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Flat Earth General / Re: Why do RE believers come here?

« on: January 22, 2011, 08:54:45 PM »

I was just wondering why do so many RE people come to this forum and talk all that ish all the time with their stupid insults and empty challenges? Then something hit me, RE'rs are not sure themselves about the shape of our world, so they are intrigued by the flat earth theory. They are too proud to admit that flat earth makes perfect sense, so they come to this forum and talk garbage. Hey guys guess what? If you think FE is a dumb idea and that only idiots believe in it, guess what it makes you when you join this forum and reply in every thread?  

Speaking only for myself, I heard a lecture dealing with how the evolution/creation debate is often perceived as an either/or dichotomy, when, in fact, it is a question of where along a continuum of ideas a person falls, with the two extremes being philosophical naturalism and flat earthers. Until then, I did not believe it possible that there were people in the United States in the 21st century that actually believe this tripe. Granted, there have always been, and always will be, a small number of hapless simpletons which will believe basically anything, no matter how whacky, if it's cloaked in a dialogue intended to make them feel like they are somehow part of a small cadre of the enlightened which have had their eyes opened to truth which few realize, but, the number of flat earthers was said to be in the hundreds, and it seemed impossible to me that there could be so many people afflicted with the starkest ignorance imaginable concerning so many different disciplines. I'm still not convinced that people professing this belief actually believe it, and I am nearly convinced that the people promulgating this belief definitely do not believe it themselves, but are merely charlatans of the same order as any carnival huckster found behind the pulpit in tent revivals, shamelessly taking advantage of witless fools.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Zetetics-Happier People?

« on: January 16, 2011, 09:39:58 PM »

So you admit that the Earth's flatness is a fact?

When you say that the earth is flat, that is a statement of fact. A statement of fact can, however, be wrong. If you say 2+2=7, that would be a statement of fact. This is not offering an opinion, it is a definitive statement of some state of reality. It is also incorrect. Not all statements of fact are true. But, you seem to have overlooked this question  that I asked you earlier.
"Just out of curiousity, how exactly did you discover this, given that it takes more than twice as long to fly to Melbourne Australia from London than it does from Buenos Aires, and, how neither one of those trips takes you over the North Pole?"   

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Flat Earth General / Re: Conspiracy motivation

« on: January 16, 2011, 03:33:15 PM »

I work in the industry (cellular / two-way), there are towers EVERYWHERE.

Did you think it a coincidence that "GPS" suddenly came into popular use right when
all those "Cellular" towers went up?

Coincidences don't happen - cell towers ARE the GPS signal-senders.
You can't "Triangulate" with moving transmitters zipping around the sky.   

You work in the industry and you did not know this?


No wonder you get talked down to. 

You are missing the most interesting story. What would be fascinating to hear about is how a person this deranged could ever manage to secure employment in the first place.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Plate Tectonics?

« on: January 16, 2011, 02:12:20 AM »

James, the nearest coastline is Southern California, its about 270 miles from Las Vegas to the ocean. Dinosaurs traveled that far from the sea with corals in their jaws? LOL

No, I would imagine the put them in baskets, which they strapped to the backs of pack animals (probably saurolophus).

I'm guessing that you don't say things like this at job interviews or first dates.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Conspiracy motivation

« on: January 16, 2011, 01:33:08 AM »

To say that gps does not exist is an extremely nonsensical thing to say. Of course it exists. It is seen daily by millions in their cars. There is an actual, tangible device that you can hold in your hand. Not only does this device in the dash of my car exist in the sense that there actually is a device in the dash of my car, and is not just an hallucination, it also tells me how to get where I want to go from where I am at the time I ask for directions. If what you said was just a poorly thought out way to imply that it's just another piece of the puzzle in some vast conspiricy, you would first have to backtrack and say that this is what you meant, and then offer some plausible explaination for how this device does what it so obviously does. How does this device determine my location if not from the air?

GPS exists, of course it does.   I dont think he meant to say what he said - the point is, satellites are NOT what makes GPS work.  THAT is part of the conspiracy.

GPS works by triangulation, the "GPS" signals come from towers all over the planet.   It works just like the wiki page says in a mathematical way - but there are to "birds" in the sky.   It's all done from beacons right here on the earth.

It's one thing to have you say that this is what he meant, but, I would kind of like to see the person that made this poorly formulated statement agree that it was, in fact, a poorly formulated way of saying what he really meant, and then produce a clearer version of what he meant. Nobody can say what he meant better than he can. Then we can get into what the purpose of this 'conspiracy' might be. Before anybody decides to offer a cryptically murmured 'power' as the explanation, and then folks begin to nod knowingly to each other, let's keep in mind the fact that this answer would be equally plausible as an explanation for any conceivable conspiracy theory, no matter how utterly implausible that theory might be. If an answer can explain everything, it actually explains nothing. Precisely what sort of power? How does having people believe the earth is configured differently from how it really is facilitate the acquisition of this power? Why would this power be unattainable if everyone knew 'the truth'? What form does this power take, and how is it wielded? Try to be a little more detailed with the answer than just some knee-jerk catch phrase.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Conspiracy motivation

« on: January 16, 2011, 01:14:29 AM »

Mounted along the ice wall in Antarctica where they are unseen and protected. Its why your TV satellite dish points south.

Why do they point north in the southern hemisphere?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Zetetics-Happier People?

« on: January 16, 2011, 01:05:20 AM »

My life was incomplete before I discovered that the Earth was flat.

Just out of curiousity, how exactly did you discover this, given that it takes more than twice as long to fly to Melbourne Australia from London than it does from Buenos Aires, and, how neither one of those trips takes you over the North Pole? 

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Flat Earth General / Re: Zetetics-Happier People?

« on: January 15, 2011, 01:19:18 AM »

How happy an idea might make someone is not evidence of how true the idea is. There are countless examples of ideas which are completely void of truth content, but, believing the idea makes some people happy.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Conspiracy motivation

« on: January 15, 2011, 01:05:15 AM »

The IRS are part of the conspiracy.

That makes a hell of a lot more than 445 people. Also, it seems to assume that one person is enough to contrrl the entire GPS industry.

GPS does not exist. It is a creation of the conspiracy.

To say that gps does not exist is an extremely nonsensical thing to say. Of course it exists. It is seen daily by millions in their cars. There is an actual, tangible device that you can hold in your hand. Not only does this device in the dash of my car exist in the sense that there actually is a device in the dash of my car, and is not just an hallucination, it also tells me how to get where I want to go from where I am at the time I ask for directions. If what you said was just a poorly thought out way to imply that it's just another piece of the puzzle in some vast conspiricy, you would first have to backtrack and say that this is what you meant, and then offer some plausible explaination for how this device does what it so obviously does. How does this device determine my location if not from the air?