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Title: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 23, 2020, 08:35:42 PM
Initially, the nature of alcohol is "cool" and not destroying the body. As the proof, if touching the skin, nothing harm happens, even it fells chilly.

But if the alcohol enters the body through mouth, there will be some damage within organs, blood vessels, nerves etc.

That's why in religions, alcohol is prohibited.
But why alcohol will be repermitted in heaven (on earth) in the future?
Because alcohol will feel chilly all the time, in all places and situations.
Alcohol will be a really good drink without harming the nerves or distracting the mind.

This condition will be possible when human's (inner) bodies have been safe from destroying factors such as / especially Electronic Assaults, so that the (inner) body's condition will always be firm, and can deal with alcohol without negative side effects as much as the skin has nothing problem when touched by the alcohol. Alcohol will feel exciting and healthy.

How will that change happen?
It can be through war or ethnic cleansing,
It can also be through peaceful way such as through education, advice, science etc.

So if 'they' are in moments of reflection or thinking about the future, it's best if the alcohol gets kept away from them.
Because thinking with fears, or negative perspective of the future will result decisions that give damage to all people, either good or bad ones.

Who 'they'?

 Global Elites.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Stash on November 23, 2020, 08:47:21 PM
Initially, the nature of alcohol is "cool" and not destroying the body. As the proof, if touching the skin, nothing harm happens, even it fells chilly.

But if the alcohol enters the body through mouth, there will be some damage within organs, blood vessels, nerves etc.

That's why in religions, alcohol is prohibited.
But why alcohol will be repermitted in heaven (on earth) in the future?
Because alcohol will feel chilly all the time, in all places and situations.
Alcohol will be a really good drink without harming the nerves or distracting the mind.

This condition will be possible when human's (inner) bodies have been safe from destroying factors such as / especially Electronic Assaults, so that the (inner) body's condition will always be firm, and can deal with alcohol without negative side effects as much as the skin has nothing problem when touched by the alcohol. Alcohol will feel exciting and healthy.

How will that change happen?
It can be through war or ethnic cleansing,
It can also be through peaceful way such as through education, advice, science etc.

So if 'they' are in moments of reflection or thinking about the future, it's best if the alcohol gets kept away from them.
Because thinking with fears, or negative perspective of the future will result decisions that give damage to all people, either good or bad ones.

Who 'they'?

 Global Elites.

Are you drunk?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: markjo on November 23, 2020, 09:09:26 PM

.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: faded mike on November 23, 2020, 10:14:08 PM
I don't drink.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 23, 2020, 11:06:36 PM
Are you drunk?

Drunk of Love. 😘 😘 😘
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 23, 2020, 11:16:28 PM

.

I didn't suggest people to stop drinking alcohol for better alcohol in after life.
Better alcohol in This life is also possible.

Especially for global elites, if they can think with stable emotion (=without alcohol influence), they could come up with good, rational conclusion/decision by self conscience i.e. to stop their crimes.
By stopping their crimes, they will be safe from penalty by God, and... the alcohol begins to be beneficial.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 23, 2020, 11:20:02 PM
I don't drink.

That's the right decision. No wonder you are one of the most logical people here.

(no offense to others)
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Stash on November 23, 2020, 11:41:02 PM
Are you drunk?

Drunk of Love. 😘 😘 😘

Love of what? Being drunk?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on November 24, 2020, 01:04:02 AM
I don't drink.

That's the right decision. No wonder you are one of the most logical people here.

(no offense to others)

No offense taken, that I am not part of the logical group of you and Mikey is of course a blow, and I must admit that I thought the conclusions you both reached were done so on vast amounts of alcohol.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: sokarul on November 24, 2020, 11:06:27 AM
Ethanol has played a huge role in the history of humans. We are able to process alcohol just fine.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 24, 2020, 12:15:45 PM
Will there be a heavenly version of meth?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Stash on November 24, 2020, 12:18:03 PM
Will there be a heavenly version of meth?

