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Flat Earth Debate / Flat earth shattered
« on: June 10, 2016, 12:03:57 PM »
Video at this link: http://www.adventure-network.com/experiences/south-pole-flights

Or are you going to cry fake like every other piece of evidence you can't disprove?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: GEODESY
« on: June 10, 2016, 11:47:46 AM »
The Earth's surface is flat and non-euclidean.

You say this because it's the only possible way for you to explain things. But, why do you make up stuff like "the earth is non-euclidean" rather than admit you're wrong?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Circumnavigation
« on: June 10, 2016, 11:45:54 AM »
John Davis's FE theory says the earth is a finite and non-euclidean plane. Even if the earth is flat, it behaves and looks like a sphere, so we can navigate on it any way we desire.

Well, it's more complicated than that, but you can ask him and he'll explain better.

Well, if it behaves and looks like a sphere, then why do you make up crazy stuff like  earth being non-euclidean rather than admit you're wrong?!

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Another thing: On a flat Earth, one must keep consciously turning north as they go west or east, because all straight lines on a flat Earth go south. On a round Earth, one can go in a straight line infinitely. Also, why do you thing you can't make a distortion free FE map? Because the surface of a sphere cannot be flattened out without gaps!

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Antarctic Ice Wall? BS!
« on: June 04, 2016, 05:34:12 AM »
Typical Flst-Earthers. When your theories fall apart, you scream "LIARS!"

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Not according to my Simulation that proves the earth must be round.



Seeing this, it shows how the earth revolves around the sun to provide america with light while china is in moon

nice picture with a fisheye lens you goof
also you can clearly see its a flat disk the curvature there is just the boundary of the disk
also you can see the sun is close above it

disproved!!!!!!


If my image is false, send me a true flat earth picture, not a drawing or anything.


do you see any curvature?
no?

so its impossible for the earth to be round if its flat.

Don't know about you, but I see the curvature. Look closely at the horizon!

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Sorry for being unclear. Still, you're making assumptions. It is not "literally impossible". Implausible? Yes. Impossible? No. Plus, nice cherry-picking. You ignored the other ones because the arguments for them have been obliterated.

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1. Other planets are round

According to Flat Earth Theory, the Earth and other planets are not really the same type of celestial body. To put it another way, which I'm sure everyone everywhere will take offense to, the Earth is different.

There's no indication that Earth is a different type of celestial body. You made this up, to support your conclusion that the Earth is flat.

2. Time Zones

This is the first of a trend in this video, in which Henry (the host of MinutePhysics, for those not subscribed) assumes that the Flat Earth is exactly the same as the Round Earth in every way except for shape. The sun works in a manner similar to a spotlight in Flat Earth Theory, which is why time zones exist. When the Sun isn't pointing overhead, it's nighttime.

This may work well for the equator, but the poles? Not so much.

3. The Coriolis Effect

Once again, Henry is making assumptions. There are a few differing opinions about this, as Flat Earth Theory is not a unified theory. Some people doubt the existence of Coriolis as anything more than a theorized force, as the evidence for it is largely contrived. Others have various explanations for it, such as the Shadow of the Aetheric Wind theorized by myself.

A theorized force? Yeah, right. There's clear evidence for the existence for the Coriolis Effect. Also, Aetheric Wind. Ahh, Aether. Your go-to made-up material when you have no explanation!

4. Triangles

This is little more than conjecture. It is literally impossible to perform this experiment on the scale required.

Literally impossible? No. Implausible? Yes. But you can prove the Earth's curvature if you do decide to go to the north pole by going 1 km south, 1 km east and 1 km north. You'll end up back where you started. On a flat earth, you'd end up a kilometer west.

5. The Sun

Henry is assuming again. The Sun's apparent movement is caused by the Sun actually moving. As for Eratosthenes's famous experiment to measure the diameter of the Earth, that assumes a Round Earth. If we assume a Flat Earth, the same experiment gives us the distance to the Sun.

Okay, seriously. You guys looked for crazy ways to explain your conclusion, because that's where you started, instead of following the scientific process, which says to form a conclusion from the evidence. In reality, a moving, tilted, round earth could easily explain it all without having to move an entire star. Also, What do the other planets orbit around. Don't tell me you guys think they're overly tiny, too.

6. Stars Change

Another assumption. This time, he's assuming that FE geography is just a Mercator map. It's not. The Earth is a disk centered around the North Pole, which would provide the same effect.

No, it wouldn't. This is where your theories begin to really falter. If the sun is a spotlight, we should be able to see every star in the sky when it isn't pointing at us. If it isn't a spotlight, we should be able to see it everywhere at once, at all hours of the day.

7. Magellan

Again, the Earth isn't in the shape of a Mercator map. That would be silly. Magellan and many others simply made a circle around the disk of the Earth.

What held them on? This leads to an interesting point: On a flat Earth, all straight lines go south.

