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Should probably read around a little more, or contact the people you were told to contact. Either way, have fun.

Two hours and you haven't got a programme organised yet?

Gee, that sounds genuine.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: NASA
« on: August 17, 2009, 06:10:51 AM »

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Because we KNOW nasa LIES

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Climate change on a flat earth
« on: August 15, 2009, 04:50:31 AM »
Anyways, climate change is totally not happening because that would mean a disruption of Hadley cells, mictic systems, and oscillations, especially the southern oscillation. This is ridiculous because we all know that non-anthropogenic fishkills are on a downward trend, cyclonic phenomena have been reduced, and weather patterns are less extreme.

Wha...?  Ha, I understood less than half of that!  Well done good sir.  But could I trouble you for a somewhat watered-down version?

Good to see more geologists here, I'm still at uni so no specialist subject just yet :)


See! That PROVES it! GW is LIES! and NASA are LYING to us ALL!


I'm not a geologist, just the progeny of a geologist. I'm more of a general environmental scientist and entomologist.

Alright, Hadley cells are air and water currents that run based on the Coriolis effect every thirty degrees of latitude dependent on temperature. In other words, the summer heats up water at the equator for the Northern Hemisphere, the warm water flows in a clockwise direction up to about 30 degrees, and then cycles back. This water then warms up the water at 30-60 degrees, rinse and repeat. Obviously, the heat transfer reduces further up. This explains the trade winds and is the driving force behind the jet stream. It also creates cells of water in which the middle point is actually higher than sea level. You'd think there would be a meniscus effect going on in the ocean, but it's much less pronounced and even the opposite in some areas.

Mictic systems are water systems that exhibit thermal turnover with seasonal change. Water heats up during the spring, picking up nutrients bringing them to a photic zone, and life begins. Opposite for fall. Only true for dimictic systems, although monomictic are common in non-temperate areas.

Oscillations are similar to mictic systems, but true for the ocean. While the ocean is actually a mictic system, the oscillations have greater global impact. El Ni?o and La Ni?a are examples.

Fishkills are often associated with hypo- or anoxic environments, usually associated with eutrophication and heat-stagnation. Fishkills are exactly what the sound like.

Cyclonic phenomena are just your basic wind-weather stuff: tornadoes, typhoons, and hurricanes. It is predicted that cyclones will become more common, although not necessarily more severe, during global warming.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Climate change on a flat earth
« on: August 15, 2009, 03:49:03 AM »
Anyways, climate change is totally not happening because that would mean a disruption of Hadley cells, mictic systems, and oscillations, especially the southern oscillation. This is ridiculous because we all know that non-anthropogenic fishkills are on a downward trend, cyclonic phenomena have been reduced, and weather patterns are less extreme.

Wha...?  Ha, I understood less than half of that!  Well done good sir.  But could I trouble you for a somewhat watered-down version?

Good to see more geologists here, I'm still at uni so no specialist subject just yet :)

See! That PROVES it! GW is LIES! and NASA are LYING to us ALL!

I'm not a geologist, just the progeny of a geologist. I'm more of a general environmental scientist and entomologist.

Alright, Hadley cells are air and water currents that run based on the Coriolis effect every thirty degrees of latitude dependent on temperature. In other words, the summer heats up water at the equator for the Northern Hemisphere, the warm water flows in a clockwise direction up to about 30 degrees, and then cycles back. This water then warms up the water at 30-60 degrees, rinse and repeat. Obviously, the heat transfer reduces further up. This explains the trade winds and is the driving force behind the jet stream. It also creates cells of water in which the middle point is actually higher than sea level. You'd think there would be a meniscus effect going on in the ocean, but it's much less pronounced and even the opposite in some areas.

Mictic systems are water systems that exhibit thermal turnover with seasonal change. Water heats up during the spring, picking up nutrients bringing them to a photic zone, and life begins. Opposite for fall. Only true for dimictic systems, although monomictic are common in non-temperate areas.

