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Other Discussion Boards => Philosophy, Religion & Society => Topic started by: wise on February 14, 2020, 12:23:39 AM
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Istanbul, Turkey
In contrast to Turkey in the period in which the desired rise of vaccine and anti-vaccine symposium drew a large attendance fee is determined as 100 pounds response. Upon the reactions, Yeditepe University gave up allocating space for the symposium.
Yeditepe University The university administration did not allocate space for reactions to vaccine opponents, who came to the agenda with the efforts to organize a symposium. ‘I. It was revealed that the person organizing the International Vaccination Facts’ symposium was also a sound engineer and musician.
The number of vaccine opponents in Turkey is increasing day by day. Experts warn that the number of families that rejected the vaccine, which was 11,000 in 2016, is now close to 50,000. The number of measles cases, which was 662 in 2018, reached 2666 in December. While the Ministry of Health and scientists warn that those who constantly fuel anti-vaccination are not experts, they continue to mislead the public.
TV show presenter Joan Shenton, who runs campaigns on the rejection of AIDS among the speakers of the symposium, and anthropologist Mario Lamo Jimenez, known for her unscientific statements about the side effects of the HPV vaccine, and Dr. Hasan Gökhan Şentürk. Lucy Hinks’ father, Steve Hinks, who was alleged to be a victim of vaccination, said; “There is a time when it is not enough to be awake. We are called to stand up and defend the truth!” It is planned to have a talk titled.
Organized by sound engineer and musician Su Asaad (Somuncuoğlu), ‘I. It was announced that the International Vaccination Facts Symposium will be organized at Yeditepe University on Saturday, March 8. While the participation fee was determined as 100 lira, it was announced that the total participation was limited to 1200 people. However, upon the increasing reactions in social media, Yeditepe University announced that they did not approve the symposium in question and that no place would be allocated for such an event.
Su Asaad (Somuncuoğlu) declared that the symposium will be held elsewhere on his social media account, and wrote, “The symposium is not canceled. It will be held on the same date. There is only a change in place.”
https://www.mbs.news/a/2020/02/strange-organization-against-vaccination-participation-100-lira.html
I hope it will done. People have a right to learn the truth. The right of people to gather and organize cannot be prevented.
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I hope it will done. People have a right to learn the truth. The right of people to gather and organize cannot be prevented.
I fail to see how a "sound engineer and musician" would be an authority on the side effects of vaccines".
Your health department has this to say about the dangers of this anti-vaccination campaign.
The number of vaccine opponents in Turkey is increasing day by day. Experts warn that the number of families that rejected the vaccine, which was 11,000 in 2016, is now close to 50,000. The number of measles cases, which was 662 in 2018, reached 2666 in December.
Open your eyes and look at the dangers of this anti-vaccination campaign.
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Is wise pro or anti vax?
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The number of measles cases, which was 662 in 2018, reached 2666 in December.
Well done.
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The number of measles cases, which was 662 in 2018, reached 2666 in December.
Well done.
How many children dead or become autistic because of measles cases?
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The number of measles cases, which was 662 in 2018, reached 2666 in December.
Well done.
How many children dead or become autistic because of measles cases?
Alot died.
None lived to become autistic.
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The number of measles cases, which was 662 in 2018, reached 2666 in December.
Well done.
How many children dead or become autistic because of measles cases?
Before the introduction of the vaccine, measles used to kill 2.6 million people a year - mainly children. It still causes 140,000 deaths, mainly in places where the vaccine isn't available (or where idiots have stopped vaccinating children). It has saved something like 26 million lives over the years, making it one of the wonders of the modern age.
Anti-vaxxers are the worst kind of morons. A pox on humanity.
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Vaccines cause adults.
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The number of measles cases, which was 662 in 2018, reached 2666 in December.
Well done.
How many children dead or become autistic because of measles cases?
It's your country, YOU tell us!
More than 140,000 die from measles as cases surge worldwide (https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/05-12-2019-more-than-140-000-die-from-measles-as-cases-surge-worldwide)
Infants and young children most at risk of fatal complications, health agencies warn
Worldwide more than 140,000 people died from measles in 2018, according to new estimates from the World Health Organization (WHO) and the United States Centers for Diseases Control and Prevention (CDC). These deaths occurred as measles cases surged globally, amidst devastating outbreaks in all regions.
Most deaths were among children under 5 years of age. Babies and very young children are at greatest risk from measles infections, with potential complications including pneumonia and encephalitis (a swelling of the brain), as well as lifelong disability - permanent brain damage, blindness or hearing loss.
