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Title: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 26, 2020, 05:01:02 PM
Which one is true?

THIS

(http://www.f-lohmueller.de/pov_tut/animate/im/planet_00ani.gif)

or THIS?

(http://www.f-lohmueller.de/pov_tut/animate/im/planet_01ani.gif)
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: JJA on October 26, 2020, 05:04:29 PM
Which one is true?

THIS

(http://www.f-lohmueller.de/pov_tut/animate/im/planet_00ani.gif)

or THIS?

(http://www.f-lohmueller.de/pov_tut/animate/im/planet_01ani.gif)

Uh... both are right.  Depends on if you are looking at the solar system from the top or the bottom.

Do the wheels on your car turn clockwise or counterclockwise?
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 26, 2020, 05:07:27 PM
Let me try again:

THIS

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/NzeZEoevAVE54iTti1L3TFipUFQCxdoj9-D-dMCSxBH5UunSd4Vu0K01iQ0MtG-l7mTpVONYzB9CqdjN2eAWX21Km-aY0QVXkT1k3akSx7-IyP23mfA)

Or THIS?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/ae/ec/23aeecd2d0ef7fa1d1fbb14a79c5fb09.gif)
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 26, 2020, 05:12:46 PM
Which one is true?

THIS

(http://www.f-lohmueller.de/pov_tut/animate/im/planet_00ani.gif)

or THIS?

(http://www.f-lohmueller.de/pov_tut/animate/im/planet_01ani.gif)

Uh... both are right.  Depends on if you are looking at the solar system from the top or the bottom.

Do the wheels on your car turn clockwise or counterclockwise?

By the lates gif files, the moon goes westwards on monthly basis AKA one rotation around the earth per month.

Is that correct?
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 26, 2020, 05:14:54 PM
Normally the north is at up part and the south is at down part 🤔
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: JJA on October 26, 2020, 05:22:23 PM
Normally the north is at up part and the south is at down part 🤔

You have to define your assumptions or nobody will know what they are.

If the north pole is pointing up, then this one is correct.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/ae/ec/23aeecd2d0ef7fa1d1fbb14a79c5fb09.gif)
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: markjo on October 26, 2020, 05:26:08 PM
Let me try again:

THIS

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/NzeZEoevAVE54iTti1L3TFipUFQCxdoj9-D-dMCSxBH5UunSd4Vu0K01iQ0MtG-l7mTpVONYzB9CqdjN2eAWX21Km-aY0QVXkT1k3akSx7-IyP23mfA)

Or THIS?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/ae/ec/23aeecd2d0ef7fa1d1fbb14a79c5fb09.gif)
Neither.  The scales are completely wrong.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 26, 2020, 06:50:43 PM
Normally the north is at up part and the south is at down part 🤔

You have to define your assumptions or nobody will know what they are.

If the north pole is pointing up, then this one is correct.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/ae/ec/23aeecd2d0ef7fa1d1fbb14a79c5fb09.gif)

It's okay for the moon's shadow going eastwards -in solar eclipse- BUT it's only for monthly basis per moon's rotation. And it should be counted day by day. That is absurd.

For daily basis model, still, the moon shadow is supposed to go westwards, and that contradicts to reality in solar eclipse whose umbra goes eastwards.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 26, 2020, 06:53:24 PM
Let me try again:

THIS

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/NzeZEoevAVE54iTti1L3TFipUFQCxdoj9-D-dMCSxBH5UunSd4Vu0K01iQ0MtG-l7mTpVONYzB9CqdjN2eAWX21Km-aY0QVXkT1k3akSx7-IyP23mfA)

Or THIS?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/ae/ec/23aeecd2d0ef7fa1d1fbb14a79c5fb09.gif)
Neither.  The scales are completely wrong.

Feel free to show me the correct, unchangable description about earth, moon and sun movements.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Stash on October 26, 2020, 07:05:45 PM
Normally the north is at up part and the south is at down part 🤔

You have to define your assumptions or nobody will know what they are.

If the north pole is pointing up, then this one is correct.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/ae/ec/23aeecd2d0ef7fa1d1fbb14a79c5fb09.gif)

It's okay for the moon's shadow going eastwards -in solar eclipse- BUT it's only for monthly basis per moon's rotation. And it should be counted day by day. That is absurd.

