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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Lets keep the story straight.
« on: May 13, 2011, 05:45:10 AM »

"Gravity" does not exist. The causes (and mechanism) of "gravitation" is the subject of debate among FE believers (and among RE scientists for that matter).


It says in the FAQ that tides are caused by gravity.  So for those who don't believe in gravity, how are tides caused?  This problem is not addressed in the FAQ section.

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That is the most ridiculous graphic ever -- apparently the moon only controls the tides when aligned with the sun?

Speaking of solar tides, why is there no high tide at noon everyday?



Because noon isn't when the sun is closest to the earth, just when our part of the earth is facing directly toward it.  When the moon is aligned with the sun there are higher tides; only slightly because the moon exerts much more force on the earth than the sun (being closer).  When the moon is perpendicular to the sun tides are reduced, again only a little bit.

However that's not the point. 

The graphic was just intended to illustrate my point:  The high tide moves around the earth.  It doesn't reverse direction; it doesn't stop.  It also moves across Antarctica from one side to the other.  This can't be explained with any flat earth model; it only works with a spheroid.  The effect of the sun further complicates it.  It's similar to the problem with day and night but harder to explain.

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It is impossible for an object in space to exist perfectly flat due to gravity.
This article can do the best justice to the idea:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-are-planets-round

I'm interested in your responses. Do you not believe in Gravity? If so, what causes us to stay fixed to the Earth's surface, whether it be round or flat?


Yes, they do believe in gravity.  From the FAQ:
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Q: "What about tides?"
A: The gravitational pull of the celestial bodies provides tidal effects. Others believe that there is an object called the Sub-moon that sits underneath the Earth. The moon causes the tides, and the Sub-moon balances out the effect.

Which means that gravity has a measurable force.  I would love to see one of the "researchers" here show with calculations how the various gravity vectors from celestial bodies or the "sub moon" produce the tides.  You can't, because the tidal action is a fluid, circular motion.  Project this onto a flat surface:  ;)


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