Better be. Quality here on earth has gone way downhill in the past few years.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: sokarul on November 24, 2020, 12:18:41 PM
Will there be a heavenly version of meth?

Only weed.




Skip to 35 seconds for the joke if you want.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 24, 2020, 12:37:12 PM
Will there be a heavenly version of meth?

Only weed.




Skip to 35 seconds for the joke if you want.

Man, I bet Jesus has the best weed.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: markjo on November 24, 2020, 01:14:50 PM
Will there be a heavenly version of meth?
In Heaven, God is the only drug you will ever need.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 24, 2020, 09:45:48 PM
Are you drunk?

Drunk of Love. 😘 😘 😘

Love of what? Being drunk?

Being drunk of love, 👉 love is the 'alcohol' itself. 😇
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 24, 2020, 09:47:32 PM
Will there be a heavenly version of meth?

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/polish_20201125_123635304-1.jpg)

What else? 😇
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: faded mike on November 24, 2020, 09:53:24 PM
I still like drinking dealcoholized beer - i'll knock back a few of those puppies and go for drive and just be like "yeah, I'm normally cool".
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 24, 2020, 09:55:00 PM
I don't drink.

That's the right decision. No wonder you are one of the most logical people here.

(no offense to others)

No offense taken, that I am not part of the logical group of you and Mikey is of course a blow, and I must admit that I thought the conclusions you both reached were done so on vast amounts of alcohol.

I'd love to taste alcohol which has no side effects. Hopefully in this life. 😇

By the way, what kind of arbitrase can you do for people?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 24, 2020, 09:56:19 PM
Ethanol has played a huge role in the history of humans. We are able to process alcohol just fine.

Non dizzy alcohol?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 24, 2020, 10:01:07 PM
I still like drinking dealcoholized beer - i'll knock back a few of those puppies and go for drive and just be like "yeah, I'm normally cool".

Next time the beer will be upgraded beyond all the existing best beers.

"Beer with tame alcohol"  8)
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 24, 2020, 10:04:39 PM
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(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/polish_20201125_120635175.jpg)
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: faded mike on November 24, 2020, 10:45:42 PM
(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/polish_20201125_115904258.jpg)

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/polish_20201125_120635175.jpg)

Hedonism? What is the definition?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: faded mike on November 24, 2020, 10:47:37 PM
What is the source of that?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 25, 2020, 01:04:58 AM
Hedonism is an orientation of physical pleasures in any form: food, drink, narcotic, weed, sex, entertainment, tourism, party etc.
Pursuit of pleasures, and avoidance of unpleasant things.
Hedonism is basically good, as long as it doesn't cause harmful effects either for individual, or society.

God, by nature, wanted all creatures to feel joy and happiness with any kind of pleasures.
Then there was a nasty quarrel that in turn changed the system: from heavenly system to be worldly one.

This world is actually still the same heaven, even by default is heaven itself. Only, the vibes is not heaven anymore due to electronic assault from any direction. Tranquil is hard to obtain.
In the past, technology is much sophisticated than today's technology.
If the Lucifer's team are willing to stop the electronic assault, the world will become heaven as Adam's era.
Repentance means sins will be forgiven and heaven will greet you.
Only the drunk :o will reject such an offer. So to them I'd say: stay away from alcohol just for a while, i.e. when you are contemplating to decide things in the future.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 25, 2020, 01:07:30 AM
What is the source of that?

Since I'm not a celebrity, I let the quote be without the author's name, which is me. ;D
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on November 25, 2020, 03:29:57 AM


If the Lucifer's team are willing to stop the electronic assault, the world will become heaven as Adam's era.
Repentance means sins will be forgiven and heaven will greet you.


Well Iím kind of a Lucifer fan. He and the other rogue angels are the very first victims of truth decay, the church glossing over the fact that there must have been something very nasty in the woodshed for the angels to kick off, these were pure beings who worshipped the big kahuna not disgruntled plebs.
 
