1
Flat Earth Debate / Re: Satellite image of earth
« on: September 15, 2015, 11:07:14 PM »
Any thoughts from flat earthers? 
Show Posts
This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.
Pages: [1]
2
Flat Earth Debate / Satellite image of earth
« on: September 15, 2015, 08:48:50 AM »
Apologies if this has already been discussed. I found what is apparently a single image (and movie) taken of earth from a russian satellite called electro-L see links below for more infomation:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2142884/Earth-Stunning-picture-Russian-weather-satellite-shows-definitive-image-planet.html
http://eng.ntsomz.ru/electro
It looks a lot more convincing to me than anything from NASA - I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2142884/Earth-Stunning-picture-Russian-weather-satellite-shows-definitive-image-planet.html
http://eng.ntsomz.ru/electro
It looks a lot more convincing to me than anything from NASA - I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts?
3
Flat Earth Q&A / The visibility of the sun
« on: September 11, 2015, 05:38:24 AM »
This may be a completely ridiculus question, but it occured to me if the sun really is 149 million kilometers from earth - shouldn't it be almost invisible due to the vanishing point when viewed unaided from earth?
4
Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Has anyone carried out this simple weight experiment?
« on: August 25, 2015, 05:38:50 AM »
So if I understand correctly - the weight of an object is primarily affected by earths gravity which varies in different locations due to the oblateness of the earth. The centrifugal force (which I am intestested measuring which provides evidence of a spinning globe) is only a fraction of the force of gravity and therefore difficult to discern from the overall forces which have an effect on the weight of an object especially where there are other variables involved.
It appears my experiment is flawed as it is impossible to measure the centrifugal force seperately from the force of gravity (of earth/moon/sun). I dont have any formal training in this kind of stuff but I guess it may be possible to theoretically work out based on a spinning oblate globe model what proportion of force should be applied to the force of gravity (need to know rough distance to centre of earth from any particular location?) and what proportion is applied to the centrifugal force and then compare the calculations to actual readings (i.e. gnome experiment).
I don't think even then that the results would be conclusive as there are probably many many variables at work.
It appears my experiment is flawed as it is impossible to measure the centrifugal force seperately from the force of gravity (of earth/moon/sun). I dont have any formal training in this kind of stuff but I guess it may be possible to theoretically work out based on a spinning oblate globe model what proportion of force should be applied to the force of gravity (need to know rough distance to centre of earth from any particular location?) and what proportion is applied to the centrifugal force and then compare the calculations to actual readings (i.e. gnome experiment).
I don't think even then that the results would be conclusive as there are probably many many variables at work.
5
Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Has anyone carried out this simple weight experiment?
« on: August 24, 2015, 12:52:30 AM »
Thanks for the replies - very helpful forum!.
The local gravity calculator states the following: This local gravity calculator determines the theoretical acceleration due to gravity at a particular location. If the actual local gravity value is not known this calculator will provide a close estimate by correcting for latitude and height above sea level.
I was wondering - unless i'm mistaken - it doesn't seem to take into account the loss of weight of an object due to the centrifugal force of the planet? I also understand that the gravitational pull of the moon and sun would have a effect albeit very small.
I was also wondering if a better experiment could be devised. Ideally multiple readings taken from different locations on the planet would offer better results than a single reading. It would be possible to prepare a simple package which would contain the following:
1 - Precision scales (or 2/3 sets ideally)
2 - 20 gram weight
3 - Log book containing time, date, location coordinates, height above sea level, anticipated weight, actual weight etc.
4 - lint free gloves or cloth.
5 - Spirit level.
6 - Set of instructions.
If I prepared the equipment - I could take a reading from england and then post the equipment to another (trusted?)member on the forum and the procedure repeated until we have a few readings. We would have to agree the method on how to calculate the anticipated loss in weight based on the globe model to make a fair comparison of the figures.
Does anyone think this is a good idea?
Q.
