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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: another question for y'all
« on: November 04, 2007, 11:26:56 AM »
www.dictionary.com = "The apparent intersection of the earth and sky as seen by an observer"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/ = " a: the apparent junction of earth and sky b: the great circle on the celestial sphere formed by the intersection of the celestial sphere with a plane tangent to the earth's surface at an observer's position "

thus my point being... if the horizon is an intersection of the earth and the sky... that is because the earth is round and it appears that the round sky meets the surface of the earth.  if it is flat... then both the sky and the earth would stretch straight... there would be no appearance that the sky was meeting the earth because they would run parallel to each other...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: I'm new too...so what about 24-hour days in Icewall?
« on: November 04, 2007, 11:17:23 AM »
you can go ahead and stand in Antarctica on 21st December, and trust me, you'll get 24 hours of light.

Seriously, if you don't believe me, do it.

that's what i'm talkin' about.  these people need to actually go out and experience some things.  i'm starting to feel like flat earthers are hermits that have been holed up in houses in small towns.  they need to travel a bit... visit antarctia on the 21st of december like you suggested... or go to alaska a couple days before, stay during, and a couple days after the summer and winter soltices... (http://www.alaska.com/about/weather/story/4481284p-4773632c.html)... hell, if i was rich, i'd find the president of this so called flat earth society, and i'd pay to put him up in a space shuttle.  we'd see who was talking about the earth being flat after that. 

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: questions your Q&A inspired...
« on: November 04, 2007, 11:03:26 AM »
simply put: FE'rs believe the planet earth is the SOLE exeption to EVERY law of physics in the entire UNIVERSE!

i'd like to hear how their absurd "universal accelleration" keeps jupiter's moons from flying away, or saturn's rings.

let me fly off on a tangent of some sort here... i'm going to reason the way the flat earth believers do and see if we can come up with another strange theory.

if earth is the exception to everything else in the universe... that would make earth better than everything else.  i mean, if earth defies all laws of physics, then it must be better than everything else.  and if it defies all laws of physics, then it exists outside reality.  if it exists outside of reality, and it is better than everything else, then essentially isn't earth heaven?  or some other after life or dimension or something?? 

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: questions your Q&A inspired...
« on: November 04, 2007, 10:59:56 AM »
simply put: FE'rs believe the planet earth is the SOLE exeption to EVERY law of physics in the entire UNIVERSE!

i'd like to hear how their absurd "universal accelleration" keeps jupiter's moons from flying away, or saturn's rings.
They believe those have gravity.
No, gravity does not exist.

so in other words we are tied to the earth's surface by invisible strings that keep us from flying away and falling off the earth??

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: I have a question...
« on: November 04, 2007, 10:57:56 AM »
Only speculation would say that this refutes the flat Earth claims. I might as well use this as proof that the round Earth theory is incorrect, because it wouldn't do me any better than it does you. The fact remains that nobody that has sailed "around Antarctica" has been a logical scientist who wasn't under the control of the government (or, further, the conspiracy)--whether known or unknown to us.

Such is that all that remains is speculation. If the Earth is round, it would be shorter. If the Earth is flat, it would be longer. Proof leans neither way.


~D-Draw

ok, but according to your flat earth theory, all scientists and government people are involved in this "conspiracy."  so you're always going to say that there is no logical scientist.  and i, as well as other people, believe you guys are a bunch of quacks. so any person you have create a map, or bring about "evidence," we would say was full of B.S., lying... and never went out to gather any evidence.  so how do you propose a solution to your issue of proving the earth is flat????

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: another question for y'all
« on: November 04, 2007, 10:52:19 AM »
FE has a horizon because you see a horizon, if FE did not have one FE would not be the haphazard theory it is today.

wow that answer is as pathetic as "i exist. therefore i am."  or "i am because i say i am."

and all the rest of you... nobody answered my question.  nobody explained how your horizon exists.  nobody's eyes are just going to stop seeing after so far of a distance.  sure, things won't be clear.  they get all smugged together and blurry... but essentially your eyes can pick up light for as far as space will allow. 

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: questions your Q&A inspired...
« on: November 03, 2007, 10:16:54 PM »
you guys have sorta answered some of my questions... but you mostly evade my questions and don't answer them.  i'm a college graduate, there is no need to define words like "conspiracy," just answer by questions using observable and measurable evidence...

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Flat Earth Q&A / another question for y'all
« on: November 03, 2007, 10:14:50 PM »
given ample open space (i.e. ocean, prairie), one can see approximately 26 miles.  this is due to the curvature of the earth.  this is also called the horizon. 
in your theory, there is no curve to the earth.  therefore, one should be able to stand on one side of the earth and see to the other side of the earth.  only, i've been in the middle of the ocean.  i've been to the top of pike's peak.  i have not seen the end of the earth.  i have not seen this icewall-mountainrange known as antarctica.  why is this??

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Flat Earth Q&A / questions your Q&A inspired...
« on: November 03, 2007, 07:50:59 PM »
Feel free to answer 1, 3, or all 11... just post the number and your answer to it.

1.   What are the rocks resting on under the earth?  Or what are the elephants and turtle standing on?
2.   If, in fact, the earth is supported by elephants and a turtle, how do they eat?  And if one would die, wouldn’t the earth fall over?
3.   How did the elephants and the turtle get off the earth and under it?
4.   Elephants and turtles are severely different in sizes… how in the hell does this balance out that they can support the earth together??
5.   The government, NASA, and all the pilots on the earth are part of this “conspiracy”… how come my grandfather was a pilot, my friend’s dad is a pilot, and my boyfriend has had flying lessons, and my boyfriend’s uncle is an aeronautical engineer for the air force, but none of them believe the earth is flat?
6.   How can there be a conspiracy with no motive?  Do you really believe that all the governments in the world are lying to every person on the earth just so that they can kick back and laugh at us?
7.   Where are these “other planets?”  Why isn’t the earth one of the planets?  What makes earth special?  How are the “other planets” supported?
8.   So basically, the entire universe rests in our “sky” and is above us? 
9.   First, your Q&A claims there is a giant ice wall blocking us in, then it switches to saying it’s not really ice, but a mountain range… make up your mind.  Then, tell me how far this icewall-mountainrange stretches?  Wouldn’t that really be the edge of the earth… not the “ice wall?”
10.   Good job – you came up with some bizarre theory for lunar eclipses, but what about solar eclipses???

11.   There is a world sail boat race that takes place every year.  I have had the luxury of meeting some of these sailors twice.  They believe that they are sailing around the world.  They have not fallen off the edge of the world or ran into a huge ice wall… why is this????

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