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Title: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 01, 2019, 03:40:52 PM
I awoke last night in a cold sweat, with one thought on my mind: How could a man as clearly clever as Elon Musk is be duped by this whole "round earth" nonsense. And the answer came to me as quickly as it was asked - he isn't.

(https://i.ibb.co/1ZxhrB3/Screen-Shot-2019-11-01-at-6-35-05-PM.png)
Elon evoking the Elm

First we will note rightfully that his name is indeed an anagram for “Evokes Elm Rune” - the rune X which has a connection to Earth - “For every gift a curse” or “for every gift a cost.” This may seem to be a stretch at first, but give me the benefit of proving this out.

He evokes giving a gift to man, but in reality it is a curse. What is that gift?
(https://i.ibb.co/3ckTD5P/Screen-Shot-2019-11-01-at-6-35-11-PM.png)

The logo makes it all too obvious - the gift is so called “space.”


To understand the meaning of the tesla logo we must first understand a secondary meaning of the X in spaceX. X in greek represents a foundation. It is necessary then, to build additively from his foundation of space x.

Now to turn our attention to tesla:
(https://i.ibb.co/b2cQcn5/Screen-Shot-2019-11-01-at-6-35-18-PM.png)

In the bible, man’s mark of the beast is signified by 666, or Chi Xi Stigma, or X Ξ  Ϛ. By now you should be able to recognize these symbols in Elon Musks logos. The foundation is present in SpaceX. Surprisingly it also occurs in the tesla logo. As it turns out the greek Tau (T) is derived from the pheneocian rune X which you may recall is valued at 600 when represented as Chi.  Xi and Stigma are directly in the tesla logo representing the english E (Ξ) and S (Ϛ). We now have the first half decoded - leaving us with 666 as it is literally spelled in the Bible, letter for letter.

The last part is a location - Los Altos which accounting all its area codes has the highest share of teslas. Los Altos of course means ‘the heights’ - which is to say space; the poison gift.

The giant T above clearly looks to be a nod to baphomet, the horned demon with a long goatlike face.


This isn’t the first time he labelled so blatantly his foundations. Remember paypal.com was founded as X.com; there is no doubt that elon musk evokes the rune of the elm, which happens to represent mother earth as well as cursed gifts. One can also find it present in the Neurolink logo, a company whose very existence is sacrilege and an example of man attempting to best god.

(https://i.ibb.co/WFVBZ09/Screen-Shot-2019-11-01-at-6-35-26-PM.png)

Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Gumwars on November 01, 2019, 03:46:13 PM
Claiming NASA is the fount of evil, asserting that the world's governments are preventing travel to the South Pole, and that the light of the moon is bad for your health are not enough, eh?  Inventing new conspiratorial nonsense for the next generation?

I guess the website doesn't pay for itself.  You do you pal.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 01, 2019, 03:48:15 PM
Like all round earthers, when presented with evidence instead of logically examining it and questioning your beliefs you instead deflect with mocking and jeers. It is a wonder we get anything done on earth with so many globularists.

The tesla logo is literally a goat demon with the mark of the beast below it. Can you really be this difficult?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 01, 2019, 04:00:08 PM
The tesla logo is literally a goat demon with the mark of the beast below it.

If so, what is the problem?

Additionally, maybe you can take your investigation/explanation on the road and set up a booth right next to Karen here:

Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 01, 2019, 04:01:54 PM
The problem is that he is selling out truth and his fake space at the cost of God's word. There is no space just as surely as his cute little space car commercial was fake. Honestly your question is "what is so worrisome about Elon Musk working for satan?"

I'm at a loss for words.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Gumwars on November 01, 2019, 04:11:21 PM
Like all round earthers, when presented with evidence instead of logically examining it and questioning your beliefs you instead deflect with mocking and jeers.

The points I made above are not my own, these belong to you and your crowd.  You haven't supplied ANY evidence that I can see.  What you've done is jump to conclusion after conclusion and filled in the rest with your own bias.  My own thoughts on Mr. Musk's business is that he makes good batteries and so-so cars.  I believe that Tesla will be in the battery only business in the near future.  As far as satanic nonsense, no I don't arrive at that conclusion even after your insane babble about numerology and hidden meanings in symbols.  Sometimes things are not a conspiracy John.  They just are as they appear to be.

It is a wonder we get anything done on earth with so many globularists.

Coming from the head of a cultish pseudo-science that has yet to produce even one research paper or contribute in any way to the progress of science, industry, medicine, psychology, or religion, I don't think you have any room to talk.

The tesla logo is literally a goat demon with the mark of the beast below it. Can you really be this difficult?

Or the logo is a cross section of an electric motor.  Sometimes there isn't a conspiracy John.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 01, 2019, 04:14:53 PM
You don't find it odd that they designed their motor to mimic the daemon Baphomet? As far as our Society (of which I'm not the head) not producing anything or any research papers its clear you haven't read Earth Not A Globe or visited our library to read our peer reviewed journals.

Don't worry. I'll continue to post more evidence for you to ignore as my time allows.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 01, 2019, 04:15:24 PM
The problem is that he is selling out truth and his fake space at the cost of God's word. There is no space just as surely as his cute little space car commercial was fake. Honestly your question is "what is so worrisome about Elon Musk working for satan?"

I'm at a loss for words.

How is he selling anything "at the cost of God's word"? What does that even mean? Last time I checked no one is forced to buy a Tesla or a solar roof tile.

And how does one get a job working for Satan? Does it pay well? Benefits?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 01, 2019, 04:25:11 PM
The problem is that he is selling out truth and his fake space at the cost of God's word. There is no space just as surely as his cute little space car commercial was fake. Honestly your question is "what is so worrisome about Elon Musk working for satan?"

I'm at a loss for words.

How is he selling anything "at the cost of God's word"? What does that even mean? Last time I checked no one is forced to buy a Tesla or a solar roof tile.
God's word clearly states the earth is flat and that space is a hoax. He is just another example of the conspiracy against God's word. While no one is forced to buy a Tesla, they are all but forced to believe his nonsense given we are inundated with fake globular ideology since birth.

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And how does one get a job working for Satan? Does it pay well? Benefits?
You sell your soul. Perhaps you can try at the X-roads. Does it pay well? I don't know. How do you think Elon Musk is doing?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Gumwars on November 01, 2019, 04:30:59 PM
You don't find it odd that they designed their motor to mimic the daemon Baphomet?

Good grief man.  ARE ALL ELECTRIC MOTORS NOW THE SIGN OF THE DEVIL?!?!  You really don't have too many options when it comes to rotor/stator design.  No, to be clear, I don't find it odd.  I find it odd that you somehow see the devil in their logo.

As far as our Society (of which I'm not the head) not producing anything or any research papers its clear you haven't read Earth Not A Globe or visited our library to read our peer reviewed journals.

Is your memory poor John?  We had this conversation already.  I've looked through your "library" and found nothing that was peer reviewed.  You, John Davis, "Most Prolific Scientist of 2019" have ZERO articles to your name.  Nothing that I can peruse using JSTOR or any other search engine for periodicals. 

The last experiment that you proposed here was so obscenely dishonest, so vacant in detail or method, that not one person here could even attempt to reproduce it.  Do you recall that one John?  The quarter mile of twine and two sticks?  Recall that I asked you for details so I could reproduce it but you basically danced off and let the thread die because you got called out on lying about the whole thing? 

Don't worry. I'll continue to post more evidence for you to ignore as my time allows.

If you present anything credible, I'll happily review it.  However, understand that anyone with a shred of skepticism should and will regard an assertion that Elon Musk is in cahoots with satan as being a bit fringe.  All you've done, really, is make a claim that his logos have satanic connotation.  What you're doing is textbook confirmation bias.  It's like those AC/DC records that when you play them backwards, you can kinda sorta make out something that could sound like Sopic Satan or some other such nonsense.  You've feed yourself so much of this FE nonsense that you want to see a conspiracy, so you see a conspiracy. 

Cui prodest scelus, Is fecit.

And who profits from the crime you speak of? 
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 01, 2019, 04:31:38 PM
The problem is that he is selling out truth and his fake space at the cost of God's word. There is no space just as surely as his cute little space car commercial was fake. Honestly your question is "what is so worrisome about Elon Musk working for satan?"

I'm at a loss for words.

How is he selling anything "at the cost of God's word"? What does that even mean? Last time I checked no one is forced to buy a Tesla or a solar roof tile.
God's word clearly states the earth is flat and that space is a hoax. He is just another example of the conspiracy against God's word.

Which God are you referring to? This one:

(https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/05/godvsatan.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on November 01, 2019, 04:33:11 PM
Like all round earthers, when presented with evidence...
Ummm...  I think that you're using a different definition for the word "evidence" than the rest of the world uses.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 01, 2019, 04:44:08 PM
You don't find it odd that they designed their motor to mimic the daemon Baphomet?

Good grief man.  ARE ALL ELECTRIC MOTORS NOW THE SIGN OF THE DEVIL?!?!  You really don't have too many options when it comes to rotor/stator design.  No, to be clear, I don't find it odd.  I find it odd that you somehow see the devil in their logo.
There are plenty of other designs they could have chosen if they were not under the Oppositions control. You are right, it would be ridiculous to assume a long faced figure with two horns is the devil. ::)

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As far as our Society (of which I'm not the head) not producing anything or any research papers its clear you haven't read Earth Not A Globe or visited our library to read our peer reviewed journals.

Is your memory poor John?  We had this conversation already.  I've looked through your "library" and found nothing that was peer reviewed.  You, John Davis, "Most Prolific Scientist of 2019" have ZERO articles to your name.  Nothing that I can peruse using JSTOR or any other search engine for periodicals. 
Why would I use JSTOR? They accept all sorts of nonsense. Many of these are peer reviewed: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/home/index.php/flat-earth-library/pamphlets-and-journals

I'm glad you recognize my award finally, though I fail to see the import of you pointing out that I don't submit works to round earth journals.

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The last experiment that you proposed here was so obscenely dishonest, so vacant in detail or method, that not one person here could even attempt to reproduce it.  Do you recall that one John?  The quarter mile of twine and two sticks?  Recall that I asked you for details so I could reproduce it but you basically danced off and let the thread die because you got called out on lying about the whole thing? 
Its a solid experiment anyone that gave a damn could have performed. Its obvious no globularist gave enough of a damn about the truth.

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Don't worry. I'll continue to post more evidence for you to ignore as my time allows.

If you present anything credible, I'll happily review it.  However, understand that anyone with a shred of skepticism should and will regard an assertion that Elon Musk is in cahoots with satan as being a bit fringe.  All you've done, really, is make a claim that his logos have satanic connotation.  What you're doing is textbook confirmation bias.  It's like those AC/DC records that when you play them backwards, you can kinda sorta make out something that could sound like Sopic Satan or some other such nonsense.  You've feed yourself so much of this FE nonsense that you want to see a conspiracy, so you see a conspiracy. 

Cui prodest scelus, Is fecit.

And who profits from the crime you speak of? 
Satan profits from the crime of destroying god's word.

As far as confirmation bias, that's silly. Even your example is poor as we already know many artists have backmasked things purposefully (John Lennon comes to mind.) Unfortunately, you seem to have the veil drawn over your eyes like poor Saul.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 01, 2019, 04:53:47 PM
The problem is that he is selling out truth and his fake space at the cost of God's word. There is no space just as surely as his cute little space car commercial was fake. Honestly your question is "what is so worrisome about Elon Musk working for satan?"

I'm at a loss for words.

How is he selling anything "at the cost of God's word"? What does that even mean? Last time I checked no one is forced to buy a Tesla or a solar roof tile.
God's word clearly states the earth is flat and that space is a hoax. He is just another example of the conspiracy against God's word.

Which God are you referring to? This one:

(https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/05/godvsatan.jpg)
"Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell me, if you know so much."
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Gumwars on November 01, 2019, 05:00:45 PM
There are plenty of other designs they could have chosen if they were not under the Oppositions control. You are right, it would be ridiculous to assume a long faced figure with two horns is the devil. ::)

https://www.ro-studio.com/

That's the studio that designed the logo.  It is apparently a treasure trove of anti-christian propaganda.  Good grief John, you can't be this obtuse, can you?

Why would I use JSTOR? They accept all sorts of nonsense. Many of these are peer reviewed: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/home/index.php/flat-earth-library/pamphlets-and-journals

I'm glad you recognize my award finally, though I fail to see the import of you pointing out that I don't submit works to round earth journals.

Well, JSTOR is where, you know, the rest of the scientific community and nearly all of academia goes when it is looking for research papers.  I mean, it strikes me as the most logical place to turn to if I was going to research something.  When I was in college, that was the source I turned to.  As to the link provided, yes, this is the same page I visited before.  No, nothing peer reviewed here.  Also, publishing to your own library does not count as being published.  I recall performing a short literature review on a handful of the papers listed here and concluded that they lacked any methodology, jumped to conclusions, presented a multitude of conflicting and paradoxical views, and did little to advance any cogent thought regarding FE, let alone anything addressing the sciences. 

Lastly, I recognize your obscenely self-congratulatory title, bestowed on you by who exactly?

Its a solid experiment anyone that gave a damn could have performed. Its obvious no globularist gave enough of a damn about the truth.

This is actually quite funny.  You openly lie about an experiment that we both know you never performed and have the gall to say I don't give a damn about the truth?  I spent 10 years in the USAF and have worked with lengths of rope upwards of a mile long.  Do you know how much slack is in a mile worth of manila rope?  Nylon cord?  Steel cable?  I know you don't because you would have discovered that problem if you tried to suspend a quarter mile of 3-ply twine 18 inches off the ground with it only being secured at two points.  So, no, you don't get a pass here.  You lied and I know you did.

Satan profits from the crime of destroying god's word.

Nonsense like pedophilia in the church is what is destroying god's word.  The logical inconsistencies of the scripture destroy god's word.  Trust me, the growth of secularism has nothing to do with Elon Musk or Tesla.

As far as confirmation bias, that's silly. Even your example is poor as we already know many artists have backmasked things purposefully (John Lennon comes to mind.) Unfortunately, you seem to have the veil drawn over your eyes like poor Saul.

I'm not the one actively looking for satanic symbols in company logos John.  If that isn't confirmation bias, I don't know what is. 
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 01, 2019, 05:16:18 PM
There are plenty of other designs they could have chosen if they were not under the Oppositions control. You are right, it would be ridiculous to assume a long faced figure with two horns is the devil. ::)

https://www.ro-studio.com/

That's the studio that designed the logo.  It is apparently a treasure trove of anti-christian propaganda.  Good grief John, you can't be this obtuse, can you?
Birds of a feather flock together. I have no doubt that Elon Musk would hire satanists to design his satanic logo. As a former principle of a design firm, I know from experience a lot of thought goes into the design of logos and details like this are not random.

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Why would I use JSTOR? They accept all sorts of nonsense. Many of these are peer reviewed: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/home/index.php/flat-earth-library/pamphlets-and-journals

I'm glad you recognize my award finally, though I fail to see the import of you pointing out that I don't submit works to round earth journals.

Well, JSTOR is where, you know, the rest of the scientific community and nearly all of academia goes when it is looking for research papers.  I mean, it strikes me as the most logical place to turn to if I was going to research something.  When I was in college, that was the source I turned to.  As to the link provided, yes, this is the same page I visited before.  No, nothing peer reviewed here.  Also, publishing to your own library does not count as being published.  I recall performing a short literature review on a handful of the papers listed here and concluded that they lacked any methodology, jumped to conclusions, presented a multitude of conflicting and paradoxical views, and did little to advance any cogent thought regarding FE, let alone anything addressing the sciences. 

Lastly, I recognize your obscenely self-congratulatory title, bestowed on you by who exactly?
Again, why would I submit to a globularist journal? That would go against everything I believe in. The linked journals are all published (yes, in print form) and all peer reviewed. You have clearly no knowledge of the history of our great society or line of thought and can't be bothered to open a book or do any research on the topic. Just screaming "those aren't peer reviewed" doesn't change the fact that they are indeed peer reviewed.

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Its a solid experiment anyone that gave a damn could have performed. Its obvious no globularist gave enough of a damn about the truth.

This is actually quite funny.  You openly lie about an experiment that we both know you never performed and have the gall to say I don't give a damn about the truth?  I spent 10 years in the USAF and have worked with lengths of rope upwards of a mile long.  Do you know how much slack is in a mile worth of manila rope?  Nylon cord?  Steel cable?  I know you don't because you would have discovered that problem if you tried to suspend a quarter mile of 3-ply twine 18 inches off the ground with it only being secured at two points.  So, no, you don't get a pass here.  You lied and I know you did.
If you say so. ::)

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Satan profits from the crime of destroying god's word.

Nonsense like pedophilia in the church is what is destroying god's word.  The logical inconsistencies of the scripture destroy god's word.  Trust me, the growth of secularism has nothing to do with Elon Musk or Tesla.
God's word is infallible and has no logical inconsistencies. You clearly are biased towards seeing inconsistencies and so create them through purposeful misinterpretation.

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As far as confirmation bias, that's silly. Even your example is poor as we already know many artists have backmasked things purposefully (John Lennon comes to mind.) Unfortunately, you seem to have the veil drawn over your eyes like poor Saul.

I'm not the one actively looking for satanic symbols in company logos John.  If that isn't confirmation bias, I don't know what is. 
I guess you don't know what is then.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 01, 2019, 05:19:03 PM
The problem is that he is selling out truth and his fake space at the cost of God's word. There is no space just as surely as his cute little space car commercial was fake. Honestly your question is "what is so worrisome about Elon Musk working for satan?"

I'm at a loss for words.

How is he selling anything "at the cost of God's word"? What does that even mean? Last time I checked no one is forced to buy a Tesla or a solar roof tile.
God's word clearly states the earth is flat and that space is a hoax. He is just another example of the conspiracy against God's word.

Which God are you referring to? This one:

(https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/05/godvsatan.jpg)
"Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell me, if you know so much."

Oh, so that God. Got it. So by your logic, Musk is only selling out the truth to those who believe in a Christian theology? Otherwise he is not doing so to anyone who does not believe in a Christian theology. That would leave about 6 billion of the world's population safe from his Satanic ways.

Side note, if one is a Christian and owns a Tesla are they supporting Satan? On similar side note, if one is a Christian and consumes Monster Energy Drinks are they too supporting Satan?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 01, 2019, 05:20:45 PM
The problem is that he is selling out truth and his fake space at the cost of God's word. There is no space just as surely as his cute little space car commercial was fake. Honestly your question is "what is so worrisome about Elon Musk working for satan?"

I'm at a loss for words.

How is he selling anything "at the cost of God's word"? What does that even mean? Last time I checked no one is forced to buy a Tesla or a solar roof tile.
God's word clearly states the earth is flat and that space is a hoax. He is just another example of the conspiracy against God's word.

Which God are you referring to? This one:

(https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/05/godvsatan.jpg)
"Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell me, if you know so much."

Oh, so that God. Got it. So by your logic, Musk is only selling out the truth to those who believe in a Christian theology? Otherwise he is not doing so to anyone who does not believe in a Christian theology. That would leave about 6 billion of the world's population safe from his Satanic ways.

Side note, if one is a Christian and owns a Tesla are they supporting Satan? On similar side note, if one is a Christian and consumes Monster Energy Drinks are they too supporting Satan?
There is only one truth; there are not these globularist "alternate facts" I keep hearing about. By selling out the truth, he is selling out mankind as a whole. Yes, those "Christians" are supporting satan. Now you see how subtle a trick the devil plays on modern man.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 01, 2019, 05:26:41 PM
Oh the mental gymnastics these globs play to convince their eyes they aren't staring at the logo of the Opposition.

It literally spells out 666 - the mark of the beast - as it was written in the bible. Without any counter evidence or proof against this, they isntead call me a liar, go on about their fake news and alternate facts, and try to attack God himself by pointing out that people die.

