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That's the problem a lot of people have with flat earthers. They don't seem to accept just one model.A lot of people? What people?
What is the problem??
It frustrates the roundies because we are independent thinkers.
In the current Flat Earth Model, what holds you back to Earth is the fact that our planet is going up. So, how can you die by falling too high(or why don't you die when you jump)?
On the Globe Earth model, we explain that with gravity, wich pushes you faster and faster onto the surface. But, in a Flat Earth, the planet accelerates, but doesn't bypass the speed of light. So, in a Flat Earth, falling from 50cm and falling from 8000m makes no difference at all. How do you explain that?
It makes no differrent if you bump into a car or a car bumps into you. If you jump from a mountain, the earth plane has more time accelerating towards you, than when you jump from your table. Don't forget: in your frame of reference the earth plane does not move with almost c. So relativistic effects do not have to be considered in your suicide attempt.
Interesting, but what if there was something making me go down? Imagine a wall that is 8000 meters tall. On the side of the wall, there is a cannon that launches a person down at 54 m/s (terminal velocity). On a Flat Earth, I would touch the surface faster because the Earth is also accelerating upwards, wouldn't I?
No, because the cannon ball retains the same upward move that it had when it was still inside the cannon and thus connected with the earth plane. It already had the same velocity as the earth plane when you fired it.
In the current Flat Earth Model, what holds you back to Earth is the fact that our planet is going up.Stop. You are being misinformed.
I know, this website says the Earth is accelerating upwards. Unfortunately, that is not proven. I believe it is deliberate misinformation to make the true-earthers appear insane.
The planet going up makes no sense to you. You are right. The planet is not going up.Air pressure.The flat earth is established, it cannot be moved. It does not move whatsoever.So what holds you onto it?
Your body is denser than the surrounding air. Air pressure pulls the apple and the water drop down to the ground.
This an aspect of physics that man takes for granted with every breath he takes.
Molecules are constantly vibrating at a microscopic level. They vibrate in the same plane as your eye-balls are located: horizontally.
As such, the net effect of different sized/density molecules vibrating side-by-each is that the denser molecules are pushed down while the smaller/less dense molecules are pushed up. That is the way we are all made.
In the current Flat Earth Model, what holds you back to Earth is the fact that our planet is going up. So, how can you die by falling too high(or why don't you die when you jump)?
On the Globe Earth model, we explain that with gravity, wich pushes you faster and faster onto the surface. But, in a Flat Earth, the planet accelerates, but doesn't bypass the speed of light. So, in a Flat Earth, falling from 50cm and falling from 8000m makes no difference at all. How do you explain that?
It makes no differrent if you bump into a car or a car bumps into you. If you jump from a mountain, the earth plane has more time accelerating towards you, than when you jump from your table. Don't forget: in your frame of reference the earth plane does not move with almost c. So relativistic effects do not have to be considered in your suicide attempt.
The flat earth is established, it cannot be moved. It does not move whatsoever.
Regardless, I'm not claiming their position is logically tenable, only that as a proof this argument doesn't work.
There is no such thing as a purely logical argument
Well, flat earthers generally use purely logical arguments like:
"Look outside your window and you will see that the horizon doesn't curve. Therefore, the earth is flat."
"If there are so many sattelites in space, why they don't fall into the atmosphere in a meteor shower?"
"If the atmosphere is made of gases and it stays on Earth, it must be held by something."
And that's a problem, too many logical arguments and no evidence or education to back them up.
Agree, although i must say that the arguments you mention are quite shaky logically speaking. It doesnt necessarily follow from the first argument that the earth is flat, unless you also believe that everything we see with our eyes is as things really are.
There is no such thing as a purely logical argument
That would settle the debate, but FE's never do experiments to confirm anything. And, even if they did, they would say NASA changed Antartica or put them in a virtual world or something
So basically, all the FE believers are current societies Sheldon Coopers, they refuse to accept they're wrong.
Some are definitely trolls (some more entertaining than others, there were a few threads a while back where someone straight-faced argued for the non-existence of air. That was fun). Some are more likely to be serious.
Wow
Even IF a FE appeared, we wouldn't be able to convince him. It's confirmation bias: http://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/confirmation_bias.htm
Indeed, I was going to mention this. TheEngineer is a forum moderator, and his low-quality posts are making me ponder the fact he is just here for fun.