't argue in English, so that makes two of us. Also, this was edited in afterwards, when I had cleared my head a bit (remember I told you about my lack of sleep), and I didn't want to change the original post, so I just added some extra at the end.

But the fact of the matter is: it makes no difference whether the water is running or not, the substance is there, it's merely our proximity to the sun which causes us to have running water, so the "point" you made in your first post is invalid.

Like I said, the point I was making might not have been clear (that what I actually meant was running water, which so far has not been found on any other planet). My point still stands.

No, the entire point was that it appears round from any angle, meaning it must be a sphere.

Yes, but we "threw all of that out the window", which means we can't see it from any other angle than from earth, meaning we have but one side to play with.

But you  decided to try to be clever and state : "if we are to throw away everything that proves this (satellites etc), what do we get? We get a round-looking thing up there, always facing the same side towards us. That's what we can see. And if we threw away all the equipment to prove the moon is round, how can this be an "unquestionable fact"? "
Which could almost be a valid point, if he had ever stated that we'd throw away everything to prove that the moon is round, except he didn't he said we'd throw away

Maybe you missed this quote?

Ok retards let me settle this once and for all.

You think the earth is fact despite the given evidence of gravity.
You clame you can only see the earth is flat given the fact you can only see flat infront of you, this is disproved by being higher in the air, allowing to see a curve in the horison.
Also, satalites rotate around the earth taking pictures, showing indeed the earth is flat.

Throwing all that out the window, just for shits and giggles, let's say all of the previously stated evidence is just not there.

I've highlighted the parts you might have missed, for your convenience.

You thinkthe earth is fact despite the given evidence of gravity.
You clame you can only see the earth is flat given the fact you can only see flat infront of you, this is disproved by being higher in the air, allowing to see a curve in the horison.
Also, satalites rotate around the earth taking pictures, showing indeed the earth is flat.

That evidence, take a telescope (something he didn't mention), and you can still observe that the moon is round.   And then you concede that we have pictures of the dark side, and that, yes, they also show the moon to be round. Proving his original point.

Yes, but like you've already seen by now, we've "thrown all that out the window, just for shits and giggles", so we don't have telescopes nor pics of the dark side. Now what?

Don't argue with him if you agree you idiot

Why not? Also, that's another ad hom. Be a grown up and leave the name calling out of this.

and especially not if you can't back up your horribly flawed points

I've backed it up now. You're welcome.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Well, this would do it for me

« on: January 02, 2006, 11:10:08 AM »

And your point is?... The point of this picture was to show that day and night aren't "optical illusions" as many of the flat-earthers say, and even this article concedes that it does show the day-night terminator line.

Yes it does. However what was not 100% clear (in my opinion) is that it is in fact a manufactured image.

Also, the facts about how it was taken is explained on that page (as opposed to it being taken by the Columbia crew).

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Flat Earth Q&A / Well, this would do it for me

« on: January 02, 2006, 10:58:59 AM »

http://www.snopes.com/photos/sunset.asp

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Flat Earth Q&A / More evidence why the earth is a freaking round ball.

« on: January 02, 2006, 10:37:36 AM »

widget, you're correct, no argument there.

jgoogz

The only thing you offer is that you can't see it's round
...
Your evidence is no evidence which isn't a point/case/fact at all.

Au contraire. I haven't offered a single piece of evidence whatsoever.

While we do have people that have gone AROUND the world, you know, minus the part where he fell off. You can't argue that

And I didn't argue that.

Edited to add:
widget, what I meant was running water, which wasn't obvious, I agree.
Also, as far as the moon goes, there are pics of the other side. But the original point was that we see that it's round. Sure, someone who looks at the moon fairly often does notice a difference in the wobble, but that's not true for the common person (I've never even thought about it until I learned it in school). Call it nit-picking, because it probably is.

Also, it's wonderful that I always know what to post AFTER I've posted  :roll:

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: More evidence why the earth is a freaking round ball.

« on: January 01, 2006, 08:19:55 AM »

You think the earth is fact despite the given evidence of gravity.

I'm not sure if I got you wrong here, but gravity does not prove anything to be round.

You clame you can only see the earth is flat given the fact you can only see flat infront of you, this is disproved by being higher in the air, allowing to see a curve in the horison.

You can also see this effect on sea level, the classic example of a boat sinking below the horizon.

Throwing all that out the window, just for shits and giggles, let's say all of the previously stated evidence is just not there.

We know for a SOLID UNQUESTIONABLE ACT that the moon is a fucking sphere.

Actually, if we are to throw away everything that proves this (satellites etc), what do we get? We get a round-looking thing up there, always facing the same side towards us. That's what we can see. And if we threw away all the equipment to prove the moon is round, how can this be an "unquestionable fact"?

So are all the other planets, and the Sun too. So, you're telling me that you think all the other planets out there are spheres, but we're a fucking flat disc?

Why would everything have to be the same? Earth has water, something which (as far as I know) have not yet been found on another planet or on the moon. So there is no running water out there, but it is here? Now how can that be?

I think this website is fake just to give people who have a brain heart trouble.

That's no excuse to be a jackass.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / The

« on: December 31, 2005, 03:51:13 AM »

 Modern science is most irrelevant, especially with reguard to having any kind perspective of the whole thing.

The "perspective" in this case is objectivity, something which is impossible if you base your experimental results (or anything for that matter) on traditions, religion, or any kind of per-determined mindset.

Modern science which goes against thousands of years of tradition and genuine science from every religion and tradition everywhere worldwide is the actual abnormality.

Appeal to tradition, and as such, a fallacy.

Edited to fix quote

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Flat Earth Information Repository / The Plane Truth

« on: December 31, 2005, 02:55:58 AM »

Admiral Richard B. Byrd's Diary (Feb. Mar. 1947 )

I personally love that story. It sends the imagination spinning. However, it's been disproved and discounted again and again ad nauseum.

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Flat Earth Information Repository / "The Flat-out Truth"

« on: December 31, 2005, 02:53:08 AM »

the earht is round, and im right. proof? who needs proof?

Everyone should require proof. Making your mind up before you have even glimpsed at the available proof (or lack thereof) is called blind fate.

flat earthers dont count,

Everybody "counts".

their the ones that cause the world to say USA is stupid. who else needs proof?

You're proving the earth is round with that? Besides being totally irrelevant, it's a weak argument.