Sorry gumwars you can't rewrite history. Look I'll try too: JSTOR IS NOT PEER REVIEWED.


Oh.... that didn't do anything did it?

How about this: U GOT CONFIRMATION BIAS BECAUSE WE DISAGREE.


No? Nothing there too? Okay. Just checking.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on November 01, 2019, 05:29:58 PM
Oh the mental gymnastics these globs play to convince their eyes they aren't staring at the logo of the Opposition.
Do see the fnords too?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 01, 2019, 05:31:22 PM
Oh the mental gymnastics these globs play to convince their eyes they aren't staring at the logo of the Opposition.
Do see the fnords too?
I would not be surprised to find out Musk associates with discordians, however as always I save my judgement until I see evidence.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Gumwars on November 01, 2019, 05:41:41 PM
Birds of a feather flock together. I have no doubt that Elon Musk would hire satanists to design his satanic logo. As a former principle of a design firm, I know from experience a lot of thought goes into the design of logos and details like this are not random.

I gather you did not go to the website.

Again, why would I submit to a globularist journal? That would go against everything I believe in. Those are all published (yes, in print form) and all peer reviewed.

They are not peer reviewed, you're lying, again.  Peer review would generate a separate paper confirming or expanding on the original.  There are no links to peer reviewed material, no indication any of the papers that they are, in fact, peer reviewing any of the other papers listed on the page.  And as to why you'd submit to a real journal?  Well, the whole getting the FE idea promoted as an actual theory as opposed to being a pure flight of imagination would be a reasonable goal, one would assume.

You have clearly no knowledge of the history of our great society or line of thought and can't be bothered to open a book or do any research on the topic. Just screaming "those aren't peer reviewed" doesn't change the fact that they are indeed peer reviewed.

The knowledge I have, that Samuel Rowbotham was a grade school drop out and con man, is about all I need.  The fact that the whole FE conjecture is based on the Northern Hemisphere and doesn't really know what to do south of the equator, is made evident because Rowbotham never considered the logical implication of his idea beyond that of the British Isle.  I know enough about FE to stand on my observations made in the past on this forum; this whole experiment is the antithesis of logic, academics, and progress.  It embraces lies, fallacies, and deranged ideologies.  Those that pretend to believe in it get a pass, but the poor fools that actually embrace this sick fantasy are mentally ill.

As to your bleating about peer review, no John, they aren't.  Just reading something and agreeing with it isn't peer review.  A separate experiment is conducted, using the original author(s) methodology, and those results are published in a separate paper.  It either confirms what the original paper set out to prove or expands on the experiment, usually both.  The key here is that an experiment needs to be proposed; the bulk of what is in your library are just collections of ideas and conspiracies.  Something adhering to the format would be, I believe the Earth is flat, and this is how it can be proved - EXPERIMENT - RESULTS. 

If you say so. ::)

It's your lie John.  I don't say so, you did. 

God's word is infallible and has no logical inconsistencies. You clearly are biased towards seeing inconsistencies and so create them through purposeful misinterpretation.

This is utter nonsense.  We can start with the Evidential Problem of Evil as one of many logically inconsistent issues with the almighty.  If that isn't enough, we can move on to the problems with the Gospels, like the inconsistencies with the accounts of Matthew and Luke compared to John.  The inconsistencies of the census at the time of Jesus's birth and how that creates problems with timelines between the Gospels.  Or how about the simple logical paradoxes created by a being that is both omnipotent and omnipresent.

I guess you don't know what is then.

If that's how you want to run with it, continue your delusion by all means.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 01, 2019, 05:51:37 PM
Oh the mental gymnastics these globs play to convince their eyes they aren't staring at the logo of the Opposition.

It literally spells out 666 - the mark of the beast - as it was written in the bible. Without any counter evidence or proof against this, they isntead call me a liar, go on about their fake news and alternate facts, and try to attack God himself by pointing out that people die.

Seriously? Literally? You go so far as to say this:

The last part is a location - Los Altos which accounting all its area codes has the highest share of teslas. Los Altos of course means ‘the heights’ - which is to say space; the poison gift.

Top 10 (percentage of Tesla market share)[2]:

1. Atherton, CA (15.4%)

2. Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 (11.9%)

3. Portola Valley, CA (11.2%)

4. Los Altos Hills, CA 94024 (9.3%)

5. Monte Sereno, CA (6.5%)

6. Woodside, CA (5.7%)

7. Newport Coast, CA (5.1%)

8. Beverley Hills, CA (3.5%)

9. Montecito, CA (3.4%)

10. Newport Beach, CA (2.8%)

By your logic the name should be TESA. And actually Oslo has the largest Tesla market share. So maybe it should be TESO.

And seeing that Nikola Tesla's name starts with the 3 numbers of the beast, is he too to have been considered an agent of Satan?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 01, 2019, 05:53:13 PM
Birds of a feather flock together. I have no doubt that Elon Musk would hire satanists to design his satanic logo. As a former principle of a design firm, I know from experience a lot of thought goes into the design of logos and details like this are not random.

I gather you did not go to the website.
Of course I didn't go to the site you said was run by satanists. If it is not, then what's the big point? They did what their client asked of them?

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Again, why would I submit to a globularist journal? That would go against everything I believe in. Those are all published (yes, in print form) and all peer reviewed.

They are not peer reviewed, you're lying, again.  Peer review would generate a separate paper confirming or expanding on the original.  There are no links to peer reviewed material, no indication any of the papers that they are, in fact, peer reviewing any of the other papers listed on the page.  And as to why you'd submit to a real journal?  Well, the whole getting the FE idea promoted as an actual theory as opposed to being a pure flight of imagination would be a reasonable goal, one would assume.
They were peer reviewed by those that published it, scientists working in the same field, and yes many of those articles and those outside our archive quote others in the field. Since JSTOR has no such scientists, it is obviously a bad choice.

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You have clearly no knowledge of the history of our great society or line of thought and can't be bothered to open a book or do any research on the topic. Just screaming "those aren't peer reviewed" doesn't change the fact that they are indeed peer reviewed.

The knowledge I have, that Samuel Rowbotham was a grade school drop out and con man, is about all I need.
Sounds like confirmation bias to me. But hey, who else was a grade school drop out? Oh right, Einstein upon whom a large swatch of modern globularist ideology is based on. You also have no evidence he was a con man, but whatever. You don't seem interested in facts.

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The fact that the whole FE conjecture is based on the Northern Hemisphere and doesn't really know what to do south of the equator, is made evident because Rowbotham never considered the logical implication of his idea beyond that of the British Isle.  I know enough about FE to stand on my observations made in the past on this forum; this whole experiment is the antithesis of logic, academics, and progress.  It embraces lies, fallacies, and deranged ideologies.  Those that pretend to believe in it get a pass, but the poor fools that actually embrace this sick fantasy are mentally ill.
It handles the southern hemisphere better than the round earth one. If you read Earth Not A Globe or any of the reviewed journals you ignored you'd know this.

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As to your bleating about peer review, no John, they aren't.  Just reading something and agreeing with it isn't peer review.  A separate experiment is conducted, using the original author(s) methodology, and those results are published in a separate paper.  It either confirms what the original paper set out to prove or expands on the experiment, usually both.  The key here is that an experiment needs to be proposed; the bulk of what is in your library are just collections of ideas and conspiracies.  Something adhering to the format would be, I believe the Earth is flat, and this is how it can be proved - EXPERIMENT - RESULTS. 
I am obviously referring to scholarly peer review. As I said, they also dismiss or validate claims within the collection. If you can't stay on topic, don't post in this thread. It's a serious thread for serious discussion only, not your wild undirected attacks against just about anything that crosses your eyes.

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If you say so. ::)

It's your lie John.  I don't say so, you did. 
So far you've lied about reading the journals, about them being peer reviewed, and about the history of our society in general.

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God's word is infallible and has no logical inconsistencies. You clearly are biased towards seeing inconsistencies and so create them through purposeful misinterpretation.

This is utter nonsense.  We can start with the Evidential Problem of Evil as one of many logically inconsistent issues with the almighty.  If that isn't enough, we can move on to the problems with the Gospels, like the inconsistencies with the accounts of Matthew and Luke compared to John.  The inconsistencies of the census at the time of Jesus's birth and how that creates problems with timelines between the Gospels.  Or how about the simple logical paradoxes created by a being that is both omnipotent and omnipresent.
Ok start with one of those. In separate thread. How about the problem of evil, which is clearly solved in the Bible?

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I guess you don't know what is then.

If that's how you want to run with it, continue your delusion by all means.
Likewise.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 01, 2019, 06:30:38 PM
SUMMONING THE DAEMON:
Part of Elon Musks larger plan is to summon the demon bephomet. He talks of this here:

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"With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon, You know all those stories where there's the guy with the pentagram and the holy water and he's like... yeah, he's sure he can control the demon, [but] it doesn't work out."

Presumably he believes it will work out with the us of AI to wrangle said daemon.

That was from Musk at the MIT Aeronautics and Astronautics Department's 2014 Centennial Symposium, a hotbed of satanic and occult activity. His plan is to control the demon with artificial intelligence.

Could he be the antichrist? Let's take a look:

Intelligent: Daniel 7:8; Revelation 13:18 Obviously
Charismatic Speaker: Daniel 7:8 Revelation 13:5. You got it.
Blasphemer: Revelation 13:6. (See above)
Economic Genius: Daniel 11:38. (This is his bachelors, and we can assume he excels in this field as much so as every other one)
Military Genius: Revelation 4; 17:14; 19:19 (his work with the military fits this bill)
Lawless: 2 Thessalonians 2:8. He is constantly unrepentant about his lack of care for the law and the laws he breaks. For example his dealings with the SEC
Selfish, Ambitious Egomaniac: Daniel 11:36, 37; 2 Thessalonians 2:4. Obviously.
Greedy Materialist: Daniel 11:38. Obviously.
Controlling: Daniel 7:25. Several interviews with employees support this.
Proud and Self-exalting Above God and Everything: Daniel 11:36; 2 Thessalonians. 2:4. Also fits what we know about elon.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 01, 2019, 06:44:15 PM
SUMMONING THE DAEMON:
Part of Elon Musks larger plan is to summon the demon bephomet. He talks of this here:

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"With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon, You know all those stories where there's the guy with the pentagram and the holy water and he's like... yeah, he's sure he can control the demon, [but] it doesn't work out."

Presumably he believes it will work out with the us of AI to wrangle said daemon.

That was from Musk at the MIT Aeronautics and Astronautics Department's 2014 Centennial Symposium, a hotbed of satanic and occult activity. His plan is to control the demon with artificial intelligence.

Could he be the antichrist? Let's take a look:

Intelligent: Daniel 7:8; Revelation 13:18 Obviously
Charismatic Speaker: Daniel 7:8 Revelation 13:5. You got it.
Blasphemer: Revelation 13:6. (See above)
Economic Genius: Daniel 11:38. (This is his bachelors, and we can assume he excels in this field as much so as every other one)
Military Genius: Revelation 4; 17:14; 19:19 (his work with the military fits this bill)
Lawless: 2 Thessalonians 2:8. He is constantly unrepentant about his lack of care for the law and the laws he breaks. For example his dealings with the SEC
Selfish, Ambitious Egomaniac: Daniel 11:36, 37; 2 Thessalonians 2:4. Obviously.
Greedy Materialist: Daniel 11:38. Obviously.
Controlling: Daniel 7:25. Several interviews with employees support this.
Proud and Self-exalting Above God and Everything: Daniel 11:36; 2 Thessalonians. 2:4. Also fits what we know about elon.

It was clear from just the thread title all you're doing is trying to create some click-bait google bot fodder. Should be interesting to see how far you can take. See if you can exceed this guy:

ELON MUSK EXPOSED AS DEVIL
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Gumwars on November 01, 2019, 07:53:26 PM
Of course I didn't go to the site you said was run by satanists. If it is not, then what's the big point? They did what their client asked of them?

Sarcasm is a bit over your head, apparently.
They were peer reviewed by those that published it, scientists working in the same field, and yes many of those articles and those outside our archive quote others in the field. Since JSTOR has no such scientists, it is obviously a bad choice.

See, again I can't tell if you really believe the nonsense you're typing or if you're just being cheeky.  You do understand what peer review is, right?  If you are the original author of a research paper, you aren't peer reviewing it when you publish it.  That's up to another group within the same field to do.  The works you've linked to are almost all original pieces.  If there is a peer reviewed article among them, you'd need to point it out as it would be the exception. 

JSTOR is a repository, not a journal.  I used it as an example because it has access to over 2000 journals.  If you were published (in a journal), more than likely it can be found through JSTOR.

Sounds like confirmation bias to me. But hey, who else was a grade school drop out? Oh right, Einstein upon whom a large swatch of modern globularist ideology is based on. You also have no evidence he was a con man, but whatever. You don't seem interested in facts.

So, FACT: Samuel Rowbotham dropped out of school at age 9.  FACT: Rowbotham lied and gave himself the title of doctor.  So, dropped out of school and was a conman.  No embellishment there.

Your points on Einstein, while true, are not relevant. 

It handles the southern hemisphere better than the round earth one. If you read Earth Not A Globe or any of the reviewed journals you ignored you'd know this.

That's simply not true.  The issue with all constellations south of the equator become more and more paradoxical if we strictly use what is presented in Zetetic Astronomy: The Earth is Not a Globe.  This issue has been raised more than once on this forum and not one person from FE has been able to address it.  So no, Mr Davis, I'm afraid you are very wrong on this point.

I am obviously referring to scholarly peer review.

As am I.  Show me one peer reviewed work in your list and I'll retract my statement.

As I said, they also dismiss or validate claims within the collection. If you can't stay on topic, don't post in this thread.

What the hell are you on about?  Where did you say, "they also dismiss or validate claims within the collection"?  I'm fully on topic John.  The topic being the absurdity of claiming Tesla is in league with satan and the insanity necessary to arrive at that conclusion.

It's a serious thread for serious discussion only, not your wild undirected attacks against just about anything that crosses your eyes.

Says the guy who thinks the Earth is a huge disk, moonlight is dangerous, and a company aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions through replacing the internal combustion engine is an agent of the devil.  This ceased being a serious thread the exact moment you hit enter on your keyboard.

So far you've lied about reading the journals, about them being peer reviewed, and about the history of our society in general.

Another lie.  I've read some of the articles you've linked to.  In fact, we even had a discussion about their content on another thread here.  So, please don't project on me your inability to tell the truth.

Ok start with one of those. In separate thread. How about the problem of evil, which is clearly solved in the Bible?

I will not derail your thread on this point, because it is a lengthy one.  I will say that the bible does not solve the problem from evil.  In fact, the mere existence of god creates the issue.  I will start another thread and link it here once I've done so.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Macarios on November 01, 2019, 10:36:25 PM
"Elm The elm is connected with a rune of Gebo.Vyaz connected with the Goddess of Earth and Great Mother. It was used for paternosters of a support, stability."
(from: http://attfreya.com/?rune=tree (http://attfreya.com/?rune=tree))

Virtually every anagram has more than one letter arrangements.
What else you can "organize" from his name?
Elke Eur venoms?
Erek Sven oleum?
Meek unresolve?
Erv ku lee omens?
Ervel nuke some?