That the church ran all media sources with a rigidity and proscriptive viciousness that Murdoch could only dream of and labelled them as the baby eating monsters without contest is history, and yet you free thinkers have never questioned this fact.

Though this very same church has to continually back track and apologise for pogroms, murderous crusades, the inquisition, slavery, child abuse, supporting Naziís and TV evangelists with itís adherents treating the above crimes with a passive blinkered shrug that surely indicates the collective mind control you attribute to shadowy forces that donít have either the historical lineage, ubiquitous reach or proven brutality in suppression of dissent that the church clearly has.
What is a flock made of?

Pass the bottle please Lucifer, i'm buying.     
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on November 25, 2020, 05:04:22 AM
Well Iím kind of a Lucifer fan.

They seem to advertise that show a lot.  Never watched one though.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on November 25, 2020, 05:11:22 AM
Well Iím kind of a Lucifer fan.

They seem to advertise that show a lot.  Never watched one though.

I looked (obviously) but netflix starts a few seasons in and I would have missed the start and I hate that.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: markjo on November 25, 2020, 06:33:53 AM
I'd love to taste alcohol which has no side effects. Hopefully in this life. 😇
It's called water.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 25, 2020, 02:55:16 PM
Well Iím kind of a Lucifer fan. He and the other rogue angels are the very first victims of truth decay, the church glossing over the fact that there must have been something very nasty in the woodshed for the angels to kick off, these were pure beings who worshipped the big kahuna not disgruntled plebs.

What source did you take this version from? Does this belief has long history with real believers?
Are you trying to say Lucifer & friends are actually good persons being slandered?
Please show me the proof.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Stash on November 25, 2020, 03:06:50 PM
Well Iím kind of a Lucifer fan. He and the other rogue angels are the very first victims of truth decay, the church glossing over the fact that there must have been something very nasty in the woodshed for the angels to kick off, these were pure beings who worshipped the big kahuna not disgruntled plebs.

What source did you take this version from? Does this belief has long history with real believers?
Are you trying to say Lucifer & friends are actually good persons being slandered?
Please show me the proof.

How about proof heaven exists first?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 25, 2020, 03:19:45 PM
Stop, we're going to have our heavenly booze and meth!
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: markjo on November 25, 2020, 03:49:13 PM
How about proof heaven exists first?
Don't worry, you'll have all the proof you will ever need soon enough.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: sokarul on November 25, 2020, 04:11:02 PM
Why do you guys want proof?

Itís just the percent alcohol doubled.

Who cares?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Stash on November 25, 2020, 04:18:26 PM
Stop, we're going to have our heavenly booze and meth!

Good call. I formally retract my earlier statement. Bring on the Heaven Hedonism!
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 25, 2020, 06:07:41 PM
How about proof heaven exists first?
Don't worry, you'll have all the proof you will ever need soon enough.

Seems like you know by first hand about the true current affairs going on at present.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 25, 2020, 06:52:50 PM
Well I’m kind of a Lucifer fan. He and the other rogue angels are the very first victims of truth decay, the church glossing over the fact that there must have been something very nasty in the woodshed for the angels to kick off, these were pure beings who worshipped the big kahuna not disgruntled plebs.

What source did you take this version from? Does this belief has long history with real believers?
Are you trying to say Lucifer & friends are actually good persons being slandered?
Please show me the proof.

How about proof heaven exists first?

Have you felt tranquil? How was that happened?

There are people finding tranquil by drug, alcohol, narcotic, or such.

There are also people finding tranquil by good behavior, including ritual, reciting holy scripture, even by just singing, dancing, gym or taking a walk.

The point is: the electronic assault effect got reduced so that the human nerves become approaching the default state, i.e. feeling tranquiled.