For daily basis model, still, the moon shadow is supposed to go westwards, and that contradicts to reality in solar eclipse whose umbra goes eastwards.

(https://i.imgur.com/jmCX2vN.gif)
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: sokarul on October 26, 2020, 07:19:37 PM
Normally the north is at up part and the south is at down part 🤔

You have to define your assumptions or nobody will know what they are.

If the north pole is pointing up, then this one is correct.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/ae/ec/23aeecd2d0ef7fa1d1fbb14a79c5fb09.gif)

It's okay for the moon's shadow going eastwards -in solar eclipse- BUT it's only for monthly basis per moon's rotation. And it should be counted day by day. That is absurd.

For daily basis model, still, the moon shadow is supposed to go westwards, and that contradicts to reality in solar eclipse whose umbra goes eastwards.

(https://i.imgur.com/jmCX2vN.gif)
perfect
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 26, 2020, 07:21:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jmCX2vN.gif)

This is probably the best gif pic in the internet. But it doesn't connect to solar system model. The sun gradually goes beyond the moon. That's why the moon's shadow goes eastwards with changing speeds.

I don't see the suitable model except PHEW FE Map.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 26, 2020, 07:25:29 PM
If the solar system was true, the umbra would go horizontally. Coz it's equinox.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: markjo on October 26, 2020, 07:33:00 PM
If the solar system was true, the umbra would go horizontally. Coz it's equinox.
That was the eclipse of August 21, 2017.  It did not happen on the equinox.
http://regulus-starnotes.blogspot.com/2017/08/approaching-totality-preparing-to-go-to.html
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: sokarul on October 26, 2020, 07:33:27 PM
If the solar system was true, the umbra would go horizontally. Coz it's equinox.
The 2017 solar eclipse didnít happen on the equinox.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 26, 2020, 07:43:43 PM
If the solar system was true, the umbra would go horizontally. Coz it's equinox.
The 2017 solar eclipse didnít happen on the equinox.

 ;D Okay, it's August. But fo the globe model, the moon cannot shift its latitude that fast. Such a view only applies for circle path orbits as shown in FE model.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 26, 2020, 07:46:28 PM
If the solar system was true, the umbra would go horizontally. Coz it's equinox.
That was the eclipse of August 21, 2017.  It did not happen on the equinox.
http://regulus-starnotes.blogspot.com/2017/08/approaching-totality-preparing-to-go-to.html

Okay, how does the moon's shadow shift its latitude so fast?
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Stash on October 26, 2020, 08:58:11 PM
If the solar system was true, the umbra would go horizontally. Coz it's equinox.
That was the eclipse of August 21, 2017.  It did not happen on the equinox.
http://regulus-starnotes.blogspot.com/2017/08/approaching-totality-preparing-to-go-to.html

Okay, how does the moon's shadow shift its latitude so fast?

Why don't you show us how the 2017 eclipse works on the Phew version of earth?
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: JJA on October 27, 2020, 03:55:39 AM
Normally the north is at up part and the south is at down part 🤔

You have to define your assumptions or nobody will know what they are.

If the north pole is pointing up, then this one is correct.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/ae/ec/23aeecd2d0ef7fa1d1fbb14a79c5fb09.gif)

It's okay for the moon's shadow going eastwards -in solar eclipse- BUT it's only for monthly basis per moon's rotation. And it should be counted day by day. That is absurd.

For daily basis model, still, the moon shadow is supposed to go westwards, and that contradicts to reality in solar eclipse whose umbra goes eastwards.

Daily basis model?  What model is this?  Got a diagram?  The moon orbits the same direction daily as well as monthly.  It doesn't change.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: markjo on October 27, 2020, 06:13:44 AM
If the solar system was true, the umbra would go horizontally. Coz it's equinox.
That was the eclipse of August 21, 2017.  It did not happen on the equinox.
http://regulus-starnotes.blogspot.com/2017/08/approaching-totality-preparing-to-go-to.html

Okay, how does the moon's shadow shift its latitude so fast?
By the fact that the earth is tilted on its axis and the moon's orbit is tilted relative to the ecliptic.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 28, 2020, 04:21:13 AM
Unfortunately I never found a clear explanation with proper logic.
You must present either the earth rotating westwards or the moon goes westwards.

