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Title: Ancient internet?
Post by: Tal Cohen on July 30, 2021, 03:51:58 PM
Title sums it up, I'll clarify though:
It's most likely the internet has existed for centuries if not more.
I'm kinda new to this, are there any theories?
Like maybe the Dark Web is in fact all the information that has existed for centuries/millennia?
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Shifter on July 30, 2021, 04:15:29 PM
Title sums it up, I'll clarify though:
It's most likely the internet has existed for centuries if not more.
I'm kinda new to this, are there any theories?
Like maybe the Dark Web is in fact all the information that has existed for centuries/millennia?

The internet has not existed for centuries. Just a few decades.

/end thread
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Tal Cohen on July 30, 2021, 04:20:30 PM
Title sums it up, I'll clarify though:
It's most likely the internet has existed for centuries if not more.
I'm kinda new to this, are there any theories?
Like maybe the Dark Web is in fact all the information that has existed for centuries/millennia?

The internet has not existed for centuries. Just a few decades.

/end thread

You sound very convinced. I'm not. I think there have been computers in Ancient Greece, even google kind of agrees, so google it.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Shifter on July 30, 2021, 04:28:21 PM
Title sums it up, I'll clarify though:
It's most likely the internet has existed for centuries if not more.
I'm kinda new to this, are there any theories?
Like maybe the Dark Web is in fact all the information that has existed for centuries/millennia?

The internet has not existed for centuries. Just a few decades.

/end thread

You sound very convinced. I'm not. I think there have been computers in Ancient Greece, even google kind of agrees, so google it.

I'm very convinced. Also Google is not a reliable source of information. The internet isn't either. You can find anything you want to confirm your bias.

Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Bullwinkle on July 30, 2021, 04:33:24 PM
it was called telegraph
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on July 30, 2021, 05:01:37 PM
Tal, this is a flat earth forum. I'm trying to figure out where to move this.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Bullwinkle on July 30, 2021, 05:09:18 PM
Technology, Science & Alt Science ?
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on July 30, 2021, 05:10:27 PM
Yeah, I moved it while you were posting.

Tal, when you find this thread - the upper forums are for talking about flat earth stuff.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Bullwinkle on July 30, 2021, 05:15:27 PM
Haha, I was scrambling to check post times.

Hoping the thread wasn't three days old.   ;D
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: JJA on July 30, 2021, 05:34:45 PM
Title sums it up, I'll clarify though:
It's most likely the internet has existed for centuries if not more.
I'm kinda new to this, are there any theories?
Like maybe the Dark Web is in fact all the information that has existed for centuries/millennia?

But how did the ancient Greeks communicate before UNICODE was developed in 1991?  Were there any scrolls printed out in ASCII? Or more likely EBCDIC, I assume the Greeks had yet to invent the 8th bit.

They only has 24 letters so they only needed 5 bits I suppose.

Do we know Caesar's email address?  SMTP wasn't around back then, so it likely was FidoNet?  UUCP likely was an option due to the intermittent access that primitive internet systems suffererd from.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: markjo on July 30, 2021, 06:02:40 PM
But how did the ancient Greeks communicate before UNICODE was developed in 1991?  Were there any scrolls printed out in ASCII? Or more likely EBCDIC, I assume the Greeks had yet to invent the 8th bit.
FYI, ASCII is 7 bit code while EBCIDIC is 8 bit.  Also, the modern internet is more about networking protocols (TCP and IP) than data encoding.

Have you never heard of social networking?
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Tal Cohen on July 30, 2021, 06:56:48 PM
But how did the ancient Greeks communicate before UNICODE was developed in 1991?  Were there any scrolls printed out in ASCII? Or more likely EBCDIC, I assume the Greeks had yet to invent the 8th bit.
FYI, ASCII is 7 bit code while EBCIDIC is 8 bit.  Also, the modern internet is more about networking protocols (TCP and IP) than data encoding.

Have you never heard of social networking?

Yeah, what about social networking?
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Bullwinkle on July 30, 2021, 07:49:58 PM

Yeah, what about social networking?

Ummmm, a shit load of ignorant children and 20 somethings with devastating credit card debt and a ferocious desire to outdo their "friends" with selfies and memes and lies.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: JJA on July 31, 2021, 04:48:09 AM
But how did the ancient Greeks communicate before UNICODE was developed in 1991?  Were there any scrolls printed out in ASCII? Or more likely EBCDIC, I assume the Greeks had yet to invent the 8th bit.
FYI, ASCII is 7 bit code while EBCIDIC is 8 bit.  Also, the modern internet is more about networking protocols (TCP and IP) than data encoding.