Recently published evidence shows that contracting the measles virus can have further long-term health impacts, with the virus damaging the immune system’s memory for months or even years following infection. This ‘immune amnesia’ leaves survivors vulnerable to other potentially deadly diseases, like influenza or severe diarrhoea, by harming the body’s immune defenses.
“The fact that any child dies from a vaccine-preventable disease like measles is frankly an outrage and a collective failure to protect the world’s most vulnerable children,” said Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreysus, Director-General of the World Health Organization. “To save lives, we must ensure everyone can benefit from vaccines - which means investing in immunization and quality health care as a right for all.”
Measles is preventable through vaccination. However, vaccination rates globally have stagnated for almost a decade. WHO and UNICEF estimate that 86% of children globally received the first dose of measles vaccine through their country’s routine vaccination services in 2018, and fewer than 70% received the second recommended dose.
Worldwide, coverage with measles vaccine is not adequate to prevent outbreaks. WHO recommends that 95% vaccination coverage with two doses of measles vaccine is needed in each country and all communities to protect populations from the disease.
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The number of measles cases, which was 662 in 2018, reached 2666 in December.
Well done.
How many children dead or become autistic because of measles cases?
Alot died.
None lived to become autistic.
This is not the case in news I shared. You are adding it your own opinion without providing any evidence. Maybe nobody dead and maybe many became autistic. "Alot(many)" isn't a number that I ask.
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The number of measles cases, which was 662 in 2018, reached 2666 in December.
Well done.
How many children dead or become autistic because of measles cases?
Alot died.
None lived to become autistic.
This is not the case in news I shared. You are adding it your own opinion without providing any evidence. Maybe nobody dead and maybe many became autistic. "Alot(many)" isn't a number that I ask.
I'll trust WHO more than your news.
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The number of measles cases, which was 662 in 2018, reached 2666 in December.
Well done.
How many children dead or become autistic because of measles cases?
Alot died.
None lived to become autistic.
This is not the case in news I shared. You are adding it your own opinion without providing any evidence. Maybe nobody dead and maybe many became autistic. "Alot(many)" isn't a number that I ask.
I'll trust WHO more than your news.
But you did not share anything what WHO tells about how many children dead of measles cases in Turkey during 2018 december and how many of them became autistic. If WHO told something, I am ready to listen you.
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140,000 kids die and wise is happy.
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140,000 kids die and wise is happy.
This is two lies. There was only 2600 cases how 140,000 of 2,600 dies? You are lying both about 140,000 and about me being happy.
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140,000 is world wide. Does it really matter how many of trueness were in Turkey?
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Deaths in Turkey: 0
According to Turkey.
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Deaths in Turkey: 0
According to Turkey.
Here is Turkey, hence according to Turkey is the legal according.
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According to the death rate, 10 died in 2018 and 38 died in 2019.
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According to the death rate, 10 died in 2018 and 38 died in 2019.
The real question is just why does Wise want to condemn millions around the world to unnecessary life-long complications and death because HE ignores the science.
If it weren't for vaccination there would be millions more dead from smallpox alone.
Our World i Data: Smallpox (https://ourworldindata.org/smallpox)
Death
While an infection of the variola minor virus would lead to death with a probability of less than one percent, the case fatality rate of the variola major virus has been estimated to be around 30 percent.
The Oxford Textbook of Medicine notes symptoms of prostration (total exhaustion), toxaemia (usually poisoned by bacterial toxins) and hypotension (low blood pressure) but the exact biological mechanism causing such symptoms are unknown.
Death usually occurred 10 to 16 days after the onset of symptoms.
Lack of treatment
There was never a treatment for smallpox. Once a person was infected it was impossible to treat them; one could only helplessly let the disease run its course. It might be possible that modern antiviral drugs would now allow a treatment of the disease if the disease still existed.
Wise >:D should cease his "evilness >:D" and hatred >:D of people at large.
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According to the death rate, 10 died in 2018 and 38 died in 2019.
The real question is just why does Wise want to condemn millions around the world to unnecessary life-long complications and death because HE ignores the science.
If it weren't for vaccination there would be millions more dead from smallpox alone.
Our World i Data: Smallpox (https://ourworldindata.org/smallpox)
Death
While an infection of the variola minor virus would lead to death with a probability of less than one percent, the case fatality rate of the variola major virus has been estimated to be around 30 percent.
