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Title: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 28, 2021, 08:22:18 AM
There is a reason this has taken Netflix by storm and smashed its way to the number 1 spot. It's freaking awesome

It's Korean. It's violent. It's emotional. It can be a tear jerker. It's only 9 episodes long so it's not bogged down with filler and fluff, yet somehow still packs an amazing story worthy of its 100% rotten tomatoes rating

Watch it with subs. Watching foreign shows with dubs turns what is an awesome show with high production values and super talented actors into a cringey shitty B grade crapfest.

The protagonist Lee Jung-jae in this is a seasoned A+ Korean actor and the antagonist 'Frontman' guy in the mask.... Well he is more popular world wide but I wont spoil you by dropping his name (if you really want to you can imdb it but honestly, just wait for it) :) There's also a cameo by Gong Yoo (the protagonist in Train to Busan) in the first episode

Give it a go. If you like survival/games this is well worth your time



Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Stash on September 28, 2021, 08:33:28 AM
There is a reason this has taken Netflix by storm and smashed its way to the number 1 spot. It's freaking awesome

It's Korean. It's violent. It's emotional. It can be a tear jerker. It's only 9 episodes long so it's not bogged down with filler and fluff, yet somehow still packs an amazing story worthy of its 100% rotten tomatoes rating

Watch it with subs. Watching foreign shows with dubs turns what is an awesome show with high production values and super talented actors into a cringey shitty B grade crapfest.

The protagonist Lee Jung-jae in this is a seasoned A+ Korean actor and the antagonist 'Frontman' guy in the mask.... Well he is more popular world wide but I wont spoil you by dropping his name (if you really want to you can imdb it but honestly, just wait for it) :) There's also a cameo by Gong Yoo (the protagonist in Train to Busan) in the first episode

Give it a go. If you like survival/games this is well worth your time

I just binged on the first 4 episodes yesterday. It's really good. The violence aside, it's like some crazed banned 1960's psych experiment exploring the human condition with really interesting motivations. I thought it was going to be another "Netflix #1" piece of garbage. But it's really quite good and has some depth. And it's really well shot, great set design.

And yeah, totally agree, dubbing OFF. Always!

I definitely recommend.

P.S. Rumor has it season 2 has been already been greenlit.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on September 28, 2021, 08:42:32 AM
There is a reason this has taken Netflix by storm and smashed its way to the number 1 spot. It's freaking awesome

It's Korean. It's violent. It's emotional. It can be a tear jerker. It's only 9 episodes long so it's not bogged down with filler and fluff, yet somehow still packs an amazing story worthy of its 100% rotten tomatoes rating

Watch it with subs. Watching foreign shows with dubs turns what is an awesome show with high production values and super talented actors into a cringey shitty B grade crapfest.

The protagonist Lee Jung-jae in this is a seasoned A+ Korean actor and the antagonist 'Frontman' guy in the mask.... Well he is more popular world wide but I wont spoil you by dropping his name (if you really want to you can imdb it but honestly, just wait for it) :) There's also a cameo by Gong Yoo (the protagonist in Train to Busan) in the first episode

Give it a go. If you like survival/games this is well worth your time
What a stupid arse name.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Stash on September 28, 2021, 08:46:39 AM
There is a reason this has taken Netflix by storm and smashed its way to the number 1 spot. It's freaking awesome

It's Korean. It's violent. It's emotional. It can be a tear jerker. It's only 9 episodes long so it's not bogged down with filler and fluff, yet somehow still packs an amazing story worthy of its 100% rotten tomatoes rating

Watch it with subs. Watching foreign shows with dubs turns what is an awesome show with high production values and super talented actors into a cringey shitty B grade crapfest.

The protagonist Lee Jung-jae in this is a seasoned A+ Korean actor and the antagonist 'Frontman' guy in the mask.... Well he is more popular world wide but I wont spoil you by dropping his name (if you really want to you can imdb it but honestly, just wait for it) :) There's also a cameo by Gong Yoo (the protagonist in Train to Busan) in the first episode

Give it a go. If you like survival/games this is well worth your time
What a stupid arse name.

You'd actually have to watch the show to understand the context of the name. If you did, you would "get it."
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on September 28, 2021, 09:22:10 AM
Why not A Game of Squids?
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on September 28, 2021, 09:25:54 AM
Why not A Game of Squids?
(https://i.ibb.co/JsXfhD8/v3238-04.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tJy7dVn)
FIGHT!
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Stash on September 29, 2021, 02:37:44 PM
I finished the series last night. Even better than I thought it was initially. Especially Episode 6, "Gganbu", was soul crushing and mind blowing.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 29, 2021, 02:43:27 PM
I finished the series last night. Even better than I thought it was initially. Especially Episode 6, "Gganbu", was soul crushing and mind blowing.

That episode really hits you in the feels.  :'(

I like this meme
(https://data.junkee.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/squid.png)

Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on September 29, 2021, 02:45:54 PM
I finished the series last night. Even better than I thought it was initially. Especially Episode 6, "Gganbu", was soul crushing and mind blowing.

That episode really hits you in the feels.  :'(

I like this meme
(https://data.junkee.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/squid.png)
I have no emotion when watching it.
So not really emotional.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 29, 2021, 03:04:52 PM
I finished the series last night. Even better than I thought it was initially. Especially Episode 6, "Gganbu", was soul crushing and mind blowing.

That episode really hits you in the feels.  :'(

I like this meme
(https://data.junkee.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/squid.png)
I have no emotion when watching it.
So not really emotional.

Sociopaths rarely feel emotions

Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on September 29, 2021, 03:17:42 PM
I finished the series last night. Even better than I thought it was initially. Especially Episode 6, "Gganbu", was soul crushing and mind blowing.

That episode really hits you in the feels.  :'(

I like this meme
(https://data.junkee.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/squid.png)
I have no emotion when watching it.
So not really emotional.

Sociopaths rarely feel emotions
I think its fun to watch people die.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on September 30, 2021, 02:51:08 AM
https://abc.net.au/news/2021-09-30/what-is-squid-game-netflix-k-drama-explainer/100502544

Quote
Released only a fortnight ago, the South Korean series Squid Game has already taken the world by storm.

It has hit number one on Netflix in an incredible 90 countries, including Australia.

Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos told a conference in Los Angeles this week that the show would "definitely" be the streaming platform's biggest non-English language show in the world.

"It's only been out for nine days, and it's a very good chance it's going to be our biggest show ever," he added

Number 1 in 90 countries in only a fortnight and that was quietly dropped. Certainly no fan fare prior to its release
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 11, 2021, 01:38:23 AM
Just watched red light green light.

Okay this series is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 11, 2021, 02:42:05 AM
Just watched red light green light.

Okay this series is pretty cool.