Factors of reducing (or vanishing) the electronic assault, among others:

1. Substances that feel chilly, from narcotic to mint. Electronic assault is like fire, it cannot fully be effective harming when it collides with chilly substances (including water).
2. Human electromagnetic radiation resulted from ritual, singing, thinking and other good activities.
So far in my personal experience, I found three most tranquilling places: Mecca, Medina, Bali. (I never went to Jerusalem by the way).
Those three places are indicated with constant religious rituals by so many people at the same time.
3. Incense, fragrance, even candle as practiced by traditional tribes.
4. The Lucifer's operators turn off the devices, and this is the best scenario because without any effort, humans will feel tranquil automatically.

By default the world is a heaven because the earth travels super duper fast with (in my opinion) decreasing speed. Consequently human nerves will vibrate and give the sensation of "blissful feeling".

That's the default condition of the universe before there came disturbance from electronic device by Lucifer and squads.

PS:
Is it really Lucifer that harms humans? Is Lucifer another name of Azazil AKA Iblis?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Bullwinkle on November 25, 2020, 10:39:36 PM

Better alcohol in This life is also possible.

Do you mean Name brands?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Stash on November 25, 2020, 11:52:09 PM

Better alcohol in This life is also possible.

Do you mean Name brands?

Top shelf versus Well? I would agree.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Bullwinkle on November 26, 2020, 01:38:48 AM

Better alcohol in This life is also possible.

Do you mean Name brands?

Top shelf versus Well? I would agree.

For the first drink, I guess.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Stash on November 26, 2020, 02:21:58 AM

Better alcohol in This life is also possible.

Do you mean Name brands?

Top shelf versus Well? I would agree.

For the first drink, I guess.

Solid point. It's not like it matters much, heaven or no heaven, after the first 3 fingers pour.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on November 26, 2020, 03:08:20 AM

PS:
Is it really Lucifer that harms humans? Is Lucifer another name of Azazil AKA Iblis?


Indeed, who knows, with these old musty tomes full of ambivalence and misdirection?

But if that guy is like Azazel, then he is the root of the devil as a goat meme, the original scapegoat where a people were allowed to load all their sins off on to said animal and chase it out into the desert, the other goat was of course killed in the name of god, sins to the devil, blood sacrifice for the god guy.

Of course all this has nothing to do with alcohol, but the prohibition tendency is strong within all controlling societies that fear their flock having a moment of unfettered  freedom in case they get a taste for it, the older more naturalistic pagan societies revelled in the release & independence of the human spirit and encouraged people to get off their tits.

I pity the puritan, but know also that he is my enemy and of all that is natural.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 26, 2020, 04:44:51 PM

Better alcohol in This life is also possible.

Do you mean Name brands?

Top shelf versus Well? I would agree.

For the first drink, I guess.

Solid point. It's not like it matters much, heaven or no heaven, after the first 3 fingers pour.

Alcohol protects the nerves from electronic assault. That's why you feel good.

But I wonder how it feels after the alcohol ain't give effect anymore a few hours after drinking.
Was it a normal condition you had? No dizzy or pain as happened in narcotic usage?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 26, 2020, 04:47:52 PM

Better alcohol in This life is also possible.

Do you mean Name brands?

Nope, I'm hardly familiar with beer brands.
We know a few brands such as John Walker, Mention, or Bintang (a local Indonesian beer).
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on November 26, 2020, 05:09:30 PM
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The prohibition tendency is strong within all controlling societies that fear their flock having a moment of unfettered  freedom in case they get a taste for it.

As long as the pleasure is safe, I believe that's what God initially wanted all humans to enjoy. A globally wellknown Muslim poet named Jalaluddin Rumi said in his poem that (in my words) : true God's servants will enjoy what hedonists are enjoying now: kinda party life or such -- with a bit different notion.

I pity the puritan, but know also that he is my enemy and of all that is natural.

(CMIIW) you mean Azazel is your enemy? What about Lucifer?

I heard about "Queen of Heaven". Who is she? And what was wrong with her?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: faded mike on December 10, 2020, 11:14:35 PM
I never thought much about all this before. I think the big thing would be sex though, not drugs.

But more realistically - no offence of course - we would gain the ability to do real un doubtable good deeds that would be rewarding beyond anything we know. Instant high forever type of thing.