The Oxford Textbook of Medicine notes symptoms of prostration (total exhaustion), toxaemia (usually poisoned by bacterial toxins) and hypotension (low blood pressure) but the exact biological mechanism causing such symptoms are unknown.
Death usually occurred 10 to 16 days after the onset of symptoms.
Lack of treatment
There was never a treatment for smallpox. Once a person was infected it was impossible to treat them; one could only helplessly let the disease run its course. It might be possible that modern antiviral drugs would now allow a treatment of the disease if the disease still existed.
Wise >:D should cease his "evilness >:D" and hatred >:D of people at large.
It’s a mix of ignorance towards science and racism towards the west and “white” countries.
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140,000 kids die and wise is happy.
Oh no, he'd be happier if we went back before the vaccine was invented and it killed millions of children every year.
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140,000 kids die and wise is happy.
Oh no, he'd be happier if we went back before the vaccine was invented and it killed millions of children every year.
This is same sokarul, just a bit later:
According to the death rate, 10 died in 2018 and 38 died in 2019.
I do not see any threatening, and you?
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What are you trying to get at? It’s ok to say what you mean.
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Maybe I figured out his confusion.
140,000 is how many kids died.
10 and 38 is an estimate for how many died in Turkey.
Millions is an estimate of how many kids would die if the vaccine was never invented.
Hope this clears your confusion.
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Will more or less than 140,000 kids die of measles in a year if the vaccine was banned today?
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There isn't an acceptable evidence these children die without vaccination. Your repeating same BS does not mean anything.
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It’s a simple question. Do vaccines save lives?
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It’s a simple question. Do vaccines save lives?
They take lives, they make people sick. But it is just a baseless claim them saving lifes.
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It’s a simple question. Do vaccines save lives?
They take lives, they make people sick. But it is just a baseless claim them saving lifes.
Idiot.
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It’s a simple question. Do vaccines save lives?
They take lives, they make people sick. But it is just a baseless claim them saving lifes.
When someone dismisses the massive volume of evidence that vaccines prevent illnesses like measels, small pox, and polio: there is no point in arguing further. They are lost. Not even God could convince them.
Just let them die, believing they are right.
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It’s a simple question. Do vaccines save lives?
They take lives, they make people sick. But it is just a baseless claim them saving lifes.
When someone dismisses the massive volume of evidence that vaccines prevent illnesses like measels, small pox, and polio: there is no point in arguing further. They are lost. Not even God could convince them.
Just let them die, believing they are right.
I will live longer than you will.
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It’s a simple question. Do vaccines save lives?
They take lives, they make people sick. But it is just a baseless claim them saving lifes.
When someone dismisses the massive volume of evidence that vaccines prevent illnesses like measels, small pox, and polio: there is no point in arguing further. They are lost. Not even God could convince them.
Just let them die, believing they are right.
I will live longer than you will.
1. How do you know?
2. Why should I care?
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It’s a simple question. Do vaccines save lives?
They take lives, they make people sick. But it is just a baseless claim them saving lifes.
When someone dismisses the massive volume of evidence that vaccines prevent illnesses like measels, small pox, and polio: there is no point in arguing further. They are lost. Not even God could convince them.
Just let them die, believing they are right.
I will live longer than you will.
1. How do you know?
2. Why should I care?
Ask yourself. You told "Just let them die" when adressed me. You meant my thoughts let me live shorter. But I claim I live longer than you. How did you knew it I knew it similar way.
because you are who is volunteer to get poisons free, and accept every kind of shit as a food. Exactly I will live longer than you naturally. You do not have to care, and I will not care when you die. I informed and corrected your mistake, not care.
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It’s a simple question. Do vaccines save lives?
They take lives, they make people sick. But it is just a baseless claim them saving lifes.
When someone dismisses the massive volume of evidence that vaccines prevent illnesses like measels, small pox, and polio: there is no point in arguing further. They are lost. Not even God could convince them.
Just let them die, believing they are right.
I will live longer than you will.
Are you oracle?
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It’s a simple question. Do vaccines save lives?
They take lives, they make people sick. But it is just a baseless claim them saving lifes.
When someone dismisses the massive volume of evidence that vaccines prevent illnesses like measels, small pox, and polio: there is no point in arguing further. They are lost. Not even God could convince them.
Just let them die, believing they are right.
I will live longer than you will.
Are you oracle?
are he or you oracle?
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Why did you not start your sentence with a capital letter?
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It’s a simple question. Do vaccines save lives?