Oscillations are similar to mictic systems, but true for the ocean. While the ocean is actually a mictic system, the oscillations have greater global impact. El Ni?o and La Ni?a are examples.

Fishkills are often associated with hypo- or anoxic environments, usually associated with eutrophication and heat-stagnation. Fishkills are exactly what the sound like.

Cyclonic phenomena are just your basic wind-weather stuff: tornadoes, typhoons, and hurricanes. It is predicted that cyclones will become more common, although not necessarily more severe, during global warming.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: NASA
« on: August 14, 2009, 08:24:27 AM »
NASA lied about the moon landing

They lied about GW

and they lied about the RE


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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: How do planes fly?
« on: August 14, 2009, 07:48:57 AM »
If the earth is accelerating upwards, then the atmosphere is accelerating upwards, then the plane is also accelerating upwards. Its not that hard a concept to grasp

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Patriotism
« on: August 14, 2009, 07:47:08 AM »
Does the American anthem have a bit about butchering Scots? because if it does then I'm in!

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: NASA
« on: August 14, 2009, 07:30:59 AM »
NASA have been lying to us for years re global warming, they are just as likely to be lying about the RE too.

Because all evidence related to global warming is strictly from imaging systems rather than meteorology, botany, changes in migration, changes in ice patterns, or anything of that nature.

None of that evidence says what NASA says it says. This is proven FACT. Anthony Watts is a meteorologist, ask him what he thinks about NASA lies. He has shown how NASA lies (NASA uses more than imaging) with their UAE, the surface temperature stations are all lies.

http://www.heartland.org/publications/environment%20climate/article/25654/Nearly_90_of_Temperature_Stations_Show_Extreme_Heat_Bias_Study_Says.html

Meterologists don't agree with NASA lies. they see through the lies.

The Truth will set you free!

http://wattsupwiththat.com/

What are these lies? All you have shown me are bureaucratic costs that are inevitable but fixable and the only evidence of this is sparse anecdotal evidence. If they are poorly calibrated yet all are consistently so (as somewhat suggested) then it doesn't matter if they show that the temperature in Alaska is 163.8 degrees if the variation is the same or proportional in other areas.

Can you show me where meteorologists disagree with NASA and say that climate change isn't happening? That should be a fun read.

Anthony Watts disagrees. He is an eminent meteorologist

http://www.ametsoc.org/memdir/seallist/get_listoftv.cfm

Here are some of his views on these lies

http://wattsupwiththat.com/

NASA "corrects" instrumental data so it says what they want. Anthony exposed this and made NASA admit that 1934 was the hottest year on record - where was the carbon then?

http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/08/1998_no_longer_the_hottest_yea.html

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Climate change on a flat earth
« on: August 14, 2009, 06:26:39 AM »
Its reputable Anthony Watts has been cited by the NOAA

and he has this on his website



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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Climate change on a flat earth
« on: August 14, 2009, 05:55:39 AM »
they probably work for NASA

Seek the truth and yea shall find!

http://wattsupwiththat.com/

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: How do planes fly?
« on: August 14, 2009, 03:08:23 AM »
The plane is obviously moving up at the same rate as the earth.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: NASA
« on: August 14, 2009, 03:05:14 AM »
NASA have been lying to us for years re global warming, they are just as likely to be lying about the RE too.

Because all evidence related to global warming is strictly from imaging systems rather than meteorology, botany, changes in migration, changes in ice patterns, or anything of that nature.

None of that evidence says what NASA says it says. This is proven FACT. Anthony Watts is a meteorologist, ask him what he thinks about NASA lies. He has shown how NASA lies (NASA uses more than imaging) with their UAE, the surface temperature stations are all lies.

http://www.heartland.org/publications/environment%20climate/article/25654/Nearly_90_of_Temperature_Stations_Show_Extreme_Heat_Bias_Study_Says.html

Meterologists don't agree with NASA lies. they see through the lies.