I think alot of this other stuff is stress relief juggling....?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on December 11, 2020, 02:23:41 AM

Mikey? You want to fast from sex to get better sex in heaven?

Thatís a long shot position to take, that will only serve to remove your genes from the pool and mean you are missing out on children and three-someís, and if I am right (and I generally am), when the absolute oblivion of death takes you, unknowingly you will have wasted your only chance.

Pick a religion that venerates sex, go Tantric, do not waste your life in a hair shirt.
Oh, and jugglers? Should only be allowed to juggle grenades with the pins pulled, I hate jugglers.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Shifter on December 11, 2020, 05:40:50 AM
Do you have to 'want' something to be 'fasting' from it?

See, I don't give a damn about alcohol. I haven't touched it in years. I simply don't care to spend the dosh drinking it. Also, I think it tastes gross. So does that still count as fasting?

As to sex, do the incels who are too ugly or too much of an arsehole to ever get laid - are they rewarded with better sex in heaven? Or because they are on the prowl does the fast not count?



Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Bullwinkle on December 11, 2020, 06:36:32 AM
If shit is even better in heaven then we should really over do it on Earth.   ;D
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on December 11, 2020, 05:56:49 PM
But more realistically - no offence of course - we would gain the ability to do real un doubtable good deeds that would be rewarding beyond anything we know. Instant high forever type of thing.

Humans eyes, ears and imagination
cannot touch how beautiful and pleasurable the true heaven will be.

But this world was created sophistically. It used to be heaven and still be now. Though it's like a luxurious palace without maintainance. It possibly can be reshaped as it looked before, i.e. by stopping those who make damage on that palace.

Is there sex in heaven? Probably there is in the earth, there is not in tbe sky.
One may say "the earth is hell, the sky is heaven". What is in a name? ;D
All places will be pleasurable. Because.... "God is Good" ~ Joan Osborne 8)
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Space Cowgirl on December 11, 2020, 06:38:10 PM
I bet the shrooms in heaven are heavenly.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on December 11, 2020, 07:02:37 PM
Do you have to 'want' something to be 'fasting' from it?

See, I don't give a damn about alcohol. I haven't touched it in years. I simply don't care to spend the dosh drinking it. Also, I think it tastes gross. So does that still count as fasting?

As to sex, do the incels who are too ugly or too much of an arsehole to ever get laid - are they rewarded with better sex in heaven? Or because they are on the prowl does the fast not count?

Initially this thread is about "a moment of fasting from alcohol".
I don't too care if they still drink alcohol. BUT if their behavior gave bad impact to the world, I suggested them to contemplate just for a moment with peaceful state of mind and free from alcohol. Who knows they will rethink of what they've done so far and get back to the right track that is universally accepted.

who knows = no guarantee  ;D

Anyway, It's interesting, there are people including you not liking the alcohol.
It's similar case to an expensive fruit called durian.

"Fasting" means "faster" to get what you need and want. It can cover various notions and objectives. "Breaking the pattern for a while" is important for further advancements.

In heaven, no one looks ugly. Grandmas will look young, so will other old people.
Even in the current time, there have  been people that look much younger than their actual age. There have not been precedence in the past.

One example:
Yana Julio, a senior singer, born on April 8th, 1960. He is 60 now.

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/screenshot_2020-12-12_092018.jpg?w=1024)


What sign is it?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on December 11, 2020, 07:07:07 PM
If shit is even better in heaven then we should really over do it on Earth.   ;D

Good luck  ;D
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on December 11, 2020, 07:08:34 PM
I bet the shrooms in heaven are heavenly.

it's logically logic ;D
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Shifter on December 11, 2020, 07:45:26 PM
Do you have to 'want' something to be 'fasting' from it?

See, I don't give a damn about alcohol. I haven't touched it in years. I simply don't care to spend the dosh drinking it. Also, I think it tastes gross. So does that still count as fasting?