8. The Horizon

This is just a perspective effect. First of all, apparently large waves will obscure apparently small objects. Therefore, looking out long distances over water you will of course be unable to see land on the other side. In addition, refraction has an effect. Some flat Earthers theorize an electromagnetic acceleration which appears to bend light upward.

I admit you're correct about waves obscuring things. But that doesn't change it. Even if there are no apparently large waves occurring, you still can't see Spain from the USA. And you flat earthers made up the "electromagnetic acceleration" to support your flat earth lies.

9. Eclipses

Eclipses are caused by the sun going behind the moon, or vice versa. It's that simple. Once again, Henry is assuming everything is exactly the same.

Lunar eclipses. The moon behind the sun would cause only the sun to be visible, not darken the moon.

10. Photographic Evidence

Most photographic evidence actually demonstrates what we would expect to see on a disk shaped, flat Earth: a circle with little to no apparent curvature. Add in camera distortion, and that's our explanation for low Earth photos. As for photos like the famous Blue Marble, that the space agencies of the World are involved in a conspiracy is depressingly obvious if you look at the evidence.

No, it doesn't. No photo shows the whole surface of the Earth, like it should on a flat Earth. And why would you make up such a massive conspiracy, accusing millions of people, rather than admit you're wrong.

IT'S ALL JUST STUPIDITY

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: ISS Live Stream can't be faked, can it?
« on: May 28, 2016, 07:29:10 AM »
And managed to keep them up and running, non-stop and on time for over 10 years and counting.

I think they have more than one, a good percentage of the contrail planes double up as the ISS, the trick is getting the right one to decloak at the right time.

Watch that spelling!

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Map
« on: May 28, 2016, 07:24:47 AM »
We've got a rocket (singular noun), the rocket fuel (singular noun), and that's two objects (two singular nouns)! There you go, satisfied?

Don't forget the rocket engine - that's three, Rainman.

And the fuel tank - that's four, Rainman.

And the fuel pump - that's five, Rainman.

And the astronaut- that's six, Rainman.

Where will all this counting stop, Rainman?

When they find a cure for your autism?

Or after you hit it big in Vegas & use the proceeds to buy a live-in hugbox you never have to leave again?

Oh, & Geoff; STFU.
Watch that spelling, bro.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: seasons
« on: May 28, 2016, 05:54:21 AM »
Seasons, eh? What about Polar Seasons?

Especially during the equinoxes, when both the entire outer ice sheet and the North Pole are supposedly lit all day, which, to keep your precious spotlight sun, would have to mean that there was no night, anywhere on Earth.

But, on a round earth model, sun perpendicular to the earth's axial plane (I.E the equinoxes) can cause both poles to be illuminated.

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Firstly, hello! I'm Joe, and I'm new to this site. I've been researching FE in depth for a while now, and I'm looking forward to some intelligent discussion on this forum.

One thing that round earth theory relies on, but I've never seen justified, is the unending spin of the earth. Spin anything, anywhere, and you'll see that it eventually slows down. The same would be true for a globe earth - even if it starts off spinning at a gazillion miles per hour, it won't be spinning that fast for very long, and it certainly won't keep spinning for millions of years! Because everything observed slows down when spun, and round earth theory is a claim that opposes this, the burden of proof is on the round earth theory believers to justify why earth keeps spinning so fast.

So basically, how does your theory explain the spinning of the earth after all this time?  :-\

All spinning objects eventually run out of spin. The earth being in a vacuum doesn't encounter much resistance but what little resistance there is will eventually slow down the earth. As a young earth creationist this doesn't really cause a problem for me. But it does cause a problem for those believing in an old earth somewhere along the line.

So you're telling me you want ignore all the evidence that the Earth is billions of years old? Stupidity, stupidity everywhere.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: God's Creation
« on: May 28, 2016, 05:43:51 AM »
Aside from NASA, the 2nd law of thermodynamics was the stupidest thing we ever created. The world would be so much more peaceful.
Sorry to be late posting. Guess I can use the old time zone excuse.
What on earth do you mean by "the 2nd law of thermodynamics was the stupidest thing we ever created"?

How did you come up with that?

The laws of nature were not something "we created", but were discovered, like Newton's Laws of Motion, etc.

Exactly. And plus, this post is just using religion to say "we don't have to explain ourselves, the earth is flat because REASONS!" This is basically saying "magic" is holding us onto the Earth. Sorry, Flat-Earthers, but you cannot cry God when we shatter your theories. Just make new ones or accept the world's rotundity.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Map
« on: May 28, 2016, 05:39:14 AM »
AHAHAHAH YOU ALL MAKE ME LAUGH A LOT GUYS.

