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Flat Earth General / Re: Jupiters moons
« on: February 17, 2018, 06:36:19 AM »Here is my timelapse of Jupiter and it's moons, this was taken with skywatcher 102/1300.
https://streamable.com/yufkr
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Flat Earth General / Re: Jupiters moons
« on: February 17, 2018, 06:19:57 AM »Great image for a phone shot. What telescope did you use?
Coleman astrowatch, not the best telescope but I live in a light polluted area so I'm not looking to upgrade yet.
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Flat Earth General / Jupiters moons
« on: February 17, 2018, 06:10:36 AM »
https://imgur.com/V31Y8nj
Took a picture of Jupiter this morning through my smart phone camera. Enjoy
Took a picture of Jupiter this morning through my smart phone camera. Enjoy
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Flat Earth General / Re: Evidences Of The Flat Earth (On Going @142)
« on: January 20, 2018, 01:01:24 PM »THE MYTHICAL CURVE
- Find the curve! You can't. Every experience we have says it's flat - from the beach to Mount Everest to a plane.
- Lack of Curvature in Planes
- Curvature has not been seen at heights of 38,000 ft+
- The only evidence showing curvature is from Big Science.
- Weather balloons routinely show a flat earth unless distorted by the lens - often we'll see this happen as it appears concave/convex/ and flat alternating. There is no law of optics that would allow a body to appear flat if it was indeed round.
- You can see Rotspitze, Collalto, GroBglockner, Rote Spitze, Sass De Putia and Sass Rigais from the same spot with no curvature. Also Rauchkofel.
- Shots of Blue Origin from space and from earth show that curvature is seen at ground level the same as from low earth orbit. This proves curvature seen from space is determined by how it was filmed.
- We are too small to see curvature yet boats can be seen to dip below a hill of water?!
1.) This isn't evidence, just ignorance. Not many humans have the chance to visually observe the curve, but there are numerous methods to measure it.
2.) The Earth is so big and we are so small in comparison, do you really think we would be able to see curvature at ground level?
3.) And it shouldn't be seen at those heights anyways, lol fail.
4.) Wrong, numerous geodists and astronomers proved a sphere earth hundreds of years ago before NASA and mainstream science.
5.) Show me the video with a weather balloon without distortion.
6.) What?
7.) What pictures?
8.) Perspective
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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Why does Antarctica and other southern countries get 'midnight sun' (2)
« on: January 18, 2018, 01:46:46 PM »This is an often asked question that I haven't answered in awhile. I should be vigilant about the topic but after answering it so many times I suppose I just burnt out. Anyways, here is the reason for the polar night and day in Antarctica.
As the sun circles above the flat earth it moves closer and further from the North Pole. This explains the six months of day and night in the north. To explain the six months of days and nights on the rim is a bit more involved. As the sun journeys north and south, it also rises and falls so slightly it's nearly unperceivable. In the North, the sun is at its closest to earth and in the South it's at its furthest. Now, to explain how the sun can be seen from all of the rim at one time, simply take a look into your coffee cup http://www.plouffe.fr/simon/cercles/circles.html. Just as light reflects around the entire rim of your drink, so it does around the rim of the earth. I believe it's the firmament itself that reflects this light but others attribute it to how the light waves interact with aether.
While this explains why the south gets extended daylight, what it doesn't explain is that they can physically see the sun circle around them. I've seen plenty of time-lapse footage of both the North and South midnight suns. While I can't say for sure if they're real, I do know for sure that people who live down there would know. Ask any resident of the southern most cities, how the sun acts during the winter.
Arctic
Antarctic
The sun circles around the viewer in both the southern and northern poles.
And on to my second concern which the 3 different patterns throughout the solstices and the equinoxes. They are all completely different, you said the sun increases height which accounts for it, but that is quite a stretch.
It just doesn't make sense how the sun can be visible from Antartica when it is supposedly at the other side of the world.
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Flat Earth Q&A / Why does Antarctica and other southern countries get 'midnight sun' (2)
« on: January 18, 2018, 04:09:19 AM »
Re-upload because no one could answer it, don't trash thread if you don't have anything to contribute.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: They claim this 'debunks' flat earth
« on: January 15, 2018, 07:53:19 PM »I'm repeating myself. metabunk is a shill/trolling website. And there is a lot of shills/trolls stay here. They know themselves very well, we are not required to remind them.
And how does that discredit the argument? Should every argument on this website be discredited because it is a troll site? The argument can be made by any person on any website, what concerns me is that no one is even attempting to come up with an answer. If you don't know, don't answer.
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Flat Earth General / Re: I'm thinking about adopting the flat earth model, and have some questions...
« on: January 11, 2018, 05:58:34 PM »
Goodluck getting a flattie to answer these questions, most questions get ignored and rejected by the FES. Ask a simple questions like why does Antartica get 24 hour of sunlight and the only answers you will get is denial. I don't know how you could even consider adopting the FE, what evidence did you find? I haven't found any to be honest, could you elaborate why you are doubtful of a spherical earth?
