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Flat Earth Debate / Re: A challenge for every Flat earth believer.

« on: September 16, 2015, 06:27:13 AM »

You failed once again.

Not from my perspective.  I see a success. 
The way I see things is that you revealed too much ---- once again. 

You are a terrible shill. 

You gave me your explanation regarding sun rays or crepuscular ray from a FE perspective which is off topic and i provided a response even though i shouldn't, i see no proper explanation on what i'm talking about, how dare you call this a 'success' ?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: A challenge for every Flat earth believer.

« on: September 15, 2015, 03:48:50 PM »

Which proof ?..., A spotlight moving around above the earth is what the FE says, i debunked this claim with a simple observation since the FE hypothesis -with its spotlight- go against what's observable.

Your drawing of clouds and a flat earth misrepresents reality. 
 

I (intentionally) drew the FE model with sun rays coming perpendicular to the surface so they can correct me to make the flaw clearly noticeable, with a triangular incoming sunlight you would see the opposite of what's happening in reality, clouds will appear to get darker beginning from the top of the clouds, in reality we can see clouds getting darker beginning from the cloud base.
here's a vid, compare t=4:12 with t=5:16
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now twist your mind and explain this in your FE model without coming with some crazy assumptions such as 'Oh!! it must be the light zigzaging or bouncing creating a sort of an illusion' or any similar kind of bullshit.

Here is proof: 
Next time you see clouds in and around the sun,  Look up in the sky.  You will see triangulation of the sun's rays just like you drew them in kindergarten.  Nothing has changed except your brain has been used. 

What kind of triangulation you are talking about? ... crepuscular rays i guess which is OFF TOPIC, i'm talking about the change of the portion of the cloud still receiving light directly from the sun during 'sunset'.

Every day, we see triangulation of the sun's rays through the clouds.  How do they explain that?  They say it is an illusion.  Let them explain their illusion.  It is not the job of honest folks to explain their illusions. 
It is not an illusion.

Here's a better explanation with no triangular sun rays but parallel instead (no illusions involved).
http://www.atoptics.co.uk/atoptics/rayform.htm

You failed once again.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: A challenge for every Flat earth believer.

« on: September 15, 2015, 07:33:24 AM »

It's a necessary fact that, if the world is flat, light will not behave as you're used to. We can see this by observing the horizon, or the sunset.

Take a ball and place some rods and light the ball while rotating it, repeat this experiment using a flat surface using a spotlight above the surface and witness how light behave. 

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: A challenge for every Flat earth believer.

« on: September 15, 2015, 07:12:06 AM »

No.  You are thinking completely backwards. 
What you observe is proof that the sun is turning around above the earth. 

Which proof ?..., A spotlight moving around above the earth is what the FE says, i debunked this claim with a simple observation since the FE hypothesis -with its spotlight- go against what's observable.

Since you researched it all and you discovered so many flaws, how about you stop wasting everybody's time and post a scale drawing to prove your ridiculous assertion. 

Draw a sketch of a cloud with the shadow parts and the light parts.  Prove your assertion instead of asking sane people to do your insane homework. 

You probably misunderstood the whole concept.
A scale isn't really necessary to demonstrate this observation, all we need is a round curved surface.
And i guess this is a debate forum, drop some useful arguments or else leave.

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Flat Earth Debate / A challenge for every Flat earth believer.

« on: September 14, 2015, 04:32:04 PM »

Hi everyone,
New to this forum, i've heard of the Flat earth thing quite a while ago, i'm not a FE believer nor i will be, i challenged myself to try to prove the spherical earth without satellite imagery pretending to be in an ancient era with least technological advances cause i do not consider satellite to be a kind of a conspiracy, i'm a student of meteorology btw which obviously imply working with satellite imagery in a daily basis
After investigating the flat earth model i discovered so many flaws one of which i never heard someone talking about (as far as i know), so i'm gonna challenge any strong flat earth believer to try and explain this simple phenomenon observable every sunset and sunrise.
In an unstable atmosphere(i.e strong vertical motion) clouds will form with a significant vertical development, in a stage we will find what we call TCU clouds(towering Cumulus) or Thunderclouds(Cumulonimbus) .
we have two observations
I) in a sunset with the presence of TCU clouds you can notice how the reflected light from the clouds gradually change from a whole shining cloud to a fully dark cloud beginning from it's base into it's summit with a perfect sink while the sun go below the horizon, this is impossible in a flat earth, i'll put a pic and a video demonstrating this observation.
II) In a sunset with the existence of both low level Cumulus and high level Cirrus you can notice both the change of the color of the clouds and the clouds still facing the sun from the lowest clouds into the highest clouds.

I'm not a native English speaker, pls excuse any grammatical error.

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