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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The Reason Flat Earth Theory is Rediculus!
« on: March 17, 2014, 11:32:39 AM »
You can't even spell ridiculous (sorry, had to jab ya there lol).

Ok, in all seriousness this whole flat earth thing is entirely new to me. I head about it in a song by Bad Religion but didn't know it was a real thing until today. So I've been looking over all the threads and models and I can't believe everyone is making this as complicated as they have. In today's day and age with all of our modern conveniences and vehicles this should be incredibly simple to physically prove. I've read how people think photos from space are fake, and perspectives are distorted, etc, and I can understand people who don't believe things unless they see it with their own eyes, so why not get a group of equally mixed FE's and non FE's and take a boat/plane trip out to the great Antarctic wall and see for yourselves. Either they ALL see the wall with plenty of time to turn around our they ALL end up on the opposite side of the planet because the looped it. Or maybe on a smaller scale compare distances between two southern points on a globe AND on a flat earth model. Determine how long it would take to fly from one point to the other at a constant speed. Even if there are variables like wind or weather those two distances should vary so greatly on both maps that it would be simple to determine which map is correct. These aren't physically impossible options, even if cost is a factor both parties could split costs. I'm sure if this was their big chance to prove their argument once and for all they'd be willing to chip in.

I can completely see why both camps feel the way they do about their stance. I mean if the Earth were round then a plane flying straight would start to gain altitude and eventually fly into space because the Earth curves downward being a sphere. Also we always see the same face of the moon, so by flat earth logic then the moon must be flat as well.

Conversely if the world were flat then it would be daytime in the entire world at more or less the same time but it would never be daytime at one end of the earth and dark at another. If the sun is above a flat earth then it would light up the whole square to some degree. It also doesn't explain how far you'd have to dig before you fell through the other side, or what's even on the other side in the first place.

Theories and beliefs are all fine and good but I keep seeing laypeople throw out this theory and that law just trying to out intellect each other but the only way to get definite proof is to just go out and do it. See for yourselves. it either is or isn't flat and that's the only way for even the most close minded person to know for sure. They may not like the answer but that doesn't mean its wrong. Until then everyone should just shut up and stop trying to create converts, just live your life, think as you will, because when we die it won't matter if the earth is flat, round, double helix, or a pimple on a dog's ass.

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Given that we have documented distances between places on earth and their locations it is not possible to put those on a flat earth model and maintain the distances and relative positions.
It is if the flat Earth model has been transferred onto a globe map, which I believe it has.
Distances on a globe earth have been proven to be correct.  There is no flat earth map.
They may have been proven to be correct but there's nothing to say that they aren't derived from a flat Earth standpoint and simply put out as globe distances. After all, you don't navigate using a globe map, it's a flat map.

Actually that can't be true. If global distances were taken from Flat Earth standpoints then the following would occur: the globe distances would be so greatly distorted that the southernmost tips of Africa and South America would be much farther apart than they appear on a globe. The true test of either theory would be to measure the distance from both locations, calculate the time it would take to travel from one location to the other at a fixed speed, and then test that speed and see if the trip was made in the estimated time or if it was a much longer or shorter trip.

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