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Flat Earth General / Re: No one has actually proven a flat earth.
« on: January 11, 2018, 01:19:59 PM »Ahhh you kicked me when i'm down......now my delusions are revisited.......You really opened my eyes,...it was a harsh confrontation with my delusional self, but it worked
Another victory for the RET!
just make up your mind already
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Flat Earth General / Re: No one has actually proven a flat earth.
« on: January 11, 2018, 01:14:00 PM »You really opened my eyes,...it was a harsh confrontation with my delusional self, but it worked
Another victory for the RET!
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Flat Earth General / No one has actually proven a flat earth.
« on: January 11, 2018, 01:04:06 PM »
Not one piece of undeniable proof has been presented, if so, NASA would be freaking out by now. It is all just speculation, your model works in your own imagination. Just because you have an alternative answer to the RE counterpart doesn't mean you proved anything. Gravity for instance is a well documented scientific theory, your counter argument is that the earth moves upward at an accelerating speed. Sure that helps keep your theory alive but it doesn't disprove gravity in any way. Same goes for all your other explanations and if you are too lazy to make something up you will just straight up deny the evidence. Time to let go of this FE fantasy and wake up to the facts.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Do you expect people to take you seriously???
« on: January 10, 2018, 08:07:28 PM »Who do you think get's taken more seriously? REtards or FEtards?
nice one!
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Flat Earth General / Do you expect people to take you seriously???
« on: January 08, 2018, 10:23:47 PM »
A common complaint among the flatties is that they are not taken seriously, well what do you expect. You provide no contrary evidence that contradicts a spherical Earth, THERE IS NO CONTRARY EVIDENCE!!! If you honestly want people to believe in your 'theory' explain whats wrong with our current model. Sorry but "it looks flat" doesn't cover it. We need evidence, contradictions, or something solid before we can have a discussion. You either are stupid, a troll, or have an agenda, or maybe I have it wrong? How can I know for sure that I am wrong without an contrary evidence. Please explain...
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Flat Earth General / Re: Why does Antarctica and other southern countries get 'midnight sun' ?
« on: January 08, 2018, 10:07:51 PM »
Why can't you flatties provide a viable answer? With 200 hundred views, I would think someone would have come up with a solution to this problem, it completely contradicts your FET. Time to let go of that old myth.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Why does Antarctica and other southern countries get 'midnight sun' ?
« on: January 08, 2018, 02:30:19 PM »https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/argentina/ushuaiaThere are plenty of cruise ships that run off the coast of Antarctica that experience incredibly long days and occasionally even midnight suns. Ushuaia, Argentina experiences 18 hour days near the December solstice.
prove it is so.
This is not a proof. Just a link. You can't prove it.
prove to me Africa exists!!!
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Flat Earth General / Re: Why does Antarctica and other southern countries get 'midnight sun' ?
« on: January 08, 2018, 03:38:49 AM »https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/argentina/ushuaiaThere are plenty of cruise ships that run off the coast of Antarctica that experience incredibly long days and occasionally even midnight suns. Ushuaia, Argentina experiences 18 hour days near the December solstice.
prove it is so.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Why does Antarctica and other southern countries get 'midnight sun' ?
« on: January 08, 2018, 02:46:08 AM »no answers??? I thought this should be an easy question to answer, looks like you flatties are as dumb as a pile of bricks! Good luck!
We have not live in antarctica. there is no evidence to prove that thing you say is true. Some say something. do we have to answer every nonsence every time? "Antarctica and other countries" is basically a nonsence, because Antarctica isin't a country, nor a continent and we have not to get serious this nonsence question.
lol, tell me you're joking, no evidence??? Thats like saying Africa doesn't exist because you haven't been there, this is easily confirmable evidence that would of been debunked hundreds of years ago if it were lies. Obviously you have no answer, no surprise.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Why does Antarctica and other southern countries get 'midnight sun' ?
« on: January 08, 2018, 01:01:59 AM »
no answers??? I thought this should be an easy question to answer, looks like you flatties are as dumb as a pile of bricks! Good luck!
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Flat Earth General / What experiment can I do to prove the Earth is flat?
« on: January 07, 2018, 01:50:14 PM »
thx
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Flat Earth General / Re: The size and distance of Mars.
« on: January 07, 2018, 01:46:26 PM »What do flat earth adherents believe to be the precise distance to Mars and it's size?
What sort of tests could you come up with to determine the distance from Earth to Mars?
Most flatties don't believe in planets, they will show you videos like this:
and conclude that planets are made up and all pictures are cgi. I mean it makes sense why they deny planets because they are spherical and the moons the revolve around them point strongly to gravity.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Why does Antarctica and other southern countries get 'midnight sun' ?
« on: January 07, 2018, 02:48:08 AM »
Rio Grande in Argentina for example is located at 53° S and right now is experiencing 17 hours of daylight.
https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/argentina/rio-grande
https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/argentina/rio-grande
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Flat Earth General / Why does Antarctica and other southern countries get 'midnight sun' ?