As to sex, do the incels who are too ugly or too much of an arsehole to ever get laid - are they rewarded with better sex in heaven? Or because they are on the prowl does the fast not count?

Initially this thread is about "a moment of fasting from alcohol".
I don't too care if they still drink alcohol. BUT if their behavior gave bad impact to the world, I suggested them to contemplate just for a moment with peaceful state of mind and free from alcohol. Who knows they will rethink of what they've done so far and get back to the right track that is universally accepted.

who knows = no guarantee  ;D

Anyway, It's interesting, there are people including you not liking the alcohol.
It's similar case to an expensive fruit called durian.

"Fasting" means "faster" to get what you need and want. It can cover various notions and objectives. "Breaking the pattern for a while" is important for further advancements.

In heaven, no one looks ugly. Grandmas will look young, so will other old people.
Even in the current time, there have  been people that look much younger than their actual age. There have not been precedence in the past.

One example:
Yana Julio, a senior singer, born on April 8th, 1960. He is 60 now.

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/screenshot_2020-12-12_092018.jpg?w=1024)


What sign is it?

Why would old people need to look young? Do we even need physical bodies in heaven? Why do old people not look beautiful? Is there vanity in heaven?

Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on December 12, 2020, 01:53:08 PM
Why would old people need to look young?

Everyone would love to look young. In heaven, everyone looks young forever. No illness, no weary, no physical displeasure etc..


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Do we even need physical bodies in heaven?

It takes physical body to feel physical pleasures. So does spiritual body..


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Why do old people not look beautiful?

They're physically not beautiful. Such an universal opinion comes from genes, not only culture.
But of course old people can also look beautiful due to their inner qualities. It's also a universal fact.


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Is there vanity in heaven?

There is zero vanity in heaven. If there is an atom sized of vanity in this world, such an individual will go to hell.
The definition of vanity:
1. Rejecting the known truth.
2. Looking down on humans, especially whom bring the truth.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: markjo on December 12, 2020, 03:30:18 PM
Heaven is about spiritual gratification and fulfillment.  Physical concerns are not relevant.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Shifter on December 12, 2020, 10:56:26 PM
I always thought with religion, our body was a shell that houses the soul. Just a container. When we die, there is no use of it. We'd exist as energy.

A physical body succumbs to aging, disease, harm and requires lots of maintenance to keep functioning. Hardly a guarantee of 'everlasting life' if such life is yet again the way we live now

I'm not buying that heaven is full of physical bodied people all vying for pleasures like sex and alcohol. What a ridiculous notion
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: Danang on December 13, 2020, 03:23:15 PM
If God has easily created humans from nothing to become something, why so hard He reshapes dead bones to become the new humans?

Is there sex in heaven, or spiritual pleasure, or reincarnation, last life, heaven in other dimension, heaven on earth, one type of heaven, two types of heavens etc. all are the realities in the future to judge which ones are the cases.
Or it applies "you'll get what you believe".
Who knows?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: faded mike on December 22, 2020, 10:43:05 PM
I don't drink.

That's the right decision. No wonder you are one of the most logical people here.

(no offense to others)

No offense taken, that I am not part of the logical group of you and Mikey is of course a blow, and I must admit that I thought the conclusions you both reached were done so on vast amounts of alcohol.

I'd love to taste alcohol which has no side effects. Hopefully in this life. 😇

By the way, what kind of arbitrase can you do for people?
I'll try to send you some if you can cover the cost - i'm broke. Theyre about 70cents each - thats about 0.5 USD.  12 beers for like $10 CA/ 7 USD. Of course, shipping is probably worth 20 bigones, unless you don't mind waiting, could maybe ship it slow for 5 or 10 dollars...?
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: faded mike on December 22, 2020, 10:44:04 PM
Sorry guys if i broke forum rules there, go ahead and remove the comment, or i could.
Title: Re: "Fasting from alcohol for better alcohol in Eden"
Post by: faded mike on December 22, 2020, 10:44:41 PM
But yeah, delicious and nutritious.