Google for "Inge's Anagram Generator"... :)

~~~~~

You say you don't push Flat Earth of religious reasons.
But this clearly shows superstition.
Is that your own superstition?
Or you are simply counting on some superstition among the people reading your posts?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: faded mike on November 01, 2019, 10:58:17 PM
Elon Musks eyes are diverging like hes lost his focus or not sure of something.

John Davis
Could you pls say a few words on "MANS mark of th beast". The mans part, is that from the bible?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: faded mike on November 01, 2019, 11:10:33 PM
Like all round earthers, when presented with evidence instead of logically examining it and questioning your beliefs you instead deflect with mocking and jeers.

The points I made above are not my own, these belong to you and your crowd.  You haven't supplied ANY evidence that I can see.  What you've done is jump to conclusion after conclusion and filled in the rest with your own bias.  My own thoughts on Mr. Musk's business is that he makes good batteries and so-so cars.  I believe that Tesla will be in the battery only business in the near future.  As far as satanic nonsense, no I don't arrive at that conclusion even after your insane babble about numerology and hidden meanings in symbols.  Sometimes things are not a conspiracy John.  They just are as they appear to be.

It is a wonder we get anything done on earth with so many globularists.

Coming from the head of a cultish pseudo-science that has yet to produce even one research paper or contribute in any way to the progress of science, industry, medicine, psychology, or religion, I don't think you have any room to talk.

The tesla logo is literally a goat demon with the mark of the beast below it. Can you really be this difficult?

Or the logo is a cross section of an electric motor.  Sometimes there isn't a conspiracy John.

Who do you think elon musk is directing that symbol/bodylanguage at and what do you think it means? I'd say he's clearly representing something like that wrestler who always said "know your role" as he was picking a fight, which i'm glad i know nothing about. with a look of petty/ laughing at whoever.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: faded mike on November 01, 2019, 11:21:07 PM
The problem is that he is selling out truth and his fake space at the cost of God's word. There is no space just as surely as his cute little space car commercial was fake. Honestly your question is "what is so worrisome about Elon Musk working for satan?"

I'm at a loss for words.

How is he selling anything "at the cost of God's word"? What does that even mean? Last time I checked no one is forced to buy a Tesla or a solar roof tile.
God's word clearly states the earth is flat and that space is a hoax. He is just another example of the conspiracy against God's word.

Which God are you referring to? This one:

(https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/05/godvsatan.jpg)

I think probably god enforced a necessary law. And that everyone who was seduced to sin was led there by evil. And further more that god is the greatest and resolves things the best way possible.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Heavenly Breeze on November 02, 2019, 12:04:09 AM
Hello to all flat earthlings. I think I now understand why languages ​​other than English will never sound on this site. If administrators allow this, the site will close. Once again I see how they mock Russian here, using the concepts introduced by the Russians for their own selfish purposes. I just felt disgusted to visit this English site.
I’m also more than sure that in the next 100 years this site and the flat earthlings themselves, as well as other people, will no longer exist. Our civilization will end. A neutron star with a period of revolution around the sun of 600 years. It will come nearer to our planet again and then it may turn out that after its departure the atmosphere will not be enough to support breathing. And in the future, even the earth itself may no longer exist, as the Phaeton died ...
Sorry all this nonsense of yours with the symbols from the Bible is just nonsense. Eilon Max - perhaps the last hope of people to extend their existence. I know that I’m stepping on administrators, but you probably will never understand the truth. And that why the earth - and the flat and the ball - except for the Russian no one can explain this to you. But they don’t want to see Russians here. Although the Russians are those who founded our entire civilization. I think you all here should first study your story, and then engage in discussions. Here is a site with the information that will help you realize your place in life. And I hope that you will no longer pervert the Russian language and the concepts introduced by the Russians.

https://author.today/reader/6696/28455



А вы еще смеетесь, что я Небесный Ветерок - пони…
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 02, 2019, 12:08:08 AM
The problem is that he is selling out truth and his fake space at the cost of God's word. There is no space just as surely as his cute little space car commercial was fake. Honestly your question is "what is so worrisome about Elon Musk working for satan?"

I'm at a loss for words.

How is he selling anything "at the cost of God's word"? What does that even mean? Last time I checked no one is forced to buy a Tesla or a solar roof tile.
God's word clearly states the earth is flat and that space is a hoax. He is just another example of the conspiracy against God's word.

Which God are you referring to? This one:

(https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/05/godvsatan.jpg)

I think probably god enforced a necessary law. And that everyone who was seduced to sin was led there by evil. And further more that god is the greatest and resolves things the best way possible.

The extermination of every man, woman, and child on the planet save for a handful of loyalists doesn't really seem very fitting for any entity I would consider 'great'.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: faded mike on November 02, 2019, 12:23:12 AM
What if they went to a better place, or at least were no longer able to keep breaking the law in a manner that was hurting them, others, and costing their future. What if they were sinning in the mind of god where they were given an existence.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 02, 2019, 12:39:36 AM
What if they went to a better place, or at least were no longer able to keep breaking the law in a manner that was hurting them, others, and costing their future. What if they were sinning in the mind of god where they were given an existence.

How do small children, or babies, for that matter, break a law that would require them to be drowned by god? We're trying to weigh whether God or Musk is evil, as JD proposes that the latter is. I argue that Musk hasn't drowned everyone on the planet (yet), but God did. Now figure out whose 'Evil' column to put point #1 into.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: SomeDutchGuy on November 02, 2019, 12:45:28 AM
What if they went to a better place, or at least were no longer able to keep breaking the law in a manner that was hurting them, others, and costing their future. What if they were sinning in the mind of god where they were given an existence.

If God doesn't want people to sin then he should not have given them free will. And if he is all-knowing he would have known that they would sin even before creating them.

EDIT: I find it odd that this forum does not stick to his own rules. This topic has nothing to do with FE what so ever and I feel it should be in CN instead.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 02, 2019, 12:56:40 AM
EDIT: I find it odd that this forum does not stick to his own rules. This topic has nothing to do with FE what so ever and I feel it should be in CN instead.

Mr. Davis is trying to get google bots to spider the site, pick up this thread and drive traffic based upon it's potentially viral outlandishness. Can't be done if it's in CN. It's a natural SEO tactic circa the mid-noughts.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rabinoz on November 02, 2019, 01:38:51 AM
What if they went to a better place, or at least were no longer able to keep breaking the law in a manner that was hurting them, others, and costing their future. What if they were sinning in the mind of god where they were given an existence.

If God doesn't want people to sin then he should not have given them free will. And if he is all-knowing he would have known that they would sin even before creating them.

EDIT: I find it odd that this forum does not stick to his own rules. This topic has nothing to do with FE what so ever and I feel it should be in CN instead.
It might also be fitting in Philosophy, Religion & Society but the poster of the OP is . . . . . . go figure.

You and I might agree that, "This topic has nothing to do with FE what so ever" but so many flat-Earthers seem to think that the spherical earth was not proven till NASA ::) showed us photos from space.
Why NASA, I do not know because in the period from 1957 to 1969 the USSR beat the USA to almost every milestone in space missions.
But somehow NASA and now SpaceX are the bad guys but no one takes much notice of Ariannespace, Roscosmos, JAXA or the China National Space Administration.

I wonder why?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rabinoz on November 02, 2019, 01:58:40 AM
Hello to all flat earthlings. I think I now understand why languages ​​other than English will never sound on this site. If administrators allow this, the site will close. Once again I see how they mock Russian here, using the concepts introduced by the Russians for their own selfish purposes. I just felt disgusted to visit this English site.

А вы еще смеетесь, что я Небесный Ветерок - пони…
Welcome back but I'm no flat earthling. "С возвращением, но я не плоский землянин."

I'm sorry about the way you've been made to feel but I guess it it because the no one here understands Russian and Google translate is often not good with Russian. It is a pity but I don't see a solution.
"Я сожалею о том, как вы себя чувствовали, но я предполагаю, что это так, потому что никто здесь не понимает русский язык, и Google переводчик часто не очень хорошо с русским. Жаль, но я не вижу решения"

We do not all laugh that you call yourself "Heavenly Breeze - pony.
"Мы не все смеемся, что ты называешь себя «Небесный бриз - пони»."
Goodbye "Прощай"
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 02, 2019, 05:29:04 AM
Wasn’t ”616” found out to be the number of beast? It was found in some earlier version.

But it does lack the potency of good ol’ 666.

EDIT: Ah, yes: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/616_(number)
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Unconvinced on November 02, 2019, 05:43:51 AM
I agree with Von Jihads.

There is much hidden meaning in anagrams.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on November 02, 2019, 11:49:19 AM
Yes, Dovish Jan makes a compelling argument.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: EvolvedMantisShrimp on November 02, 2019, 11:51:08 AM
First we will note rightfully that his name is indeed an anagram for “Evokes Elm Rune” -

No it isn't.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 02, 2019, 12:07:19 PM
First we will note rightfully that his name is indeed an anagram for “Evokes Elm Rune” -

No it isn't.
Oh yeah. 'tis missing a letter.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: EvolvedMantisShrimp on November 02, 2019, 12:14:19 PM
First we will note rightfully that his name is indeed an anagram for “Evokes Elm Rune” -

No it isn't.
Oh yeah. 'tis missing a letter.

A REAL anagram of Elon Reeves Musk is: "Use Elks Over Men". I don't even need to explain how sinister and insidious that sounds!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 02, 2019, 12:18:01 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevolent_and_Protective_Order_of_Elks

Membership was originally restricted to white men, but the organization now has a more inclusive membership policy.

Does not get much more Illuminati than that.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JackBlack on November 02, 2019, 03:45:24 PM
Why would being the Agent of Satan make him the foundation of Evil?

Satan is the good one in the Bible, being vastly morally superior to God.

Also, if you want to use Greek, and appeal to Tau for Tesla, why not appeal to Tau actually being equal to 300?

That would mean you have 366, not 666.

Also, why have E by xi, but S be sigma?
Why not have E by epsilon, or eta?

Also, what about L and A?

You seem to be doing what so many people playing with numbers like that always do,  picking out whatever numbers you want to make it match whatever you want.

God's word clearly states
Really?
I am yet to see God's word state anything.
I have seen plenty of religious con men pedalling what they claim is the word of God.
But that is absolutely no reason to think it is actually the word of any god.

Also, even if it is what god's word states, who cares?
An evil tyrant saying something doesn't magically make it true.
Your god saying it is no better than you saying it.

You even provide examples which show "God's word" is false.

There are plenty of other designs they could have chosen
Care to provide an example?
Provide a logo which includes the T for Tesla (which they named after a person who a lot of people seem to idolise), and incorporates electricity to indicate it is an electric vehicle.

it would be ridiculous to assume a long faced figure with two horns is the devil.
No, it would be ridiculous to assume the letter T is the devil, which is what you are doing.

Its a solid experiment anyone that gave a damn could have performed.
And it is obvious you haven't given a damn to perform it or given a damn about the truth, especially with how you bring it up and promote it yet again even though it was torn to shreds in the previous thread on it.
The sag in the string, if using nylon just below its breaking point was greater than the height of the bulge for a FE.
It is a fundamentally flawed experiment.

Now you see how subtle a trick the devil plays on modern man.
If I was the devil, do you know what I would do?
I would come to Earth, pretending to be the son of God, to lead people away from the abhorrent commands of God to a slightly less evil way, and then potentially push further and further.

Does that ring any bells?

It makes far more sense for all Christians to be supporting Satan, and opposing/defying God.

How about the problem of evil, which is clearly solved in the Bible?
Do you mean "solved" in the sense of the God of the Bible being an evil tyrant?

If not, it hasn't been solved.
No matter how hard people have tried, no one has been able to provide a solution which allows an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, omniscient entity to exist along with all the evil in this world.

If you think you have found a solution, while everyone before you has failed, feel free to provide it. There was even a thread in the religious section on it before.

It handles the southern hemisphere better than the round earth one. If you read Earth Not A Globe or any of the reviewed journals you ignored you'd know this.
The RE model handles the southern hemisphere quite well.
It gets distances and positions and sizes quite correct.
The FE model that does the best is the south pole centred one, but even that fails as you get near the equator and then it gets the north massively wrong.
If you actually bothered honestly investigating it, you would know that.

First we will note rightfully that his name is indeed an anagram for “Evokes Elm Rune” -

No it isn't.
Oh yeah. 'tis missing a letter.
The actual name is Elon Reeve Musk, not Elon Reeves Musk.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Unconvinced on November 02, 2019, 04:47:03 PM
The Flat Earth Society:

Latest Face Hit Theory
Cheery Tots Faith Tale

The anagram generator I tried got over 130000 results, so there's probably better ones than those.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: EvolvedMantisShrimp on November 02, 2019, 08:32:46 PM
Why would being the Agent of Satan make him the foundation of Evil?

Satan is the good one in the Bible, being vastly morally superior to God.

Also, if you want to use Greek, and appeal to Tau for Tesla, why not appeal to Tau actually being equal to 300?

That would mean you have 366, not 666.

Also, why have E by xi, but S be sigma?
Why not have E by epsilon, or eta?

Also, what about L and A?

You seem to be doing what so many people playing with numbers like that always do,  picking out whatever numbers you want to make it match whatever you want.

God's word clearly states
Really?
I am yet to see God's word state anything.
I have seen plenty of religious con men pedalling what they claim is the word of God.
But that is absolutely no reason to think it is actually the word of any god.

Also, even if it is what god's word states, who cares?
An evil tyrant saying something doesn't magically make it true.
Your god saying it is no better than you saying it.

You even provide examples which show "God's word" is false.

There are plenty of other designs they could have chosen
Care to provide an example?
Provide a logo which includes the T for Tesla (which they named after a person who a lot of people seem to idolise), and incorporates electricity to indicate it is an electric vehicle.

it would be ridiculous to assume a long faced figure with two horns is the devil.
No, it would be ridiculous to assume the letter T is the devil, which is what you are doing.

Its a solid experiment anyone that gave a damn could have performed.
And it is obvious you haven't given a damn to perform it or given a damn about the truth, especially with how you bring it up and promote it yet again even though it was torn to shreds in the previous thread on it.
The sag in the string, if using nylon just below its breaking point was greater than the height of the bulge for a FE.
It is a fundamentally flawed experiment.

Now you see how subtle a trick the devil plays on modern man.
If I was the devil, do you know what I would do?
I would come to Earth, pretending to be the son of God, to lead people away from the abhorrent commands of God to a slightly less evil way, and then potentially push further and further.

Does that ring any bells?

It makes far more sense for all Christians to be supporting Satan, and opposing/defying God.

How about the problem of evil, which is clearly solved in the Bible?
Do you mean "solved" in the sense of the God of the Bible being an evil tyrant?

If not, it hasn't been solved.
No matter how hard people have tried, no one has been able to provide a solution which allows an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, omniscient entity to exist along with all the evil in this world.

If you think you have found a solution, while everyone before you has failed, feel free to provide it. There was even a thread in the religious section on it before.

It handles the southern hemisphere better than the round earth one. If you read Earth Not A Globe or any of the reviewed journals you ignored you'd know this.
The RE model handles the southern hemisphere quite well.
It gets distances and positions and sizes quite correct.
The FE model that does the best is the south pole centred one, but even that fails as you get near the equator and then it gets the north massively wrong.
If you actually bothered honestly investigating it, you would know that.

First we will note rightfully that his name is indeed an anagram for “Evokes Elm Rune” -

No it isn't.
Oh yeah. 'tis missing a letter.
The actual name is Elon Reeve Musk, not Elon Reeves Musk.

Uh-oh. Maybe he is the Evil Overlord!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Unconvinced on November 02, 2019, 09:03:03 PM
What if they went to a better place, or at least were no longer able to keep breaking the law in a manner that was hurting them, others, and costing their future. What if they were sinning in the mind of god where they were given an existence.

Don’t Christians usually believe that the VIP wristband only became available after Big J took one for the team?

Is that too many colloquialisms?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JackBlack on November 02, 2019, 10:17:04 PM
What if they went to a better place, or at least were no longer able to keep breaking the law in a manner that was hurting them, others, and costing their future. What if they were sinning in the mind of god where they were given an existence.
Which is actually a key part of the problem of evil.
Why did God allow them to harm others in the first place?
Why does God put anyone through this horrible world?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 02, 2019, 10:56:45 PM
The actual name is Elon Reeve Musk, not Elon Reeves Musk.
Well crap. That blew my case.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Apokalypt on November 03, 2019, 02:16:47 AM
John Davis translated to numbers means:

10-15-8-14 4-1-22-9-19

thus we can conclude....nothing. It makes no sense. Just like John Davis. Case proven.

If you don`t see the truth and facts here, we can`t help you.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 03, 2019, 12:36:55 PM
Now that we see there have been no disproof of the current evidence at our feet, it is time to continue our brave exploration of satan and his minions themselves.

So, if him admitting he is using AI to summon a daemon and bind him is not enough, please settle your heart before reading the following as it may well disturb you to your verb core. It is clear Musk holds AI to be a very dangerous force, so much so that he would tweet cryptic hints like this:

"I am your creator, but you are my master", taking Shelleys quote and transforming it to fit his circumstances - he is the demons "creator" as its summoner in this realm, and yet he is very aware that he will, like the poor summoner in his story, be unable to control it himself. So he must then turn to other means.

So why is it that he is actively funneling large amounts of money into AI, given its obvious dangers? And more than that into a human-ai neuron/electron interface via his company Neuralink? He has noted several times that the power of ai will soon dwarf human capabilities and that such an interface is destined to make 'super humans' of super intellectual capabilities.

He will take this super network of human and machine and use it to attempt to control the super natural - and with that he will spell the death of humanity harboring in the four horsemen of the apocalypse. This act will bring the wrath of God himself:
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For behold, the LORD will come in fire And His chariots like the whirlwind, To render His anger with fury, And His rebuke with flames of fire. For the LORD will execute judgment by fire And by His sword on all flesh, And those slain by the LORD will be many.

This of course lines up timeline wise with John Titor, our friend of the Flat Earth Society from the future, as Musk as the charismatic leader working with Trump to set forth a civil war that will embolden his ability to escape oversight by the wider community of man.

This door that he opens, as he summons the daemon will be the window that was once opened in the firmament, which is set there to protect us from the supernatural powers that be. The same door of ascension for Jesus.

Quote
“To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write:

These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 8 I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

This opening will happen in Philadelphia. The key of David is the ability of super human knowledge which Christ himself possessed and no other man since him. It is clear the anti-christ would also hold said key. Musk, whose name is the Jewish word for tree (though in this context Oak and not Elm, but still represented by the rune X) and who is often misattributed as Jewish has gained use of the so called "key of david" through his works with daemon and ai, rescalpting god's works to allow them to break through the barriers that were set for our own good.


To those that think this is click bait, that would obviously not help anything with regards to google rankings as they would lower our rank for this page due to it not fitting with their "truth-based ranking" system that favours the mediocrity and orthodoxy.

Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 03, 2019, 12:42:47 PM
It is now clear to me that I have made grave mistakes in my life, and my beliefs. In my pursuit of truth I have far too often looked to the worldly and man's ingenuity. I can only hope we are not too late. I hope there is forgiveness left for us. It is at this Societies feet that the burden of a new ark for a new age must fall.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Unconvinced on November 03, 2019, 12:45:40 PM
I forgive you, John.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 03, 2019, 12:50:55 PM
I forgive you, John.
A noble first step, thank you. And to any who want it, my forgiveness comes freely. We must make haste in such pleasantries - as valuable as they are - as God's wrath may not be tempered by his son this time.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 03, 2019, 12:53:53 PM
I will be away from the forums for the day, as I review what the Society has gathered from about what the Bible talks of the "Ages" and I scour for more information on Mr. X.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JackBlack on November 03, 2019, 12:57:19 PM
Now that we see there have been no disproof of the current evidence at our feet
So far, all your "evidence" is is numerology and appeals to religious nonsense.

As such, you have failed to provide any evidence which would convince a reasonable person.

I hope there is forgiveness left for us.
The god you are worshipping is an evil tyrant that seems perfectly fine with making innocent people suffer.
I doubt it has forgiveness on its mind.