I was an atheist, I just found out there's a GOD, and my whole life changed.
Never felt better before, I'm full of joy and my energy is intense.
even in my atheist phase, I've always managed to be a good person, because love, empathy, real enlightment, joy, peace, love for life etc. has always been there. I had faith in science, till I realized you hijacked science thousands years ago, and that it's all a joke.

god creation is everywhere, I gave a look at things from another point of view and understood everything.

you're exposed in my eyes. but you'll lose.
may GOD save your soul anyway.
I'm a son of god, we all are, but I know because I've faith, in the right one.


we are energy, and you sun-SIN-worshippers evil lesser human beings are a joke.

If atheists believed in a hell, that's where you'd go. There is no evidence for a God but a book and circular reasoning. Just saying, there may be a God but I just can't let myself blindly believe whatever a book tells me. If more evidence arises, fine.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Explain this, Flat-Earthers!
« on: May 28, 2016, 05:33:33 AM »
Of course this is just part of the conspiracy. I mean, if these phenomena existed, the FE-model with the sun moving in circles above the plane would be undeniably wrong, right?

And it is! They just deny any evidence that makes it wrong! Why? Because they are incredibly stubborn, in that they will never admit they are wrong, even though they undeniably are!

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Falling in a Flat Earth
« on: May 27, 2016, 09:11:12 PM »
Exactly, nothing! Since when does talking to yourself have any effect on anything? When they have no pseudo-scientific explanations for their "theories" they just turn to religion. They'd rather go to all this trouble than admit they're wrong.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Falling in a Flat Earth
« on: May 27, 2016, 08:57:37 PM »
The flat earth is established, it cannot be moved.  It does not move whatsoever.
So what holds you onto it?
Air pressure. 
And what, exactly, holds the air on?

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The Earth has been spinning since its formation, and here's why:

Material closer to the sun moved faster than material farther away in the proto-disk. When it clumped together under gravity, this motion made it spin. Due to a lack of friction (apart from a few tidal forces, which by the way, ARE slowly slowing the Earth's rotation) the Earth continues to rotate.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: God's Creation
« on: May 27, 2016, 08:45:27 PM »
"God's Creation"

Really? Do you REALLY have to bring religion into this?

Alright, I'll shatter it.

You say to believe the Bible because it's infallible, as it is the word of God. But what evidence do you have, besides the Bible, that it's the word of God? It's like me destroying the moon by writing down "I blew up the moon today." Your circular logic gives no reason to believe the Bible, except that it's a book. Don't believe everything you read.

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Flat Earth Debate / Explain this, Flat-Earthers!
« on: May 27, 2016, 08:38:02 PM »
Alright. Here it comes.

Antarctic Summer.

At the region directly around the southernmost part of the Earth, which here I will refer to as the South Pole (despite your claims that there is no such thing.) In the area directly around the south pole, you know, the area at the very edge of your Earth? Well, it experiences 24-hour sun around the summer solstice. Therefore, on your model, the sun would have to illuminate the entire Earth at once. This would mean that nowhere on Earth would it be night! Explain that!

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Antarctic Ice Wall DEBUNKED!
« on: May 22, 2016, 05:41:11 AM »
Okay. Well, let me ask you a question, Flat Earthers. What makes the Sun move around, if it moves as a spotlight?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Antarctic Ice Wall DEBUNKED!
« on: May 21, 2016, 09:03:59 PM »
I can present plenty of evidence. I've stated some less obvious stuff here. Here's my one-word answer to competely debunk all FET:

GRAVITY


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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Antarctic Ice Wall DEBUNKED!
« on: May 21, 2016, 08:52:56 PM »
Satanic? I knew religious nutjobs had something to do with this! I knew it! It's your ace in the hole! When you can't explain something, you just cry Satan!

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Antarctic Ice Wall DEBUNKED!
« on: May 21, 2016, 08:44:48 PM »
If there is a dome why has no one bumped into it? Also, people have reached the South Pole in the past.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Antarctic Ice Wall DEBUNKED!
« on: May 21, 2016, 08:24:14 PM »
No. I may not have been clear. I was asking seperate questions: A. If there is no gravity, why don't people going in a straight line eventually go off the edge? B. How do volcanoes work? C. What's on the other side?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Antarctic Ice Wall DEBUNKED!
« on: May 21, 2016, 08:17:53 PM »
I dare you to poke one hole in my logic.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Antarctic Ice Wall DEBUNKED!
« on: May 21, 2016, 08:14:51 PM »
"Attempt"?
I'm sorry, I believe I debunked it, not just "attempted to". Can your flat earth explain it? If not, I've debunked it! Simple! I've seen this a lot. When you flat earthers realize you've lost, you take to personal insults.

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Flat Earth Debate / Antarctic Ice Wall DEBUNKED!
« on: May 21, 2016, 08:04:30 PM »
If gravity is a lie (which it would have to be for a flat earth to exist) and the Earth is accelerating through space at 9.81 m/s/s, then what's to keep us from falling off the edge, or rather, going off the edge and the Earth shooting ahead? Also, what about volcanoes? What's on the other side of Earth? See? So many questions and problems with your theory!

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