Thanks for moving the thread. I actually meant for it in this section :)

Glad you liked the first episode  8)
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on October 11, 2021, 08:03:19 AM
I started watching it a couple of days ago, it is certainly good.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on October 11, 2021, 08:15:35 AM

I think that it seems quite good, I would hazard a guess as to its popularity being more down to the fact that during lock down, shitloads of us have exhausted all the good series and because of lockdown also hampering filming, everyone was waiting for something half decent to turn up.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: boydster on October 11, 2021, 08:33:24 PM
I've watched the first episode a little earlier tonight. Immediately, I reached out to a buddy of mine that recently acquired a 3D printer and encouraged him to seriously consider printing some SG-inspired masks for Halloween. I think it's the right move in this moment.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Stash on October 11, 2021, 10:29:19 PM
I've watched the first episode a little earlier tonight. Immediately, I reached out to a buddy of mine that recently acquired a 3D printer and encouraged him to seriously consider printing some SG-inspired masks for Halloween. I think it's the right move in this moment.

The guard masks look like fencing masks. Just get one of those and paint a circle, square, or triangle on it.

I read something where Walmart is in partnership with Netflix and you can buy gear from shows. The article mentioned the contestnat sweat suits. Hold on a sec, I'll dig it up.

Found it:

My god, they have tons of stuff:

https://www.walmart.com/search?query=squid%20game&sort=best_match&cat_id=0&stores=3455&spelling=false&ps=40

(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/2a1c0192-03c1-453a-aad6-c27cb222d96a.f35f497de2f95f0a8ec909995ee7cca4.jpeg?odnHeight=612&odnWidth=612&odnBg=FFFFFF)

(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/4923cfa0-0953-474c-ada1-f74fb5630c33.f65d230fdd62d438511027565c5b9c0e.jpeg?odnHeight=612&odnWidth=612&odnBg=FFFFFF)

(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/27db20fd-f4e1-4004-8e22-c06f5305c8a0.485bbc18df3a0f4f0670fbcd0b1833b8.jpeg?odnHeight=612&odnWidth=612&odnBg=FFFFFF)
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on October 12, 2021, 06:42:38 AM
Well, finished binging it last night.

Really enjoyed it.

Pretty standard "dystopian" plot elevated by great acting, production and characters you give a shit about.


Also...Korea: you're rich now, get universal healthcare in place!
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 12, 2021, 10:18:32 AM
Only watch this if you have seen the whole series. Major spoilers  8)

Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 12, 2021, 12:09:11 PM
I ordered myself the 456 tracksuit and T-shirt 8) Not for Halloween though. That shit is dead in Oz. More so now that everyone is a coronaphobe

Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on October 12, 2021, 12:49:30 PM
I ordered myself the 456 tracksuit and T-shirt 8) Not for Halloween though. That shit is dead in Oz. More so now that everyone is a coronaphobe
Some people here are afraid that Muslims are all terroists.
( My Muslim friend gets harassed and gets called a terroist, fucking racist yanks)
But only sometimes.
They are very rare.

This guy gives em the reverse card.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 18, 2021, 03:43:11 AM
Just watched the rug of war episode. Great stuff. I see a lot of game theory going on here.

I just can't help but notice that the show is very racist. It has great Asian representation but black people and white are extremely underrepresented.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 18, 2021, 03:56:46 AM
Just watched the rug of war episode. Great stuff. I see a lot of game theory going on here.

I just can't help but notice that the show is very racist. It has great Asian representation but black people and white are extremely underrepresented.

Not true if you keep watching.... (and if you consider Korea is largely homogeneous). Also I'm pretty sure the utterly shitty and cringey B grade English voice dubbing were done by white people
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 19, 2021, 03:18:26 AM
I don't know about that.  I see there's a population of 156700 American in South Korea.  The guys on the island could have through sheer luck grabbed the only white people in South Korea.  Also I get very uncomfortable when cinema isn't praising America as being the best at everything.  I don't think this show has even mentioned the US yet.

Just saw episode 6.  That was brutal.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 19, 2021, 04:21:02 AM
I don't know about that.  I see there's a population of 156700 American in South Korea.  The guys on the island could have through sheer luck grabbed the only white people in South Korea.  Also I get very uncomfortable when cinema isn't praising America as being the best at everything.  I don't think this show has even mentioned the US yet.

Just saw episode 6.  That was brutal.

The contestants are people who have become so debt ridden to dodgy illegal loan sharks and gangsters they literally have nothing to lose. Not sure how many American residents would fit that bill. And most of them would be soldiers or English teachers lol

Besides they have Ali the Pakistani bloke for their ethnic representation  :P. And you'll still get your super cringe white people.... Very soon  >:D
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Stash on October 19, 2021, 09:58:51 AM
I think Episode 6 is "Marbles". If so, yeah, absolutely soul crushing.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 19, 2021, 11:49:03 AM
Yes the marbles episode. Although when you consider the circumstances it's less soul crushing since it isn't really a choice at that point.

Also, unless I've misunderstood the rules then there's only one winner and everyone else dies. So you're eventually going to have to murder your allies.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 21, 2021, 03:28:21 AM
Saw it all now. Pretty good. I don't think it's the best thing on netflix. Apparently I'm alone in that. But I thought it was good.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 21, 2021, 03:39:01 AM
Saw it all now. Pretty good. I don't think it's the best thing on netflix. Apparently I'm alone in that. But I thought it was good.

I'm surprised it was actually so popular given how many people watched it with the English dub. That was so laughable and cringe worthy on the scenes I looked at for a laugh.

Did you watch it subbed or dubbed crouton?
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 21, 2021, 03:47:20 AM
Dubbed definitely.

I didn't have a problem with the dubbs.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on October 21, 2021, 04:18:23 AM
Me too.

I usually sit down to watch NFlix for an hour two after walking the dogs on sunday, with some food, you can't eat food and read.

But then again, although we enjoyed it neither are raving about it, I suspect subliminal’s in the Korean version.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 21, 2021, 05:06:54 AM
Well there's your problem. :P Go back and watch it again. This time, doing the actors the justice they deserve for their hard work. :P

Or just do a few scenes for your own interest. Honestly, the dub just makes everything cheesy & comically hilarious - not at all what the writers and actors intended to portray

Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on October 21, 2021, 06:20:26 AM

It wasn't a comedy!
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 21, 2021, 06:36:24 AM

It wasn't a comedy!