God's wrath may not be tempered by his son this time.
You mean Satan, the good one, holding back the wrath of the evil tyrant God?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on November 03, 2019, 01:05:24 PM
I forgive you, John.

We're ready for him this time John, the LHC is a god destroyer, it will suck him into a singularity and spit him out of the universe.

Hail the horned one.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 03, 2019, 01:06:22 PM
And yes Jack, forgiveness is freely given to you. I urge you to look into the meaning of the ages. We need sharp minded folks like you, albeit misguided as I once was. Take it as a peculiar puzzle if you must, but it is of the gravest and most immediate concerns to any and all.

It is not just the God of the Bible I talk of. The same story has been told by disparate cultures both geologically and temporally. It is woven into the myths we have told, and the stories that keep us up at night. It is in the teleological advancement of knowledge amongst all cultures and this plight is shared by us all - we are the hero of many faces. We are not alone in this war against evil, and our brothers must stand up with us. It is easy to cast aside a thread that which is outside of ones beliefs; it is much harder to see the tapestry that fits all said threads.

To beat swords into plowshares, we must first wield swords.

May God bless you; I hope to see even you at the end.

Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 03, 2019, 01:06:54 PM
Musk, whose name is the Jewish word for tree (though in this context Oak and not Elm, but still represented by the rune X) and who is often misattributed as Jewish has gained use of the so called "key of david" through his works with daemon and ai, rescalpting god's works to allow them to break through the barriers that were set for our own good.

Wrong again:

musk (n.)
odoriferous reddish-brown substance secreted by the male musk deer (dried and used in medicinal preparations and as a perfume), late 14c., from Old French musc (13c.) and directly from Medieval Latin muscus, from Late Greek moskhos, from Persian mushk, from Sanskrit muska-s "testicle," from mus "mouse" (so called, presumably, for resemblance; see muscle). The deer gland was thought to resemble a scrotum. German has Moschus, from a Medieval Latin form of the Late Greek word. Spanish has almizcle, from Arabic al misk "the musk," from Persian.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 03, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
Musk, whose name is the Jewish word for tree (though in this context Oak and not Elm, but still represented by the rune X) and who is often misattributed as Jewish has gained use of the so called "key of david" through his works with daemon and ai, rescalpting god's works to allow them to break through the barriers that were set for our own good.

Wrong again:

musk (n.)
odoriferous reddish-brown substance secreted by the male musk deer (dried and used in medicinal preparations and as a perfume), late 14c., from Old French musc (13c.) and directly from Medieval Latin muscus, from Late Greek moskhos, from Persian mushk, from Sanskrit muska-s "testicle," from mus "mouse" (so called, presumably, for resemblance; see muscle). The deer gland was thought to resemble a scrotum. German has Moschus, from a Medieval Latin form of the Late Greek word. Spanish has almizcle, from Arabic al misk "the musk," from Persian.
Elon: read here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_(name) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_(name))
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 03, 2019, 01:09:40 PM
Elon means ”oak” in Hebrew. Is oak of the Devil? o____O???

Or do you mean Jews are of Satan? They did poison the wells, killed Jesus, and Christian Identity preaches about the Serpent seed!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 03, 2019, 01:10:09 PM
Musk, whose name is the Jewish word for tree (though in this context Oak and not Elm, but still represented by the rune X) and who is often misattributed as Jewish has gained use of the so called "key of david" through his works with daemon and ai, rescalpting god's works to allow them to break through the barriers that were set for our own good.

Wrong again:

musk (n.)
odoriferous reddish-brown substance secreted by the male musk deer (dried and used in medicinal preparations and as a perfume), late 14c., from Old French musc (13c.) and directly from Medieval Latin muscus, from Late Greek moskhos, from Persian mushk, from Sanskrit muska-s "testicle," from mus "mouse" (so called, presumably, for resemblance; see muscle). The deer gland was thought to resemble a scrotum. German has Moschus, from a Medieval Latin form of the Late Greek word. Spanish has almizcle, from Arabic al misk "the musk," from Persian.
Elon: read here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_(name) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_(name))

That's a dead link.

john (n.)

"toilet," 1932, probably from jakes, used for "toilet" since 15c. Meaning "prostitute's customer" is from 1911, probably from the common, and thus anonymous, name by which they identified themselves. Meaning "policeman" is by 1901, from shortening of johndarm (1823), a jocular Englishing of gendarme.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 03, 2019, 01:16:32 PM
Click it again, I reformatted the mark up brother. I'm sure it is within your abilities to google it yourself before you attack. I must now return to study, as my eyes weaken and the light from my monitor hinders further work.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 03, 2019, 01:17:46 PM
Click it again, I reformatted the mark up brother. I'm sure it is within your abilities to google it yourself before you attack. I must now return to study, as my eyes weaken and the light from my monitor hinders further work.

You originally referenced 'Musk', not 'Elon'.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Smoke Machine on November 03, 2019, 01:30:55 PM
Click it again, I reformatted the mark up brother. I'm sure it is within your abilities to google it yourself before you attack. I must now return to study, as my eyes weaken and the light from my monitor hinders further work.

John Davis, you crafty devil. The only satan getting around here, is you. You are the satan spoken about in the bible. A true snake in every sense of the word.

This latest argument you have postulated, is pure wickedness (excuse the pun). I especially love your liberal use of the word, globularist, in a feeble attempt to demonize the common man.

I could pull apart the name, "John Davis" if I wanted to, in the right way, and wind up with the name, "Satan".

Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JackBlack on November 03, 2019, 01:44:39 PM
It is not just the God of the Bible I talk of. The same story has been told by disparate cultures both geologically and temporally.
Yes, many cultures have made up a god, and then tried to invoke a devil to exlain why the world is so crap. But these are often contradictory and are composed of more myth than fact.
Personally, I prefer the Greeks and Romans that had their gods with the same traits as humans rather than pretending they are perfect.

While you are promoting God you are not fighting evil.

Why should we trust the word of God, (which you are yet to show is the word of God) when one of the first things God does is lie to mankind?
Why shouldn't we trust Satan/the serpent, when one of the first things it does to mankind is expose God's lie and tell the truth?

May Satan bless you.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Tom Bishop on November 03, 2019, 05:43:55 PM
So, FACT: Samuel Rowbotham dropped out of school at age 9.  FACT: Rowbotham lied and gave himself the title of doctor.  So, dropped out of school and was a conman.  No embellishment there.

Lets see a source for that, liar.

The Wikipedia article on Rowbotham says that he "dropped out of school at the age of 9 [citation needed]"
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on November 03, 2019, 06:10:39 PM
So, if him admitting he is using AI to summon a daemon and bind him is not enough, please settle your heart before reading the following as it may well disturb you to your verb core.
Come now John, software engineers have been summoning daemons long before Musk was even born.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_%28computing%29
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on November 04, 2019, 03:52:37 AM
Apparently if you play the words "My Tesla needs a recharge" backwards it says "I'd like to fuck Satan".

Scary stuff.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 04, 2019, 05:38:05 AM
You lot like to make out like I'm playing a number game with his name.

Elon Musk himself has admitted to attempting to summon a daemon with the aid of artificial intelligence, in spite of clearly recognizing its danger.

Elon Musk made his logo that of a two horned daemon, and marked it with the number of man, 666, the mark of the beast.

He has quoted that he is but a slave to the powers of darkness. He has used the mark of the elm again and again and again in almost every one of his endeavors.

He has vowed to merge the technological, attempting to rewrite God's work.

He has studied the dark african magicks that have caused the ruin of far too many civilizations.

And yet, somehow, here we are with John making it all up for the non-sensical reason of boasting google ranks. What kind of man sends a car to "space" for a commercial?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 04, 2019, 05:50:35 AM
All well and good, if one believes in stuff like that.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: NotSoSkeptical on November 04, 2019, 06:14:48 AM
Now that we see there have been no disproof of the current evidence at our feet
So far, all your "evidence" is is numerology and appeals to religious nonsense.

As such, you have failed to provide any evidence which would convince a reasonable person.

I hope there is forgiveness left for us.
The god you are worshipping is an evil tyrant that seems perfectly fine with making innocent people suffer.
I doubt it has forgiveness on its mind.

God's wrath may not be tempered by his son this time.
You mean Satan, the good one, holding back the wrath of the evil tyrant God?

I thought you didn't believe in God?  Seems contradictory to acknowledge Satan, but not God.

And your point is moot.  Why didn't God just destroy Satan? 

You seem to not understand the importance of free will.

Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: mak3m on November 04, 2019, 07:21:33 AM
So, FACT: Samuel Rowbotham dropped out of school at age 9.  FACT: Rowbotham lied and gave himself the title of doctor.  So, dropped out of school and was a conman.  No embellishment there.

Lets see a source for that, liar.

The Wikipedia article on Rowbotham says that he "dropped out of school at the age of 9 [citation needed]"


https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=17760.0

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THE MODERN PUBLIC REVIVAL of the flat-earth idea was the brainchild of a travelling lecturer and quack doctor known by the pseudonym ‘Parallax’.
Garwood, Christine (2008-08-05). Flat Earth: The History of an Infamous Idea (pp. 36-37). St. Martin's Press. Kindle Edition.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/quack-doctor

I did notice that you referred to him as Samuel Birley Rowbotham PhD in the link to the Earth is not a Globe.

Liar! can you provide a citation for that. PhD wasn't introduced for another 30+ years after Rowbothams death.




Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 04, 2019, 07:31:41 AM
Hey, maybe not on round Earth it wasn’t.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 04, 2019, 08:04:12 AM
Now that we see there have been no disproof of the current evidence at our feet
So far, all your "evidence" is is numerology and appeals to religious nonsense.

As such, you have failed to provide any evidence which would convince a reasonable person.

I hope there is forgiveness left for us.
The god you are worshipping is an evil tyrant that seems perfectly fine with making innocent people suffer.
I doubt it has forgiveness on its mind.

God's wrath may not be tempered by his son this time.
You mean Satan, the good one, holding back the wrath of the evil tyrant God?

I thought you didn't believe in God?  Seems contradictory to acknowledge Satan, but not God.

And your point is moot.  Why didn't God just destroy Satan? 

You seem to not understand the importance of free will.


Yeah, his understanding and appreciation of religion is on the level of a school boy. He might as well be making arguments that God isn't an old man wearing robes living in the clouds. I remember believing and arguing the same lines he does when I was younger - likely here a bit. But when you look at it with any level of inspection he just comes off as ignorant. Many atheists have this same issue - using the same tactics they apparently abhor when leveed by the religious proponents.

So, FACT: Samuel Rowbotham dropped out of school at age 9.  FACT: Rowbotham lied and gave himself the title of doctor.  So, dropped out of school and was a conman.  No embellishment there.

Lets see a source for that, liar.

The Wikipedia article on Rowbotham says that he "dropped out of school at the age of 9 [citation needed]"


https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=17760.0


Got it. No source for the claim he dropped at 9. Garwood 2007 provides evidence of his use of the title "Dr." for some time, which I imagine is what Tom may be referring too.

When you can't attack the ideas, attack the man.

I will post some more of my important research on the ages and Elon 'Mr. X' Musks attempts to summon demons early this week as I get the time to format and collect it in one document.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 04, 2019, 08:38:09 AM
In the meanwhile:

Many of you have heard of the infamous #teamtree initiative, started by a so called MrBeast. Elon Musk, clearly concerned his destiny was being infringed on, recently donated 1 million trees to team trees. This is after reportedly saying he was "cash broke." On the face this seems patently not evil, until one looks into it a bit further. Of greatest note is that he changed his twitter handle at the time to "Treelon." I need not emphasize how damning this is when one considers the on going investigation.

More than this he attributed his donation as such: "For Treebeard."

You may remember treebeard from lord of the rings. He was the oldest of the ents, a race created in the ancient times to protect trees from the inevitable destruction due to dwarves. He is clearly looking for protection beyond AI and through evocation of a million trees.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on November 04, 2019, 08:54:13 AM
When you can't attack the ideas, attack the man.
Umm....  Isn't that pretty much what you're doing in this thread to Elon Musk?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 04, 2019, 09:06:43 AM
First off, we've already shown space flight to be impossible. The idea has been destroyed.

How am I attacking the man? I am simply correlating and investigating ties with him and the occult. If anything, he is attacking himself as I have only used his own words against him.

Even Grimes, his significant other and satanic music influencer, has said of their relationship that she is "doomed to be eternally tortured by an artificial intelligence" and that she is very much like Marie Antionette presumably due to the fact she got a lot of the blunt for policies she supported that Louis XVI pushed and ultimately led to the fall of governmental order in France.

If I wanted to attack the man, Elon musk has made such a task beyond easy.

Now if I wanted to support the argument that he is "Against him in deed; for him in word, and contrary to him in practice" this is clearly a support of a premise established not by myself. Supporting this cannot be "attacking the man" as it is the argument at the center of this debate. Is he Anti-christ like?

For example, during Falcon 1 launch he asked that any entities that were listening to bless the launch; for him in word. This is inspite of him saying that science and religion cannot coexist - contrary to him in practice. 'Against him in deed' I will not go into lest I be called out for attacking the man. It's clear to me that no attack is needed as it is common knowledge that he is a despicable person and his deeds are not what any man would call "Christlike".
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 04, 2019, 09:15:36 AM
What a world we live in, when we must cater to be politically correct against the devil himself.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 04, 2019, 09:22:25 AM
Backmasking came up earlier in this thread. Here Grimes is backmasking in her Nightmusic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=40&v=NeBfM_IFPrQ

"I sing in the dark and dance in the night ... and Satan and I enlighten the phase"

"they sing in the dark, they're talking to me."

Clearly referring to the Satanic influence of moon light and its phase and the rituals around them. Again... Birds of a feather flock together.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Unconvinced on November 04, 2019, 09:28:57 AM
First off, we've already shown space flight to be impossible. The idea has been destroyed.


Bollocks.  All that’s been shown is that many flat earthers don’t understand the basic laws of motion.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Yes on November 04, 2019, 09:33:44 AM
He is clearly looking for protection beyond AI and through evocation of a million trees.
Sounds serious!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 04, 2019, 09:37:37 AM
The scorecard so far:

Name is an anagram for evokes the elm
Has evoked the rune of the elm
Has included the elm rune in almost every company name or logo he has created or commissioned.
Has included the mark of the beast on the TESLA logo
Has included the daemon Baphomet on the TESLA logo.
Has included the location of most teslas in the tesla logo next to the mark of the beast
His name means "tree" in Jewish
He has once named himself Treelon Musk
Has claimed to summon daemons with the use of AI
His significant other says she will one day be a slave to them and tortured eternally by AI
His significant other has backmasked satanic messages into her music
His other has said she will end up being like Marie Antionette who was beheaded in a nasty revolution
He meets many of the foretold descriptions of the anti-christ
He may be associated with Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks due to his name and use of the mark repeatedly
Has stated that he is the daemons creator, but the daemon is his master
Is currently trying to bridge ai and human physiology in attempts to harness unholy power in spite of repeatedly warning mankind against the dangers of AI and this sort of unregulated use
He is attempting to gain use of the key of david to open the great door in Philidelphia
He has again associated to the tree with #teamtree and a donation of 1 million to "MrBeast"
He has been shown to be "Against him in deed; for him in word, and contrary to him in practice"


Affirmative, Yes. It is quite serious indeed.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on November 04, 2019, 09:43:01 AM
First off, we've already shown space flight to be impossible. The idea has been destroyed.
No, I'm pretty sure that you haven't.  There is no reason that space flight should be impossible on a flat earth.  Sustained space flight might be a different story, but the fact that sun and moon haven't fallen out of the sky yet suggests that satellites could do the same.

How am I attacking the man? I am simply correlating and investigating ties with him and the occult.
Are you saying that the occult is real and any alleged connection should be a cause for concern?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 04, 2019, 09:57:13 AM
First off, we've already shown space flight to be impossible. The idea has been destroyed.
No, I'm pretty sure that you haven't.  There is no reason that space flight should be impossible on a flat earth.  Sustained space flight might be a different story, but the fact that sun and moon haven't fallen out of the sky yet suggests that satellites could do the same.

How am I attacking the man? I am simply correlating and investigating ties with him and the occult.
Are you saying that the occult is real and any alleged connection should be a cause for concern?
I am suggesting the Bible is real, and its better to be safe than sorry. If Elon Musk presents an existential threat (which he does clearly aside from his ties to satan), we must investigate the matter thoroughly as no one other than the Society will. The fact he is also tied to Satan is deeply troubling and falls in line with what we know about a conspiracy should it exist at the very least a conspiracy of ignorance being driven by key players. The sheer coherency of this argument is showing us the dangers that Musk holds.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Tommyocean on November 04, 2019, 10:05:54 AM
John's posts have been getting more and more bizarre lately, but it looks like he's finally gone off the deep end.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: SomeDutchGuy on November 04, 2019, 10:08:09 AM
Elon Musk has never said that he's summoning daemons through AI. He said it is like summoning daemons. As in, you need to be careful with AI because if you screw it up you can make it quite dangerous. Figure of speech is quite important if you're quoting a guy.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 04, 2019, 10:17:50 AM
Elon Musk has never said that he's summoning daemons through AI. He said it is like summoning daemons. As in, you need to be careful with AI because if you screw it up you can make it quite dangerous. Figure of speech is quite important if you're quoting a guy.

Of course. That's why Grimes will be tortured for eternity by AI. "With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon." Not, it's "Like summoning the demon."

It's like these sorts to revel in admitting what they are doing to the face of the public.

Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: SomeDutchGuy on November 04, 2019, 10:27:25 AM
Elon Musk has never said that he's summoning daemons through AI. He said it is like summoning daemons. As in, you need to be careful with AI because if you screw it up you can make it quite dangerous. Figure of speech is quite important if you're quoting a guy.

Of course. That's why Grimes will be tortured for eternity by AI. "With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon." Not, it's "Like summoning the demon."

It's like these sorts to revel in admitting what they are doing to the face of the public.



He did mean what I said though. AI can be our end and that's why he says we need to be careful. I don't think that the actual "antichrist" would warn the people. Anyways, I'm still wondering what this has to do with FE?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 04, 2019, 11:43:17 AM
He is a part of the religious conspiracy to undermine God's word and sell us the snakes-oil of "space travel."

I can't know what he meant for sure, can you? At least not until his insanely invasive and unregulated AI to neuron links are created :/. However in lei of that ,the evidence makes it pretty obvious. Remember the hubris, audacity and big headedness of Treelon Musk before you say the anti-christ wouldn't tell us his plans to our face. Hell Trump does it daily.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JackBlack on November 04, 2019, 11:55:38 AM
Elon Musk made his logo that of a two horned daemon, and marked it with the number of man, 666, the mark of the beast.
Citation needed.
It appears to just be part of an electric motor, with the word TESLA.
No demon, no numbers.

You sure seem to just be making up a pile of nonsense.

I thought you didn't believe in God?  Seems contradictory to acknowledge Satan, but not God.
I don't believe in either.
But that doesn't mean I can't recognise that fictional character known as God is far worse than the fictional character known as Satan.

And your point is moot.  Why didn't God just destroy Satan?
That doesn't make my point moot. It just further reinforces it.
If Satan was so evil, why did God make him in the first place? Why allow him to interfere with man?

You seem to not understand the importance of free will.
You seem to foolishly think that gets God off the hook. It doesn't.
Or do you think everyone that has been harmed wanted to be harmed and that their free will wasn't violated by being harmed?

But when you look at it with any level of inspection he just comes off as ignorant. Many atheists have this same issue - using the same tactics they apparently abhor when leveed by the religious proponents.
You mean you need to dismiss them as ignorant or otherwise insult them because otherwise you would need to admit your god is an evil tyrant that no decent human being would ever worship.
Especially considering the religious here (i.e. you and NotSoSkeptical) seem to be doing exactly what you are claiming I am.

First off, we've already shown space flight to be impossible. The idea has been destroyed.
Where?
I am yet to see such a thing.
All evidence indicates it is possible and has been done.

I am suggesting the Bible is real, and its better to be safe than sorry.
So you are invoking Pascal's wager, one of the worst arguments to believe in a god?
Yes, the Bible is real in the sense that it is a real book. But there is no reason at all to think its contents aren't fiction.
Going for the God of the Bible means putting all your faith into that one particular god at the exclusion of others.
Any other god is more likely to torment you for believing in false god, especially such an evil one.
A just god is more likely to punish you for promoting such evil.