Have you never heard of social networking?

Yeah, what about social networking?

Social justice was lacking in ancient Rome so there was nobody to enforce those protocols.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Tal Cohen on July 31, 2021, 05:34:06 AM

Yeah, what about social networking?

Ummmm, a shit load of ignorant children and 20 somethings with devastating credit card debt and a ferocious desire to outdo their "friends" with selfies and memes and lies.

Haha of course, I'm not sure how it relates to this topic.  :)
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: markjo on July 31, 2021, 05:54:31 PM
Yeah, what about social networking?
The wise man knows everything.
The shrewd man knows everyone.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on August 01, 2021, 01:28:49 PM

It's most likely the internet has existed for centuries if not more.

What are you basing this statement on?
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: JJA on August 01, 2021, 03:24:20 PM

It's most likely the internet has existed for centuries if not more.

What are you basing this statement on?

Probably by dating ancient RFCs some of which could be from prehistoric times.  I'm pretty sure I wrote some of those.  Hard to remember all ones achievements when you're as well rounded and skilled as I am.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Tal Cohen on August 01, 2021, 03:55:05 PM

It's most likely the internet has existed for centuries if not more.

What are you basing this statement on?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo's_robot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talos
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Shifter on August 01, 2021, 04:00:28 PM
I guess it's possible. Maybe they had wireless technology like Australia did centuries ago

After having dug to a depth of 10 feet last year, British scientists found traces of copper wire dating back 200 years and came to the conclusion that their ancestors already had a telephone network more than 150 years ago.

Not to be outdone by the Brit’s, in the weeks that followed, an American archaeologist dug to a depth of 20 feet, and shortly after, a story published in the New York Times: “American archaeologists, finding traces of 250-year-old copper wire, have concluded that their ancestors already had an advanced high-tech communications network 50 years earlier than the British”.

One week later, the state’s Dept of Minerals and Energy in Western Australia, reported the following:

“After digging as deep as 30 feet in Western Australia’s Pilbara region, Jack Lucknow, a self-taught archaeologist, reported that he found absolutely f**k all. Jack has therefore concluded that 250 years ago, Australia had already gone wireless.”
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Bullwinkle on August 01, 2021, 04:09:15 PM
Hahahahaha
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: markjo on August 01, 2021, 05:57:37 PM
I think there have been computers in Ancient Greece, even google kind of agrees, so google it.
Computers existed long before the internet.  Do you even know what the internet is?
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Tal Cohen on August 01, 2021, 06:52:02 PM
I think there have been computers in Ancient Greece, even google kind of agrees, so google it.
Computers existed long before the internet.  Do you even know what the internet is?

Hmm, you're not very bright are you, judging by that question.
Whaddaya think, do I know what the internet is?   ::)

As for your statement before your question, that's called a non-sequitur. You know what that is?
Never mind, I'll assume you don't, so let me put it plainly: so what?
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: markjo on August 01, 2021, 07:06:20 PM
I think there have been computers in Ancient Greece, even google kind of agrees, so google it.
Computers existed long before the internet.  Do you even know what the internet is?

Hmm, you're not very bright are you, judging by that question.
Whaddaya think, do I know what the internet is?   ::)
Considering the fact that none of the ancient technologies that you mentioned have anything to do with networking, I'm thinking that you don't know what the internet is.

As for your statement before your question, that's called a non-sequitur. You know what that is?
Never mind, I'll assume you don't, so let me put it plainly: so what?
*sigh* A non-sequitur is when the following statement does not follow the previous statement, therefore a previous statement can't be a non-sequitur.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on August 02, 2021, 02:16:13 AM

It's most likely the internet has existed for centuries if not more.

What are you basing this statement on?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo's_robot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talos


Quote from: Tal Cohen
that's called a non-sequitur. You know what that is?


So, is this just you kindly demonstrating a non-sequitur to markjo?  Or are you going to tell us what those links have to do with the internet?


This is some real low effort shit, which makes me think you're trolling.  Real cranks usually try to drown you in all sorts of rubbish they've accumulated to support their shonky argument.  Not just lazily linking three irrelevant wiki links.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Tal Cohen on August 02, 2021, 02:48:29 PM
So you cannot fathom that evidence of ancient computers and robots
is a also good basis for ancient internet?
Not my problem.

Btw, there's also evidence that trees communicate via their deep, interconnecting underground roots,
just like a network of networks and an example of ancient and botanical internet.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: JJA on August 02, 2021, 03:51:37 PM
So you cannot fathom that evidence of ancient computers and robots
is a also good basis for ancient internet?
Not my problem.