And both are contradictory to solar system.

By the way I've got a better explanation than the previous one:

RAHU GOES SOUTHWARDS INTERSECTING THE SUN'S PATH

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201028_062912684.jpg?w=1024)

This model answers "why the umbra's latitudes change, or go southwards (besides eastwards)
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 28, 2020, 04:22:07 AM
Feel free to show a gif pic with sun, moon and earth visible.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: markjo on October 28, 2020, 06:23:50 AM
Feel free to show a photograph of Rahu visible.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: frenat on October 28, 2020, 07:55:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/jmCX2vN.gif)

This is probably the best gif pic in the internet. But it doesn't connect to solar system model. The sun gradually goes beyond the moon. That's why the moon's shadow goes eastwards with changing speeds.

I don't see the suitable model except PHEW FE Map.
It does connect to the solar system. Just because YOU don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't work. What doesn't work is anything with your joke of a model PHEW.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 29, 2020, 03:04:20 AM
Csse closed ~

Where's the gif pic?

Or let me help you out to present the "right" solar system on such a solar eclipse, with just common jpg pics.:

Letís go straight to the description.

In Texas (or places with the same longitudes), at midday ~ 12:00 AM, on 2017, August, 21st ~ the earth, moon and sun are lining up.

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201029_161108239.jpg)


And then the Moon goes eastwards FASTER than the Earthís eastwards rotation speed. The Moon WILL separate from the Sun (at most 180į) till the next day at midday, the sun and the moon will ďreunite againĒ.

This is the flaw of Solar System. The reality ainít that way.

In reality, the sun and the moon always go together all day long till tomorrow with difference of around 11į per 24 hours.

Letís go to the sunrise time, 6:00 AM at the next day ~ on 2017, August, 22nd ~ the moon will stay at azimuth around 8į.

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201029_161243690.jpg)

This is not the true reality in sunrise time

Again, the sun and the moon are supposed to relatively go together all day long, not separated as shown in such a Solar System model.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 29, 2020, 03:05:16 AM
"No complete gif pic is hoax" ~
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 29, 2020, 03:16:15 AM
Here is Rahu  8)

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201028_104801759.jpg?w=768)
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: sokarul on October 29, 2020, 04:20:32 AM
Here is Rahu  8)

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201028_104801759.jpg?w=768)


https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/16436/is-this-picture-of-a-digital-camera-being-oversaturated-by-bright-light-source-i
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 29, 2020, 04:54:26 AM
Here is Rahu  8)

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201028_104801759.jpg?w=768)


https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/16436/is-this-picture-of-a-digital-camera-being-oversaturated-by-bright-light-source-i

Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: JJA on October 29, 2020, 05:11:06 AM
Here is Rahu  8)

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201028_104801759.jpg?w=768)


https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/16436/is-this-picture-of-a-digital-camera-being-oversaturated-by-bright-light-source-i



Use your words.

Are you trying to say something here?

Or are you just posting pictures showing buggy software implementations of SRGB curve scaling for no reason?
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: sokarul on October 29, 2020, 06:39:32 AM
Here is Rahu  8)

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201028_104801759.jpg?w=768)


https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/16436/is-this-picture-of-a-digital-camera-being-oversaturated-by-bright-light-source-i



Itís been discussed many times. The act of trying to capture the bright sun cases the black spot. Itís not actually there.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: markjo on October 29, 2020, 06:54:52 AM
Here is Rahu  8)
Is it just a coincidence that Rahu is exactly where the moon is predicted to be?
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 29, 2020, 08:28:38 PM
Here is Rahu  8)

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201028_104801759.jpg?w=768)


https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/16436/is-this-picture-of-a-digital-camera-being-oversaturated-by-bright-light-source-i



Use your words.

Are you trying to say something here?

Or are you just posting pictures showing buggy software implementations of SRGB curve scaling for no reason?