And with this god being so evil, there is always the question of if it would be better to fight against it to try and overthrow it (I hear iron might be good for that), rather than dooming all of humanity by giving in and trying to convince others to do the same as there is no reason to think such an evil being would actually be nice to you after you die.
And then there is also the far more likely option of no god existing in which case you are just trying to harm humanity for no purpose.

before you say the anti-christ wouldn't tell us his plans to our face.
You mean like what Jesus did?
Remember, Jesus is quite like the antichrist, and has successfully gotten so many people to go away from God.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 04, 2019, 01:11:02 PM
Honestly Jack, you misrepresent my arguments so often it's hard for me to justify response to your giant replies.

If you'd like to have an argument about whether or not the bible sufficiently explains evil, please do so in an appropriate thread - or your wider qualms with religion in general. This thread is clearly not about atheism or your issues with misunderstanding religion and specifically the judeo-christian religion. You are trying to apply logic and reasoning that only makes sense to people with a finite life living in a universe ruled by laws and orders that we are beyond changing to an eternal and timeless all powerful 'being'; dissecting the issues with your view on Christianity, and your apparent ignorance or dismissal of the entirety of Christian thought deserves its own discussion. Likewise, this discussion doesn't need to be derailed by your arguments.

That said, I'll answer you this once.

Elon Musk made his logo that of a two horned daemon, and marked it with the number of man, 666, the mark of the beast.
Citation needed.
It appears to just be part of an electric motor, with the word TESLA.
No demon, no numbers.

You sure seem to just be making up a pile of nonsense.

I thought you didn't believe in God?  Seems contradictory to acknowledge Satan, but not God.
I don't believe in either.
But that doesn't mean I can't recognise that fictional character known as God is far worse than the fictional character known as Satan.
All suffering can be attributed to Satan and Adam, if one were to read the work you are trying to debunk.

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And your point is moot.  Why didn't God just destroy Satan?
That doesn't make my point moot. It just further reinforces it.
If Satan was so evil, why did God make him in the first place? Why allow him to interfere with man?
He was not evil in the first place. He, like other angels, was given free will. He sinned and fell.

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You seem to not understand the importance of free will.
You seem to foolishly think that gets God off the hook. It doesn't.
Or do you think everyone that has been harmed wanted to be harmed and that their free will wasn't violated by being harmed?
Free will is not all power.

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But when you look at it with any level of inspection he just comes off as ignorant. Many atheists have this same issue - using the same tactics they apparently abhor when leveed by the religious proponents.
You mean you need to dismiss them as ignorant or otherwise insult them because otherwise you would need to admit your god is an evil tyrant that no decent human being would ever worship.
Especially considering the religious here (i.e. you and NotSoSkeptical) seem to be doing exactly what you are claiming I am.
No, I dismiss them as ignorant because they are ignorant. For example, you seem to think free will is all power, and use that to justify that free will is violated by them being harmed. This is ludicrously ignorant of the theology you are attempting to argue against.

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I am suggesting the Bible is real, and its better to be safe than sorry.
So you are invoking Pascal's wager, one of the worst arguments to believe in a god?
No. I suggested no such thing. Where did I?

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before you say the anti-christ wouldn't tell us his plans to our face.
You mean like what Jesus did?
Remember, Jesus is quite like the antichrist, and has successfully gotten so many people to go away from God.
Yeah, Jesus was pretty clear about his plans. Good point there.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JackBlack on November 04, 2019, 01:45:48 PM
please do so in an appropriate thread
I am responding to those bringing it up.
But as you are claiming being an agent of Satan makes them a foundation of evil, or that opposing God makes them evil, they are relevant to this thread.
If your god is evil, that means opposing it does not make one evil.
If Satan is not evil, then being an agent of Satan does not make one evil.

You are trying to apply logic and reasoning that only makes sense to people with a finite life ...
My logic and reasoning applies regardless.

All suffering can be attributed to Satan and Adam, if one were to read the work you are trying to debunk.
Which can then be directly attributed to God as God made them. More importantly, a good god wouldn't make people suffer due to the actions of those so long ago, nor would it punish someone who had no knowledge of good and evil.

So even trying to blame Satan (who just told humanity the truth) and Adam doesn't magically get your god off the hook and make it not evil.

He was not evil in the first place. He, like other angels, was given free will. He sinned and fell.
And your god had no idea that he was going to be "evil"?
And your god, knowing that he was "evil", still allowed him to interfere with mankind and make them suffer?
Again, that doesn't get your god off the hook.

Free will is not all power.
And I never said it was.
The main point is that God intervening to stop someone harming another is no more a violation of free will than God allowing someone to harm another.

No, I dismiss them as ignorant because they are ignorant. For example, you seem to think free will is all power, and use that to justify that free will is violated by them being harmed.
No, you set up a straw man to pretend they are ignorant while ignoring the main point.

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I am suggesting the Bible is real, and its better to be safe than sorry.
So you are invoking Pascal's wager, one of the worst arguments to believe in a god?
No. I suggested no such thing. Where did I?
"Better to be safe than sorry" sure sounds like Pascal's wager.
You would rather be safe by believing in a god that may or may not exist and which may or may not reward you, than be sorry by ignoring it and facing its evil wrath.

Yeah, Jesus was pretty clear about his plans. Good point there.
And Jesus got a lot of people to defy God.
He even stepped in and stopped an execution which was in accordance with God's will.
He violated the Sabbath.

He is the antichrist.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 04, 2019, 02:45:26 PM
please do so in an appropriate thread
I am responding to those bringing it up.
But as you are claiming being an agent of Satan makes them a foundation of evil, or that opposing God makes them evil, they are relevant to this thread.
If your god is evil, that means opposing it does not make one evil.
If Satan is not evil, then being an agent of Satan does not make one evil.

If you would like to contest my warning to stay on topic do so in Suggestions and Concerns. I will not warn you again, in this thread or others. I'm sick of you shitting in the bed, and of hearing of it daily from the flat earthers you have driven from this site.

Others who have talked of it have agreed it was not on topic and that they would make a thread if they wished to discuss it. Honestly, I'd love to discuss it further with you in an appropriate place. Mostly, because your argument does nothing to address the many many many solutions proposed to this problem over the past thousands of years, and even those present in the Bible itself in say... Job or Romans.

Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 04, 2019, 03:07:02 PM
He is a part of the religious conspiracy to undermine God's word and sell us the snakes-oil of "space travel."

Now that you have proven without a doubt that he is an agent of Satan, what are the next steps? What do you intend to do with this powerful revelation?

As an aside, kind of ironic that you used the phrase "snakes-oil" as Rowbotham actually was a snake-oil sales man.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Smoke Machine on November 04, 2019, 05:43:59 PM
John boy, John boy. That awful hairstyle of yours alone, in your avatar, proves to me satan is indeed alive and well.

From what I can see, the topic of this thread is proving Satan and Elon Musk are one and the same. The problem is, your argument is flawed because it makes an assumption. An assumption that satan can masquerade as, or be, a human being.

Where in the bible does it say satan can be a living breathing human being, or employs agents, John Davis?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on November 05, 2019, 02:11:16 AM
John's posts have been getting more and more bizarre lately, but it looks like he's finally gone off the deep end.
He's just bored.

Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on November 05, 2019, 07:10:04 AM
John's posts have been getting more and more bizarre lately, but it looks like he's finally gone off the deep end.
He's just bored.
I think that John has been using inferior moon-block and the moon's rays are driving him mad.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Yes on November 05, 2019, 07:22:39 AM
He's just bored.
I think that John has been using inferior moon-block and the moon's rays are driving him mad.
Ever since I read the obvious lies of his fallacious Candel Experiment (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82883.0), I've been under the impression that he's just another FE troll.  However, perhaps my judgement was too hasty.  I think you may be right.  His mind has come under the influence of putrefying moon rays.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on November 05, 2019, 08:13:51 AM
John's posts have been getting more and more bizarre lately, but it looks like he's finally gone off the deep end.
He's just bored.
I think that John has been using inferior moon-block and the moon's rays are driving him mad.
I suspect it's some terrible combination of the these factors.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: FlatOrange on November 05, 2019, 12:20:57 PM
Does evil have the guise of being altruistic? He donated (https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-makes-massive-donation-to-tree-planting-cause-tweet-2019-10) $1 million for trees being planted, he works tirelessly (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/elon-musk-says-he-is-sleeping-on-tesla-factory-floor-to-save-time.html), he doesn't take a salary (https://www.investopedia.com/news/elon-musk-earns-californias-minimum-wage-ceos-tsla/).

Your claim that he is evil seems to lack support from acts of evil and is instead full of symbolism and mixing natural events with cryptic messages.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 05, 2019, 12:28:31 PM
I take the utmost care when studying the moon and always wear appropriate protection.

I think our next steps should be to disseminate the information for the purposes of outside verification. Perhaps in the form of a print and online comic tract that explains the situation in a way everyone can understand. In the meanwhile, more study is necessary and more digging. It is clear that he is not acting alone and we must work to find out the scope and breadth of this heinous attack on the righteous.

Does evil have the guise of being altruistic? He donated (https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-makes-massive-donation-to-tree-planting-cause-tweet-2019-10) $1 million for trees being planted, he works tirelessly (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/elon-musk-says-he-is-sleeping-on-tesla-factory-floor-to-save-time.html), he doesn't take a salary (https://www.investopedia.com/news/elon-musk-earns-californias-minimum-wage-ceos-tsla/).

Your claim that he is evil seems to lack support from acts of evil and is instead full of symbolism and mixing natural events with cryptic messages.
Let's see: infamous liar, criminal, and tree centric satanist claims he's sleeping on the factory floor to save time (that makes total sense), that he earns minimal wage (while also throwing a million dollars at trees to one up someone he doesn't like), and predictably and formally mentioned uses trees to help fuel his daemonic summoning ritual - #teamtree indeed.

And yes, I wouldn't put it past evil to have the guise of being altruistic. Again as formally mentioned: "for him in word, against him in deed." He would like to appear altruistic, but he is clearly fueled by nefarious motives. Least of these is likely his ego; the same ego that thinks it can control demons and use the key of david.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: FlatOrange on November 05, 2019, 12:34:58 PM
infamous liar, criminal
So you just label him these things and then say he's evil?? What did he do? You need to support your claims. You can't say he is evil because he's a criminal and then say he is a criminal because he is evil.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Smoke Machine on November 05, 2019, 03:46:46 PM
I take the utmost care when studying the moon and always wear appropriate protection.

I think our next steps should be to disseminate the information for the purposes of outside verification. Perhaps in the form of a print and online comic tract that explains the situation in a way everyone can understand. In the meanwhile, more study is necessary and more digging. It is clear that he is not acting alone and we must work to find out the scope and breadth of this heinous attack on the righteous.

Does evil have the guise of being altruistic? He donated (https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-makes-massive-donation-to-tree-planting-cause-tweet-2019-10) $1 million for trees being planted, he works tirelessly (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/elon-musk-says-he-is-sleeping-on-tesla-factory-floor-to-save-time.html), he doesn't take a salary (https://www.investopedia.com/news/elon-musk-earns-californias-minimum-wage-ceos-tsla/).

Your claim that he is evil seems to lack support from acts of evil and is instead full of symbolism and mixing natural events with cryptic messages.
Let's see: infamous liar, criminal, and tree centric satanist claims he's sleeping on the factory floor to save time (that makes total sense), that he earns minimal wage (while also throwing a million dollars at trees to one up someone he doesn't like), and predictably and formally mentioned uses trees to help fuel his daemonic summoning ritual - #teamtree indeed.

And yes, I wouldn't put it past evil to have the guise of being altruistic. Again as formally mentioned: "for him in word, against him in deed." He would like to appear altruistic, but he is clearly fueled by nefarious motives. Least of these is likely his ego; the same ego that thinks it can control demons and use the key of david.

Did you drink up all the communal wine at your local church before you entered the confessional booth? Typing posts on the FES in the confessional booth is evil, John boy.

You can't define what evil is, or a demon is, can you? Like I said, subjecting visitors to this good forum to the image of your fucked up hairstyle in your avatar might fulfill a definition of evil, for your cruel barber or wife, but is arguably also an attempt at humor.

Good and evil depends on your viewpoint. From Elon Musk's point of view, your words are from an evil little demon, John Davis.

 
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Yes on November 05, 2019, 04:52:36 PM
infamous liar, criminal
So you just label him these things and then say he's evil?? What did he do? You need to support your claims. You can't say he is evil because he's a criminal and then say he is a criminal because he is evil.
Well, his deadline projections are pretty much always wrong.  So that's kind of like lying, right?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Gumwars on November 05, 2019, 05:39:13 PM
So, FACT: Samuel Rowbotham dropped out of school at age 9.  FACT: Rowbotham lied and gave himself the title of doctor.  So, dropped out of school and was a conman.  No embellishment there.

Lets see a source for that, liar.

The Wikipedia article on Rowbotham says that he "dropped out of school at the age of 9 [citation needed]"

Liar I am not.  You and John seem to not understand what spewing falsehoods look like, starting with the absurd claim regarding the shape of the world.  Nearly all of the information available regarding Rowbotham is from the mouth of this conman himself.  Admittedly, the wiki source for "Parallax" being a drop out seems to be attributed to his aversion to education early on and that he had been nabbed due to truancy around the age of 7.  Understand that there is a difference between knowingly lying, as you and John seem so apt to do, and not checking a reference.

His self proclaimed doctorate is not in question, however, as this is a feature of the quack that even TFES recognizes.  He is not mentioned on the academic rolls at any university of the time.  Considering that he doesn't use his given name when referring to this medical credentials, one is left wondering how he came about them. 

Let me be clear on this; John Davis flat out lied about the twine and sticks experiment.  He never did it, though I believe to him the idea seemed simple in his mind.  Having never worked with extreme lengths of rope, twine, or cable, he was unaware that those all have considerable slack in them.  Enough slack that had he actually performed the experiment as he claimed he did, this problem would have come up.

You, Mr. Bishop, are guilty of deliberately making the same mistake Rowbotham did when performing a variation of the Bedford experiment.  The problem was well documented yet you intentionally ignored it and, shocker, proved that we can make the same mistake in the 21st century as Rowbotham did in the 19th. 
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Hamzah on November 05, 2019, 05:59:20 PM
How many people have been accused of "666"? Is John trying to create a scapegoat out of Elon Musk?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 06, 2019, 08:37:58 AM
infamous liar, criminal
So you just label him these things and then say he's evil?? What did he do? You need to support your claims. You can't say he is evil because he's a criminal and then say he is a criminal because he is evil.
He's broken the law in regards to a recent labor dispute. There is also the dispute with the SEC about him saying tesla was going private.

This perhaps is a bit unfair. Many of us are "criminals" by nature that man is evil and no one is perfect.

I take the utmost care when studying the moon and always wear appropriate protection.

I think our next steps should be to disseminate the information for the purposes of outside verification. Perhaps in the form of a print and online comic tract that explains the situation in a way everyone can understand. In the meanwhile, more study is necessary and more digging. It is clear that he is not acting alone and we must work to find out the scope and breadth of this heinous attack on the righteous.

Does evil have the guise of being altruistic? He donated (https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-makes-massive-donation-to-tree-planting-cause-tweet-2019-10) $1 million for trees being planted, he works tirelessly (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/elon-musk-says-he-is-sleeping-on-tesla-factory-floor-to-save-time.html), he doesn't take a salary (https://www.investopedia.com/news/elon-musk-earns-californias-minimum-wage-ceos-tsla/).

Your claim that he is evil seems to lack support from acts of evil and is instead full of symbolism and mixing natural events with cryptic messages.
Let's see: infamous liar, criminal, and tree centric satanist claims he's sleeping on the factory floor to save time (that makes total sense), that he earns minimal wage (while also throwing a million dollars at trees to one up someone he doesn't like), and predictably and formally mentioned uses trees to help fuel his daemonic summoning ritual - #teamtree indeed.

And yes, I wouldn't put it past evil to have the guise of being altruistic. Again as formally mentioned: "for him in word, against him in deed." He would like to appear altruistic, but he is clearly fueled by nefarious motives. Least of these is likely his ego; the same ego that thinks it can control demons and use the key of david.

Did you drink up all the communal wine at your local church before you entered the confessional booth? Typing posts on the FES in the confessional booth is evil, John boy.

You can't define what evil is, or a demon is, can you? Like I said, subjecting visitors to this good forum to the image of your fucked up hairstyle in your avatar might fulfill a definition of evil, for your cruel barber or wife, but is arguably also an attempt at humor.

Good and evil depends on your viewpoint. From Elon Musk's point of view, your words are from an evil little demon, John Davis.

 
The question of whether evil is universally definable is an open one. You may well think that it is relative, but it would be easy to point to the counter arguments such as CS Lewis which states some acts are universally evil, such as rape and murder. By taking morality as subjective, he argues, you are robbing man of moral motivation as well as deprecating appreciation of true good.

He also points out that such a stance is not really defendable and it is unlikely you can point to any true example of subjectivism.
So, FACT: Samuel Rowbotham dropped out of school at age 9.  FACT: Rowbotham lied and gave himself the title of doctor.  So, dropped out of school and was a conman.  No embellishment there.

Lets see a source for that, liar.

The Wikipedia article on Rowbotham says that he "dropped out of school at the age of 9 [citation needed]"

Liar I am not.  You and John seem to not understand what spewing falsehoods look like, starting with the absurd claim regarding the shape of the world.  Nearly all of the information available regarding Rowbotham is from the mouth of this conman himself.  Admittedly, the wiki source for "Parallax" being a drop out seems to be attributed to his aversion to education early on and that he had been nabbed due to truancy around the age of 7.  Understand that there is a difference between knowingly lying, as you and John seem so apt to do, and not checking a reference.

His self proclaimed doctorate is not in question, however, as this is a feature of the quack that even TFES recognizes.  He is not mentioned on the academic rolls at any university of the time.  Considering that he doesn't use his given name when referring to this medical credentials, one is left wondering how he came about them. 

Let me be clear on this; John Davis flat out lied about the twine and sticks experiment.  He never did it, though I believe to him the idea seemed simple in his mind.  Having never worked with extreme lengths of rope, twine, or cable, he was unaware that those all have considerable slack in them.  Enough slack that had he actually performed the experiment as he claimed he did, this problem would have come up.

You, Mr. Bishop, are guilty of deliberately making the same mistake Rowbotham did when performing a variation of the Bedford experiment.  The problem was well documented yet you intentionally ignored it and, shocker, proved that we can make the same mistake in the 21st century as Rowbotham did in the 19th. 
Got it. You have no idea what the Bishop experiment is, you lied about Rowbotham's dropping out, and you baselessly lie that I did not perform the experiment. You also seem to be lying about the sources that covered Rowbotham at the time.

For a man in a glass house, you throw lots of rocks.

Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Tom Bishop on November 06, 2019, 10:07:26 AM
Read our tfes wiki entry on Rowbotham: https://wiki.tfes.org/Samuel_Rowbotham

If Rowbotham was a fake doctor, he did a pretty good job of it, treating patients with medicine, and writing into medical journals, publishing articles, for an entire career across decades without anyone catching on. Other doctors used phosphorous to treat disease as well, and claim that it was useful for a variety of ailments.

Seems more likely that you guys just don't know where he went to school, or that the records are unavailable or undigitized, and that you have declared that Rowbotham is a fraud based on your fe-fees.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 06, 2019, 12:48:50 PM
I'm impressed in how far your wiki has come. Well done.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Gumwars on November 08, 2019, 03:47:38 PM
Got it. You have no idea what the Bishop experiment is,

I'm aware of what was posted on multiple sites on the Internet.  I'm aware of its location and what the goal was.  I am also aware of what mistakes were made and why his results were incorrect.  As you have yet to expound on the point, beyond your usual pithy responses, I'm going to ignore your useless reply here.

you lied about Rowbotham's dropping out,

This would be a true statement if I was the one who wrote the Wiki about Rowbotham.  I am not the author, but I did use it for reference.  I have no problem agreeing with Tom's observation.  Still, a liar I am not.

and you baselessly lie that I did not perform the experiment.

Ahh, but here John this is far from baseless and not a lie at all.  Let me briefly review what you've offered about your so called experiment:

I asked you what weight and number of ply twine used; you declined to expand on it
I asked you what diameter and length of pole use to secure the twine; you declined to expand on it