Not if you watched it with the original Korean audio. The English dub? Hilarious. Was just missing the Benny Hill music
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on October 21, 2021, 09:36:01 AM
I can't believe anyone watches anything with dubbing.    Dreadful.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on October 21, 2021, 10:06:21 AM
I can't believe anyone watches anything with dubbing.    Dreadful.
People who do cant read fast.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 21, 2021, 10:19:16 AM
Hey if I wanted to read then I'd pick up Squid Game the book.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on October 21, 2021, 11:06:16 AM
Hey if I wanted to read then I'd pick up Squid Game the book.
Your the guy who installs speechify for a 2 page paper.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on October 21, 2021, 12:31:52 PM

What bollocks, I'm happy to do either but what makes the guy that types the words any better than the one that reads it for the voice over, and as acting is mainly in the body language and Korean has no terms of reference to English it serves no purpose to listen to it, so just fuck off with your reading is more pure than listening.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on October 21, 2021, 12:38:03 PM

What bollocks, I'm happy to do either but what makes the guy that types the words any better than the one that reads it for the voice over, and as acting is mainly in the body language and Korean has no terms of reference to English it serves no purpose to listen to it, so just fuck off with your reading is more pure than listening.
Jeez.
Your eyebrows are almost nonexistent.
Did you lose them in a fire?
At least mine are all real, nothing drawn on.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on October 21, 2021, 01:23:17 PM

Alexi has said something and I can't be bothered to click “show me the post” to be disappointed, life's too short for that, I think I have mice but the dogs aren't interested the radiators are on and they are comfortable. My wife has stacked a load of drink she bought for christmas, near to where I am sat, what was she thinking, well from the amount clearly she doesn't want to remember it, I may have to filter some of it through my organs and risk her displeasure otherwise we won't survive.
I trust to you good people that if he has said anything of any import you will quote it so we can celebrate together.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 21, 2021, 01:32:07 PM

What bollocks, I'm happy to do either but what makes the guy that types the words any better than the one that reads it for the voice over, and as acting is mainly in the body language and Korean has no terms of reference to English it serves no purpose to listen to it, so just fuck off with your reading is more pure than listening.
Totally agree man. You're a legend, never wrong.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on October 21, 2021, 01:40:04 PM

What bollocks, I'm happy to do either but what makes the guy that types the words any better than the one that reads it for the voice over, and as acting is mainly in the body language and Korean has no terms of reference to English it serves no purpose to listen to it, so just fuck off with your reading is more pure than listening.
Totally agree man. You're a legend, never wrong.
Is this suppose to compliment me or compliment the woman who "discovered" fire for the first time?
Also IT DOES NOT SAY THAT!
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on October 21, 2021, 01:47:35 PM

What bollocks, I'm happy to do either but what makes the guy that types the words any better than the one that reads it for the voice over, and as acting is mainly in the body language and Korean has no terms of reference to English it serves no purpose to listen to it, so just fuck off with your reading is more pure than listening.
Totally agree man. You're a legend, never wrong.

HA!
Nobody talks like that and you spelled you're right.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on October 21, 2021, 01:51:31 PM

What bollocks, I'm happy to do either but what makes the guy that types the words any better than the one that reads it for the voice over, and as acting is mainly in the body language and Korean has no terms of reference to English it serves no purpose to listen to it, so just fuck off with your reading is more pure than listening.
Totally agree man. You're a legend, never wrong.

HA!
Nobody talks like that and you spelled you're right.
That was shifter medusa.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 21, 2021, 02:00:54 PM
What's a shifter medusa?
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on October 21, 2021, 02:06:24 PM
What's a shifter medusa?
That was shifter, Medusa.
I see your a victim.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 21, 2021, 09:59:10 PM


Well, at least this English dub matches the lips better
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on October 22, 2021, 08:30:11 AM


Well, at least this English dub matches the lips better
Agreed.
I would roast Jura but then again, i dont want to burn plastic.
Not to mention half her face look's like a muffin over baking in the oven.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: sceptimatic on October 23, 2021, 02:36:30 AM
I thought it was a great series.

The acting in the main was very good.
I can't help thinking we're being given some future hints at what we can expect as a population based on this.

I think it's already started.

But, that aside I did enjoy it and much better enjoyed it with it being dubbed rather than subtitles.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Pezevenk on October 26, 2021, 08:07:23 AM

What bollocks, I'm happy to do either but what makes the guy that types the words any better than the one that reads it for the voice over, and as acting is mainly in the body language and Korean has no terms of reference to English it serves no purpose to listen to it, so just fuck off with your reading is more pure than listening.

Very silly take, a dub is not only more restrictive for the translation since it has to kind of sort of match the actor's lips, but it also replaces the natural sound and acting of the movie with garbage studio recordings of 3 randos doing 50 voices. I have no idea why adults chose dubs.

I think native English speakers have gotten used to not requiring either subs or dubs for 99% of the stuff they watch so they see subs as too much of an effort or something. Only children watch movies dubbed over here.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on October 26, 2021, 08:10:03 AM

What bollocks, I'm happy to do either but what makes the guy that types the words any better than the one that reads it for the voice over, and as acting is mainly in the body language and Korean has no terms of reference to English it serves no purpose to listen to it, so just fuck off with your reading is more pure than listening.

Very silly take, a dub is not only more restrictive for the translation since it has to kind of sort of match the actor's lips, but it also replaces the natural sound and acting of the movie with garbage studio recordings of 3 randos doing 50 voices. I have no idea why adults chose dubs.
At least someone agrees with me.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 26, 2021, 01:00:10 PM
I'm still team dubs.  I'm not learning Korean anytime soon and in an action setting I'm not going to take my eyes off the action to read.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on October 26, 2021, 01:11:37 PM

As I have said, I don't have a problem with subtitles, it's just I was watching this while eating and as that also requires my eyes the dubs were the best option, I trust that whoever is dubbing these things has the same pride in their job as the translators.
As Crouts alludes to, if I'm watching something in English my eyes watch the action and my ears do the dialogue, that to me is the natural way, this strange obsession that reading is for purists strikes me as posturing, so you can just fuck off.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: boydster on October 26, 2021, 01:19:05 PM
The rumor from people that speak the language is that, dub or sub, they did a pretty shit job actually translating the deeper context that you get if you speak the language natively. I'll have to look for the article I read that called out some very specific things impactful to character development. So I think we all probably missed a ton of nuance that makes this show even better for people that know Korean culture.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Stash on October 26, 2021, 02:00:26 PM
The rumor from people that speak the language is that, dub or sub, they did a pretty shit job actually translating the deeper context that you get if you speak the language natively. I'll have to look for the article I read that called out some very specific things impactful to character development. So I think we all probably missed a ton of nuance that makes this show even better for people that know Korean culture.

The other rumor I read a while back was that TikTokker who originally called out the sub as being suspect had her's set to the "dub-sub". Meaning it was subs of the English dub. Whereas there's another setting where you get just a sub that is not the same as the dub and apparently more accurate. If any of that makes sense.

Here, found this, probably explains more eloquently than I did:

Watching Squid Game on Netflix? Change this subtitle setting immediately
Use "English" rather than "English CC" subtitles for a more nuanced translation.
https://www.cnet.com/news/still-watching-squid-game-on-netflix-change-this-subtitle-setting-right-away/
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 26, 2021, 02:33:46 PM
If you're familiar with English as I assume most here are, if you watch enough movies with subtitles, you'll soon have the ability to simply glance at a subtitle and read it in half a second. I didn't miss anything watching this with subs (apart from any lazy translation errors that even I picked up on a few)

Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: boydster on October 26, 2021, 03:28:38 PM
If you're familiar with English as I assume most here are, if you watch enough movies with subtitles, you'll soon have the ability to simply glance at a subtitle and read it in half a second. I didn't miss anything watching this with subs (apart from any lazy translation errors that even I picked up on a few)
Not for everyone. My brain doesn't work that way. Even if I'm watching something in English, if there are subtitles turned on, my eye is drawn to them and I'll spend the entire time reading the words and not watching what is happening on the screen.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on October 26, 2021, 03:42:51 PM
If you're familiar with English as I assume most here are, if you watch enough movies with subtitles, you'll soon have the ability to simply glance at a subtitle and read it in half a second. I didn't miss anything watching this with subs (apart from any lazy translation errors that even I picked up on a few)
Not for everyone. My brain doesn't work that way. Even if I'm watching something in English, if there are subtitles turned on, my eye is drawn to them and I'll spend the entire time reading the words and not watching what is happening on the screen.
You're worse than someone with ADHD.
Am i suppose to understand that you're so incompetent that even a 7 year old can do better than you?
Asking for a friend.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: markjo on October 26, 2021, 05:24:25 PM

It wasn't a comedy!

