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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Atheism = arrogance

« on: May 22, 2015, 02:22:34 PM »

And just for the record, I don't believe that atheism is the default position for human beings. I think the default position is agnosticism, as it is simply "I don't know", which is the truest statement you will find in this thread. I also consider myself an agnostic. Life is confusion, not certainty.

Despite what has been said above, if "i don't know" is your answer, you are an atheist. You may not be an anti-theist.

But how can you believe in a god you don't know exists?

Is it any less of a cop-out to say i believe in something but I don't know what? I would argue it is.  How do you validate a belief in "something" other than how it feels.

I consider myself an atheist. I do not KNOW that god does not exist. Therefore I cannot believe in it. I am willing to change that belief if otherwise convinced.

I do not KNOW that I don't have the ability to fly either. There is no evidence I can, and if I have the ability, I certainly do not know how to use it. I can't be 100% sure I can't actually fly. But I do not consider myself agnostic to that claim. I accept that I cannot fly until there is evidence to the contrary.

What we know is Billions of people "believe" strongly that their religion is correct. And while that adds no merit to the validity of each individual religion , it does mean that the vast majority of the world, theists and atheists alike are wrong and many(possibly all)  are praying to gods that do not exist.

Sorry, buddy. But "I don't know" equals agnosticism. Not atheism. This has been discussed at length, so I don't really want to get into it. Atheism is a lack of belief in God, which can go hand in hand with "I don't know", but not always. My claim is that: "I don't know, it's possible". Which should be the default position of anyone with half a brain, because how could you possibly know for sure? You don't. Claiming that "I don't know, therefore there is no God" is stupid, period. If you don't know, then don't claim to know that there is no God. It's much more logical to leave the possibility open.

You don't have to be certain to not believe that something exists. If someone asked you if leprechauns existed, you would most likely say "No", even though you have no evidence of them not existing. God is the same way, as there is no evidence to prove his existence.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Triangular pyramids.

« on: May 21, 2015, 06:36:53 PM »

This is of course scratching the surface of the truth, but fails to realize that the Eath is only ONE of those triangles.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Hiroshima and Nagasaki Bombings

« on: May 21, 2015, 06:32:31 PM »

They were both fire bombed and burned to the ground. Atomic bombs are not real.

If nukes are not real how did you get irradiated enough to grow six legs?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Hiroshima and Nagasaki Bombings

« on: May 21, 2015, 06:31:06 PM »

No one can really argue for the bombings as they happened. Two attacks on primarily civilian targets, and not factories or something else is completely inexcusable.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Hillary for President!

« on: May 21, 2015, 06:28:51 PM »

Democrat or Republican, neither. I want in this country things that would require the Government not to be controlled by the industries. Where's the party for that?

Green Party or Bernie Sanders.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Atheism = arrogance

« on: May 21, 2015, 06:27:05 PM »

Why are we even arguing about the first cause? Even if somehow we concede (which we will most likely not) that a sentient being created the universe, that is as far as we will ever get. It wouldn't be an argument for the Abrahamic God or for any particular god in that matter.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Atheism = arrogance

« on: May 21, 2015, 02:13:19 PM »

We currently do not know what processes started the universe. It is an argument from ignorance to say that since we do not know the God hypothesis is correct.

Quantum fluctuation corresponds with physics as we know it. The God hypothesis does not.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The real conspiracy and how flat earthers are contributing to it

« on: May 21, 2015, 08:42:37 AM »

It's called Universal Acceleration

Evidence for this?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Atheism = arrogance

« on: May 20, 2015, 07:42:10 PM »

Atheism is arrogant for one simple reason. It makes the mistake of assuming that all of this came from nothing. That is an extremely arrogant, and also stupid, approach to take. Agnosticism would perhaps be a halfway defensible position, although even that is a bit of a cowardly position and a copout. Assuming there is no Deity is as arrogant and moreso than assuming there is.

Misrepresentation of atheism. Atheism is just the rejection of god-claims. You can be atheist and not know what caused the beginning of the universe.

I am of the camp that thinks that of the hypotheses presented, the God hypothesis is the most absurd. Another hypothesis, namely quantum fluctuation, causes less problems logically and is more rationally sound.

It is not I that is being arrogant by dismissing the most complex explanation in favor of greatly less convoluted ones. To assert that your unfalsafiable hypothesis with nothing to back itself up is correct with 100% certainty is arrogant.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Atheism = arrogance

« on: May 20, 2015, 11:26:15 AM »

Atheism is not arrogant since it is the default position of a human being. Even a person that was previously religious that rejects a religious claim is not arrogant. Since most theistic claims have no evidence to support them, it is perfectly justified to dismiss them without evidence.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: DISC THEORY A LIE (PROOFS INSIDE)

« on: May 20, 2015, 09:11:39 AM »

The triune truther is close to the truth. But the truth is that the world is not even flat. But it is not in a sphere either. The world is obviously a pyramid just do the math and you will soon agree with me.

The extent to which you lie is deplorable. Stop brainwashing innocent people.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: NASA planted a Hologram linked GPS inside your head at birth!!

« on: May 19, 2015, 06:16:53 AM »

So the existence of a massive lunar body hundreds of thousands of kilometers away is more likely than having it be an illusion propagated by NASA? Ok then.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: DISC THEORY A LIE (PROOFS INSIDE)

« on: May 18, 2015, 08:30:15 PM »

You think that this forum that collects 100~ flat earthers (and trolls) is acting as a false flag operation under the eye of the U.S. government? Wow.

Most likely the conspiracy you are referring to is one of the following:
Our dealings with Saudi Arabia and other oppressive regimes.
The bipartisan government being completely under control by corporate interests.
NSA spying on citizens.
Illegal proxy wars in various countries.

If it is anything else please respond.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: DISC THEORY A LIE (PROOFS INSIDE)

« on: May 18, 2015, 08:09:08 PM »

The concept of trolling has been instilled into you through years of indoctrination so that the truth remains concealed even if it is right in front of your eyes.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: DISC THEORY A LIE (PROOFS INSIDE)

« on: May 18, 2015, 07:47:05 PM »

Another brainwashed by NASA.. So sad.

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Flat Earth Debate / DISC THEORY A LIE (PROOFS INSIDE)

« on: May 18, 2015, 06:30:07 PM »

I have finally discovered the truth. The earth is not in fact a flat disc, but it is a flat triangle. Now before everyone gets all skeptical, let me explain with irrefutable proofs that I am correct.

NASA is an evil agency that uses MS paint and photoshop to conceal the triune truth. They have, however, added in a clue to the truth at hand. With simple math we can reveal this.

N=14
A=1
S=19
A=1

Now watch this -

S comes after N so you subtract N first:
19-14=5
The next two are As and must also be subtracted:
5-2 = 3

Did you see that? Three. This is obviously a clever clue put in by NASA to the truth of the Earth.

Another proof:
There are three basic elements, water, wind, and earth. If there were four (or more) sides to the Earth, there would obviously be more basic elements, right?

And now for the final and most convincing reason why the earth is triangular.

NASA scientists want you to go to Hell

Yes. Why do you think that NASA has let this forum stay online? Because they know that everyone on it has bought into the circular disc theory, and has abandoned God.

Think about it. God comes in three forms, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This is supported by the triune theory. The disc theory supports paganism. A circle has much more sides - 360. This is quite obviously pagan.

NASA has converted too many people to their pagan cult and I must put a stop to it. Wake up and see the truth, the earth is triangular, and don't let anyone tell you different!