The black dot is real. It spins. So this is not related to technical issue about technology of the camera. The camera is okay. It just has a setting that is suitable for capturing the black dot.
Either the straight view and the reflection view in the water, both views are captured by the camera in the same manners i.e. the black dot is visible,
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 29, 2020, 08:46:38 PM
Here is Rahu  8)

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201028_104801759.jpg?w=768)


https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/16436/is-this-picture-of-a-digital-camera-being-oversaturated-by-bright-light-source-i



Itís been discussed many times. The act of trying to capture the bright sun cases the black spot. Itís not actually there.

For the camera, why facing the sun and facing the water give the same manner of views?
That means the black dot is real, coz in normal shot (at the water) which has no technical issue, gives the same result like the view facing the sun.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 29, 2020, 08:54:02 PM
Here is Rahu  8)
Is it just a coincidence that Rahu is exactly where the moon is predicted to be?

There is cycle for the Rahu to orbit so that it intersects the sun's path for certain times/dates. Rahu's intersection times to the sun's path at month's beginning (and the middle month's times for moon's path) are predictable by maths.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Stash on October 29, 2020, 10:15:57 PM
Here is Rahu  8)
Is it just a coincidence that Rahu is exactly where the moon is predicted to be?

There is cycle for the Rahu to orbit so that it intersects the sun's path for certain times/dates. Rahu's intersection times to the sun's path at month's beginning (and the middle month's times for moon's path) are predictable by maths.

Where is it right now?
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: sokarul on October 30, 2020, 05:23:45 AM
Here is Rahu  8)

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201028_104801759.jpg?w=768)


https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/16436/is-this-picture-of-a-digital-camera-being-oversaturated-by-bright-light-source-i



Use your words.

Are you trying to say something here?

Or are you just posting pictures showing buggy software implementations of SRGB curve scaling for no reason?

The black dot is real. It spins. So this is not related to technical issue about technology of the camera. The camera is okay. It just has a setting that is suitable for capturing the black dot.
Either the straight view and the reflection view in the water, both views are captured by the camera in the same manners i.e. the black dot is visible,
no itís not.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: markjo on October 30, 2020, 09:23:50 AM
Here is Rahu  8)
Is it just a coincidence that Rahu is exactly where the moon is predicted to be?

There is cycle for the Rahu to orbit so that it intersects the sun's path for certain times/dates. Rahu's intersection times to the sun's path at month's beginning (and the middle month's times for moon's path) are predictable by maths.
Would you care to show us the maths for the predictions?  By chance, do those maths resemble the maths for the Saros cycle?
https://www.math.ualberta.ca/pi/issue5/page17-19.pdf
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: JJA on October 30, 2020, 02:42:55 PM
Here is Rahu  8)

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201028_104801759.jpg?w=768)


https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/16436/is-this-picture-of-a-digital-camera-being-oversaturated-by-bright-light-source-i



Use your words.

Are you trying to say something here?

Or are you just posting pictures showing buggy software implementations of SRGB curve scaling for no reason?

The black dot is real. It spins. So this is not related to technical issue about technology of the camera. The camera is okay. It just has a setting that is suitable for capturing the black dot.
Either the straight view and the reflection view in the water, both views are captured by the camera in the same manners i.e. the black dot is visible,

It's real. It spins. Is this the entirety of your evidence, you just saying things?

You not understanding how camera works is only proof of your ignorance, not some mysterious object you imagine to exist.

There is a link right there that explains what's going on with the image sensor and software. I've taken pictures of the sun, of lunar eclipses, of the Venus transit.  I've looked at the sun directly with filters, at eclipses.  In all of that I have never seen a black shape, and such an image isn't possible due to the glare of the sun.  That, is a faulty image processing algorithm at work.

Take a few thousand pictures of the sun from locations all over the world in various situations all showing your black object and THEN you can try and present your case.  But you can't take pictures like that, because there is no black object.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 30, 2020, 03:37:35 PM
Here is Rahu  8)
Is it just a coincidence that Rahu is exactly where the moon is predicted to be?

