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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Give me one decent reason for believing the Earth is whirling globe

« on: May 12, 2007, 09:11:40 PM »

i'm still waiting for someone to give me an answer or an explanation for the posts i put in on pages 3 and 4 of this thread.
I read all this discussion about advanced math and space-time bending and such but my simple triangular geometry seems to me to have disproven all of the numbers given by the FE model, as far as the distance, positions, and motions of the sun, moon, and stars.
someone said something about these things being brought up before but i have still found no explanation for these things anywhere in these forums.
Tom keeps asking for evidence of a round earth, which i cannot give without walking with him across antarctica or flying with him into space, but I HAVE given evidence we all can see AGAINST a flat earth.
I would greatly appreciate an answer, or at least a link to a previously written one.
Thank you.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Give me one decent reason for believing the Earth is whirling globe

« on: May 05, 2007, 10:52:13 PM »

by the way... angle differences caused by refraction in the atmosphere would only cause these objects to appear even higher in the sky and not closer to the horizon.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Give me one decent reason for believing the Earth is whirling globe

« on: May 05, 2007, 09:44:15 PM »

yes yes ms. more but i'm not talking to you... i'm giving decent reasons to mr. tom like he asked me. and here's another one.

again, please correct me if my FE data is incorrect.

according to FE, the stars, all of them, sit 3100 miles above the earth disc. right now, the constellation Draco is sitting directly above the city of Oslo, Norway, which is located at approx. 60 degrees north latitude (in FE talk about 2075 miles from the north pole). If the FE model were (and if it were nighttime on that side of the world) this very same constellation would also be visible in the city of Cape Town, South Africa (approx. 6500 miles away) at an altitude of approx. 25.5 degrees in the northern sky. However, this constellation is NOT visible from there at all (and not just because it's daylight there right now)

more to come later...

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Give me one decent reason for believing the Earth is whirling globe

« on: May 05, 2007, 09:09:18 PM »

sorry i left out that the 25.73 degree angle is that which would be observed from the north pole according to FE

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Give me one decent reason for believing the Earth is whirling globe

« on: May 05, 2007, 09:06:51 PM »

okay okay, i know i said i was done but i thought of something. something i think should be obvious to FEers and not explainable by any sort of "optical illusion".

this will be a little hard to explain without use of illustrations but i will try my best.

also if any FE data i cite here is incorrect, please correct me...

according to the FE model, the earth is a flat circular disc centered at the north pole, and the sun, at the time of the spring and fall equinoxes, follows a path around the equator line at a height of 3000 miles. The equator, according to the FE data, resides at a distance of exactly 6225 miles from the north pole. when one puts these two figures into a simple geometric equation the angle above the horizon at which the sun should appear on an equinox should be approx. 25.73 degrees all day long moving in a circle around the sky at exactly that angle. However, it has been observed and recorded that on the equinoxes, the "solar altitude" (the angle at which the sun is visible in the sky at noon) is 0 degrees, not only at noon but all day.

if this isn't enough of a disproof, i'll tell you more of my observations later.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Give me one decent reason for believing the Earth is whirling globe

« on: May 05, 2007, 07:16:39 PM »

i just saw in another post about how my questions about my observations of my own experiences of flight around the world could be addressed by reading the handy FAQ provided....

   the answers do seem a bit ridiculous to me, especially how a massive conspiracy with no motive (money being given as one, but what's the motive of whoever's paying) would try so hard to keep us believing the RE model when it makes a whole lot more sense than the FE model, which is based on the Bible, which anybody who's read it in detail a few times knows contradicts itself over and over and over and actually only represents the limited "scientific" observations of the people who lived at the time of its writing.

Also, if you argue that the Bible is not based on the limited knowledge of the people at the time but was rather written by God through its authors by divine inspiration, the fact that there are so many mistakes and contradictions within should convince anyone with any sense that this God is obviously an idiot and we shouldn't listen to his mad ravings and worry about his fickle whims and rages....

okay i'm tired of this now.
goodbye forever time-wasters

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Give me one decent reason for believing the Earth is whirling globe

« on: May 05, 2007, 06:21:14 PM »

I just came here for the first time today after hearing about this group in a book by a Prof. F.A. Matsen called Science Tales.

    I'm not sure if anyone has suggested this as evidence for a round earth but my evidence is the fact that you can fly in a plane in a single direction, never wavering, and return to your exact location on the earth. I have personally done nearly this by flying from the U.S. west to Tokyo, then west to London, then west back to the U.S. Now, unless you think that our world exists many times copied over end to end with alternate versions of ourselves in each copy, this trip of mine could not have been possible.

    Now, if you've got an explanation for this that still supports flat earth ideas, i would love to hear it.