« on: January 07, 2018, 02:41:17 AM »
If the sun really does circle above a circle earth, then why does the sunlight make such a unusual pattern? My understanding is it should remain constant throughout the year? Does it have to do with the dome? Why does it make such an unusual change?
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Flat Earth General / Re: How much of the Antarctic do Flat Earthers believe is accessible?
« on: January 04, 2018, 01:31:49 PM »The problem is this: Show me on the flat earth map of your choice how it could be a sunrise in Ushuaia, Argentina, a sunset in New Zealand at the same time.That sounds about right...
Pull out any flat map and graph it yourself.
I gave you an illustration, when you graph it yourself the suns 'spotlight' isn't consistent throughout the year. Could you explain?
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Flat Earth General / Re: How much of the Antarctic do Flat Earthers believe is accessible?
« on: January 04, 2018, 12:59:10 PM »Maybe if you could provide a visual example of what the issue is?
I hope that this thread can finally answer how exactly FE sun shines its light to create day on one part and night on the other part of a flat earth. I have heard one FE theory suggesting that the sun is spherical but somehow acts like a spotlight to explain why it looks round during the day and is not visible at night.
In RET, the Earth's rotation axis is tilted 23.5 degrees from the plane of its orbit around the sun which creates seasons while Earth is orbiting around the sun.
Below shows how Earth receives the sun's light on June and December solstices. in June, the northern hemisphere receives more sun light than the southern hemisphere creating summer time in the northern hemisphere and winter in the southern hemisphere. In December, it's the other way around. But regardless of the time of the year, one half of the spherical earth is in day time while the other half is in night time. Half earth is day and half earth is night. Half and half.
There are many sites that show day night map available on Internet. For example you can check what part of the world in in day time or and night time depending on the day of the year and the time of day in http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/sunearth.html
I tried to project day and night on a flat earth map depending on the month (March, June, September and December). The below sketches show the sun light (the yellow highlight) as perceived by a flat earth in function of the time of the year.
We can see than the shape of the sun light on earth is different depending on the month. In June, the sun is nearer to the north pole and shines in perfect circle on earth giving longer daytime to the northern part. This is probably what is referred to as "spotlight" by some FEers. But in March or September, the sun doesn't shine like a spotlight anymore. In December, it's getting worse. I cannot even find a word to describe how the sun can light the outermost of the disk while creating a dark spot in the middle.
Is this the death of the FE spotlight sun?
I used monopolar model for this work. When I get more time, I'll include the bipolar model too. I have the impression bipolar model will be even weirder than the monopolar one.
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Flat Earth General / So let me get this straight...
« on: January 04, 2018, 02:21:15 AM »
How can you believe in something with such limited evidence? Nothing logically points to a flat earth. You guys are either trolls or the biggest retards on the planet. You don't want to take answers from NASA and other leading scientists, then DO IT YOURSELF. Isn't that the whole point of the zetetic method? If you do follow the zetetic method you will find all observations to only make sense on a spherical Earth. Plus the burden of proof is one you guys for making absurd claims against well-established evidence. You fail to provide a drop of evidence. Unless there is something I'm missing here...
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Flat Earth General / Re: Why does the sun appear to go below the horizon on a flat Earth?
« on: January 02, 2018, 12:36:31 AM »
come on...
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Flat Earth General / Why does the sun appear to go below the horizon on a flat Earth?
« on: December 31, 2017, 03:00:27 PM »
I'm trying to understand so bare with me, please provide a full explanation for this phenomenon. If light refraction is to be the case, then there should be an experiment to test this hypothesis, if you found any please inform me. thx
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Flat Earth General / What will it take for you to change your mind about flat Earth?
« on: December 25, 2017, 10:40:21 PM »
Evidence, experimentation, contradictions? For me personally, if you can point to any contradiction in the current model and provide any feasible alternative evidence, then I will consider your proposition, so far all I see is rambling. Or are you completely closed off to changing your mind?
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Flat Earth General / Must of been cgi, right?
« on: December 24, 2017, 06:48:44 AM »My eyes must be playing tricks again!
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Flat Earth General / Re: Do flatties make completely logical and sound arguments?
« on: December 22, 2017, 03:14:32 AM »I think not, the arguments flatties spread have no logic implemented whatsoever. There is no rational reason why I should believe in a flat earth, you haven't provided any evidence, only 'theories.' So why do you believe in a flat earth? Where is the inconstancies with the globe earth model? You say it looks flat, but fail to grasp how perspective works. You say NASA lies, but NASA has only been around for less than 100 years, they weren't the first to declare the Earth a sphere. Have you ever actually looked into how they calculated the curvature of the Earth? Have you looked into geodesy? Why distrust the well-established, observable evidence? Why do all the observations made in our entire history lead to the conclusion of a spherical Earth and not a flat earth? Is God playing games, why is it so hard to prove the Earth is flat?
The FE timeline is much more impressive than that of the RE usurpers. Observe the now most inaccurate statement ever made on the internet.
REers are increasingly grasping at straws and coming up short.
I'm sorry, what observations have you made that led you to believe a flat earth other than "it looks flat".