Not if you watched it with the original Korean audio. The English dub? Hilarious. Was just missing the Benny Hill music
You have a pretty sick sense of humor.

The way I figure it, unless you're fluent in the native language, you're at the mercy of the translators either way.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Pezevenk on October 27, 2021, 01:30:16 AM
For those who don't see the point about dubs destroying the original sound design and acting that people took so much time to perfect, pick your favorite memorable one liner or acting moment or whatever from an English language movie, watch it with French or Spanish subs or something like that, and see how stupid it now looks. I'm sure preferring dubs is simply a matter of habit and not having watched enough movies with subs, because as I said here people are used to subs since we don't have a big film industry and I know no adult who prefers dubs. It's not even an option in cinemas because no one wants it, it used to be an option in some DVDs but no one ever used it outside of kid movies and I believe it stopped eventually, I don't remember because I haven't touched a DVD in years. The only thing that people watch with dubs over here is some weird telenovelas from South America, which I guess were dubbed because people like to watch them without even looking at the screen like radio shows, and they are very stupid and poorly made anyways so dubs don't detract much.

This is what I think about every time someone talks about dubs (voice acting highlight in 0:45):
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: boydster on October 27, 2021, 07:29:46 PM
That's a pretty elitest take, but ok.

Just watched Episode 6. Fuck me. That was tough to get through. Think I'll go ahead and finish it now.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 27, 2021, 07:42:58 PM
I don't even like watching Japanese anime dubbed in English. It ruins the character and aesthetic and the English dubbers never take the emotions or rage quite like the Japanese do

All those beautiful Studio Ghibli films for example or Makoto Shinkai's 'Your Name' or 'Weathering with You' despite being animes still sound so bad in the English dub version

I guess English dub is just a really bad cultural appropriation. It's never better or as good as the way the director intended

Each to their own I suppose. If the English dub opens the anime or films to a whole new audience that would otherwise refuse to read (or couldn't), then that is a good thing I suppose
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2021, 01:43:53 AM
That's a pretty elitest take, but ok.
It's not elitist, that's what most of the world does except for like part of the anglosphere, France because they are allergic to foreign languages for some reason (same goes for Germany I believe) and also Poland/Ukraine/Russia which do something worse than dubs, plus some big countries with very poor literacy rates.

If you are distracted by subtitles then it's just that you aren't used to them and you should try to get more used to them because it is incomparably better to dubs where you are literally completely replacing a massive part of the movie or show (all the voice acting and sound design) with a shoddy substitute that looks silly and weird. Just picture a Morgan Freeman monologue except it is no longer Morgan Freeman, it is some squeaky Frenchie who also plays 3 other characters in the same film, and it doesn't match his lips.

We visited France with my school once and I remember everyone watching TV just to laugh at how stupid all the dubs of famous movies looked.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 28, 2021, 03:05:36 AM
My God. A form of snobbery that even surpasses, "it was alright but you haven't experienced it until you've read the book."

My hats off to you. I'm now going to figure out ways to integrate this into daily life.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 28, 2021, 03:08:52 AM
I think ill begin by mocking people who watch English or American TV shows without thr subtitled turned on.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on October 28, 2021, 04:02:13 AM


Ever considered Pez that as English is the dominant western language that most of the countries these films come from, have a massive amount of people willing and able to do top notch talk overs, whereas I can’t see too many Koreans learning Greek, perhaps you are getting it done through an online app so is the equivalent of an early Wise post?
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 28, 2021, 04:11:53 AM
I demand that Wise creates English to Turkish to English translation for every movie immediately!
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on October 28, 2021, 06:11:11 AM

I am now looking for this dubbed to Korean so I won’t be upset by lip sync issues, then I shall watch it with subtitles but Korean ones as to do otherwise would be to lose the subtleties of the original language. I shall try to understand it by careful observation, cultural osmosis and by reading comments by those who clearly are more in tune with things Korean than I could ever be. 
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: boydster on October 28, 2021, 07:58:48 AM
In fairness here, the person that did the voiceover work for Han Mi-nyeo (number 212) was pretty annoying

(https://www.slashfilm.com/img/gallery/12-best-characters-in-squid-game/han-mi-nyeo-212-1634588349.webp)
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 28, 2021, 09:15:54 AM
In fairness here, the person that did the voiceover work for Han Mi-nyeo (number 212) was pretty annoying

(https://www.slashfilm.com/img/gallery/12-best-characters-in-squid-game/han-mi-nyeo-212-1634588349.webp)


Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2021, 10:08:29 AM


Ever considered Pez that as English is the dominant western language that most of the countries these films come from, have a massive amount of people willing and able to do top notch talk overs, whereas I can’t see too many Koreans learning Greek, perhaps you are getting it done through an online app so is the equivalent of an early Wise post?

OK first of all why is this about Korean? I've never even watched a Korean show dubbed, I don't have a reason to. The only movies I've seen dubbed in Greek are American movies for kids because that's the only movies they dub, and the translation is not the issue, the issue is that it looks stupid. I've also seen a few movies dubbed in other languages while bored at hotels in some European countries, and also more recently I tried to watch a Japanese movie dubbed in English because that was the only torrent I found, but I got pissed and turned it off. My issue is not the dub of any specific show, the issue is that dubbing as a concept is bad. Even the relatively good ones miss the mark.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2021, 10:09:45 AM
My God. A form of snobbery that even surpasses, "it was alright but you haven't experienced it until you've read the book."

My hats off to you. I'm now going to figure out ways to integrate this into daily life.

It's incredibly funny to me that Americans consider this snobbery or something lol
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: boydster on October 28, 2021, 10:41:27 AM
You aren't even stopping to consider that some people don't have the same sensory input experience that you enjoy. So yeah, it's deserved. But you won't see that, so it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 28, 2021, 11:18:11 AM
Try watching a show where the audio is out by just a few ms. The slightly off lip sync gets quite annoying. Now imagine some B grade voice actor dubbing over a well known veteran Hollywood actor. Let's say the voice of a young white guy voicing over Denzel Washington and giving his own interpretation of how the script should sound. Cringe.

Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2021, 11:29:10 AM
You aren't even stopping to consider that some people don't have the same sensory input experience that you enjoy. So yeah, it's deserved. But you won't see that, so it doesn't matter.
You aren't even stopping to consider that maybe it's just because you've hardly ever tried it. Maybe it's not that big a deal when pretty much every adult in countries where it is more common (since practically all major films are in a foreign language) prefers subs.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on October 28, 2021, 11:33:19 AM
I can't bear to watch dubbed stuff, the out of syncness makes me twitchy. I have big issues with attention difficulties but its still preferable to read subtitles. they are annoying though in that my eyes are automatically drawn to them and I constantly have to force myself to pay attention to everything else, even when watching English stuff and there's Finnish subtitles, I end up listening to the English while reading the Finnish and being irritated. Still better than dubbed stuff though.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: boydster on October 28, 2021, 11:45:31 AM
You aren't even stopping to consider that some people don't have the same sensory input experience that you enjoy. So yeah, it's deserved. But you won't see that, so it doesn't matter.
You aren't even stopping to consider that maybe it's just because you've hardly ever tried it. Maybe it's not that big a deal when pretty much every adult in countries where it is more common (since practically all major films are in a foreign language) prefers subs.
Oh really? I've hardly ever tried it? Interesting. I haven't noticed you sitting next to me on the couch, or in a theater. Please, tell me more about myself. ::)
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2021, 11:57:55 AM
You aren't even stopping to consider that some people don't have the same sensory input experience that you enjoy. So yeah, it's deserved. But you won't see that, so it doesn't matter.
You aren't even stopping to consider that maybe it's just because you've hardly ever tried it. Maybe it's not that big a deal when pretty much every adult in countries where it is more common (since practically all major films are in a foreign language) prefers subs.
Oh really? I've hardly ever tried it? Interesting. I haven't noticed you sitting next to me on the couch, or in a theater. Please, tell me more about myself. ::)
LOL OK I'm sure you watch foreign language films with subs all the time. I'm sure you've done it at least 3 times.

Like for real, how frequently do you watch live action films that are not in English anyways?
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: boydster on October 28, 2021, 12:10:10 PM
You aren't even stopping to consider that some people don't have the same sensory input experience that you enjoy. So yeah, it's deserved. But you won't see that, so it doesn't matter.
You aren't even stopping to consider that maybe it's just because you've hardly ever tried it. Maybe it's not that big a deal when pretty much every adult in countries where it is more common (since practically all major films are in a foreign language) prefers subs.
Oh really? I've hardly ever tried it? Interesting. I haven't noticed you sitting next to me on the couch, or in a theater. Please, tell me more about myself. ::)
LOL OK I'm sure you watch foreign language films with subs all the time. I'm sure you've done it at least 3 times.

Like for real, how frequently do you watch live action films that are not in English anyways?
I'm totally not into Kaiju movies or anything, you're right, in fact I've actually never even seen a movie with subtitles. Thanks for helping me learn that about myself. Even though it doesn't match my lived reality, you have helped shed light on the fact that my lived reality doesn't matter because it doesn't align with the preconceived notions you have about how my brain works, and your reality is the true and correct one.

Maybe if I practice real hard, and give it my best try, I'll also be able to more effectively follow verbal communication in situations with lots of other noise. I haven't been working on that for almost 40 years or anything. Sheesh. Does my laziness know no bounds?!

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 28, 2021, 12:15:39 PM
I can't bear to watch dubbed stuff, the out of syncness makes me twitchy. I have big issues with attention difficulties but its still preferable to read subtitles. they are annoying though in that my eyes are automatically drawn to them and I constantly have to force myself to pay attention to everything else, even when watching English stuff and there's Finnish subtitles, I end up listening to the English while reading the Finnish and being irritated. Still better than dubbed stuff though.

I watched a lot of kung fu movies as a kid.  So I just assumed that when asians spoke that their lips were always out of sync.  It was very shocking when I met asians in real life that seemed completely in sync.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Crouton on October 28, 2021, 12:22:55 PM
My God. A form of snobbery that even surpasses, "it was alright but you haven't experienced it until you've read the book."

My hats off to you. I'm now going to figure out ways to integrate this into daily life.

It's incredibly funny to me that Americans consider this snobbery or something lol

Joking.  Sort of.

I do watch some foreign films in subtitles.  Movies like Parasite where the dialogue is very important.  A show like Squid Game or Kung Fu Hustle though, the interesting stuff is visual so that's what I focus on.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on October 28, 2021, 01:04:45 PM

Perhaps we are talking about Korean because of Squid game?

I still don't see why dubbing a film is bad unless the translation is poor and there is no reason these days with English being such a widely spoken language that should be the case, sure there will be a sync problem with the lips, that's a given and doesn't bother me, but why would someone wanting to  get their film out and presumably make money as well as showcase their wares countenance releasing it with bad dubbing, makes no sense.

I have watched about a dozen films with subtitles, one of my favourite films of all time (Pans Labyrinth) was subtitled, it doesn't scare me, but Squid game was dubbed, the interaction between the old guy and the main character when they were playing marbles was a nuanced one, the acting and the words I heard conveyed that well, and I got to eat my baked potato without missing anything.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2021, 01:24:30 PM
You aren't even stopping to consider that some people don't have the same sensory input experience that you enjoy. So yeah, it's deserved. But you won't see that, so it doesn't matter.
You aren't even stopping to consider that maybe it's just because you've hardly ever tried it. Maybe it's not that big a deal when pretty much every adult in countries where it is more common (since practically all major films are in a foreign language) prefers subs.
Oh really? I've hardly ever tried it? Interesting. I haven't noticed you sitting next to me on the couch, or in a theater. Please, tell me more about myself. ::)
LOL OK I'm sure you watch foreign language films with subs all the time. I'm sure you've done it at least 3 times.

Like for real, how frequently do you watch live action films that are not in English anyways?
I'm totally not into Kaiju movies or anything, you're right, in fact I've actually never even seen a movie with subtitles. Thanks for helping me learn that about myself. Even though it doesn't match my lived reality, you have helped shed light on the fact that my lived reality doesn't matter because it doesn't align with the preconceived notions you have about how my brain works, and your reality is the true and correct one.

Maybe if I practice real hard, and give it my best try, I'll also be able to more effectively follow verbal communication in situations with lots of other noise. I haven't been working on that for almost 40 years or anything. Sheesh. Does my laziness know no bounds?!

Have a nice day.

Oh sorry you must have done it at least 5 times then.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2021, 01:32:12 PM
I still don't see why dubbing a film is bad

Because it overrides a big part of the movie (the voice acting and sound design) and replaces it with something that doesn't even sync up and looks unnatural and weird. These are issues that are inherent with all dubs, even good ones. But then again most dubs aren't even good ones. Like, people get awards for sound design and the way they act with their voices. If I saw a film where they dubbed all their lines in the studio and they poorly matched the actors' lips I'd just think they did a garbage job with the technical aspects. Especially if I know the actors it just looks extremely funny to hear some other voice in a language they don't speak come from their mouths. Subs are non intrusive.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 28, 2021, 02:08:26 PM

the interaction between the old guy and the main character when they were playing marbles was a nuanced one, the acting and the words I heard conveyed that well, and I got to eat my baked potato without missing anything.

