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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Couple of questions for flat earthers.....
« on: August 26, 2016, 09:54:50 PM »
I'll illuminate you...

- The earth's magentic field has nothing to do with it being flat... ALL compases point NORTH... there IS NO COMPASS THAT POINTS SOUTH!  Thus on a flat or round earth it points to the north 'pole' or "NORTH CENTER" on a flat model

Bring me a magnet and a compass and I can show you that the south end can point to things too.

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- Sattelite are 100% FAKE.  It's 2016 and I live in the desert, the phone signal/internet drops all the time becasue there are no satellites directing calls.

Say what? You are saying that satellites don't exist because your cellphone coverage sucks? Honestly, I don't know what you are saying here.. Do you expect your cell phone to blast data to and from orbit?
I lived in the middle of a desert playa for a week last year, and my GPS system worked just fine. There were no cell towers, so yeah, my phone was useless. I helped with setting up a mobile data communications satellite there, pointed right at the sky, and wouldn't ya know there was a signal up there. If we aimed it any place else, the carrier signal dropped. What is clear to me is that there is a highly directional signal spewing forth from the heavens.

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 TOWERS are used to relay radio signals from one tower to the next...  Why are there spotty areas in remote locations IF satellites supposedly umbrealla the whole earth?  Because they dont exist... they use radio-towers, and in remote locations they DONT build towers... the market is too small.. thus coverage is perfect in NYC or LA and NON-EXISTANT in the woods/desert/'middle of nowhere'...

I think you are very confused about communications infrastructure, man. Cell systems and line of sight systems require towers. If I have a satellite based phone, I will have communications in an area that also has no cellular coverage. Your Iphone is not going to crap out packets into orbit.


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Secondly - YOU CANNOT SEE SATTELITES... I live in a clear area with plent of passenger sized jet planes... a mere few thouand feet they are just a 'dot' in the night sky... higher than that and they 'vanish'... a sattelite is 10 times higher or more, yet 10 times SMALLER... you CANNOT see non-existant sattelites... you are seeing planes.  Period. 

There are reflective surfaces, reflecting the light from the sun. You can see that just fine in the right environment. I could argue the FAA's lighting standards, color and location, etc etc, but that is boring.

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Thirdly, GPS uses RADIO-TOWERS via triangulation...

No, cellular triangulation uses that, and it sucks. GPS *can* use that method as a supplement to the orbital signals, but that is certainly not the core of GPS. Land based triangulation typically relies on signal strength calculations that can be directly and severely impacted by topology. If this were true, your GPS system would fail in fully isolated zones... and I can tell you with 1000% certainty that it doesn't.

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- Retrofeflecotrs = NASA LIES.

I could be mistaken, but I believe independent researchers have also done a bounce or two. And clearly it doesn't explain the ability for a HAM operator to bounce signals as well. What's the difference really? They both show the same results of what the moon is all about.

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- Gravity has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.  You take a ball, let go, it falls to the earth.  NO MAN can explain why that happens.  Its just a force that is here.  Explaining why 'gravity' is here is like trying to explain why there is a color 'green' or why a cat meows..  on BOTH models gravity is present, NEITHER model explains why it is here, only how it works...

I don't know why or how I am here either.

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- Flight paths follow odd-shaped paths on a round model because they are uniform (logical) on a flat model..

Saving this one for another day.

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- Stars, planets, etc are still here on a flat model.. "how are the sun moon and stars held above the earth without falling?"  Well how are they 'held in space' on the round model...??  UNASWERABLE!  Nobody can explain WHY or HOW all of the universe got here or how it is all held together... that is the zillion-$ question asked for ages...  The only answers that man has come up with to answer this is A) God waved a magic wand, and presto, everything appeared... and the equally magical B) there was a magical explosion originating from magic land and presto, everything appeared, just a bit slower via 'evolution'...

I think he was asking how all the stuff we see in the sky gets smooshed into this dome thing without spewing forth a random star or two for some guy to trip over while walking his dog one day.


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Explain these pictures?
« on: August 26, 2016, 06:58:57 PM »
Here comes the part when everyone screams "diffraction" at you. Wait for it! Waaaait for iiiit!

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Flat Earth Debate / FE'ers - Please explain this.
« on: August 25, 2016, 03:25:34 PM »
Take a boat. Stick it in the water. Find a nice, powerful laser. Auto-level the laser system and raise the laser setup a known distance from the water, but enough to shoot over waves. Split the beam so that it is sent in the direction of both the bow and the stern.

Get two more boats with laser detectors on board. Have the boats follow the path of the laser in both of the directions. Every mile, have the boats plot the height of the laser beam along a distance axis.

Guess what *actually* happens? The boats doing the measuring will find that both beams rise following a curve. With precise enough equipment, it is detectable without vast distances being required.

Please tell me what mechanism within a flat earth would cause a laser beam to bend upwards, against the force of gravity.
Seriously.

Love,
Derpenstein.

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