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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The sun is flat?

« on: February 14, 2010, 06:58:06 AM »

The Sun is bioluminescent. Small dark patches occur for one of two main likely reasons:

a) There is temporarily no luminescent biomass in that patch,

b) Whatever luminescent biomass is on that patch is "underneath" (above, in Earth-terms) some obstacle.

Sunspots don't really tell us anything about the shape of the Sun I'm afraid.

I too would advise against staring at the Sun for too long, since the Solar biomass has a self-defence mechanism of blinding and carcinogenic rays. Always wear sunscreen and never stare at the Sun.

I hate to say it but sunspots do emit light. The reason they are darker is because they are cooler than the rest of the surface of the sun. Solar flares also occur on the backside of the sun, the side we don't see. You can see the with a surface telescope with the right filters once the flare is far away enough that the brightness of the surface doesn't flood out the flare.

Here is a video of a satellite called Lasco. There is a small disk they put over the sun its self so they can only observed the suns out atmosphere, helping make the CMEs (flares) more visible. A lot of those plasma clouds shooting off the sun are coming off the back of the sun.

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I could dig up some surface based images but loops wont happen from the surface due to earths rotation/weather (cloud cover).

Here is another cool vid, comet at 0:05:

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Here you see a full halo CME, when these occur it mean one of two things. The CME is heading to Earth or away. This one is going to Earth, the reason you know this is because you can see all the white dots one the camera. Those are the Protons bombarding the the satellites sensors.



I know since these are satellite images they are part of the conspiracy. But there are land based images you can fins showing these flare usally from amateur astronomers.

Here is an MDI loop (surface based), it's choppy due to the lack of images at night/weather.

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Here is a high res image of the sun (taken from the surface):

http://zuserver2.star.ucl.ac.uk/~idh/apod/ap051106.html

Another image taken from earths surface.:

http://web.me.com/uriarte/Earths_Climate/Sunspots_and_solar_cycles_files/sunspot032901.gif

here you can see the sphererical shape of the sun distorting the spots that are on the side of the sun.

It doesn't look like to me that there are patches covering pieces of the sun. Seems to me they those things are on the suns surface.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Gamburtsev Mountains

« on: February 10, 2010, 04:25:44 PM »

Yeah, the 59th floor of a skyscraper isn't the ground.  The "ground" floor is on the ground.

Ok... I honestly don't are it was a good article either way

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: FET map fail?

« on: February 10, 2010, 04:23:05 PM »

He hasn't debunked anything. All he's said is 'If I want to do this, I can on RET, but I can't on FET! Here are some flight times, and watch out, I have a black belt in meteorology!'


My understanding is that 'debunking' something involves a little more than just declaring that you've done so.

All you said was i used the word debunk in the wrong context... does this mean you admit your wrong about the rest?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Gamburtsev Mountains

« on: February 10, 2010, 04:16:34 PM »

I don't agree with your OP.

I just think he was a dumbass.

So i am a dumb-ass because reference the ground as material I would be standing on whether ice, dirt, the 59th floor in a sky scraper.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The sun is flat?

« on: February 10, 2010, 04:06:42 PM »

does it shine in only one direction? is it round?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Gamburtsev Mountains

« on: February 10, 2010, 07:57:08 AM »

The mountain range is under ice, not under the ground.

So if you are standing on the ground and the ground is made up of ice...

...and under it there are mountains...

...then the mountains are underground.

If there was ice in middle of a mountain you wouldn't say the mountain is around the ice would you?

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Flat Earth Q&A / FET map fail?

« on: February 10, 2010, 06:18:42 AM »

I figure if the FE guys were all so sure about their theory that they claim is a fact because they have so many theory's proving that their theory is a fact... Why don't you have a map that can represent the day to day life we experience. My globe which is a sphere does that pretty well.





Lets say i want to travel from Buenos Aires to Sydney Australia:



It should take me roughly the same amount of time to travel from Maine in the US to Japan (please note that this may have 1 or 2 stops adding a few hours to the travel time):



Your maps all fail at doing this. People make these flights all the time... if the times were wrong i am sure you would hear about this on the news... people would want their money back.
Please don't bring up the Jet Stream, i'm a Meteorologist... i'll debunk that pretty quick.

See:
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22288.0

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Flat Earth Q&A / The sun is flat?