So now that you know what's being said, go to the original audio and just take it in. I think you'll find a lot more emotion. Koreans have a unique way of speaking that English tones and intonations just can't do justice to. This isn't going from English to Spanish but a whole new culture with completely different grammatical rules

I've watched way over a hundred movies with subtitles. I honestly don't miss what's going on in the rest of the picture.

Anthony Hopkins recently won an 'Oscar' (whatever that's worth) for best actor. If his voice was over dubbed, I doubt he'd get a 2nd look. I guess it's a shame when you see such great talent wiped over with talentless B grade faceless nobodies.

Also one of the reasons why I never bothered with that new Mulan movie (apart from the shitty writing and a Mary Sue protagonist) was that this movie was set in China around 1500 odd years ago. And they spoke English lol. Quite jarring. Would have watched it if it were in Chinese with English subs. And the fact that all the cast members could speak Chinese I feel is a lost opportunity.

Maybe one day we'll see this 'English washing' speaking over foreign (to us) ethnic cultures to be akin to men in theatre dressing as women because women weren't allowed to perform. Or black face white people because we didn't want black actors

Okay maybe that last part was flippant..... Or is it?  :o
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: boydster on October 28, 2021, 02:11:05 PM
You aren't even stopping to consider that some people don't have the same sensory input experience that you enjoy. So yeah, it's deserved. But you won't see that, so it doesn't matter.
You aren't even stopping to consider that maybe it's just because you've hardly ever tried it. Maybe it's not that big a deal when pretty much every adult in countries where it is more common (since practically all major films are in a foreign language) prefers subs.
Oh really? I've hardly ever tried it? Interesting. I haven't noticed you sitting next to me on the couch, or in a theater. Please, tell me more about myself. ::)
LOL OK I'm sure you watch foreign language films with subs all the time. I'm sure you've done it at least 3 times.

Like for real, how frequently do you watch live action films that are not in English anyways?
I'm totally not into Kaiju movies or anything, you're right, in fact I've actually never even seen a movie with subtitles. Thanks for helping me learn that about myself. Even though it doesn't match my lived reality, you have helped shed light on the fact that my lived reality doesn't matter because it doesn't align with the preconceived notions you have about how my brain works, and your reality is the true and correct one.

Maybe if I practice real hard, and give it my best try, I'll also be able to more effectively follow verbal communication in situations with lots of other noise. I haven't been working on that for almost 40 years or anything. Sheesh. Does my laziness know no bounds?!

Have a nice day.

Oh sorry you must have done it at least 5 times then.
This has been truly amazing to witness. I haven't had someone attack me like this because I process information differently than them for quite some time. I hope it has helped you feel better.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 28, 2021, 02:16:26 PM
Yeah C'mon Pez, go easy on the American. You know how they rank below par on education standards and attention span. Can't expect them to read for nearly 1 hour! And if you look at their movie standards of late you know they don't set the bar high. They don't even care for good writing or acting ability anyway judging by the 90% of the movies from the last 20 years.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: boydster on October 28, 2021, 02:32:08 PM
No it's OK, I mean I did go to school so it's not exactly new. Although I guess maybe I shouldn't have participated in a thread about this show. I won't make that mistake again.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 28, 2021, 02:51:33 PM
No it's OK, I mean I did go to school so it's not exactly new. Although I guess maybe I shouldn't have participated in a thread about this show. I won't make that mistake again.

You haven't watched the show. Not really.

If the director wanted his actors to sound like that, he would have marketed it as some comedy in the same vein as Monty Python.

So what you saw was something else. A cheap English copy of a masterful work of art. (excluding those VIPs lol) If someone copied the Mona Lisa painting and gave it a different aesthetic, would it be worth as much? Would a copy ever be as good?

I submit to you 'Old Boy' by Korea vs the American remake of the same name. The Korean one was brilliant. The American one was predictably garbage. Some stories, film, shows, with foreign origins simply can't translate over to English well. Cultures are worlds apart

These remakes are often worse than dubs. Because you steal an entire movie and most people who watch the shitty remake, probably have no idea it was copied from an earlier, foreign work
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2021, 03:04:15 PM
You aren't even stopping to consider that some people don't have the same sensory input experience that you enjoy. So yeah, it's deserved. But you won't see that, so it doesn't matter.
You aren't even stopping to consider that maybe it's just because you've hardly ever tried it. Maybe it's not that big a deal when pretty much every adult in countries where it is more common (since practically all major films are in a foreign language) prefers subs.
Oh really? I've hardly ever tried it? Interesting. I haven't noticed you sitting next to me on the couch, or in a theater. Please, tell me more about myself. ::)
LOL OK I'm sure you watch foreign language films with subs all the time. I'm sure you've done it at least 3 times.

Like for real, how frequently do you watch live action films that are not in English anyways?
I'm totally not into Kaiju movies or anything, you're right, in fact I've actually never even seen a movie with subtitles. Thanks for helping me learn that about myself. Even though it doesn't match my lived reality, you have helped shed light on the fact that my lived reality doesn't matter because it doesn't align with the preconceived notions you have about how my brain works, and your reality is the true and correct one.

Maybe if I practice real hard, and give it my best try, I'll also be able to more effectively follow verbal communication in situations with lots of other noise. I haven't been working on that for almost 40 years or anything. Sheesh. Does my laziness know no bounds?!

Have a nice day.

Oh sorry you must have done it at least 5 times then.
This has been truly amazing to witness. I haven't had someone attack me like this because I process information differently than them for quite some time. I hope it has helped you feel better.
I'm not attacking you, I'm saying I don't believe it is because you have some unique way to process information, I think it's just because you haven't gotten used to it at all. Do all French people have a unique way to process information different from Belgians? No, it probably just has to do with the fact that France had a big native film industry and then a stupid law that mandates dubbing movies for TV, so French people have never gotten used to subs so most of them think they are "distracting". I've never seen an adult here who prefers dubs, aside from one who is extremely short sighted and gets tired having to read things at a distance, not some unique way to process information. It's habit.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: boydster on October 28, 2021, 04:22:48 PM
Let's start a thread where you can psychoanalyze me, Pez. You're doing great work, I'd like to encourage your further success in this field.

Edit: You're not attacking, lol. Ok. Well done, sir.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 28, 2021, 11:18:32 PM
It's not elitist, that's what most of the world does except for like part of the anglosphere, France because they are allergic to foreign languages for some reason (same goes for Germany I believe) and also Poland/Ukraine/Russia which do something worse than dubs, plus some big countries with very poor literacy rates.
The problem is that foreign films suck. 

What they need is the Mystery Science Theater 3000 dub.

Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 28, 2021, 11:28:15 PM
It's not elitist, that's what most of the world does except for like part of the anglosphere, France because they are allergic to foreign languages for some reason (same goes for Germany I believe) and also Poland/Ukraine/Russia which do something worse than dubs, plus some big countries with very poor literacy rates.
The problem is that foreign films suck. 

What they need is the Mystery Science Theater 3000 dub.

How many foreign films have you seen?