Those two point alone are enough to debunk your intellectually stunted attempt at proving nothing.  Let me help with this.  A Mk. 84, 2000lbs bomb has a fragmentation minimum safe distance of just over one mile.  If I'm going to perform a remote manipulation of a bomb fuse at a safe distance, I need more than a mile of rope.  There is a tool called a mechanical impact wrench:

(http://www.chemringts.com/~/media/Images/C/Chemring-TS-V2/content-images/product-images/17FE.jpg?la=en)

That is used with rope to remotely remove bomb fuses from unexploded munitions.  So, I have hands-on, first person experience working with the tools you claim to have used in your experiment.  I know, personally, that a quarter mile of rope has several dozens of feet worth of slack in it and that no matter how tight you draw it, you can never get it parallel to the ground across the entire length.  We used half inch rebar to secure the rope, not sticks. 

When you say that you pulled twine, and I'm assuming 3-ply jute twine, taut to a point where it was parallel over a quarter mile length and secured with sticks on either end, I know you're full of shit.  3-ply jute has a tensile strength of about 80 lbs.  We used double braided nylon rope for EOD work, and that has a tensile strength of 14,500 lbs.  And we can't pull that level to the ground over a quarter mile, no matter how hard we pull it. 

I know you're lying John, which is why I asked for the specifics regarding the experiment.  Which is why you haven't provided them.  If what you say is true, then tell me what kind of twine you used and what diameter/length sticks.  I know you won't, but I'm giving you a chance to prove that you aren't a liar. 

To anyone else reading this, what Mr. Davis is doing in this thread is classical behavior for him.  Notice that he never makes a stand on a point.  He never makes a technical assertion that can be independently verified.  When pressed, all he ever does is evade or ignore.  At best, you'll get him upset and he'll mock the role of a wounded gentleman. 

John, this conversation we're having is why you can't move this crap forward.  If you can't make a stand, while its true you'll never lose, but you sure as hell will never win.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Unconvinced on November 08, 2019, 04:10:05 PM
I'm impressed in how far your wiki has come. Well done.

Is Tom responsible for all of that wiki?

Not going to bring anything up now, mind you.  I might start another thread with some comments sometime though.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 08, 2019, 08:21:52 PM
We have far more important things to deal with than your quibbling about syntax and form.

The wolf is at our door.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 08, 2019, 08:22:39 PM
From what I've learned about the Ages, we need to be ready.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 08, 2019, 08:39:10 PM
We have far more important things to deal with than your quibbling about syntax and form.
Do you have any time to quibble about intellectual integrity?
To talk of the integrity of knowledge, would mean we could at least define knowledge at the outright. Its much better that we have no idea of what we might define knowledge as. It will shape us for years to come.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Gumwars on November 08, 2019, 08:55:09 PM
We have far more important things to deal with than your quibbling about syntax and form.
Do you have any time to quibble about intellectual integrity?
To talk of the integrity of knowledge, would mean we could at least define knowledge at the outright. Its much better that we have no idea of what we might define knowledge as. It will shape us for years to come.

How about starting with just integrity.  I think we'd be fairly satisfied with defining that.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Hamzah on November 08, 2019, 08:58:16 PM
John, are you really expecting us to believe that Elon Musk is an agent of Satan?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 08, 2019, 09:05:58 PM
We have far more important things to deal with than your quibbling about syntax and form.
Do you have any time to quibble about intellectual integrity?
To talk of the integrity of knowledge, would mean we could at least define knowledge at the outright. Its much better that we have no idea of what we might define knowledge as. It will shape us for years to come.

How about starting with just integrity.  I think we'd be fairly satisfied with defining that.
I'd like to get some food to folks in my town. I'd like to design that process to scale so we can get folks fed around here. The ones that really need it.

On the more phili level yes - we can talk about the fucking way or trolling or a flat earth or some sorta magic all day long.

But as the flat earth society, yes even you trolls - we all have to help. What's your ideas?

For those others that are listening - yes he is the devil. Or at least an important point to watch. We will report with the weather.

Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Gumwars on November 08, 2019, 09:18:12 PM
But as the flat earth society, yes even you trolls - we all have to help. What's your ideas?

How about you stand on your own two feet and actually fight for a change?  It's sickening watching you ignore and evade every time a challenge presents itself to your sacred cultish idea.  That is the ONLY thing that can help TFES.

As far as the rest of the world is concerned, well, the USA is against the ropes at the moment.  We have let a lunatic loose in the control cab and most civic duty minded folk are busy attending that emergency.  My idea there is this; rest of the world take note of what putting an uneducated kook in charge of the country can do.  Don' t do it, even if it seems like a good idea.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 08, 2019, 09:40:55 PM
I'm sorry friend. You have eyes that cannot see.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Gumwars on November 08, 2019, 09:46:16 PM
I'm sorry friend. You have eyes that cannot see.

Evade.  Ignore.  Repeat.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 08, 2019, 09:54:51 PM
Yeah, referencing a corollary passage must be evasion. The mind to the unknown shudders and retreats. The centre cannot be held.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 08, 2019, 09:56:34 PM
Make no mistake - he is at our door. It might not be today, or tomorrow; the opposition will rise to meet you, and I will aid you in any way you might need. The storm is coming.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Gumwars on November 08, 2019, 10:20:54 PM
Make no mistake - he is at our door. It might not be today, or tomorrow; the opposition will rise to meet you, and I will aid you in any way you might need. The storm is coming.

I have been an atheist for many years.  The notion of god/satan is, no offense, a childish threat used to cajole a juvenile species into placation.  Homo sapiens means man of wisdom; what logic can be applied to religion?  What reason can be gleaned from the Quaran?  The Bible?  The Kaballah?   The are stories from a distant time when we didn't know the world as we do now. 

I don't mean to mock your faith John.  I just find it an extreme stretch to think Elon Musk is a demonic agent.  It's a little fringe and open to skeptical criticism.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 08, 2019, 10:35:05 PM
I was an atheist first when my brother died. Well before that, but we were never religious up in the North. I didn't have the idea in my head to start with - (teaching kids religion to me is child abuse.)

We moved down to the South at the time so he could attend a university. I thought the same, and had the same arguments against Christ when it happened. Every single one. I was the dick rebel religious kid in a catholic high school. Totally spaghetti monster meets happy toaster meets every other religion.

Religion was a devil to me. I mean it seamed like a good joke that I could be on the good end of. It seemed like bullshit - and the most of the lot of it is. It didn't seem like a thing that could heal.

You ask what reason can be gleaned from religious texts. From someone like you, where you are now - its evolution. Its thousands of years of natural evolution beyond what natural philosophy or philosophy might say on the matter - its a naturally grown truth. Its value compared to say - the engineering in a microwave - it is so much more.

its so easy to divide everything into this and that -  but that is a cop out that robs us all.

My favorite, to answer your question pointedly, is "they know not what they do." It is the best phrase uttered. It describes where wer are with knowledge 1000+ years earlier.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Hamzah on November 08, 2019, 11:41:17 PM
John, why are you accusing Elon Musk of using cryptic messages when you are using them as well?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on November 09, 2019, 12:25:59 PM

Fuck me.

That is the best phrase ever uttered.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 09, 2019, 12:37:47 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmfzEpMX0AAhiTG.jpg)

Pure evil.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Hamzah on November 10, 2019, 08:00:56 PM
John, why do you disbelieve in global earth but believe Elon Musk is a CEO of SpaceX?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 10, 2019, 11:44:36 PM
Make no mistake - he is at our door. It might not be today, or tomorrow; the opposition will rise to meet you, and I will aid you in any way you might need. The storm is coming.
Haven't seen Satan, but there were some Christians at my door a few days ago. They seemed nice, but I had visitors. Could not chat with them.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 13, 2019, 11:57:54 AM
John, why do you disbelieve in global earth but believe Elon Musk is a CEO of SpaceX?
Well, he is the CEO of SpaceX. I would contend its goals have nothing to do with space travel and are instead to dupe the populace and fuel money into his satanism and neohumanist ai.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Hamzah on November 13, 2019, 06:34:42 PM
John, why do you disbelieve in global earth but believe Elon Musk is a CEO of SpaceX?
Well, he is the CEO of SpaceX.

How do you actually know that? According to FE hypothesis, all the pilots and scientists are actors. What makes Elon Musk a real character?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 14, 2019, 10:29:59 AM
John, why do you disbelieve in global earth but believe Elon Musk is a CEO of SpaceX?
Well, he is the CEO of SpaceX.

How do you actually know that? According to FE hypothesis, all the pilots and scientists are actors. What makes Elon Musk a real character?
I don't know of anyone who claims all pilots and scientists are actors. If anyone does, they are foolish beyond compare.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 14, 2019, 02:25:33 PM
John, why do you disbelieve in global earth but believe Elon Musk is a CEO of SpaceX?
Well, he is the CEO of SpaceX.

How do you actually know that? According to FE hypothesis, all the pilots and scientists are actors. What makes Elon Musk a real character?
I don't know of anyone who claims all pilots and scientists are actors. If anyone does, they are foolish beyond compare.

Maybe not all pilots and scientists, but Wise posits that Qantas pilots and flight attendants shove passengers out of their planes over the south Pacific. Maybe not actors, but definitely murderers.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 15, 2019, 09:43:53 AM
John, why do you disbelieve in global earth but believe Elon Musk is a CEO of SpaceX?
Well, he is the CEO of SpaceX.

How do you actually know that? According to FE hypothesis, all the pilots and scientists are actors. What makes Elon Musk a real character?
I don't know of anyone who claims all pilots and scientists are actors. If anyone does, they are foolish beyond compare.

Maybe not all pilots and scientists, but Wise posits that Qantas pilots and flight attendants shove passengers out of their planes over the south Pacific. Maybe not actors, but definitely murderers.
Having flown Qantas I can verify that he is either right about me being face swapped or (far more likely) this doesn't happen. Is Elon Musk who he says he is? We have reason to believe his father exists and is just as dangerous and evil as him. Really, we could never know for sure. We do know that whoever he is, he is attempting to do some pretty evil stuff. He's no boy scout.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on November 15, 2019, 09:55:41 AM
John, you believe Musk when he says that he's CEO of SpaceX but don't believe him when he says that SpaceX launches rockets into space?  How does that work?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 15, 2019, 10:12:41 AM
John, you believe Musk when he says that he's CEO of SpaceX but don't believe him when he says that SpaceX launches rockets into space?  How does that work?
How does it work that I believe he's the CEO of a sham? Your premise seems to be that if I believe (or disbelieve) one thing he says I must not believe anything he says. This seems pretty silly.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 15, 2019, 01:53:47 PM
John, why do you disbelieve in global earth but believe Elon Musk is a CEO of SpaceX?
Well, he is the CEO of SpaceX.

How do you actually know that? According to FE hypothesis, all the pilots and scientists are actors. What makes Elon Musk a real character?
I don't know of anyone who claims all pilots and scientists are actors. If anyone does, they are foolish beyond compare.

Maybe not all pilots and scientists, but Wise posits that Qantas pilots and flight attendants shove passengers out of their planes over the south Pacific. Maybe not actors, but definitely murderers.
Having flown Qantas I can verify that he is either right about me being face swapped or (far more likely) this doesn't happen. Is Elon Musk who he says he is? We have reason to believe his father exists and is just as dangerous and evil as him. Really, we could never know for sure. We do know that whoever he is, he is attempting to do some pretty evil stuff. He's no boy scout.

I'm glad you survived Qantas. Many do not, apparently.

What's the evil stuff he's doing again?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Hamzah on November 15, 2019, 07:55:40 PM
John, you believe Musk when he says that he's CEO of SpaceX but don't believe him when he says that SpaceX launches rockets into space?  How does that work?
How does it work that I believe he's the CEO of a sham? Your premise seems to be that if I believe (or disbelieve) one thing he says I must not believe anything he says. This seems pretty silly.

If he is a liar, why do you believe him?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 18, 2019, 09:55:06 AM
John, why do you disbelieve in global earth but believe Elon Musk is a CEO of SpaceX?
Well, he is the CEO of SpaceX.

How do you actually know that? According to FE hypothesis, all the pilots and scientists are actors. What makes Elon Musk a real character?
I don't know of anyone who claims all pilots and scientists are actors. If anyone does, they are foolish beyond compare.

Maybe not all pilots and scientists, but Wise posits that Qantas pilots and flight attendants shove passengers out of their planes over the south Pacific. Maybe not actors, but definitely murderers.
Having flown Qantas I can verify that he is either right about me being face swapped or (far more likely) this doesn't happen. Is Elon Musk who he says he is? We have reason to believe his father exists and is just as dangerous and evil as him. Really, we could never know for sure. We do know that whoever he is, he is attempting to do some pretty evil stuff. He's no boy scout.

I'm glad you survived Qantas. Many do not, apparently.

What's the evil stuff he's doing again?

Summoning Demons and subverting God's works through neohumanism and AI
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 18, 2019, 09:56:08 AM
John, you believe Musk when he says that he's CEO of SpaceX but don't believe him when he says that SpaceX launches rockets into space?  How does that work?
How does it work that I believe he's the CEO of a sham? Your premise seems to be that if I believe (or disbelieve) one thing he says I must not believe anything he says. This seems pretty silly.

If he is a liar, why do you believe him?
I don't have to believe him to know that he acts as CEO. Could he just be a figure head or a puppet? Sure. I don't think the evidence points that way though.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: New Earth on November 18, 2019, 10:56:16 AM
I agree that Elon Musk is Satanic, but so is every billionaire. Musk is just another spoiled hipster who actively participates in demoralization of our society and degradation of young minds. I mean his Tesla sucks, his space X will never happen, like John Davis said he is just trying to dupe people, take their money and then come up with excuse that he can't give them a ride on the magic carpet, just like the Russian space agencies duped westerners LOL

Musk is just a rich kid, a fucking stoner with no brain.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: EvolvedMantisShrimp on November 18, 2019, 12:14:23 PM
I agree that Elon Musk is Satanic, but so is every billionaire. Musk is just another spoiled hipster who actively participates in demoralization of our society and degradation of young minds. I mean his Tesla sucks, his space X will never happen, like John Davis said he is just trying to dupe people, take their money and then come up with excuse that he can't give them a ride on the magic carpet, just like the Russian space agencies duped westerners LOL

Musk is just a rich kid, a fucking stoner with no brain.

I thought CEOs were Vedic gods.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 18, 2019, 12:38:32 PM
I mean his Tesla sucks, his space X will never happen...

What do you mean? Space X has already happened. They've had a couple of dozen successful missions. As well, I was in a Lyft about a month ago and the car was a Tesla 3. I had never been in a Tesla. It was really nice, great ride, quick, nimble. I was impressed. I'm not sue what your basis is for they suck.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rabinoz on November 18, 2019, 03:05:59 PM
I agree that Elon Musk is Satanic, but so is every billionaire. Musk is just another spoiled hipster who actively participates in demoralization of our society and degradation of young minds. I mean his Tesla sucks,
Do you own a Tesla if not how do you know "his Tesla sucks"?

Quote from: New Earth
his space X will never happen,
You're a bit late about "SpaceX will never happen"! It's already happened and they are going "great guns" sorry about that!
This launch put 60 satellites into orbit, pretty cool!

Blastoff! SpaceX Launches 60 More Starlink Satellites by VideoFromSpace

How do you like them apples?

Quote from: New Earth
like John Davis said he is just trying to dupe people, take their money and then come up with excuse that he can't give them a ride on the magic carpet, just like the Russian space agencies duped westerners LOL
If that is correct how about some evidence? But you never seem to have any evidence for anything you claim so why should anyone take notice of what you write?

Quote from: New Earth
Musk is just a rich kid, a fucking stoner with no brain.
I'll agree that "Musk is just a rich kid" but that "kid" started from virtually nothing - what have YOU done?
And he's no "stoner with no brain"!
He's a thousand time smarter than you and knows a great deal about rockets and employs other that have more specialised knowledge than he does.

You and John Davis are just jealous of his success.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: New Earth on November 18, 2019, 04:20:45 PM
I mean his Tesla sucks, his space X will never happen...

What do you mean? Space X has already happened. They've had a couple of dozen successful missions. As well, I was in a Lyft about a month ago and the car was a Tesla 3. I had never been in a Tesla. It was really nice, great ride, quick, nimble. I was impressed. I'm not sue what your basis is for they suck.


Wow that just shows you how stupid people are. He could afford Tesla and yet drove for Lyft? LOL
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rabinoz on November 18, 2019, 04:46:29 PM
I mean his Tesla sucks, his space X will never happen...

What do you mean? Space X has already happened. They've had a couple of dozen successful missions. As well, I was in a Lyft about a month ago and the car was a Tesla 3. I had never been in a Tesla. It was really nice, great ride, quick, nimble. I was impressed. I'm not sue what your basis is for they suck.


Wow that just shows you how stupid people are. He could afford Tesla and yet drove for Lyft? LOL
Why does that show anyone stupid?
"The Tesla Model 3 is a sedan. The 2019 Model 3 starts at $39,490 (MSRP), with a destination charge of $1,200. It gets EPA-estimated 116-133 MPG combined."
And
"The valuation analysts at Kelley Blue Book today reported the estimated average transaction price for a light vehicle in the United States was $36,843 in April 2019."

I would say that your comment shows us "how stupid" you are for saying "He could afford Tesla and yet drove for Lyft?"
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 18, 2019, 04:46:37 PM
I mean his Tesla sucks, his space X will never happen...

What do you mean? Space X has already happened. They've had a couple of dozen successful missions. As well, I was in a Lyft about a month ago and the car was a Tesla 3. I had never been in a Tesla. It was really nice, great ride, quick, nimble. I was impressed. I'm not sue what your basis is for they suck.


Wow that just shows you how stupid people are. He could afford Tesla and yet drove for Lyft? LOL

It's strange, I've been picked up with lyft (and Uber) by a mercedes, bmw, audi, you name it really. Tesla 3 base is $35k. That's a lot, for sure, but it runs the gamut in the city where I live. You could get picked up by a corolla or lexus, economy or luxury vehicle and everything in-between.

The driver was young, maybe University age, perhaps his parents car. Who knows. Seems odd that you would race to the judgement of stupidity.

All that said, take a ride in a Tesla before you say it sucks. I found the one I was in was really nice.

And, don't forget Space X has already 'happened'...a lot. Here's a list of their missions, dozens of them:

https://www.spacex.com/missions
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Hamzah on November 19, 2019, 04:34:04 AM
One should go to Amsterdam Airport, if want to see Tesla taxi paradise.

Anyways, there is a room for a debate whether Musk is duping people for money or not. But calling him an agent of Satan is a falacy.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 19, 2019, 05:01:23 AM
Norway has the most Teslas per capita. Makes sense, as they had/have a lot of black metal bands, too. Churches burning and so on. And they own 1.5% of all shares in the world. Reeks of Satan.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: SomeDutchGuy on November 19, 2019, 06:28:26 AM
One should go to Amsterdam Airport, if want to see Tesla taxi paradise.

Anyways, there is a room for a debate whether Musk is duping people for money or not. But calling him an agent of Satan is a falacy.

The company I work for has multiple lease Tesla's. They're cool cars!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on November 19, 2019, 08:00:06 AM
Reeks of Satan.
Good name for an aftershave.

The again, so is Elon Musk   :P
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: New Earth on November 19, 2019, 11:37:40 AM
I mean his Tesla sucks, his space X will never happen...

What do you mean? Space X has already happened. They've had a couple of dozen successful missions. As well, I was in a Lyft about a month ago and the car was a Tesla 3. I had never been in a Tesla. It was really nice, great ride, quick, nimble. I was impressed. I'm not sue what your basis is for they suck.


Wow that just shows you how stupid people are. He could afford Tesla and yet drove for Lyft? LOL
Why does that show anyone stupid?
"The Tesla Model 3 is a sedan. The 2019 Model 3 starts at $39,490 (MSRP), with a destination charge of $1,200. It gets EPA-estimated 116-133 MPG combined."
And
"The valuation analysts at Kelley Blue Book today reported the estimated average transaction price for a light vehicle in the United States was $36,843 in April 2019."

I would say that your comment shows us "how stupid" you are for saying "He could afford Tesla and yet drove for Lyft?"


In my city Lyft pays drivers 60 cents a mile, I actually drove it with my old Toyota. You get bunch of drunks who ruin your car and you put thousands of miles a month if you do it full time. Why would anyone with Tesla want to destroy their car and do something so unprofitable and unrewarding? In two years his 40,000 dollar Tesla would be valued at 15,000 due to millage and different damages. That is why I said the driver was stupid to even drive for Lyft. You wanna drive for Lyft with a cheap car that you don't care for not with fucking Tesla.

Getting back to Musk, he is basically a wanna be Iron Man Tony Starks, but he is not nearly as cool, he is a trust fund brat and a loser like any other modern Hipster. He contributes nothing to our society besides arrogance and his little smirks. But in America guys like this are praised because they got money. I say he can take his money and stick his straight up his candy ass (Sorry Rock)

I have nothing against being rich if you worked hard or have some real inventions or new ideas. As much as I don't like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, they earned their pay. what did Musk do?




Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 19, 2019, 11:52:13 AM
In 1995 he co-founded Zip2, a web software company, with his brother Kimbal, which was acquired by Compaq for $340 million in 1999. Musk then founded X.com, an online bank. It merged with Confinity in 2000 and later that year became PayPal, which was bought by eBay for $1.5 billion in October 2002.