Ancient robots?  I found more evidence of them for you.  They seem to pop up all throughout history, and even the future! I think we have a guy here who can help with the future stuff, he's got connections.

I do have a question, where did they all go? Did their batteries run out?

(https://i.imgur.com/RCPX0um.gif)

Btw, there's also evidence that trees communicate via their deep, interconnecting underground roots,
just like a network of networks and an example of ancient and botanical internet.

Are you talking about the giant floating space trees in a gas torus?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6a/0b/10/6a0b10707c23f4320dd06ed2043be578.jpg)

But they didn't talk.  Oh, I suppose these guys could have served as a pre-computer internet.  Do you think they were the network that allowed the ancient Egyptians and Ancient Romans to talk about the uses of pyramids and marble columns in alt.building.ancient.structures on USENET?

Fascinating to imagine. I can't seem to find any USENET archives that go back a thousand years or more.

You seem to have a lead on such things, got an IP address for where all the ancient internet stuff is archived?  The Wayback Machine doesn't seem to have anything.

(https://i.imgur.com/Q9j75Yj.jpeg)

Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: markjo on August 02, 2021, 03:53:48 PM
So you cannot fathom that evidence of ancient computers and robots
is a also good basis for ancient internet?
I believe that the ancient sneakernet predates any ancient internet.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on August 03, 2021, 06:09:58 AM
When the Romans broke the ring of trees on the isle of Mona with fire and iron, those Druids who survived the massacre scattered to the winds, but not randomly, for they had a final purpose.
The great circle contained all species of tree the Celts revered in their lands stretching from the Emerald Isle to the grass seas of the Asiatic steppes. No normal trees were they, Hawthorn the size of Oak, Oaks whose span could hide a village, these were the fathers and mothers of their species and in desecrating this locus the Romans hoped to poison the web of life.


Even modern biblical scholars have attributed the 666 in revelations to Nero and ever since the disappearance of his body (see Jesus), the anti-christ label has stuck. In Celtic eyes there is no distinction between the two, for the Abrahamic religions are worshipers of the dead, their subjugation of women a signifier of their hostility to natural order.
Jesus was the harbinger, the risen parody of life born from the dead wood cross with man as the focus. Nero the necromancer fanned the flames, lip serving the old beliefs at home and persecuting Christians, he hastened its miasmic spread by contaminating the well-head with iron and creating martyrs, more corpses to venerate.

As for the few remaining Druids they were contrite, centuries ago when the oracles had foretold the coming of the God who ate all and his demon children. The followers of the Matriarch had counselled for guile, seduction and feigned assimilation as the only way to survive, as was her way.
The other side considered this approach weak; a warrior priesthood was the answer who would cast back the invaders. Now their folly revealed they would use what time they had to sever the heart from the body to limit the spread of toxicity and grow a new heart. They were not successful the contamination running down the lay-lines before them.

It is rumoured the priestesses never stopped their planning, working down through the ages to thwart the death god and its planned ruination of the earth, its rapture. Let us hope so.               

See Tal, I mean I know you are just kicking your heels until your ban is lifted but put some effort into it.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on August 03, 2021, 12:03:08 PM
Now that is high quality, well written bullshit.     C:-)

Not some lazily presented irrelevant wiki links.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: NotSoSkeptical on August 03, 2021, 07:15:58 PM
What I really want to know is how efficiently could porn be streamed on this Ancient internet?
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Stash on August 03, 2021, 07:38:39 PM
What I really want to know is how efficiently could porn be streamed on this Ancient internet?

Ditto. The ancient internet would have probably more porn-y than now - They were a saucy lot back then.
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Bullwinkle on August 03, 2021, 07:48:19 PM
ancient internet porn coin . . .

(https://i.imgur.com/fj8Jwpo.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on August 04, 2021, 02:40:49 AM
What I really want to know is how efficiently could porn be streamed on this Ancient internet?
Not very. You'd basically have to get your vases lined up

(https://www.ancientsculpturegallery.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/bc6accaccdfefd23b3b058f7e87d7447/v/2/v200_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: JJA on August 04, 2021, 04:08:26 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/g9DscZo.jpeg)

This is clearly the earliest form of the interwebs I could find, although I keep trying to extract the data and failing.

I'm sure if I use the right switches on tar I will be able to decode this ancient message.

What wonders might we uncover?  I think NASA is beaming anti-internet rays at my computer to stop my decoding, does anyone know if there is a kernel patch to stop them?
Title: Re: Ancient internet?
Post by: Shifter on August 04, 2021, 04:55:44 AM
The contestants of the Olympics used to be naked. Live porn show. But they probably only allowed male athletes back then so would not have been worth my time