Also your opinion (and everyone else's) is only subjective. Saying 'foreign films suck' as if it's a fact is stupid

However even the most objective critic would have to agree that Hollywood's recent woke agenda BS with reboots and remakes but using shallow Mary Sue protagonists that have zero story arc or progression (eg the chick from the new star wars movies or new Mulan) is just shit

America used to be great at making movies. Great at directing, writing and acting. Used to. Those days are behind you now

You get a few gems like John Wick. But even the cool fight while riding high speed on motorbikes was directly ripped from a Korean movie 'The Villainess' which still did it better

And you can't judge a movie by how much money it cost to make. Most of that money goes to just over fluffed actors salaries or maybe just bad management. John Carter cost $200 million? FFS ::)
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 28, 2021, 11:41:29 PM

Saying 'foreign films suck' as if it's a fact is stupid
Lucky thing I presented it as my opinion and not a fact.




Also your opinion (and everyone else's) is only subjective.

Is that a fact ?    ;D
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 28, 2021, 11:48:00 PM

Saying 'foreign films suck' as if it's a fact is stupid
Lucky thing I presented it as my opinion and not a fact.




Also your opinion (and everyone else's) is only subjective.

Is that a fact ?    ;D

Yes. Opinions are subjective
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 29, 2021, 12:31:46 AM
Ooops, givin' the thread back to Squid Game.
Sorry folks . . .
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on October 29, 2021, 02:59:25 AM
Ok. I can forgive the 'crappy' acting of the VIPs. Apparantly it's more true to life than I realised

https://nextshark.com/geoffrey-giuliano-squid-game-vip-actor/

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Geoffrey Giuliano, the actor who plays one of the controversial VIP characters in the latest hit drama “Squid Game,” was previously filmed going on a rant in a supermarket in Thailand. Users online are now calling him the “real life” version of his villainous character. 

The supermarket incident: A 2017 DailyMail story showed the actor, now 68, swearing at another customer while purchasing items at a Big-C supermarket in Pattaya. 

The customer, an unnamed French expat, claimed that Giuliano jumped in front of him in an express “10 items or less” checkout line and proceeded to throw roughly 25 items on the conveyor belt.  As he began to film the incident, Giuliano said to him, “You’re not intimidating me by that camera, I’m an actor.”In the video, the French customer can be heard replying, “I’m just waiting for the next round, because what you said about America was very interesting.”Giuliano becomes visibly irate and swears at the customer: “Go f*** yourself, OK. Go f*** yourself, OK, let’s get it real straight. You can go f*** yourself, OK.”He continues: “​​I’m an American, I do what I want, we’re the kings of the world, OK. We’re professional a*******. We have taken being a******* to the highest possible f****** level in this world.” The customer said that Giuliano was initially “aggressive” with how he threw his items down. He started to film once Giuliano spoke about “being American and being able to do what he wanted.”Both Giuliano’s wife and child were present during the ordeal. His wife was described as “friendly” and that she “looked embarrassed by his behavior.” The story resurfaced on the controversial subreddit r/Aznidentity, with users pointing out the similarities between Giuliano and his character, identified on the show as VIP Four. 

More on Giuliano’s past: In 2016, one year before the grocery store incident, the actor made news when he was involved in an investigation for missing iconic photographs. That same year, he also promoted a website aimed toward men who want to date Thai women. 

A Mail on Sunday investigation of the missing photos of John Lennon and Yoko Ono’s wedding led an undercover reporter to Giuliano, who reportedly claimed to have the photos’ negatives worth over $100,000 up for sale. Giuliano put the reporter in contact with a mysterious middle-man. ​​”Giuliano said he had been instructed to sell the negatives on behalf of a friend but the deal soured when Giuliano suspected the reporter was acting for Ono and refused to sell them before launching into a vile tirade against her,” the report said.In the same year, the actor posted several videos on his YouTube channel promoting a website called “Date Thai Ladies.” Each of the videos show him expanding on several stereotypes of Thai women. In one video, he addresses the question, “Why Should a Beautiful Thai Lady Want Me?” His answer: “All you want is the love and respect you deserve, the same thing that Thai ladies want — which, quite frankly, they don’t often get from Thai men.” In another video titled “If I Date a Thai Girl I will be Ridiculed by My Friends?” he assures any potential clients that “Thai women are the most beautiful, sensual women in the world.” Finally in another video, he compares his experience of being with Thai women to his 30-year marriage with an American woman. “These Thai ladies are really quite sincere. They’re looking for a family, they’re family-oriented.” According to his IMDB page, the actor recently appeared in a small role in the Netflix movie “Kate.” He’s also coming out with a TV series titled “Last Tango In Thailand” which features the actor “homing in on the infamous Vietnam era sex-for-sale, seaside town of Pattaya, where he takes a wild ride through the mean streets of the global swinging capitol of the world.”Early on in his career, the actor played McDonald’s mascot Ronald McDonald before he became a vegetarian and turned his back on the fast food company. He’s been featured in the 1997 documentary “McLibel” about the lawsuit by McDonald’s against environmentalists.


(the link is eaiser to read)

Being a 'Daily Mail' news source, take it with a grain of salt but damn. Those VIPs were actually better than we realised. The cringe is on point.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on October 29, 2021, 03:06:12 AM

So not such a perfectly crafted piece of art then.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 29, 2021, 03:23:05 AM
Ok. I can forgive the 'crappy' acting of the VIPs. Apparantly it's more true to life than I realised

https://nextshark.com/geoffrey-giuliano-squid-game-vip-actor/ (https://nextshark.com/geoffrey-giuliano-squid-game-vip-actor/)

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Geoffrey Giuliano, the actor who plays one of the controversial VIP characters in the latest hit drama “Squid Game,” was previously filmed going on a rant in a supermarket in Thailand. Users online are now calling him the “real life” version of his villainous character.

The supermarket incident: A 2017 DailyMail story showed the actor, now 68, swearing at another customer while purchasing items at a Big-C supermarket in Pattaya.

The customer, an unnamed French expat, claimed that Giuliano jumped in front of him in an express “10 items or less” checkout line and proceeded to throw roughly 25 items on the conveyor belt.  As he began to film the incident, Giuliano said to him, “You’re not intimidating me by that camera, I’m an actor.”In the video, the French customer can be heard replying, “I’m just waiting for the next round, because what you said about America was very interesting.”Giuliano becomes visibly irate and swears at the customer: “Go f*** yourself, OK. Go f*** yourself, OK, let’s get it real straight. You can go f*** yourself, OK.”He continues: “​​I’m an American, I do what I want, we’re the kings of the world, OK. We’re professional a*******. We have taken being a******* to the highest possible f****** level in this world.” The customer said that Giuliano was initially “aggressive” with how he threw his items down. He started to film once Giuliano spoke about “being American and being able to do what he wanted.”Both Giuliano’s wife and child were present during the ordeal. His wife was described as “friendly” and that she “looked embarrassed by his behavior.” The story resurfaced on the controversial subreddit r/Aznidentity, with users pointing out the similarities between Giuliano and his character, identified on the show as VIP Four.

More on Giuliano’s past: In 2016, one year before the grocery store incident, the actor made news when he was involved in an investigation for missing iconic photographs. That same year, he also promoted a website aimed toward men who want to date Thai women.