They take lives, they make people sick. But it is just a baseless claim them saving lifes.
When someone dismisses the massive volume of evidence that vaccines prevent illnesses like measels, small pox, and polio: there is no point in arguing further. They are lost. Not even God could convince them.
Just let them die, believing they are right.
I will live longer than you will.
1. How do you know?
2. Why should I care?
Ask yourself. You told "Just let them die" when adressed me. You meant my thoughts let me live shorter. But I claim I live longer than you. How did you knew it I knew it similar way.
because you are who is volunteer to get poisons free, and accept every kind of shit as a food. Exactly I will live longer than you naturally. You do not have to care, and I will not care when you die. I informed and corrected your mistake, not care.
Were you vaccinated, I wonder? Probably.
And you are not God. He knows my diet, not you.
Also, average life span in Turkey is 75. Norway is 82. Why do you think? Maybe it is you who eats shit, splattered in your food?
But no, I say not you to die shorter but to not think of you more. You are no worth. You die if I give smallpox, I do not. Will you let yourself be exposed? Eat and drink for you will die and god will show you your errors.
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Also, average life span in Turkey is 75. Norway is 82. Why do you think?
Norway average salary $10.000/m, Turkey $500/m. I guess their meals more healty, organic, but ours a bit chemicalled, get it?
I guess you think it related with whether vaccinated or not.
The most autistic Nation is New Jersey, but in Africa it is less. Why do you think it happen?
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Better diagnosis.
Less doctors and less autism knowledge in Africa.
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Also, average life span in Turkey is 75. Norway is 82. Why do you think?
Norway average salary $10.000/m, Turkey $500/m. I guess their meals more healty, organic, but ours a bit chemicalled, get it?
I guess you think it related with whether vaccinated or not.
The most autistic Nation is New Jersey, but in Africa it is less. Why do you think it happen?
New Jersey is not a nation. Maybe your school is poor? You are given poor information. You do not even know countries.
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When someone dismisses the massive volume of evidence that vaccines prevent illnesses like measels, small pox, and polio: there is no point in arguing further.
You're talking about a guy who thinks the Earth is FLAT, for crissake! You think evidence matters to him?
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Also, average life span in Turkey is 75. Norway is 82. Why do you think?
Norway average salary $10.000/m, Turkey $500/m. I guess their meals more healty, organic, but ours a bit chemicalled, get it?
I guess you think it related with whether vaccinated or not.
The most autistic Nation is New Jersey, but in Africa it is less. Why do you think it happen?
New Jersey is not a nation. Maybe your school is poor? You are given poor information. You do not even know countries.
I am living in a place distant to New Jersey more than 5.000 miles. Even so, I know New Jersey is both a state and a city meanwhile. Google verified I know it true.
It's not my fault that New Jersey City is more famous than New Jersey State and you don't know it.
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Better diagnosis.
Less doctors and less autism knowledge in Africa.
haha! But when you start counting cases of measles, number of doctor suddenly becomes enough those were insufficient to count number of autism in Africa!
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Also, average life span in Turkey is 75. Norway is 82. Why do you think?
Norway average salary $10.000/m, Turkey $500/m. I guess their meals more healty, organic, but ours a bit chemicalled, get it?
I guess you think it related with whether vaccinated or not.
The most autistic Nation is New Jersey, but in Africa it is less. Why do you think it happen?
New Jersey is not a nation. Maybe your school is poor? You are given poor information. You do not even know countries.
I am living in a place distant to New Jersey more than 5.000 miles. Even so, I know New Jersey is both a state and a city meanwhile. Google verified I know it true.
Your previous post proves you did not.
Also, New Jersey City is not a place. It is "Jersey City". You need to learn to google better.
It's not my fault that New Jersey City is more famous than New Jersey State and you don't know it.
You, who live in Turkey, proclaim to know more about New Jersey than I, who lived 30 years in New York? Your arrogance betrays you.
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Also, average life span in Turkey is 75. Norway is 82. Why do you think?
Norway average salary $10.000/m, Turkey $500/m. I guess their meals more healty, organic, but ours a bit chemicalled, get it?
I guess you think it related with whether vaccinated or not.
The most autistic Nation is New Jersey, but in Africa it is less. Why do you think it happen?
New Jersey is not a nation. Maybe your school is poor? You are given poor information. You do not even know countries.
I am living in a place distant to New Jersey more than 5.000 miles. Even so, I know New Jersey is both a state and a city meanwhile. Google verified I know it true.
Your previous post proves you did not.