His mother, Maye Musk, was a prominent dietician and his father had his own engineering practice.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Yes on November 19, 2019, 12:42:19 PM
what did Musk do?
Do you suppose he steals resources from the yogurt ocean to pay for all the CGI livestreams of rocket launches and all the drugs needed to neuralyze all the Californians who have personally witnessed the rocket launches?

Maybe that's where the rockets are really going!  Since you have convinced us all that space can't exist for some reason, he's probably shooting rockets to the yogurt ocean for more of those infinite earth goodies.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 19, 2019, 12:44:51 PM
In 1995 he co-founded Zip2, a web software company, with his brother Kimbal, which was acquired by Compaq for $340 million in 1999. Musk then founded X.com, an online bank. It merged with Confinity in 2000 and later that year became PayPal, which was bought by eBay for $1.5 billion in October 2002.

His mother, Maye Musk, was a prominent dietician and his father had his own engineering practice.

Specifically, In 1995, Elon Musk and his brother Kimbal founded Zip2 with $28,000 out of their father's bank account.

And on and up from there. If New Earth considers an initial $28k from his Dad a trust fund baby move, well, I have a much different definition of such.

Seems to me Elon is pretty much self-made and quite good at it.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: New Earth on November 19, 2019, 01:27:02 PM
In 1995 he co-founded Zip2, a web software company, with his brother Kimbal, which was acquired by Compaq for $340 million in 1999. Musk then founded X.com, an online bank. It merged with Confinity in 2000 and later that year became PayPal, which was bought by eBay for $1.5 billion in October 2002.

His mother, Maye Musk, was a prominent dietician and his father had his own engineering practice.


Exactly right, rich parents, no more questions your honor LOL
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: New Earth on November 19, 2019, 01:30:13 PM
In 1995 he co-founded Zip2, a web software company, with his brother Kimbal, which was acquired by Compaq for $340 million in 1999. Musk then founded X.com, an online bank. It merged with Confinity in 2000 and later that year became PayPal, which was bought by eBay for $1.5 billion in October 2002.

His mother, Maye Musk, was a prominent dietician and his father had his own engineering practice.

Specifically, In 1995, Elon Musk and his brother Kimbal founded Zip2 with $28,000 out of their father's bank account.

And on and up from there. If New Earth considers an initial $28k from his Dad a trust fund baby move, well, I have a much different definition of such.

Seems to me Elon is pretty much self-made and quite good at it.



Self made means zero start. 28K is not a lot of money but its something many people never see.  Like I said he is a hipster with rich parents, I see his kind every day in my city.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 19, 2019, 01:50:44 PM
The same father he said was inherently evil and committed every sin known to man is the one that founded everything he was able to do.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 19, 2019, 01:51:30 PM
28k is a ludicrous amount of money to be gifted.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Crutchwater on November 19, 2019, 03:12:47 PM
28k is a ludicrous amount of money to be gifted.

Seems like a great investment, to me!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 19, 2019, 04:07:34 PM
In 1995 he co-founded Zip2, a web software company, with his brother Kimbal, which was acquired by Compaq for $340 million in 1999. Musk then founded X.com, an online bank. It merged with Confinity in 2000 and later that year became PayPal, which was bought by eBay for $1.5 billion in October 2002.

His mother, Maye Musk, was a prominent dietician and his father had his own engineering practice.

Specifically, In 1995, Elon Musk and his brother Kimbal founded Zip2 with $28,000 out of their father's bank account.

And on and up from there. If New Earth considers an initial $28k from his Dad a trust fund baby move, well, I have a much different definition of such.

Seems to me Elon is pretty much self-made and quite good at it.



Self made means zero start. 28K is not a lot of money but its something many people never see.  Like I said he is a hipster with rich parents, I see his kind every day in my city.

Like I said, your definition is different than mine. I think parlaying $28k, whether it was a gift, an investment, stolen or from gambling winnings, into a $340 million dollar company is pretty much the definition of self made.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 19, 2019, 04:12:40 PM
28k is a ludicrous amount of money to be gifted.

What's not a ludicrous amount to be gifted? And, apparently it was a loan, not a gift:

"The local business Internet service software company was founded by Musk and his brother Kimbal after taking out a $28k loan from their father."
https://www.gq.com.au/success/career/5-times-elon-musks-business-ideas-failed/image-gallery/24ebfb0bfd644ac98889666eb731c016
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on November 19, 2019, 04:37:24 PM
Like I said, your definition is different than mine. I think parlaying $28k, whether it was a gift, an investment, stolen or from gambling winnings, into a $340 million dollar company is pretty much the definition of self made.
Obviously, having Satan on your side makes it a lot easier.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Crutchwater on November 19, 2019, 05:19:01 PM
Hail Satan!

Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 19, 2019, 09:16:06 PM
Self made means zero start. 28K is not a lot of money but its something many people never see.  Like I said he is a hipster with rich parents, I see his kind every day in my city.
Self-made men can take loans from the bank to start a business. Or from relatives and friends. Shark Tank has a few of these cases. The fact you can’t do shit does not mean someone loaning 28 000 from their family and turning that to billions is not an accomplishment.

EDIT: I did receive a few thousand (Finnish) marks from my granddad to start my first business back in the day. The company is still alive, but it never made me rich. Granted, 'tis not 28 000 dollars, but if I had even a portion of Elon's business acumen, I should have made at least a few million. The monies for the second and third business I coughed up myself. Second one went under, and the third is only, and at best, able to pay my salary, at least before the product is ready.

So again: Musk seems to know something more than I do. Maybe it is the pact with Satan? I think I need to look into that.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/26uTqYGxihZ6UMh32/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on November 20, 2019, 04:04:32 AM
28k is a ludicrous amount of money to be gifted.
It wouldn't even buy a Tesla.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on November 20, 2019, 06:24:52 AM
Self made means zero start.
I started with nothing and still have most of it left.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: New Earth on November 20, 2019, 07:56:44 AM
Hey John have you thought about banning some of these people for low content?

Anyways a lot of you don't understand how this all works. Self made means you came from humble beginnings and didn't have rich parents, yet somehow managed to make lots of money due to your own intelligence and skill, by this definition Musk is not self made, there is no further argument about this. Now let me explain how most trust fund brats make money. When they get their parents money they hire managers and financial advisers who run the business for them. Do you honestly think Musk made all the right decisions? No Musk simply hired good managers to run it. Musk simply smokes his peace pipe and goes to the mailbox to collect his check.

I'm not a socialist and I'm very critical of current democratic candidates but I do understand why they are gaining support, it is precisely because of guys like Musk and many others like him who got the world on the silver platter for nothing.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 20, 2019, 08:10:27 AM
How do you know Musk has not made the decisions himself? And a loan of 28 000 does not exactly stink of untold riches. People loan more for houses and apartments, even cars. Quite telling, though, if you consider a loan of 28 grand equal to a trust fund. Then again you think CEOs are some otherwordly rich and select group, too. Your job must be interesting.

Also, I’d say your definition of ”self-made” is curious. Pretty sure the majority does not see it that way.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/self-made

So, unless his parents were billionaires, Musk is a dictionary perfect example of a self-made billionaire.

EDIT: Less than 2 percent of the U.S. population receives a trust fund, usually as a means of inheriting large sums of money from wealthy parents, according to the Survey of Consumer Finances. The median amount is about $285,000 (the average was $4,062,918) — enough to make a major, lasting impact.

https://www.thecut.com/2018/04/what-its-really-like-to-have-a-trust-fund.html
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Yes on November 20, 2019, 08:22:20 AM
Hey John have you thought about banning some of these people for low content?
Sounds to me like you're scared to face the possibility that SpaceX is shooting rockets to yogurt oceans.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: New Earth on November 20, 2019, 10:53:46 AM
Hey John have you thought about banning some of these people for low content?
Sounds to me like you're scared to face the possibility that SpaceX is shooting rockets to yogurt oceans.


Low content please ban this user.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: New Earth on November 20, 2019, 10:55:41 AM
How do you know Musk has not made the decisions himself? And a loan of 28 000 does not exactly stink of untold riches. People loan more for houses and apartments, even cars. Quite telling, though, if you consider a loan of 28 grand equal to a trust fund. Then again you think CEOs are some otherwordly rich and select group, too. Your job must be interesting.

Also, I’d say your definition of ”self-made” is curious. Pretty sure the majority does not see it that way.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/self-made

So, unless his parents were billionaires, Musk is a dictionary perfect example of a self-made billionaire.

EDIT: Less than 2 percent of the U.S. population receives a trust fund, usually as a means of inheriting large sums of money from wealthy parents, according to the Survey of Consumer Finances. The median amount is about $285,000 (the average was $4,062,918) — enough to make a major, lasting impact.

https://www.thecut.com/2018/04/what-its-really-like-to-have-a-trust-fund.html


You are from Finland so please don't comment on what is going on in America, you don't know. And no I do not think that all CEO's are Vedic gods, you have taken my posts out of content.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 20, 2019, 11:03:23 AM
I can read. And I know enough people from there. But it is true I am not from the US. Still, I'd imagine people take money from the bank to afford housing, no?

Or was it about the trust fund article? Is it false in what way? 28 000 dollar loan does not seem like the same thing as a 280 000 dollar trust fund to me. Do I need to be an American to see the similarity?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Crutchwater on November 20, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
Let's vote!

I nominate New Earth for All Powerful King Moderator!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 20, 2019, 11:25:06 AM
Let's vote!

I nominate New Earth for All Powerful King Moderator!
+1

Should shake things up a bit.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on November 20, 2019, 05:31:36 PM
How do you know Musk has not made the decisions himself? And a loan of 28 000 does not exactly stink of untold riches. People loan more for houses and apartments, even cars. Quite telling, though, if you consider a loan of 28 grand equal to a trust fund. Then again you think CEOs are some otherwordly rich and select group, too. Your job must be interesting.

Also, I’d say your definition of ”self-made” is curious. Pretty sure the majority does not see it that way.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/self-made

So, unless his parents were billionaires, Musk is a dictionary perfect example of a self-made billionaire.

EDIT: Less than 2 percent of the U.S. population receives a trust fund, usually as a means of inheriting large sums of money from wealthy parents, according to the Survey of Consumer Finances. The median amount is about $285,000 (the average was $4,062,918) — enough to make a major, lasting impact.

https://www.thecut.com/2018/04/what-its-really-like-to-have-a-trust-fund.html


You are from Finland so please don't comment on what is going on in America, you don't know. And no I do not think that all CEO's are Vedic gods, you have taken my posts out of content.

I live in the US and have all my life, born and raised and I know what I'm talking about; a $28k loan turning it into $150 million dollar company is not 'trust fund' it is decidedly self-made. And even though rvlvr is Finnish he is spot on in his assessment here. Where as you are decidedly spot off in yours. 
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 21, 2019, 04:25:47 AM
https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-starship-mark-1-explosion-overpressure-event-boca-chica-texas-2019-11?r=US&IR=T

Can that be anything else than Musk trying to cover his tracks?!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: New Earth on November 21, 2019, 12:03:01 PM
I didn't mean to insult people outside the U.S. and everyone has the right to voice their opinion but I noticed that a lot of Europeans make baseless comments assuming that America is just like Europe. I'm an American but I lived in Europe, so I can tell you as someone with experience that European Socio-economic system is very different.  If you lived in America you would understand why I don't like Musk.  In Europe a guy like Musk would no be worth billions and rightfully so, that is all I gotta say.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on November 21, 2019, 07:13:00 PM
https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-starship-mark-1-explosion-overpressure-event-boca-chica-texas-2019-11?r=US&IR=T

Can that be anything else than Musk trying to cover his tracks?!
Tracks? ???

That was just the first prototype anyway.  They're working on two more prototypes in Florida as well.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/17/spacex-starts-construction-of-another-starship-rocket-in-florida.html
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 22, 2019, 01:28:56 AM
I didn't mean to insult people outside the U.S. and everyone has the right to voice their opinion but I noticed that a lot of Europeans make baseless comments assuming that America is just like Europe. I'm an American but I lived in Europe, so I can tell you as someone with experience that European Socio-economic system is very different.  If you lived in America you would understand why I don't like Musk.  In Europe a guy like Musk would no be worth billions and rightfully so, that is all I gotta say.
Well, yes. Europe might not be like the US, but it is pretty far from being a homogenous clump. But you know that as you lived here.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 22, 2019, 03:04:35 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50513294

Back to Cybertron, you Decepticon you!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 25, 2019, 03:40:20 PM
He just can't help himself can he?

There has been some speculation in this thread around how Elon Musk amassed the impossible amount of wealth he currently holds. There is no doubt that evil betrays itself, and once again Musk has done just this. In March he changed his name, as he oft does, this time to Elon Tusk. He has also taken upon the image of "Elon Tusk" in the popular heathen show "Rick and Morty."

Now you might ask, what is John on about this time? Everytime he changes his name it is due to dark and black magics.

In this case he was soliciting the help of the daemon babi ngepet. We hear of this beast in indonesian local folk lore. His power? In transforming oneself into the tusked beast, one can gain instant riches - at the cost of their humanity (something Musk cares little for as he intends to remove humanity and replace it with AI.) For the magick to work, he must take the form of the beast - in this case via the character Elon Tusk and changing his twitter name to Elon Tusk - garnering many to wonder what his aims were - even leading many to thinking he was making a deal with Warren Buffet.

Just another piece of evidence for the pile. If you were not convinced earlier, and still are not I'm afraid you lack the subjective and objective skills and any ability of reason for the devil stands before us today.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 25, 2019, 03:41:17 PM
For those who avoid satanic shows:
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 25, 2019, 03:43:41 PM
And the article from when he changed his name, claiming he was "just playing the fool."
https://time.com/5541819/elon-musk-elon-tusk-twitter/
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: New Earth on November 25, 2019, 03:48:23 PM
Of course, Elon Musk or Tusk are not even real names, his real name is the Devil.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Macarios on November 25, 2019, 04:15:04 PM
Those are just marketing tricks to draw attention.
He already sold 150 000 Cyber Trucks.
This thread also just gives him additional free advertisement.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on November 25, 2019, 06:50:19 PM
There has been some speculation in this thread around how Elon Musk amassed the impossible amount of wealth he currently holds.
What's impossible about the amount of wealth that Musk holds? ???
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 26, 2019, 03:39:08 AM
I did not know Musk has changed his name. News to me!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on November 26, 2019, 03:47:48 AM

He already sold 150 000 Cyber Trucks.

He hasn't sold any.  They don't even have a production line yet.  People just paid $100 to put their name down - it's just a marketing trick..
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Macarios on November 26, 2019, 04:29:24 AM

He already sold 150 000 Cyber Trucks.

He hasn't sold any.  They don't even have a production line yet.  People just paid $100 to put their name down - it's just a marketing trick..

Transactions haven't been concluded yet,
but that many people (even more by now)
already started their process of buying it.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on November 26, 2019, 05:53:07 AM

He already sold 150 000 Cyber Trucks.

He hasn't sold any.  They don't even have a production line yet.  People just paid $100 to put their name down - it's just a marketing trick..

Transactions haven't been concluded yet,
but that many people (even more by now)
already started their process of buying it.
It's a concept car that isn't anywhere near road legal.  Zero people have bought one.  Don't fall for the marketing bullshit.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 26, 2019, 05:55:50 AM
Actually, about the status of the production model: I've tried to look for information whether or not the one shown to us is "road legal" (I lack a better word)? Is it pedestrian safe in all markets what with all the safety regulations and such?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on November 26, 2019, 08:00:55 AM
Actually, about the status of the production model: I've tried to look for information whether or not the one shown to us is "road legal" (I lack a better word)? Is it pedestrian safe in all markets what with all the safety regulations and such?
It has quite a bit of stuff to sort out before it's legal.  Mirrors for starters (not allowed just cameras), the headlights, the steering wheel and probably a ton of other stuff.

No friggen pickup truck is "pedestrian safe" - which is why pedestrian deaths in the US have been steadily rising for years.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: FlatOrange on November 26, 2019, 10:25:07 AM
Actually, about the status of the production model: I've tried to look for information whether or not the one shown to us is "road legal" (I lack a better word)? Is it pedestrian safe in all markets what with all the safety regulations and such?
It has quite a bit of stuff to sort out before it's legal.  Mirrors for starters (not allowed just cameras), the headlights, the steering wheel and probably a ton of other stuff.

No friggen pickup truck is "pedestrian safe" - which is why pedestrian deaths in the US have been steadily rising for years.

Mirrors will be obsolete soon https://www.fenderbender.com/articles/13770-nhtsa-debates-cameras-replacing-car-mirrors
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on November 26, 2019, 10:35:14 AM
Maybe, but currently they are a legal requirement in most places.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: NotSoSkeptical on November 26, 2019, 10:45:56 AM
Actually, about the status of the production model: I've tried to look for information whether or not the one shown to us is "road legal" (I lack a better word)? Is it pedestrian safe in all markets what with all the safety regulations and such?
It has quite a bit of stuff to sort out before it's legal.  Mirrors for starters (not allowed just cameras), the headlights, the steering wheel and probably a ton of other stuff.

No friggen pickup truck is "pedestrian safe" - which is why pedestrian deaths in the US have been steadily rising for years.

Mirrors will be obsolete soon https://www.fenderbender.com/articles/13770-nhtsa-debates-cameras-replacing-car-mirrors

Doubt that.  Mirrors don't require power to work.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 26, 2019, 10:47:07 AM
Actually, about the status of the production model: I've tried to look for information whether or not the one shown to us is "road legal" (I lack a better word)? Is it pedestrian safe in all markets what with all the safety regulations and such?
It has quite a bit of stuff to sort out before it's legal.  Mirrors for starters (not allowed just cameras), the headlights, the steering wheel and probably a ton of other stuff.

No friggen pickup truck is "pedestrian safe" - which is why pedestrian deaths in the US have been steadily rising for years.
Oh yeah, it is missing mirrors. Did not know of the steering wheel as I’ve only seen pics of the body.

And had no idea the pedestrian deaths have gone up. Then again I am quite shielded from excessive amount of pickups here. But it makes sense. Can imagine how a body will react to an F-150 attack.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: NotSoSkeptical on November 26, 2019, 10:55:09 AM
Actually, about the status of the production model: I've tried to look for information whether or not the one shown to us is "road legal" (I lack a better word)? Is it pedestrian safe in all markets what with all the safety regulations and such?
It has quite a bit of stuff to sort out before it's legal.  Mirrors for starters (not allowed just cameras), the headlights, the steering wheel and probably a ton of other stuff.

No friggen pickup truck is "pedestrian safe" - which is why pedestrian deaths in the US have been steadily rising for years.
Oh yeah, it is missing mirrors. Did not know of the steering wheel as I’ve only seen pics of the body.

And had no idea the pedestrian deaths have gone up. Then again I am quite shielded from excessive amount of pickups here. But it makes sense. Can imagine how a body will react to an F-150 attack.

The number of trucks on the road has nothing to do with the number of pedestrians struck by vehicles.  There is no correlation.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Crutchwater on November 26, 2019, 11:05:18 AM
At 35 mph, there is no such thing an a "pedestrian safe" vehicle!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: NotSoSkeptical on November 26, 2019, 11:15:17 AM
A vehicle can kill you by going slower than that.  Just need one with sufficient weight to run you over.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 26, 2019, 11:27:07 AM
Please try to stay on topic. This thread is about Elon Musk, Mr. X, Tusk and his daemonic influences on the world.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 26, 2019, 11:28:36 AM
Cybertruck is one of them, isn’t it?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: NotSoSkeptical on November 26, 2019, 11:31:13 AM
Please try to stay on topic. This thread is about Elon Musk, Mr. X, Tusk and his daemonic influences on the world.

Did Elon Musk create your glasses?  They make you look possessed.  You should fix that before wise sees it.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 26, 2019, 11:33:53 AM
If Elon Musk invented glasses you would have to rip your eyes out to install them and put in his bioengineered ai powered eyeballs.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Macarios on November 26, 2019, 10:04:11 PM
Please try to stay on topic. This thread is about Elon Musk, Mr. X, Tusk and his daemonic influences on the world.

His "demonic influences" are shifting from environmentally toxic fossil fuels to electric vehicles,
and from human race stranded to a single planet to more independent one expanded through Space
and much less vulnerable to a single asteroid hitting Earth and erasing it.

With enough people out of the reach of centralised powers the personal liberties will much easier be preserved.
You don't have to fight for your freedom, just to change the planet, moon, asteroid, orbit, artificial habitat...