A Mail on Sunday investigation of the missing photos of John Lennon and Yoko Ono’s wedding led an undercover reporter to Giuliano, who reportedly claimed to have the photos’ negatives worth over $100,000 up for sale. Giuliano put the reporter in contact with a mysterious middle-man. ​​”Giuliano said he had been instructed to sell the negatives on behalf of a friend but the deal soured when Giuliano suspected the reporter was acting for Ono and refused to sell them before launching into a vile tirade against her,” the report said.In the same year, the actor posted several videos on his YouTube channel promoting a website called “Date Thai Ladies.” Each of the videos show him expanding on several stereotypes of Thai women. In one video, he addresses the question, “Why Should a Beautiful Thai Lady Want Me?” His answer: “All you want is the love and respect you deserve, the same thing that Thai ladies want — which, quite frankly, they don’t often get from Thai men.” In another video titled “If I Date a Thai Girl I will be Ridiculed by My Friends?” he assures any potential clients that “Thai women are the most beautiful, sensual women in the world.” Finally in another video, he compares his experience of being with Thai women to his 30-year marriage with an American woman. “These Thai ladies are really quite sincere. They’re looking for a family, they’re family-oriented.” According to his IMDB page, the actor recently appeared in a small role in the Netflix movie “Kate.” He’s also coming out with a TV series titled “Last Tango In Thailand” which features the actor “homing in on the infamous Vietnam era sex-for-sale, seaside town of Pattaya, where he takes a wild ride through the mean streets of the global swinging capitol of the world.”Early on in his career, the actor played McDonald’s mascot Ronald McDonald before he became a vegetarian and turned his back on the fast food company. He’s been featured in the 1997 documentary “McLibel” about the lawsuit by McDonald’s against environmentalists.


(the link is eaiser to read)

Being a 'Daily Mail' news source, take it with a grain of salt but damn. Those VIPs were actually better than we realised. The cringe is on point.

Sounds like those bitter old hags on the view.


Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Pezevenk on October 29, 2021, 07:29:57 AM
It's not elitist, that's what most of the world does except for like part of the anglosphere, France because they are allergic to foreign languages for some reason (same goes for Germany I believe) and also Poland/Ukraine/Russia which do something worse than dubs, plus some big countries with very poor literacy rates.
The problem is that foreign films suck. 

What they need is the Mystery Science Theater 3000 dub.
I agree, foreign films suck, Greek films are the only good ones  ;)

Go Digger for Oscars 2021 (or some other award that matters more)!
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Alexei on November 02, 2021, 08:20:54 AM
No it's OK, I mean I did go to school so it's not exactly new. Although I guess maybe I shouldn't have participated in a thread about this show. I won't make that mistake again.

You haven't watched the show. Not really.

If the director wanted his actors to sound like that, he would have marketed it as some comedy in the same vein as Monty Python.

So what you saw was something else. A cheap English copy of a masterful work of art. (excluding those VIPs lol) If someone copied the Mona Lisa painting and gave it a different aesthetic, would it be worth as much? Would a copy ever be as good?

I submit to you 'Old Boy' by Korea vs the American remake of the same name. The Korean one was brilliant. The American one was predictably garbage. Some stories, film, shows, with foreign origins simply can't translate over to English well. Cultures are worlds apart

These remakes are often worse than dubs. Because you steal an entire movie and most people who watch the shitty remake, probably have no idea it was copied from an earlier, foreign work
Look at one missed call.
I saw the original Japanese version and those damn yanks copied it and say's it's their own.
Guess no one cares if it's not Americun.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on November 24, 2021, 06:57:13 PM
https://www.news.com.au/world/a-north-korean-student-will-be-executed-for-sharing-the-hit-netflix-show-with-their-classmates/news-story/a83ad435f75815d341fb6d3d7d2a2624

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A North Korean student who smuggled copies of Squid Game into the country and sold them will reportedly be executed by firing squad.

North Korean authorities caught seven high school students watching the violent drama after sharing the show via USB flash drives.

Radio Free Asia reported a student who bought a drive from the smuggler received a life sentence after his parents reportedly paid authorities $US3000 ($A4170), while the six others who watched the show have been sentenced to five years of hard labour.

The punishment was extended to the students’ school where teachers and school administrators were fired and faced banishment to work in remote mines.

Local sources said the smuggler brought a copy of the Netflix show back from China before selling versions of it. RFA reported his death sentence would be carried out by the firing squad.

“This all started last week when a high school student secretly bought a USB flash drive containing the South Korean drama Squid Game and watched it with one of his best friends in class,” a law enforcement source in North Hamgyong province told RFA’s Korean Service on Monday.

“The friend told several other students, who became interested, and they shared the flash drive with them. They were caught by the censors in 109 Sangmu, who had received a tip-off,” said the source, referring to the government strike force that specialises in catching illegal video watchers.

Six others who watched the show have reportednly been sentenced to five years of hard labour.

Harsh! North Korea should like this show to be seen. It kind of goes along with their whole 'capitalism is evil' propaganda
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Pezevenk on November 26, 2021, 01:56:23 AM
The source is Radio Free Asia sooo it's probably not true, people make up all sorts of stuff about North Korea and it passes because there aren't any good sources coming from inside North Korea so you can say whatever about what's going inside the country and it can't be debunked. Like yeah it's a crime to smuggle in movies but death sentence? Probably not. I remember seeing North Koreans say watching smuggled movies is actually pretty common, I don't think it would be so common if the punishment was death if you smuggled it, 5 years of hard labour if you just watched it, and then your school administrators also get banished to remote mines for some reason. The article kinda contradicts itself too, it says life sentence at first, then it says he will be executed.
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Wolvaccine on November 26, 2021, 02:01:45 AM
The source is Radio Free Asia sooo it's probably not true, people make up all sorts of stuff about North Korea and it passes because there aren't any good sources coming from inside North Korea so you can say whatever about what's going inside the country and it can't be debunked. Like yeah it's a crime to smuggle in movies but death sentence? Probably not. I remember seeing North Koreans say watching smuggled movies is actually pretty common, I don't think it would be so common if the punishment was death if you smuggled it, 5 years of hard labour if you just watched it, and then your school administrators also get banished to remote mines for some reason.

Yeah, I should probably trust you. Your avatar makes you look like you'd know a thing or 2 about the North  8) ;)
Title: Re: Squid Game
Post by: Pezevenk on November 26, 2021, 02:02:28 AM
The source is Radio Free Asia sooo it's probably not true, people make up all sorts of stuff about North Korea and it passes because there aren't any good sources coming from inside North Korea so you can say whatever about what's going inside the country and it can't be debunked. Like yeah it's a crime to smuggle in movies but death sentence? Probably not. I remember seeing North Koreans say watching smuggled movies is actually pretty common, I don't think it would be so common if the punishment was death if you smuggled it, 5 years of hard labour if you just watched it, and then your school administrators also get banished to remote mines for some reason.

Yeah, I should probably trust you. Your avatar makes you look like you'd know a thing or 2 about the North  8) ;)
Exactly.