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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The other side?
« on: March 06, 2009, 02:32:14 PM »
Repeatable experiments and contemporary physics are more proof than RE will ever have.

all the RE experiments are conspiracies so they cant be used. sorry bucko but saying FE experiments trump RE experiments is a really bad argument.

on this note id like to thank this forum for a day and 1/2 of lulz and now im going to watch a nasa documentary.

glhf tell me how third grade is next year.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Why all FEers are misguided.
« on: March 06, 2009, 02:30:37 PM »
considering my fairy tale has more scientific evidence than yours ever will. im content with it

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Why all FEers are misguided.
« on: March 06, 2009, 02:26:32 PM »
NASA doesn't explore space. Flat Earth 101.

The earth is round. Kindergarten

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Why it is impossible to reason with an FE'er.
« on: March 06, 2009, 02:25:22 PM »
Because they have the same argument all the time. You can throw you're proven scientific facts at them, but they will always have some sought of reply, going along these lines.

If you question them about anything to do with the government, NASA, etc., It's a conspiracy. This is their main argument of course, as most modern things space/sphere earth related (Satellites, space launches, images of earth, etc) revolve around these things. Therefore they can just tell you 'it's all a lie' (Of course providing zero evidence backing up these 'lies'). Oh and anything in history to do with a round earth didn't happen either. After all it's in the FAQ so it must be true.

If NASA is so legit, how did they lose 565 Billion dollars in 48 years?


This means that whatever you throw at them will result at them telling you it didn't happen, is a government conspiracy, or it doesn't exist. In other words, our evidence isn't actually evidence at all to them. Despite being proven facts (Don't quote that telling me it's made up by the government either).

Did I mention my aunte and both my cousins moved to Australia recently? Oh wait, Australia doesn't exist, meaning she's either a government agent or she's been imprisoned in a 'fake' Austrailia which is actually a different place.

The other posters have told you about this already.

launching shit into space isn't exactly pocket change.

can anybody answer why australia isn't cold if its close to so much ice?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Why all FEers are misguided.
« on: March 06, 2009, 02:21:37 PM »
The word is misled, thank you for visiting. Bye!

Do explain. I doubt the government would be able to pull off such a thing, and besides, what is their motivation? "Okay, we've got them all brainwashed into thinking that the earth is round! Now what?"

NASA's budget is bigger than the GDP of several countries. If that isn't motivation, I don't know what is.

NASA is also leading the entire world in space exploration and has probably done more for humanity than those countries have. next time you use your cell phone or get lost and turn on GPS, you can thank nasa's billion dollar budget.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Please, enlighten me.
« on: March 06, 2009, 02:18:52 PM »
Having been raised from birth in an RE household, it's often difficult to correct certain phrases that have become ingrained in us. I understand completely.

not gonna lie, i chuckled.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The other side?
« on: March 06, 2009, 02:08:38 PM »
The continued existence of this thread begs to differ.

the fact that the only evidence you have is a few experiments and gigantic twists to contemporary physics is what continues this thread. not the actual possibility of the earth being flat.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 06, 2009, 07:24:01 AM »
another question. if the earth is accelerating how come it can't catch up to a shuttle those first few seconds of lift off?

http://www.forumspile.com/Blank-Facepalm.gif

You aren't serious with that question are you.

not valid proof.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 10:28:26 PM »
another question. if the earth is accelerating how come it can't catch up to a shuttle those first few seconds of lift off?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The other side?
« on: March 05, 2009, 10:22:29 PM »
Then get off the interwebs silly.

lol.
I'm just too addicted to this forum, the debate (when there isn't any trolls) is fun! If I can't participate, due ot lack of knowledge or unable to know how to respond, I enjoy reading the post.

And trust me this website is much more fun than a English research paper. lol

the government needs to keep it a secret so we dont...o wait there is no good reason for the government to do that so lets just make shit up!!!!
And if I'm correct, the FE'ers believe that the government made up this lie to gian more money. Of course I believe that's absurd, and that there's plenty of other ways to make more money than a silly lie about the shape of the Earth.

if i was going to make up an idea like this i would definatly come up with a better government pitch. really now? the u.s govt needs to fake the SHAPE of the earth to make an extra buck....rofl

i would go as far as to say most of the supporters do not look at the countering arguments, visit space centers and try and look at the other side. As you can see by some of Tom's posts he doesn't even respond intelligently. "NEED MOAR DATA"

go to the Kennedy space center in a few weeks and watch the launch. touch a shuttle and try and explain to a rocket scientist why you believe the earth is flat. over the internet is one thing but i doubt half the shit said on here would fly with college professors and actual scientists.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Satellites
« on: March 05, 2009, 10:21:06 PM »
In the FAQ one of the questions was how do satellites revolve around the earth and the answer was satellites don't exist and signals are just broadcasted through towers. My question is why when I look threw my telescope at certain times I can see satellites floating in outer space?