I started doing all the necessary calculations when I figured out that a gravity strength calculator is a thing that exists. :
The local gravity calculator states the following: This local gravity calculator determines the theoretical acceleration due to gravity at a particular location. If the actual local gravity value is not known this calculator will provide a close estimate by correcting for latitude and height above sea level.
I was wondering - unless i'm mistaken - it doesn't seem to take into account the loss of weight of an object due to the centrifugal force of the planet? I also understand that the gravitational pull of the moon and sun would have a effect albeit very small.
I was also wondering if a better experiment could be devised. Ideally multiple readings taken from different locations on the planet would offer better results than a single reading. It would be possible to prepare a simple package which would contain the following:
1 - Precision scales (or 2/3 sets ideally)
2 - 20 gram weight
3 - Log book containing time, date, location coordinates, height above sea level, anticipated weight, actual weight etc.
4 - lint free gloves or cloth.
5 - Spirit level.
6 - Set of instructions.
If I prepared the equipment - I could take a reading from england and then post the equipment to another (trusted?)member on the forum and the procedure repeated until we have a few readings. We would have to agree the method on how to calculate the anticipated loss in weight based on the globe model to make a fair comparison of the figures.
Does anyone think this is a good idea?
Q.
6
Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Has anyone carried out this simple weight experiment?
« on: August 23, 2015, 11:55:14 AM »
Ive carried out a quick rough calc and I believe there should be a drop in weight of approx 0.0115 grams between the locations I have stated above. (unless i have calculated it totally wrong which is very possible)
7
Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Has anyone carried out this simple weight experiment?
« on: August 23, 2015, 11:22:32 AM »
I was thinking about buying a digital precision scale for jewelry which would have an accuracy of 0.001 gram and weigh a maximum 30 grams. Ill obtain a 20 gram weight which will be weighed in Newcastle upon Tyne in England and I can take another measurement in San Antonio, Ibiza.
If you could provide some calcs that would be a great help thanks Mikeman.
If you could provide some calcs that would be a great help thanks Mikeman.
8
Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Has anyone carried out this simple weight experiment?
« on: August 23, 2015, 10:07:12 AM »
I'd like to see the results of the experiment or if anyone has carried out the experiment can explain their findings - if not i'll do it myself on my next trip abroad with a sensitive set of scales! - thanks.
9
Flat Earth Q&A / Has anyone carried out this simple weight experiment?
« on: August 23, 2015, 06:30:06 AM »
Hi I'm new to the flat earth theory and having read a great deal of material on the topic I am starting to formulate some questions of my own.
I have done a quick search but can't find a definitive answer to the question below however please forgive me if it has already been answered.
If we consider the globe model if the earth, (as far as I understand, please correct me if I'm wrong) there are 2 main forces which determine the weight of an object on the earths surface: The downward force of gravity and the upward centrifugal force which is at its greatest at the equator and diminishes the further we travel towards the poles.
A quick search reveals that 1kg at the poles would lose 4 grams of weight at the equator due to the centrifugal force of the planet.
This seems a very simple experiment to carry out only requiring a set of scales and the means to travel.
Has anyone actually performed this simple experiment? If there is in fact a loss of weight at the equator would this not be pretty solid evidence of a spinning globe model?
Also if this is true does any find it a bit disturbing that a kg actually weighs less at the equator (or conversely, more at the poles). Thanks!
Q.
I have done a quick search but can't find a definitive answer to the question below however please forgive me if it has already been answered.
If we consider the globe model if the earth, (as far as I understand, please correct me if I'm wrong) there are 2 main forces which determine the weight of an object on the earths surface: The downward force of gravity and the upward centrifugal force which is at its greatest at the equator and diminishes the further we travel towards the poles.
A quick search reveals that 1kg at the poles would lose 4 grams of weight at the equator due to the centrifugal force of the planet.
This seems a very simple experiment to carry out only requiring a set of scales and the means to travel.
Has anyone actually performed this simple experiment? If there is in fact a loss of weight at the equator would this not be pretty solid evidence of a spinning globe model?
Also if this is true does any find it a bit disturbing that a kg actually weighs less at the equator (or conversely, more at the poles). Thanks!
Q.
Pages: [1]