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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: any observations that support flat earth and not round earth?

« on: June 04, 2008, 07:50:33 PM »

And how far does it drift before you correct it after 15min?

About 5 degrees if I remember correctly.

The next time you get a chance, would you mind measuring it (while the plane isn't moving)? If it's 15deg/hr (3.75deg/15min) I might die from laughing.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: any observations that support flat earth and not round earth?

« on: June 04, 2008, 12:09:15 PM »

It is one example of gravity not behaving the way you think it does.

But it seems to reinforce the false view of gravity you RE'ers have.

Yes, it does reinforce the RE theory of gravity. That is the point.

Perhaps you missed the part where I said 'false'.

If gyroscopes weren't balanced, they wouldn't be useful; the intention is for them to maintain their pointing direction regardless of the motion of whatever ship or aircraft they are inside, and if they were imbalanced, the weight of the imbalance would throw them off.

They are subject to drift.  I have to readjust mine normally every 15 minutes.

I saw the word false. It looks like you are asserting that you are right while admitting that I have provided evidence that you are not. That confuses me.
What kind of gyroscope do you use (and how expensive is it)? Do you use it in a boat or plane? Does it drift while stationary or just while moving? And how far does it drift before you correct it after 15min?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: any observations that support flat earth and not round earth?

« on: May 28, 2008, 08:07:13 PM »

It is one example of gravity not behaving the way you think it does.

But it seems to reinforce the false view of gravity you RE'ers have.

Yes, it does reinforce the RE theory of gravity. That is the point.

Many of them have already been brought up in these forums, and never satisfactorily answered.

Actually, they have. Do a search.

The purpose of this post is to ask what, if any observations do you claim support a flat earth model, that do not support a round earth model?

Read Earth Not a Globe.

This site has enough forums on it that even with a search, it's hard to find things. The posts I've looked at so far haven't had any impressive responses, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. It would be better if people who notice a repeat post immediately inserted a link to the previous post, and then had moderators remove the repeat. I wish you had provided a link to Earth not a Globe; I just assumed you were trying to get me to buy something. For anyone else reading this, it can be accessed at
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/index.htm and does have a list of flat earth supporting experiments, as I had requested in my first post. I'll start reading it.

You mentioned the Foucault Pendulum and claim it's just some "celestial spheres" effect, but ignore gyroscopes that show the same inertial effects

Presumably the weight of the gyroscope is also affected by the the rotating celestial systems overhead.

If gyroscopes weren't balanced, they wouldn't be useful; the intention is for them to maintain their pointing direction regardless of the motion of whatever ship or aircraft they are inside, and if they were imbalanced, the weight of the imbalance would throw them off.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: any observations that support flat earth and not round earth?

« on: May 28, 2008, 08:05:48 AM »

The ship was not my primary example, it was actually added as an afterthought. Since ships with large sails aren't very common, this kind of observation isn't very likely anymore. I'd like to see if the same thing would happen with a hot air balloon. I'll let you know when I manage that.
Right now, I think the strongest point is that the sun rises and sets. Your spotlight doesn't allow for that. I've observed that.
I never mentioned lunar eclipses.
The Cavendish experiment has nothing to do with the shape of the earth. It demonstrates gravitational attraction between two small masses. It is one example of gravity not behaving the way you think it does.
Using the Eratosthenes experiment to calculate the radius of the earth does assume the earth is round, however even without that assumption, it still tells you the angle between "down" at one location and "down" at another location. Doing similar experiments repeatedly could give one the entire shape of the earth.
You mentioned the Foucault Pendulum and claim it's just some "celestial spheres" effect, but ignore gyroscopes that show the same inertial effects
I had never heard of the Allais effect. I'll look into it. What other anomalies are you aware of in a RE model?

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Flat Earth Q&A / any observations that support flat earth and not round earth?

« on: May 27, 2008, 08:23:10 PM »

There are many observations one can make that fit a round earth model but not a flat earth one. Many of them have already been brought up in these forums, and never satisfactorily answered. To save space and repetition here, I will simply provide a link (http://qbsmd.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!5BA0601679A003C2!111.entry) containing all of those observations. The purpose of this post is to ask what, if any observations do you claim support a flat earth model, that do not support a round earth model?