Just exactly what do you see when you spot one of these so called satellites in your telescope?

I would bet all you see is a white dot.

we kind of have this thing called atmosphere blocking us from clearly viewing satellites but go ahead and blurt out the same mumbo jumbo.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 10:09:55 PM »
Happy now?  This isn't a cartoon.




thanks for spending the time to pick one of the less serious posts. that picture is still hilarious in the fact that our world is flat and surrounded by ice with guards patrolling. how can you not laugh at the thought of that?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 10:08:12 PM »
And have you actually seen a plat earth from space?  How do you know for sure the exact shape of it?
Well its definitely not round.  And a triangle-shaped Earth?  That's just retarded.  So it must be flat.  There you go.
Well its definitely not flat.  And a triangle-shaped Earth?  That's just retarded.  So it must be round.  There you go.

i can sail from america to asia and back around to america

That was a joke, albeit a bad one.  I actually don't believe in FET.  I just happen think people should understand the theory before they bash it. 
its not a theory. a theory has mounds of evidence backing it while this has a few ideas and some random books. following the ways of the higher ups of this idea of a flat earth im going to pick apart your words instead of answering.

the earth being round, gravity, black hols are all good theories while the earth being flat is a second graders first hypothesis in his science work book.
There is actually some basis, mainly Robotham's writings.  He did some "experiments" that "prove" the Earth is flat.  The theory is plausible.  Completely ridiculous, but plausible.

since when are 1 or a few results ever used in science? the supporters of these ideas put others down for not knowing basic science concepts when they are believing their ideas based off of a few random experiments. who is to say that he is part of a conspiracy to hide the world being round and shit went wrong and only he survived? 1 person, 1 experiment >contemporary science, physics and the laws of the universe? i think not
*Sigh*  Look, I completely agree with you.  But don't take it so seriously, I don't.  I post here because there are in interesting people and FET is an interesting concept.  There aren't too many people here who actually believe it and the ones that do are too stubborn to listen to reason anyways.

im not angry at the fact that im being argued with. im angry at the fact that grown men/women are debating in such childish and immature ways that nothing gets through their skulls.

skimming through a very old thread i found this and basically sums up this entire website.

m888: The united nationt includes countries from all over the world. It would be inpossible to show them all on a 3D globe picture.
Franct: So you acknowledge that Round Earthism cannot be represented, and thus is a sham? Interesting.
m888: What? not at all. I acknowledge that the earth is three dimensional and if you look at it from only one angle then you can't see the other side.
Franct: And now you deny what you plainly said. Interesting...
m888: I'm not denying anything! I said "picture"!!! Do you know what a PICTURE is?! It's 2 dimensional. You can't see the arctic an australia and the USA and the UK at the same time!
Franct: m888, stop evading. You said:

"The united nationt includes countries from all over the world. It would be inpossible to show them all on a 3D globe picture."

Clearly meaning that displaying all countries on a globe was impossible, and that the Round Earth model is contradictory.



im a FET and im 4 and 1/2:)

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Satellites
« on: March 05, 2009, 10:02:48 PM »
In the FAQ one of the questions was how do satellites revolve around the earth and the answer was satellites don't exist and signals are just broadcasted through towers. My question is why when I look threw my telescope at certain times I can see satellites floating in outer space?

 you see them because they exist and the founders of these ideas are acting like 3 year olds plugging their ears and saying no when something is blatantly in their face.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Something doesnt add up
« on: March 05, 2009, 10:01:41 PM »
I dont even know why i bother because Tom is just going to come up with some cock and bull "no data" way out anyway but...