The Truth will set you free!

http://wattsupwiththat.com/

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Climate change on a flat earth
« on: August 14, 2009, 03:00:28 AM »
Environmental scientists working for many other organisations work more on it.

Yes. Yes we do. Glad you realized that.

After I finish my degree I'll probably be doing something to do with it!  Geologist here :)
That said, it may be to do more with past climate change.

You should listen to eminent geologists like Ian Plimer. He knows how we are being fooled, like the way they lie about the sun, he tells us quite logically that the sun was formed from a collapsed supernova. He knows more than those liars at NASA.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: NASA
« on: August 13, 2009, 04:52:56 PM »
NASA have been lying to us for years re global warming, they are just as likely to be lying about the RE too.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: I'm no expert at this, but ..
« on: August 13, 2009, 05:59:26 AM »
It looks flat to me. Sure, it's round but it doesn't look spherical from that shot.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Climate change on a flat earth
« on: August 13, 2009, 05:20:54 AM »
Quote

NASA doesn't actually have that much to do with climate change.  I have no doubt they venture into it, but it's not one of their main ideas.  That is dealt with environmental scientists - geographers, oceanographers, climate specialists and geologists - from all over the world.  The data used there actually goes back thousands of years.

So who does James Hansen work for?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Okay. I want pictures of this ice wall.
« on: August 13, 2009, 02:09:48 AM »

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The Lounge / Re: Armed robbery
« on: August 13, 2009, 01:43:43 AM »
So there was an armed jewel heist in England. They had guns and no one did anything to stop them. England's gun laws are super effective lol.

Yeah, because armed citizens stop armed robberis in America all the time  ::)

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: 150 ft ice wall
« on: August 12, 2009, 06:55:30 PM »
The ice wall is real, I've been doing some research and there is some pretty convincing photographic evidence out thee






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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: What powers The Sun?
« on: August 12, 2009, 06:44:01 PM »
According to Professor Ian Plimer, in his book Heaven and Hell, the sun is a collapsed supernova. It is probably just super condnsed matter.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Climate change on a flat earth
« on: August 12, 2009, 05:34:19 PM »
That's what NASA says but NASA lies, I think this fact has been well established by now.

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The Lounge / Re: so i've decided to quit smoking
« on: August 12, 2009, 04:22:26 AM »
I'm starting a course of champix tomorrow. Tired of sore lungs and nicotine addiction.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Climate change on a flat earth
« on: August 12, 2009, 03:54:02 AM »
Then why is the atmosphere not clear? Sure you don't work for NASA?  ::)

Erm...  It is clear...  Otherwise you wouldn't be able to see what's in front of you...

Then why can't you see Africa from America with a strong enough telescope? You people refuse to see what is in front of your face then call it a conspiracy when you get called out on it. I am becoming more and more convinced of the FE model with every response I receive on this forum.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Climate change on a flat earth
« on: August 12, 2009, 02:58:51 AM »
Then why is the atmosphere not clear? Sure you don't work for NASA?  ::)

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It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a conspiracy FACT!

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NASA would have us believe that invisible gasses are warming the planet. I say that is lies, how convenient that the gasses are invisible. Like the FE'ers say, air isn't clear, if greenhouse gasses can bend light and stop us from seeing far away continents then why can't we see carbon?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Climate change on a flat earth
« on: August 11, 2009, 08:18:16 PM »
But NASA have lied about so much. maybe they are lying about the milankovitch cycle too? Personally I don't beleive in greenhouse gasses, i mean have you ever seen one?


There you are. Carbon dioxide.

CO2 is invisible, or so NASA would have us believe.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Climate change on a flat earth
« on: August 11, 2009, 07:11:46 PM »
I am undecided on RE/FE

The way i see it is that NASA have been conspiring over global warming so I think it is believable that they could be lying over this too.

Follow the money!

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