In many countries in the "old world" citizens are considered to be "property of the state" not the "members of the society". They are tricked into agreeing with inappropriate laws and used by elite. In some cases it is criminal elite. Advancing the condition for humans to be more free than now while promoting cleaner technologies doesn't look like "satanic work" to me.

Much more satanic would be insisting on status quo, with big oil companies polluting air and oceans, armies continuing to terrorizing people and religions still trying to trick them into obedience.

Facts are better than faith, knowledge is better than belief, action helps, prayers don't.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: MaNaeSWolf on November 26, 2019, 10:20:40 PM

His "demonic influences" are shifting from environmentally toxic fossil fuels to electric vehicles,
and from human race stranded to a single planet to more independent one expanded through Space
and much less vulnerable to a single asteroid hitting Earth and erasing it.

With enough people out of the reach of centralised powers the personal liberties will much easier be preserved.
You don't have to fight for your freedom, just to change the planet, moon, asteroid, orbit, artificial habitat...

In many countries in the "old world" citizens are considered to be "property of the state" not the "members of the society". They are tricked into agreeing with inappropriate laws and used by elite. In some cases it is criminal elite. Advancing the condition for humans to be more free than now while promoting cleaner technologies doesn't look like "satanic work" to me.

Much more satanic would be insisting on status quo, with big oil companies polluting air and oceans, armies continuing to terrorizing people and religions still trying to trick them into obedience.

Facts are better than faith, knowledge is better than belief, action helps, prayers don't.

Yeah, but he once called a guy a Pedo and was late with his model 3 deliveries, therefore he is Satan and a scammer.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet II on November 27, 2019, 03:05:50 AM
If Elon Musk invented glasses you would have to rip your eyes out to install them and put in his bioengineered ai powered eyeballs.

I have signed up for these, and requested an arm swap for a bank of rocket launchers.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on November 27, 2019, 04:06:27 AM
Actually, about the status of the production model: I've tried to look for information whether or not the one shown to us is "road legal" (I lack a better word)? Is it pedestrian safe in all markets what with all the safety regulations and such?
It has quite a bit of stuff to sort out before it's legal.  Mirrors for starters (not allowed just cameras), the headlights, the steering wheel and probably a ton of other stuff.

No friggen pickup truck is "pedestrian safe" - which is why pedestrian deaths in the US have been steadily rising for years.
Oh yeah, it is missing mirrors. Did not know of the steering wheel as I’ve only seen pics of the body.

And had no idea the pedestrian deaths have gone up. Then again I am quite shielded from excessive amount of pickups here. But it makes sense. Can imagine how a body will react to an F-150 attack.

The number of trucks on the road has nothing to do with the number of pedestrians struck by vehicles.  There is no correlation.
The number of people killed by vehicles, not struck.  Pedestrian fatalities in the U.S. have increased 41 percent since 2008.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: MaNaeSWolf on November 27, 2019, 04:42:00 AM
The number of people killed by vehicles, not struck.  Pedestrian fatalities in the U.S. have increased 41 percent since 2008.
Are there any hard numbers to show there is a relationship between trucks sold and pedestrian fatalities.
Genuinely curios.
Maybe its time large vehicles start installing airbags outside of the vehicle.
Maybe its time they include some automated braking systems in these monster machines
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on November 27, 2019, 06:39:49 AM
Well, and I do know this is not everybody, nor does it portray the whole of the US, but to me it is still awesomely stupid, and trve Americana:



Musk’s deloreanesque monstrosity could make that activity a tad less prevalent if it propagates.

I can only imagine how much fun it’d be to cycle, and get hit by one of those good ol’ boys. Yee-haw, motherfuckers!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on November 27, 2019, 08:53:03 AM
The number of people killed by vehicles, not struck.  Pedestrian fatalities in the U.S. have increased 41 percent since 2008.
Are there any hard numbers to show there is a relationship between trucks sold and pedestrian fatalities.
Genuinely curios.
Good article here:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/oct/03/collision-course-pedestrian-deaths-rising-driverless-cars (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/oct/03/collision-course-pedestrian-deaths-rising-driverless-cars)
Listen on podcast if you don't want to read.

It's not just trucks, it's SUVs as well (pedestrian deaths are up in UK as well and we don't have many trucks, but SUVs are everywhere)

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Maybe its time they include some automated braking systems in these monster machines
I suppose that is becoming the norm anyway.  It's interesting from the article how much scepticism there is amongst safety experts about such technology - I was quite surprised.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on November 27, 2019, 09:14:27 AM
Please try to stay on topic. This thread is about Elon Musk, Mr. X, Tusk and his daemonic influences on the world.

His "demonic influences" are shifting from environmentally toxic fossil fuels to electric vehicles,
and from human race stranded to a single planet to more independent one expanded through Space
and much less vulnerable to a single asteroid hitting Earth and erasing it.

With enough people out of the reach of centralised powers the personal liberties will much easier be preserved.
You don't have to fight for your freedom, just to change the planet, moon, asteroid, orbit, artificial habitat...
What rose colored glasses you must wear. Never the less, this thread is about him as the pseudokristophos. Not your pie in the sky rambling that seems to ignore the fact that imperialism exists.

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In many countries in the "old world" citizens are considered to be "property of the state" not the "members of the society". They are tricked into agreeing with inappropriate laws and used by elite. In some cases it is criminal elite. Advancing the condition for humans to be more free than now while promoting cleaner technologies doesn't look like "satanic work" to me.

Much more satanic would be insisting on status quo, with big oil companies polluting air and oceans, armies continuing to terrorizing people and religions still trying to trick them into obedience.

Facts are better than faith, knowledge is better than belief, action helps, prayers don't.
I'd like you to support your position that facts are better than faith (hopefully for you in another thread). It seems to me the whole of western culture has been built on articles of faith of one sort or another including the study of mathematics.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Macarios on November 27, 2019, 09:50:27 AM
Please try to stay on topic. This thread is about Elon Musk, Mr. X, Tusk and his daemonic influences on the world.

His "demonic influences" are shifting from environmentally toxic fossil fuels to electric vehicles,
and from human race stranded to a single planet to more independent one expanded through Space
and much less vulnerable to a single asteroid hitting Earth and erasing it.

With enough people out of the reach of centralised powers the personal liberties will much easier be preserved.
You don't have to fight for your freedom, just to change the planet, moon, asteroid, orbit, artificial habitat...
What rose colored glasses you must wear. Never the less, this thread is about him as the pseudokristophos. Not your pie in the sky rambling that seems to ignore the fact that imperialism exists.

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In many countries in the "old world" citizens are considered to be "property of the state" not the "members of the society". They are tricked into agreeing with inappropriate laws and used by elite. In some cases it is criminal elite. Advancing the condition for humans to be more free than now while promoting cleaner technologies doesn't look like "satanic work" to me.

Much more satanic would be insisting on status quo, with big oil companies polluting air and oceans, armies continuing to terrorizing people and religions still trying to trick them into obedience.

Facts are better than faith, knowledge is better than belief, action helps, prayers don't.
I'd like you to support your position that facts are better than faith (hopefully for you in another thread). It seems to me the whole of western culture has been built on articles of faith of one sort or another including the study of mathematics.

The whole?
Mathematics?
When you have 3 marbles and someone gives you 2 more, you will have 5.
Would those 5 marbles be faith, or fact? :)
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on November 27, 2019, 11:53:50 AM

His "demonic influences" are shifting from environmentally toxic fossil fuels to electric vehicles,
and from human race stranded to a single planet to more independent one expanded through Space
and much less vulnerable to a single asteroid hitting Earth and erasing it.

With enough people out of the reach of centralised powers the personal liberties will much easier be preserved.
You don't have to fight for your freedom, just to change the planet, moon, asteroid, orbit, artificial habitat...

In many countries in the "old world" citizens are considered to be "property of the state" not the "members of the society". They are tricked into agreeing with inappropriate laws and used by elite. In some cases it is criminal elite. Advancing the condition for humans to be more free than now while promoting cleaner technologies doesn't look like "satanic work" to me.

Much more satanic would be insisting on status quo, with big oil companies polluting air and oceans, armies continuing to terrorizing people and religions still trying to trick them into obedience.

Facts are better than faith, knowledge is better than belief, action helps, prayers don't.

Yeah, but he once called a guy a Pedo and was late with his model 3 deliveries, therefore he is Satan and a scammer.
He also makes money from NASA (and is late with crew Dragon), so...  yeah, Satan for sure.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on December 10, 2019, 07:33:34 AM
Elon needs more Satan. The upcoming roadster is the very definition of meh it comes to styling. How does he do it?!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Heavenly Breeze on December 10, 2019, 09:06:24 AM
Elon needs more Satan. The upcoming roadster is the very definition of meh it comes to styling. How does he do it?!

Santa Claus steers.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rabinoz on December 10, 2019, 02:22:59 PM
Elon needs more Satan. The upcoming roadster is the very definition of meh it comes to styling. How does he do it?!

Santa Claus steers.
И вам тоже очень счастливого Рождества, но не бросайте слишком много стаканов в камин!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on December 18, 2019, 12:25:00 AM
As I suspected earlier - rock city is a central point but now aged.

We must go to the point of the false eyes at the city of rock.

When the king blows his trumpet, gather,, Before it is too late.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on December 18, 2019, 03:43:32 AM
Detroit?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rabinoz on December 18, 2019, 03:51:56 AM
Detroit?
Graceland, Memphis surely!
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/hk2cqjut9lfhx0g/jailhouse_rock_by_tygertailzz.jpg?dl=1)
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on December 18, 2019, 08:33:33 AM
Could be, could be.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Space Cowgirl on December 23, 2019, 01:50:38 PM


Pure evil.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on January 14, 2020, 09:52:11 AM
More evidence for the pile;
https://sputniknews.com/us/202001141078030188-jeffrey-epstein-set-up-ex-girlfriend-with-elon-musks-brother-to-cosy-up-to-tesla-boss--report/
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Epstein reportedly introduced Musk to a woman from his entourage, and they dated from 2011 to 2012. It is understood that prior to hooking up with Musk, the woman lived in a Manhattan apartment building which Epstein used to house models and employees.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on January 14, 2020, 10:04:11 AM
More evidence for the pile;
https://sputniknews.com/us/202001141078030188-jeffrey-epstein-set-up-ex-girlfriend-with-elon-musks-brother-to-cosy-up-to-tesla-boss--report/
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Epstein reportedly introduced Musk to a woman from his entourage, and they dated from 2011 to 2012. It is understood that prior to hooking up with Musk, the woman lived in a Manhattan apartment building which Epstein used to house models and employees.

Evidence of what?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on January 14, 2020, 10:18:01 AM
That he is an agent of Satan no doubt.

Also - the SCG video was spot on. "If you can't beat it - join it."

"Its not like we'll have complete control of people's brains [immediately] ... it will take a long time"

It's apparently really important to Musk that we merge with AI.

He is going to start using us as the key. He tried to fight it, but since he can't he is going to fulfill the prophesies of the changing of the ages.

Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on January 14, 2020, 10:48:15 AM
That he is an agent of Satan no doubt.

Also - the SCG video was spot on. "If you can't beat it - join it."

"Its not like we'll have complete control of people's brains [immediately] ... it will take a long time"

It's apparently really important to Musk that we merge with AI.

He is going to start using us as the key. He tried to fight it, but since he can't he is going to fulfill the prophesies of the changing of the ages.

What prophesies are these?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on January 14, 2020, 11:03:27 AM
I would refer to your Bible sir, as well as the work of David Wardlaw Scott to get started in understanding the ages.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on January 14, 2020, 12:03:09 PM
I would refer to your Bible sir, as well as the work of David Wardlaw Scott to get started in understanding the ages.

I would refer you to what 'evidence' is. Just referencing an article about Musk's brother dating an Epstein associate and leaping to some sort of conclusion about scriptural prophesies being fulfilled by merely mentioning the Bible and an obscure turn of the last century forgotten author hardly seems like evidence of anything. You might want to pull the red yarn taut on your cork board conspiracy schematic in the basement and tighten the chin strap on your aluminum helmet before proceeding with unfounded allegations.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on January 14, 2020, 12:24:27 PM
You can find all the evidence you need of Elon Musk's demonic nature in this thread. I'd suggest you start from page 1.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on January 14, 2020, 12:26:18 PM
Its amazing to me people won't trust his own words when he says:
"With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon, You know all those stories where there's the guy with the pentagram and the holy water and he's like... yeah, he's sure he can control the demon, [but] it doesn't work out."

It's no wonder he would associate with the likes of Epstein who trades humans as goods.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Yes on January 14, 2020, 12:56:24 PM
Foundation of Evil
a play in one act

Dramatis personæ
Elon Musk . . . . . . Smart rich guy actively developing popular technology
John Davis  . . . . . Flat earth conspirator and/or replacement of the real John Davis

Act 1

Elon Musk:
    We must be careful of AI.  With it we may be unleashing a problem that will get out of control.

John Davis:
    Did you hear that?  Elon Musk wants to unleash a problem that will get out of control!

Fin.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rabinoz on January 14, 2020, 01:25:01 PM
Its amazing to me people won't trust his own words when he says:
"With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon, You know all those stories where there's the guy with the pentagram and the holy water and he's like... yeah, he's sure he can control the demon, [but] it doesn't work out."

It's no wonder he would associate with the likes of Epstein who trades humans as goods.
You seem to get the opposite of what I and others see of Elon Musk, not that I go for him as a person.
Quote from: Maureen Dowd
Elon Musk’s Billion-Dollar Crusade to STOP the A.I. Apocalypse (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/elon-musk-billion-dollar-crusade-to-stop-ai-space-x)
Elon Musk is famous for his futuristic gambles, but Silicon Valley’s latest rush to embrace artificial intelligence scares him. And he thinks you should be frightened too. Inside his efforts to influence the rapidly advancing field and its proponents, and to save humanity from machine-learning overlords.

I. Running Amok

It was just a friendly little argument about the fate of humanity. Demis Hassabis, a leading creator of advanced artificial intelligence, was chatting with Elon Musk, a leading doomsayer, about the perils of artificial intelligence.

They are two of the most consequential and intriguing men in Silicon Valley who don’t live there. Hassabis, a co-founder of the mysterious London laboratory DeepMind, had come to Musk’s SpaceX rocket factory, outside Los Angeles, a few years ago. They were in the canteen, talking, as a massive rocket part traversed overhead. Musk explained that his ultimate goal at SpaceX was the most important project in the world: interplanetary colonization.

Hassabis replied that, in fact, he was working on the most important project in the world: developing artificial super-intelligence. Musk countered that this was one reason we needed to colonize Mars—so that we’ll have a bolt-hole if A.I. goes rogue and turns on humanity. Amused, Hassabis said that A.I. would simply follow humans to Mars.

This did nothing to soothe Musk’s anxieties (even though he says there are scenarios where A.I. wouldn’t follow).
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
And Are Elon Musk's Warnings About AI Manipulating Social Media Coming True? (https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/341650)

I'd be more concerned with Jeff Bezos's attitude Why Jeff Bezos Isn't Afraid of Artificial Intelligence. (https://www.inc.com/kevin-j-ryan/jeff-bezos-doesnt-fear-artificial-intelligence.html)

The big concern is that any world-wide AI will end up being controlled by "someone" who then controls the World.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on January 14, 2020, 01:35:43 PM
Foundation of Evil
a play in one act

Dramatis personæ
Elon Musk . . . . . . Smart rich guy actively developing popular technology
John Davis  . . . . . Flat earth conspirator and/or replacement of the real John Davis

Act 1

Elon Musk:
    We must be careful of AI.  With it we may be unleashing a problem that will get out of control.

John Davis:
    Did you hear that?  Elon Musk wants to unleash a problem that will get out of control!

Fin.

He literally says in SCG video that he tried the approach you are saying he is taking and that it didn't work and that he instead opted to side with the old idiom "If you can't beat it - join it."
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Yes on January 14, 2020, 01:42:21 PM
One of his main motivations of Neuralink is to hypothetically allow humans to use AI symbiotically rather than be crushed by it.  I don't know if I agree with the approach, but that's what he means by join it.  And this isn't just my spin: he's put many millions of moneys where his mouth is, so to speak.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Stash on January 14, 2020, 02:28:18 PM
You can find all the evidence you need of Elon Musk's demonic nature in this thread. I'd suggest you start from page 1.

I went back through this thread and I'm not seeing any direct measurements of a demonic Musk. If you can't back up your belief aside from a modicum of coherency within it, then you might as well be writing gibberish.

These need to be shown before one can accept the claim that indirect measurements are accurate, as well as a direct measurement to confirm the indirect. This has all been a huge exercise in 'correlation does not imply cause.'

You have shown very little correlation. You have not shown any cause, or any direct measurement to support what little correlation you muster.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on January 15, 2020, 02:12:15 PM
Direct measurement is not necessary in this case. This isn't a hard science. Secondly, he has admitted he is indeed in league with demons. Third, the coherency of the argument is beyond any attempt so far by skeptics to even suffer the mildest scratch.

One of his main motivations of Neuralink is to hypothetically allow humans to use AI symbiotically rather than be crushed by it.  I don't know if I agree with the approach, but that's what he means by join it.  And this isn't just my spin: he's put many millions of moneys where his mouth is, so to speak.
Yes, I agree that the approach makes no sense. You think he would have concocted a better cover story, but he is quite egotistical. Greater men have fallen for less.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: markjo on January 15, 2020, 03:23:37 PM
You can find all the evidence you need of Elon Musk's demonic nature in this thread.
What makes you an authority on recognizing demonic nature in people?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Crutchwater on January 15, 2020, 10:02:56 PM
You can find all the evidence you need of Elon Musk's demonic nature in this thread.
What makes you an authority on recognizing demonic nature in people?

For that matter, what exactly IS a demon?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Twerp on January 15, 2020, 10:35:56 PM
You can find all the evidence you need of Elon Musk's demonic nature in this thread.
What makes you an authority on recognizing demonic nature in people?

For that matter, what exactly IS a demon?
This (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/demon)
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on May 16, 2020, 09:37:56 PM
Just saying called it. X
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on May 16, 2020, 09:39:42 PM
It's odd how your positive order leads you along a path, to disagree. I'm not so sure your orthodox brings you home to Truth - are you?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on May 16, 2020, 09:40:43 PM
And no, its demon with an ae.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on May 16, 2020, 10:15:30 PM
X - of course the sign of and rune we all know.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on May 16, 2020, 10:16:35 PM
It's okay I'll walk you guys through the last signs.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: SomeDutchGuy on May 17, 2020, 04:33:32 AM
It's okay I'll walk you guys through the last signs.

I admit, the name of his kid is kinda odd... I do not believe in supernatural stuff but still, odd.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: wise on May 17, 2020, 09:11:55 AM
Frankly, this possiblity increases. Even so I have confuse on which one worse of either John's boat or Devil's Musk. Ahahaha.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on May 25, 2020, 12:09:04 AM
https://www.space.com/nasa-spacex-crew-dragon-demo-2-launch-this-week.html (https://www.space.com/nasa-spacex-crew-dragon-demo-2-launch-this-week.html)

Interesting!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: John Davis on May 26, 2020, 10:46:21 PM
Just saying I did call it.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on May 26, 2020, 11:33:58 PM
That you might well have done, but has it been a big secret a manned flight was planned?

Or am I missing something here, John?
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: wise on May 27, 2020, 01:28:03 AM
I notified these friends to the apartment management that there should be nothing other than common satellite antennas on our terrace, which is a common area. If I do not get a result, I will complain to the municipal police.

(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/BkjeFhkQaDTADprBL9gzRR-650-80.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: rvlvr on May 27, 2020, 03:57:19 AM
The bastards!

You should call the OKK to get rid of it with extreme prejudice.
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: Crutchwater on May 27, 2020, 07:11:08 AM
I notified these friends to the apartment management that there should be nothing other than common satellite antennas on our terrace, which is a common area. If I do not get a result, I will complain to the municipal police.

(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/BkjeFhkQaDTADprBL9gzRR-650-80.jpg)

When did you move to Hawthorne, CA?

Looks like nice weather!
Title: Re: Elon Reeves Musk: Agent of Satan; Foundation of Evil
Post by: wise on May 27, 2020, 01:40:49 PM
I notified these friends to the apartment management that there should be nothing other than common satellite antennas on our terrace, which is a common area. If I do not get a result, I will complain to the municipal police.

(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/BkjeFhkQaDTADprBL9gzRR-650-80.jpg)

When did you move to Hawthorne, CA?

Looks like nice weather!
Is everything okay?