I dont understand why you (Tom) dont have sufficient data to do simple geographical equations based on flight times to prove an arch in the earths surface.  The RE'rs have posted sites, explained reasoning, have done equations, basically done all the work they can do and them some.  They have even posted IN DETAIL there reasoning and mathematical basis for their theories, yet you still need data?  I feel that if they were to take you into space and orbit the earth, all you would do is blindfold yourself and say "i see nothing that disproves my point".  I deem that Tom should be removed from all intellectual criteria from this point on, he has no scientific reasoning of why the data is insufficient nor does he specify what more he wants, simply "more"... "more" what?  Flight times?  Equations?  Explanations?   Perhaps if you explained what KIND of data you want we would be able to provide this "data" for you because you simply choose not to look for it yourself.  As it has been stated in this thread before, Tom continually asks for proof that the earth is round and we oblige, yet when we ask for data that the earth is flat (and simple geographical equations or a valid time/travel ratio would suffice) you simply say "no funding".  I dont see where funding is needed to do mathematical equations (such as the RE'rs have done) to at least give us a valid scientifically reasoning for why it may perhaps be flat.  In short all i see when i read this thread (in its entirety) is as follows;

FE'rs:  The earth is flat
RE'rs:  Here are mathematical equations that prove the earth is round, i would like to discuss this and see what mathematical equations you have to prove your point.
FE'rs:  That equation isnt sufficient enough
RE'rs:  I beg to differ, it involves the travel/time ratio due to curvature of the earth, please tell me what you would like more.
FE'rs:  More data.
Re'rs:  What kind.
FE'rs:  More, this is insufficient.

Needless to say, being a new member, it makes me think that the RET is more inclined to be true due to proof that they have provided and the lack of data the FET has provided. 

you act as if tom is a scientist when he is really the same thing as tom cruise and his Scientology.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 09:59:54 PM »
why am i trying to intelligently respond? look at this fucking picture...its  a cartoon



sad sad world when people honestly believe that this is what we live in

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 09:56:16 PM »
And have you actually seen a plat earth from space?  How do you know for sure the exact shape of it?
Well its definitely not round.  And a triangle-shaped Earth?  That's just retarded.  So it must be flat.  There you go.
Well its definitely not flat.  And a triangle-shaped Earth?  That's just retarded.  So it must be round.  There you go.

i can sail from america to asia and back around to america

That was a joke, albeit a bad one.  I actually don't believe in FET.  I just happen think people should understand the theory before they bash it. 
its not a theory. a theory has mounds of evidence backing it while this has a few ideas and some random books. following the ways of the higher ups of this idea of a flat earth im going to pick apart your words instead of answering.

the earth being round, gravity, black hols are all good theories while the earth being flat is a second graders first hypothesis in his science work book.
There is actually some basis, mainly Robotham's writings.  He did some "experiments" that "prove" the Earth is flat.  The theory is plausible.  Completely ridiculous, but plausible.

since when are 1 or a few results ever used in science? the supporters of these ideas put others down for not knowing basic science concepts when they are believing their ideas based off of a few random experiments. who is to say that he is part of a conspiracy to hide the world being round and shit went wrong and only he survived? 1 person, 1 experiment >contemporary science, physics and the laws of the universe? i think not

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The other side?
« on: March 05, 2009, 09:45:27 PM »
the government needs to keep it a secret so we dont...o wait there is no good reason for the government to do that so lets just make shit up!!!!

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 09:44:02 PM »
And have you actually seen a plat earth from space?  How do you know for sure the exact shape of it?
Well its definitely not round.  And a triangle-shaped Earth?  That's just retarded.  So it must be flat.  There you go.
Well its definitely not flat.  And a triangle-shaped Earth?  That's just retarded.  So it must be round.  There you go.

i can sail from america to asia and back around to america

That was a joke, albeit a bad one.  I actually don't believe in FET.  I just happen think people should understand the theory before they bash it. 
its not a theory. a theory has mounds of evidence backing it while this has a few ideas and some random books. following the ways of the higher ups of this idea of a flat earth im going to pick apart your words instead of answering.

the earth being round, gravity, black holes are all good theories while the earth being flat is a second graders first hypothesis in his science work book.

maybe just MAYBE if anybody on this forum had some sort of degree and legit experiments backed by colleges, companies and foundations would i believe one tiny bit of it but sadly nobody in their right mind would ever back this. unlike lets say uhh...NASA!!!!!!!!!! ESA!!!!! private colleges launching shit into space!!!!!!!! http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~cuspaceflight/media.php

please graduate the second grade and realize that blindly following this dumbass idea wont get you anywhere in life.
you guys are most likely scientologists.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 09:34:39 PM »
And have you actually seen a plat earth from space?  How do you know for sure the exact shape of it?
Well its definitely not round.  And a triangle-shaped Earth?  That's just retarded.  So it must be flat.  There you go.
Well its definitely not flat.  And a triangle-shaped Earth?  That's just retarded.  So it must be round.  There you go.

i can sail from america to asia and back around to america

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 09:20:53 PM »
So humanity is a miracle now.  I suppose from some invisible being in space?  Why couldn't this same miracle happen to create the one and only flat earth?

