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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat

« on: November 16, 2005, 12:23:52 AM »

Presure doesnt create ice.
Ice forms when the temprature decreases and the two hydrogen atoms move and approach symetry. The freezing point is just the threshold at which this happens. Ice is actually less dense than water.

Furthermore, water underpressure actually prevents this. Its a lot colder at the bottom of the ocean than the freezing point of water, but there is no ice down there.

Good job in saying like the exact opposite of what is true. :?

Desity:
water 1.000  x 10^3 (kg/m^3)
Ice     0.917 x 10^3 (kg/m^3)

If your way is true, ice would form bottom up, which it don't. Ice forms on the top and works its way downward.

Now, quit side tracking and explain your model.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat

« on: November 15, 2005, 08:36:26 PM »

Because water is not being pulled to sides but straight down? This is why you have higher presure at the bottom.
Okay, its being pulled to the sides to, but its equal on all sides so it negates it (exception following). The only thing not negated is straight towards the center of gravity.

And water does slosh around due to gravity, its called tides. When being pulled to a side is not so equal to the other side.

Do you know how much freaking pressure there would be on that ICE wall of yours if that was only thing keeping water on earth?
I cant even fathom it.

Take the mass of the ocean water times by gravity constant and divide it by the area of your ICE wall which is abismally small compared to the ocean mass. It would be bull dozed off the earth so freaking fast its not funny.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Thank you sir, here is some more

« on: November 15, 2005, 12:16:56 PM »

Thank you for your support, although my arguments dont seem to have the backing of most of the room, I can understand it. All their information comes from textbooks and lectures, those come from academic institutions.

What arguments do you have? All you say is the government has doctored evidence. You cant even give any sane motive for doing so. Give some evidence of flat earth (like a working model). Please explain, in your model how day/night cycle, and gravity works. You could imagine how one would work, but it would break the others logic.

All the examples I gave that point to a sphere earth can be observed by anyone with no high tech gadgets whatsoever.

Someone here said it would cost 3 trillion dollers to push the round earth theroy, and that everyone is invloved. I will tell you that only a select few people are involved the coverup.  The select few would be NASA (the astronauts) [Government Run] and governmet run manufacturing companies that produce the doctered products and products to doctor evidence, and whomever else is deemed nessisary

This is just nonsense. You can't even think of any good motive for doing this. And it would be completly impossible anyway.

The educators are caught in a web of deceit, that has continued over time. They are teaching a lie and do not know it. The Government and security organisation have done such a good job at doing this that the lie is now self taught.  You dont need 3 trillion dollers when people pay for the lie to be taught.  I can understand your point of view.  You try to explane it with your knowlege but in all reality you have never seen the evidence of a round earth.

See any of my points in my post for evidence. Please explain them instead of just throwing out the government cover up card.

And the government does lie. Abu Grabe, war in iraq, watergate. These are all things that the government has tried to get away with but have been caught. It takes people like me to do the work for the many. I know the truth and so do you.  Deep down you want to believe me but you have been held back by your deceved logic.  Academia can only take you so far. Sometimes you have to trust you gut.
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Unrelated nonsense.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Proof that the Earth is indeed flat

« on: November 14, 2005, 09:27:20 PM »

Have you ever been to the ocean? Look out, you can see the curve of the earth. Its quite cleary visible.

Do you realize that from your point of reference, the earth would appear flat because the radius is so large? But just because it appears so, doesnt make it so. Cleary evident from other points of reference i.e space.

...  when we all know if you look into the distance the earth looks flat.

Do you know basic math?

Graph this line
-0.00113636(36 repeating) rise over a  63360 run

It appears perfectly flat don't it?
Actually its an approximate to the curvature of the earth seen through the perspective of our eyes when you look into the horizon of the ocean.



Why can't i see Wisconsin when i go to the coast of lake michigan?
Because i can only see 12 miles out approximately due to the curvature of the earth and its 90 miles away (from where I'm at in michigan anyway).
If it was flat, i could definately see it. If you believe the world is flat, than explain why i cant see it please.

Don't bring up the, not being able to see through that much atomosphere card either. Becuase that don't make any sense. As i can, see stars just above the horizon. Which would mean, that light from that star would pass through way more atomosphere, than light from wisonsin.
And,  IF the world was flat, then light from a star on the horizon would actually have to pass through tredmendoulsy MORE atomosphere than in the sperical model when you think about it.

If the world is flat, then so has to be the sun, the moon, pluto, everything else right?

Draw a good looking circle on piece of paper, and set it on your kitchen table and look straight down at it. The circle looks like a circle. Now, walk ten feet away and look at it, and it will no longer appear to be a circle to you but an elipse.

If the sun to was flat disc aswell, and it appears to be a circle in the sky to me, then by default, it would HAVE to appear to be an elipse to someone far away from me. Right?
Now, look at the outline of a sphere from near and far away. The outline still looks like a circle. Unless you are on the sphere and infintely small compared to the spere. I.E you on the earth.

Explain, how the day/night cycle works in a flat world model please.
You can't because its an impossible model to duplicate considering, it appears to rise (sun up) and fall (sun down) at different times at each point on the globe. And it appears to be a circle throught the whole day.

How can there be day on one side of the globe, and night on the other?

Explain please the lunar and solar eclipses.

We could only observe a curved shadow on the moon if the world was a disc and was pointing towards the moon. Since the world is flat. The whole world would be in nighttime (ie tilted towards the moon, and away from the sun). And we would all observe lunar eclipse at the same time and it would end at the same time.

If we are in a airplane at 10 thousand feet and are looking down to the horizon explain why we arent seeing the whole globe? If its because of atomsphere or whatever and land continues on well past the horizon, we just cant see it. Explain why we can see the sun rise through this horizon? Wasnt it suppose to be ground there that we couldnt see?
Is the sun rising through ground? What if in YOUR point of view, i am on the horizon where the sun is rising. Did the sun just rise right through me? But to me, the sun has already risen.