There is cycle for the Rahu to orbit so that it intersects the sun's path for certain times/dates. Rahu's intersection times to the sun's path at month's beginning (and the middle month's times for moon's path) are predictable by maths.
Would you care to show us the maths for the predictions?  By chance, do those maths resemble the maths for the Saros cycle?
https://www.math.ualberta.ca/pi/issue5/page17-19.pdf

The ancient Babylon calculation called Saros cycle is the root of modern eclipse calculation while HC model has nothing to do with actual eclipses. If HC was true, in every half month there would be eclipse AND the umbra pattern is horizontally AKA relatively in the same latitude.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 30, 2020, 03:45:20 PM
Here is Rahu  8)
Is it just a coincidence that Rahu is exactly where the moon is predicted to be?

There is cycle for the Rahu to orbit so that it intersects the sun's path for certain times/dates. Rahu's intersection times to the sun's path at month's beginning (and the middle month's times for moon's path) are predictable by maths.

Where is it right now?

Let me phone the Rahu pilot first. ;D
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 30, 2020, 03:46:44 PM
Here is Rahu  8)

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201028_104801759.jpg?w=768)


https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/16436/is-this-picture-of-a-digital-camera-being-oversaturated-by-bright-light-source-i



Use your words.

Are you trying to say something here?

Or are you just posting pictures showing buggy software implementations of SRGB curve scaling for no reason?

The black dot is real. It spins. So this is not related to technical issue about technology of the camera. The camera is okay. It just has a setting that is suitable for capturing the black dot.
Either the straight view and the reflection view in the water, both views are captured by the camera in the same manners i.e. the black dot is visible,
no itís not.

Yes, it is  ;D
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: markjo on October 30, 2020, 03:54:25 PM
If HC was true, in every half month there would be eclipse AND the umbra pattern is horizontally AKA relatively in the same latitude.
Only if the earth's axis of rotation and moon's orbital plane were all aligned to the ecliptic.  They are not.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 30, 2020, 03:57:26 PM
Here is Rahu  8)

(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/polish_20201028_104801759.jpg?w=768)


https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/16436/is-this-picture-of-a-digital-camera-being-oversaturated-by-bright-light-source-i



Use your words.

Are you trying to say something here?

Or are you just posting pictures showing buggy software implementations of SRGB curve scaling for no reason?

The black dot is real. It spins. So this is not related to technical issue about technology of the camera. The camera is okay. It just has a setting that is suitable for capturing the black dot.
Either the straight view and the reflection view in the water, both views are captured by the camera in the same manners i.e. the black dot is visible,

It's real. It spins. Is this the entirety of your evidence, you just saying things?

You not understanding how camera works is only proof of your ignorance, not some mysterious object you imagine to exist.

There is a link right there that explains what's going on with the image sensor and software. I've taken pictures of the sun, of lunar eclipses, of the Venus transit.  I've looked at the sun directly with filters, at eclipses.  In all of that I have never seen a black shape, and such an image isn't possible due to the glare of the sun.  That, is a faulty image processing algorithm at work.

Take a few thousand pictures of the sun from locations all over the world in various situations all showing your black object and THEN you can try and present your case.  But you can't take pictures like that, because there is no black object.

View pointing at the sun reflection on water has nothing to do with the sun glare. The different camera setting matters.
If your camera setting by default covers the black dot,you will never see the black dot.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on October 30, 2020, 04:21:44 PM
Which part of the camera resembling such a spinning black dot?

Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 30, 2020, 08:51:42 PM
Which part of the camera resembling such a spinning black dot?



Murder Wasps !
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: JJA on November 01, 2020, 02:38:27 PM
View pointing at the sun reflection on water has nothing to do with the sun glare. The different camera setting matters.
If your camera setting by default covers the black dot,you will never see the black dot.

Light reflecting off a surface doesn't cause glare?  How do you imagine that works?

Go stare at the Sun's reflection in a mirror and come report back how well that worked.  :)

Care to explain what 'camera settings' are used to capture the black sun?  Be specific now.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on November 02, 2020, 07:06:41 PM
View pointing at the sun reflection on water has nothing to do with the sun glare. The different camera setting matters.
If your camera setting by default covers the black dot,you will never see the black dot.

Light reflecting off a surface doesn't cause glare?  How do you imagine that works?