Now earth is a supermass in space?  Since when.  And have you actually seen earth from space?  How do you know for sure the exact shape of it?
i said miracle for lack of a better word. as in not religion, but please pick my words apart because thats all you can do to convince yourself you arn't thinking like a neanderthal. we DONT know that there isn't life because are arn't technologically advanced enough to see it.
we are technologically advanced and have been in space and have seen the earth but it turns out nasa spent billions of dollars photoshopping pictures. supermass in these terms is BIG FUCKING THING THAT CAUSES GRAVITY LIKE SUN AND OTHER PLANETS.

And have you actually seen a plat earth from space?  How do you know for sure the exact shape of it?

i've seen nasa photos but i guess those can't be used because they need to hush shit up.

the only flat earth i have seen from you is some random map somebody drew in 15 minutes.



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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 09:10:20 PM »
*sigh*

The point is, as far as we know earth is the only planet with humans.  Just as in the case that as far as we know earth is the only one that is a plane.  Try and keep up.  The principles aren't that hard.
humans are an evolutionary "miracle" for lack of a better word. a lot of shit went right for you to be on this forum following some random guys book on why modern day science is a conspiracy. in freshman bio we learned how the first bacteria formed but im too lazy to find my papers.

now earth on the other hand is a supermass in space. earth DOES follow all the laws that other super masses do. earth has gravity. your idea of gravity is the earth accelerating but if that was the case we wouldn't be able to jump. we would crush our legs with the force of 1g hitting us. contemporary "gravity" states that matter is pushed both ways negating the whole ur legs are going to break.

just because you read in a couple of books that earth is flat and all of modern science and its thousands of books are wrong doesn't mean you are right. many of these FAQ answers have been disputed by common people and all we get back is your dumbass generic answers of OHH LAWD NASA SPENT ALL THEIR MONEY CREATING C4D AND MAYA SO THEY COULD FAKE SPACE LAUNCHES.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 08:52:22 PM »
Why would only the earth have humans on it and no other planets.  When I look out my telescope to other planets I don't see any other humans looking back at me.  How can this be?!?



what does that have to do with this? good job at making yourself look horribly stupid

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why would only the earth be flat and no other planet? when looking out in a telescope you dont see other planets as planes.


You started the stupidity.  Great job.

relating planets to humanity isn't a viable answer. the reason we dont know if there are other "humans" is because we are not advanced enough to see them. once we have a chance to explore more planets deeply will we know if there are signs of life. we CAN find other planets in space and using mathematics and science determine their shapes and distances from us.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 08:48:38 PM »
The earth is not a planet. Read the FAQ.

planet or not it still has a gravitational force that would cause it to be spherical. this "mass" does not defy the laws that most of the universe abides by.

what happens when you roll a penny off of a table? it falls off.

what happens when you reach the "end" of the flat earth? nothing you keep going because it's round.
In FET, there is no gravity.  The illusion of gravity is created by the Earth's acceleration.  Like Proleg said, read the FAQ.  It will answer many of your questions.

according to the faq the sun/moon have gravity but the earth doesn't. relating this to dogs cats and lizards or some shit. are you shitting me? if your going to make crackpot theories at least make up a decent analogy. why do dogs have legs but only 1 dog doesn't would better suit it.

after reading the faq i stumbled upon this



why is australia warm if it is so close to that much ice?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 08:34:46 PM »
The earth is not a planet. Read the FAQ.

planet or not it still has a gravitational force that would cause it to be spherical. this "mass" does not defy the laws that most of the universe abides by.

what happens when you roll a penny off of a table? it falls off.

what happens when you reach the "end" of the flat earth? nothing you keep going because it's round.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 08:33:19 PM »
Why would only the earth have humans on it and no other planets.  When I look out my telescope to other planets I don't see any other humans looking back at me.  How can this be?!?



what does that have to do with this? good job at making yourself look horribly stupid

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Flat Earth Q&A / why would only....
« on: March 05, 2009, 08:25:22 PM »
why would only the earth be flat and no other planet? when looking out in a telescope you dont see other planets as planes.

all large planets and stars are almost perfect spheres because gravity equally pushes/pulls them. why would earth be the only exception?

please dont reply with cite sources, give data, and the other generic responses 90% of this community responds with because you can easily wikipedia and google this and figure find valid sources.

after reading a good 3 pages of threads in this section i've come to realize that other than the same basic theories the supporters of this website have they dont ever say anything new.

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