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Flat Earth Debate / Is the whole world in on this?

« on: October 09, 2007, 09:07:55 PM »

In the FAQ it says that the US keeps the fact that Earth is flat from us because of some conspiracy. So, why, when I go to, say, China I could ask them the shape of the world and they'd tell me it is round? Is the whole world in on this conspiracy? I think not.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Question...

« on: October 07, 2007, 08:12:42 PM »

Heh, these get intense.

So, does a Flat-Earther want to describe why the Earth is accelerating upwards?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Question...

« on: October 04, 2007, 03:49:17 PM »

Okay, off of the air thing. Saying dark matter pushed Earth up is half-assed if you ask me.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Question...

« on: October 04, 2007, 02:18:45 PM »

Okay, I'll admit,  I was completely shut down on the Air Resistance thing. But answer this:

WHY is Earth accelerating upwards? What force compels it to do so? From a RE standpoint, the Universe rotates and spins and such due to the force of gravity, why does Earth move upwards from a FE standpoint?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Question...

« on: October 03, 2007, 08:43:47 PM »

But hear this: What about the law "Objects in motions stay in motion"? Are you going to tell me you don't believe that? What if you threw a ball at 9.8m/s^2, would it not just appear to stay in mid-air forever?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Question...

« on: October 03, 2007, 08:30:25 PM »

In other words, the ball stays still in space while the paper is pushed upward by the accelerating air, making them hit at different times.

Hmm.. You make a good argument, I'll let it sit for now. But another question: What's the force that keeps you sustained in mid-air if you are not on Earth?

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Question...

« on: October 03, 2007, 08:21:47 PM »

The air is sitting on top of the Earth moving upward at a rate of 9.8 m/s².  Therefore an object falling will accelerate through the air, creating air resistance.

But if the Earth was moving upward, it would hit the object. The air is irrelevant.

One more thing: Sputnik. Do not doubt it's existence. It was there, along with many other spectators.

Why is the air irrelevant?

Explain how it isn't.

It's your assertion. Support it or we'll just conclude that you're not worth the effort to educate.

Fine. If there is indeed air "sitting on top of Earth" that is moving at the same rate as Earth, Earth just barely collides with it, correct? So if I threw a ball in the air, Earth accelerates towards it, hitting it. If you threw a piece of paper into the air, Earth would do the same. Hit it. If the paper was thrown into the air at the same time as the ball, the Earth would hit it at the same time. It's hard to explain.. I'm a tad tired, but if ANYTHING fell, or rather, to you guys, hit by Earth, at a different rate than something else, it's impossible for Earth to be accelerating upward.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Question...

« on: October 03, 2007, 08:16:42 PM »

The air is sitting on top of the Earth moving upward at a rate of 9.8 m/s².  Therefore an object falling will accelerate through the air, creating air resistance.

But if the Earth was moving upward, it would hit the object. The air is irrelevant.

One more thing: Sputnik. Do not doubt it's existence. It was there, along with many other spectators.

Why is the air irrelevant?

Explain how it isn't.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Question...

« on: October 03, 2007, 08:16:08 PM »

The air is sitting on top of the Earth moving upward at a rate of 9.8 m/s².  Therefore an object falling will accelerate through the air, creating air resistance.

But if the Earth was moving upward, it would hit the object. The air is irrelevant.

Erm, you hit stuff with gravity too.  Please rephrase the question.

You don't understand. If you throw a target in the air, and then throw a ball at the target, it hits the target. Now, if the Earth is TRULY moving upwards, then if you dropped a piece of paper and a bowling ball off of the top of a building, Earth would collide with them at the same time.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Question...

« on: October 03, 2007, 08:12:00 PM »

The air is sitting on top of the Earth moving upward at a rate of 9.8 m/s².  Therefore an object falling will accelerate through the air, creating air resistance.

But if the Earth was moving upward, it would hit the object. The air is irrelevant.

One more thing: Sputnik. Do not doubt it's existence. It was there, along with many other spectators.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Question...

« on: October 03, 2007, 08:08:07 PM »

This stuff is pretty interesting, I want to say funny, but I don't want to offend anyone.

I mean, I can relate a little to people who say the moon landing was fake (Not saying I don't believe the moon landing). There were real motives then, and the theory of the Van Allen radiation belt says it's impossible as well. But these guys really don't have much of an argument. They have plenty of untested theories, however.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Question...

« on: October 03, 2007, 08:01:12 PM »

1) air resistance.  The air is moving upward also.

2) I don't know

3) Good point.

4) Well, I'm a Round Earther, so I'd have to say round.

Yes, I know what Air Resistance is, but that is only valid if you believe in Gravity, which FE believers do not consider real.

Another quicky: If the Earth is indeed moving upward, then the "bottom" of this cylinder would have absolutely nothing on it, it would have all fallen off.

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Flat Earth Debate / Question...

« on: October 03, 2007, 07:54:45 PM »

First off, I would like to say that I'm not here to "diss" your guys' theory, I think that it is very well thought out.

My question, though, is that why, when you drop, say, a bowling ball and a piece of paper at the same time that they do not reach the ground at the same time? If the Earth really was accelerating upward, wouldn't they hit the ground at the same time?

Another question: Why IS the Earth accelerating upward? There is no substantial evidence on your site that can prove me this, yet there are plenty of proofs for gravity.

One more: You say that the Government is blocking, or rather, denying access to these "ice walls", but it's impossible that it has always been that way. There has been no documentation of anyone, anywhere that has seen these "ice walls". Please do not tell me that the Government has removed any proof from existence, that would be nearly impossible.

Lastly: Do you raise your children having them believe the Earth is flat or round?

Please, take no offense, I am completely intrigued by your ideas and I don't judge any one of you.