Go stare at the Sun's reflection in a mirror and come report back how well that worked.  :)

Care to explain what 'camera settings' are used to capture the black sun?  Be specific now.

Setting is not only by software, but also by hardware so as to make the glare be minimized and this condition will result the visibility of the sun's light generator AKA blackdot which is a solid spinning body within the sun transparent shell.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: sokarul on November 02, 2020, 07:07:56 PM
No. Pictures with a proper solar filter do not show an object.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on November 02, 2020, 07:10:53 PM
Which part of the camera resembling such a spinning black dot?



Murder Wasps !

If you're a flatearther, you're safe.
What about for roundearthers? Survey says: they're also safe. 😇
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on November 02, 2020, 07:13:08 PM
No. Pictures with a proper solar filter do not show an object.

Then what part of the camera resembling that spinning body?
None. It comes from the sun itself.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: sokarul on November 02, 2020, 07:15:50 PM
Itís a false image. I doesnít have to resemble a part of a camera.

Why do no pictures which use a solar filter show an object?
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: JJA on November 03, 2020, 07:15:41 AM
View pointing at the sun reflection on water has nothing to do with the sun glare. The different camera setting matters.
If your camera setting by default covers the black dot,you will never see the black dot.

Light reflecting off a surface doesn't cause glare?  How do you imagine that works?

Go stare at the Sun's reflection in a mirror and come report back how well that worked.  :)

Care to explain what 'camera settings' are used to capture the black sun?  Be specific now.

Setting is not only by software, but also by hardware so as to make the glare be minimized and this condition will result the visibility of the sun's light generator AKA blackdot which is a solid spinning body within the sun transparent shell.

I have taken hundreds of pictures of the sun with the proper settings and filters and have never seen a 'blackdot' like you insist is there.

Hang on a moment, I'll take one right now...

(https://i.imgur.com/mOgvQhW.png)

A little cloudy so not a perfect shot but as you can see, no black sun.  We do have a nice little sunspot today on the edge. 

Here is a much better picture of the Sun today taken by NASA.  Shows the sunspot much better than the little smudge in my quick picture.  (Click both images to enlarge)

(https://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/browse/2020/11/03/20201103_150127_1024_1600.jpg)

So unless you can explain how you or I can take some pictures of your 'black sun' object I'm afraid all the actual evidence shows it to not exist. 

You still have not explained what camera settings in specific to use, and what filters. I've got everything needed to take solar pictures, so just go ahead and explain.
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Shifter on November 03, 2020, 07:50:41 AM
View pointing at the sun reflection on water has nothing to do with the sun glare. The different camera setting matters.
If your camera setting by default covers the black dot,you will never see the black dot.

Light reflecting off a surface doesn't cause glare?  How do you imagine that works?

Go stare at the Sun's reflection in a mirror and come report back how well that worked.  :)

Care to explain what 'camera settings' are used to capture the black sun?  Be specific now.

Setting is not only by software, but also by hardware so as to make the glare be minimized and this condition will result the visibility of the sun's light generator AKA blackdot which is a solid spinning body within the sun transparent shell.

I have taken hundreds of pictures of the sun with the proper settings and filters and have never seen a 'blackdot' like you insist is there.

Hang on a moment, I'll take one right now...

(https://i.imgur.com/mOgvQhW.png)

A little cloudy so not a perfect shot but as you can see, no black sun.  We do have a nice little sunspot today on the edge. 

Here is a much better picture of the Sun today taken by NASA.  Shows the sunspot much better than the little smudge in my quick picture.  (Click both images to enlarge)

(https://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/browse/2020/11/03/20201103_150127_1024_1600.jpg)

So unless you can explain how you or I can take some pictures of your 'black sun' object I'm afraid all the actual evidence shows it to not exist. 

You still have not explained what camera settings in specific to use, and what filters. I've got everything needed to take solar pictures, so just go ahead and explain.

The suns color is determined by 'black body radiation'. Perhaps it is a simple misunderstanding?  8)
Title: Re: Solar Sistem Finished?
Post by: Danang on November 05, 2020, 03:51:22 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consultative_Group_on_Indonesia

:o