Also, New Jersey City is not a place. It is "Jersey City". You need to learn to google better.
It's not my fault that New Jersey City is more famous than New Jersey State and you don't know it.
You, who live in Turkey, proclaim to know more about New Jersey than I, who lived 30 years in New York? Your arrogance betrays you.
It may be "Jersey City" but there isn't another "New Jersey City" but a "Jersey island" belongs to UK, hence , so that, calling Jersey City as "New Jersey City" is not wrong, and better than the other one.
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Better diagnosis.
Less doctors and less autism knowledge in Africa.
haha! But when you start counting cases of measles, number of doctor suddenly becomes enough those were insufficient to count number of autism in Africa!
There is a lot of Autism in Africa.
But, autism does not kill you, so you dont go to the clinic or a doctor if you have an autistic cousin or child.
But Africa is large and diverse, so depending on where you are in Africa, your autistic child could just be someone that runs wildly around the village, or gets stoned for being a demon child, or gets the best treatment in the world.
But its Africa,so its probably the first 2.
If you have measles, you def go to the clinic because you are now sick.
VERY few people in Africa consider mental disorders something that you take someone to hospitals or clinics for.
South African Department of Heath is trying its ass off to get people to recognize depression as something that can be treated. Its considered a "white person" disease. Meanwhile our suicide rate is higher than ever.
After people start recognizing depression as a real thing, maybe they will move on to test for "White person" diseases such as Autism.
And South Africa is a head of the curve here. Lots of governments dont really consider mental disorders worth even pursuing.
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It may be "Jersey City" but there isn't another "New Jersey City" but a "Jersey island" belongs to UK, hence , so that, calling Jersey City as "New Jersey City" is not wrong, and better than the other one.
Wise is ignoring me, but someone might tell him:
Yes, it is wrong to call a city by a name that is not its name. You are the only person in the entire world who calls Jersey City "New Jersey City." But of course, your style of argumentation is to double down when you're shown to be wrong and insist against all logic, evidence, and reason, that you are right. In this case, you were informed that the city is called Jersey City, and rather than apologizing for an understandable mistake, given where you live, you insist that the people of that city have been calling it by the wrong name for as long as it has existed.
Since he's ignoring me, I hereby give permission for anybody who might want to, to post the above paragraph under their own name without attribution.
Of course, he may be doing this on purpose as a hint to the fact that he's not at all who he appears to be: He's a jokester who doesn't actually believe any of the things he posts here.
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Better diagnosis.
Less doctors and less autism knowledge in Africa.
haha! But when you start counting cases of measles, number of doctor suddenly becomes enough those were insufficient to count number of autism in Africa!
There is a lot of Autism in Africa.
But, autism does not kill you, so you dont go to the clinic or a doctor if you have an autistic cousin or child.
But Africa is large and diverse, so depending on where you are in Africa, your autistic child could just be someone that runs wildly around the village, or gets stoned for being a demon child, or gets the best treatment in the world.
But its Africa,so its probably the first 2.
If you have measles, you def go to the clinic because you are now sick.
VERY few people in Africa consider mental disorders something that you take someone to hospitals or clinics for.
South African Department of Heath is trying its ass off to get people to recognize depression as something that can be treated. Its considered a "white person" disease. Meanwhile our suicide rate is higher than ever.
After people start recognizing depression as a real thing, maybe they will move on to test for "White person" diseases such as Autism.
And South Africa is a head of the curve here. Lots of governments dont really consider mental disorders worth even pursuing.
Autism is a bad thing something compareable to be dead. The fact that the African nations are not aware of what it is does not show that it is not a bad thing.
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Autism is a bad thing something compareable to be dead. The fact that the African nations are not aware of what it is does not show that it is not a bad thing.
Autism is terrible. Or at least it can range from Terrible to very bad. But there is no good Autism, its all bad.
Unfortunately, most of Africa is still very religious and superstitious. What you consider basic knowledge is rocket science in some places here.
Here is a fun story as an example. Real story from a nurse.
When condoms where being distributed in villages, they got people to train the men how to use them. Which involved showing how to open the packets and roll the condoms over something like a broom stick. Yeah know, for obvious reasons.
So when a nurse asked a women who just gave birth to her nth child, she asked why she was not using the condoms. She said that they did, but it did not work. After further inspection, they found that they literally rolled the condoms over a broom stick in the room before they went at it.
So dont let anyone tell you there is no Autism in Africa, there is, I have seen lots of it. Its just completely under reported.