« on: February 10, 2010, 04:03:51 AM »

How can the sun be flat? There are currently sunspots on the sun that rotate around it. Any person with a common telescope and the right filter can look at the sun everyday and see the spots work their way around the sun. Due to the sun being a sphere when the spots first appear on the east side of the sun (the east side of the sun is the left side when looking at it) you will notice the sunspots appear to grow as they work their way to the middle of the disk due to the viewing angle. Once they pass the middle and continue to move to the west and off the disk they will shrink again. In most cases the same spot will become visible again about 12-13 days once the spot rotates off the back of the sun.

Also sunspots can be seen with the naked eye (very large ones) I wouldn't try it at home.

And since we are talking about sunspots we can also talk about solar flares which come off the sunspots once the magnetic field that creates the sunspot snaps which shoots particles at almost the speed of light. Depending where the spot is determines at which angle the flare shoots out at. If the flare shoots off dead center of the sun the flare is called a full halo. This is because the flare looks like a halo because it is coming directly towards earth. If the flare shoots of one of the sides its clearly seen shooting off at an angle. This is because the sun is a sphere.

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The Lounge / Re: Streaming media website

« on: October 05, 2008, 07:03:00 AM »

It's okay, you don't have to keep lying. Tom Bishop isn't here right now.

Oh good n/m truth is i ran out of porn.

No sites? man this blows.

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The Lounge / Re: Streaming media website

« on: October 05, 2008, 06:56:04 AM »

i am at work... the problem is there is nothing to do. Remeber i am a space weather guy, and we are in "solar min". They also say that solar winds have been at a 50 year low... i don't know if thats true but it sure does feel like it.

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The Lounge / Streaming media website

« on: October 05, 2008, 06:47:46 AM »

I'm at work right now trying to find a decent site that streams movies where i don't have to load any software. Any decent sites out there?

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The Lounge / Re: HTML question #2

« on: September 30, 2008, 06:01:03 AM »

Sweet thanks alot man.

I think i am going to buy a book today for this stuff. Java for dummys...

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The Lounge / Re: HTML question #2

« on: September 30, 2008, 05:45:57 AM »

Code: [Select]

<html>
<head>
<title>Example</title>
<script language="Javascript">
function update()
{
document.getElementById("tgt").innerHTML = document.getElementById("src").value;
}
</script>
</head>
<body>
<textarea id="src" onKeyUp="update()"></textarea><br/><br/>
<p id="tgt">Text here</p>
</body>
</html>


EDIT: Ah, never mind.

I liked this one, but how do i make the text box smaller like 1 line?

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The Lounge / Re: HTML question #2

« on: September 30, 2008, 03:46:37 AM »

Ok nevermind... maybe i should have read the java script. I got it working, thanks this will work great.

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The Lounge / Re: HTML question #2

« on: September 30, 2008, 03:44:20 AM »

Cool, i got the text box and all but when i tried it out it wasn't doing anything. I suck at this stuff but once i have a working example i can pick it apart and get it to work.

Could you creat a basic example of what i said?

If your post is a basic example tell me what i am doing wrong because all i got was a box that i could type in but when i typed in it nothing showed up anywhere.

Thanks OBL

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The Lounge / HTML question #2

« on: September 30, 2008, 03:01:57 AM »

Well since my last question was answered perfectly I am coming for help again.

I am trying to figure out how to have a text box in one part of the page that once it is filled out the information shows up in another part of the page.

So I would have a box let’s say on the left side, when I put something in it, the numbers or letters will automatically show up on the top right. I just need to know what code will grab that data.

Thanks!

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The Lounge / Re: html help please

« on: September 26, 2008, 12:31:03 AM »

You won't be able to save such a document straight from the browser, but once you've submitted the form to wherever it is processed, you can basically do whatever you want with the data.

Actually now that i think about it... i think i could create an excell macro that will grab the data and format it how i want it... seems to be the long way, but it would work.

It's a workaround, but I guess you could do that. If you were to send that data to a PHP script for example, you could do all kinds of stuff fairly easily - but if you haven't got an Apache server or similar you won't be able to do that.

I am in the AF... I always hear about the "oracle server". But odds are they will not let me near it =(. I will just be saving the data in a file on one of our drives.

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The Lounge / Re: html help please

« on: September 25, 2008, 11:50:16 PM »

You won't be able to save such a document straight from the browser, but once you've submitted the form to wherever it is processed, you can basically do whatever you want with the data.

Actually now that i think about it... i think i could create an excell macro that will grab the data and format it how i want it... seems to be the long way, but it would work.

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The Lounge / Re: html help please

« on: September 25, 2008, 11:48:42 PM »

There will be areas where i have to add text boxes for values that will be entered. those text boxes i would like to save... any for that could be printed at a later date would be great.

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The Lounge / Re: html help please

« on: September 25, 2008, 11:15:31 PM »

This could be one way of many...

Code: [Select]

<script type="text/javascript">
function expand_collapse(obj,list_name){
document.getElementById(list_name).style.display = (obj.checked)? 'block':'none';
}
</script>


<form>

<p>
Check One:<input type="checkbox" onclick="expand_collapse(this,'list1');" checked="checked">
<div id="list1" style="display:block;">
Revealed...
</div>
</p>

<p>
Check One:<input type="checkbox" onclick="expand_collapse(this,'list2');">
<div id="list2" style="display:none;">
Not Revealed...
</div>
</p>

</form>



This is perfect; this is exactly what I was looking for. I was able to change stuff around and get exactly what I wanted.

 I hate to ask another question but is there anyway to in the end have a “save” button that would save it in a text doc or on an excel worksheet in a specified format?

Once again thanks alot!!!

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The Lounge / html help please

« on: September 24, 2008, 10:33:51 PM »

Hey for anyone who knows a bit about HTML I have a few quick questions…

I am trying to create a crappy checklist. What I am looking to do is when you click one of the radio buttons new options will pop up. I have been googleing this for about an hour and all I can find is when you select a button or an option it will just send that information to you instead of opening more options.

Here is a quick example of what I am talking about…

Here are 3 options:

- option 1

- option 2

- option 3

When you select an option then it gives you more options:


- option 1  -- -- -- option 1a
                          - option 1b
- option 2           - option 1c

- option 3

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: How long are your days?

« on: September 23, 2008, 09:10:59 PM »

I am not going to lie I never went outside to see the sunrise or sunset. If you look at local weather websites you can get a quick glance at the fact that countries around the world had about 12 hour days. You have to understand when you go outside and watch a sunrise or set it wont be an exact time.
When I prepare a form called a 175-1 for pilots to fly a lot of times they will ask for the twilight hours. This is the time before sunrise or right after sunset where there is still enough visible light to see, this occurs from the light reflecting off the atmosphere.
But the fact remains that days in the northern hemisphere will get shorter and in the southern they will get longer.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: How long are your days?

« on: September 18, 2008, 12:24:30 AM »

umm yes it is.

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The Lounge / Warhammer online anyone?

« on: September 16, 2008, 11:58:03 PM »

Well if anyone cares I am playing Warhammer Online. Just wondering if anyone else is playing?

Server: Wolfenburg (open RVR / PVP)
Faction: Chaos
Name: Lunchlady

Toss me a PM if you happen to jump on this server. I am a part time player so you wont see me on 8 hours a day.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: How long are your days?

« on: September 16, 2008, 03:28:59 AM »

I think I've found a good spot, although it's about an hour away by car. Here it is. Do a Street View on that bridge to see the kind of visibility I'd get; eastward is across the open ocean, west is across a lake. I may be able to find a better viewpoint along that lake for sunset, it's just that that is the best place that Google Maps has Street View for.

yur really close to the supersonic jet streams there...

My spot will suck i live in Omaha NE and its pretty hilly here so i would get a very accurate ob. It will be off by 30+ mins due to the sun rising a little later (hills) and setting slightly early (yep hills).

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: moon gravity

« on: September 16, 2008, 03:23:44 AM »

we only have 2 hours a week to share our current knowledge/ideas about FE not RE.

we come to places like these to hear the voice of other opinions

No other reason i assure you.

I bet Tom brings the weed.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Sun spots, and craters on the moon.

« on: September 16, 2008, 03:07:04 AM »

What about sunspots? what are they Tom? They can be seen with a telescope and a simple solar filter. they clearly rotate around the sun (27 days avg).

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The Lounge / Re: Macs

« on: September 16, 2008, 03:00:00 AM »

I am not a Mac fan… but I still want to load OSX just to check out. I downloaded it off a torrent just never got to loading it since my spare computers MoBo fried.

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The Lounge / Re: Amusing things teachers have said or done

« on: September 16, 2008, 02:57:53 AM »

In 9th grade we had an evil teacher, one of those people who just yell at people for anything. If your book fell off your desk you would get yelled at, if you raised your hand to sharpen a pencil you would get yelled at… EVIL.

People would always comment how they wished she would die or whatever. Right before X-mas she died… You would think that people would feel bad because she died. People were happy; I even saw high 5’s the day of her death when the comment was made over the announcements.

I guess her dieing is something she did...

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The Lounge / Re: Search phone numbers

« on: September 15, 2008, 06:11:58 PM »

You are acting like you are in the witness protection program or something.  Just call them and say "who the fuck is this".  That will give you the upper hand right off the bat.

Haha.