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Title: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 19, 2019, 01:10:36 AM
What's the big deal with Tulsi Gabbard? 

Hillary Clinton claims she is being groomed by the Russians as a 3rd candidate spoiler.   Sort of a Jill Stein 2020.



Gabbard Fires Back



https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1185289626409406464

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Lorddave on October 19, 2019, 01:33:05 AM
If Hillary says it, would conservatives assume its a lie?
But what if Hillary is only saying it so you assume she's lying and do the opposite?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Crouton on October 19, 2019, 01:46:07 AM
Preposterous.  Hillary really needs to stick to suiciding people with her bare hands.  This whole politician thing just isn't her wheelhouse.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 19, 2019, 02:31:37 AM
This whole politician thing just isn't her wheelhouse.

I would say not her bailiwick.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 19, 2019, 02:32:53 AM
Preposterous.  Hillary really needs to stick to suiciding people with her bare hands.  This whole politician thing just isn't her wheelhouse.

Meh?  It makes a change from eating babies in some debauched pizza rituals...   Oh damn, I forgot to mention emails...   

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 19, 2019, 03:30:05 AM

Oh damn, I forgot to mention emails...   

That's OK, it's the adrenaline.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Lorddave on October 19, 2019, 04:24:36 AM
Preposterous.  Hillary really needs to stick to suiciding people with her bare hands.  This whole politician thing just isn't her wheelhouse.

Meh?  It makes a change from eating babies in some debauched pizza rituals...   Oh damn, I forgot to mention emails...   

Deleting emails about eating babies in some debauched pizza rituals.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: The Real Celine Dion on October 19, 2019, 06:36:53 AM
How does someone suicide themselves twice in the back of the head then walk up a hill?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 19, 2019, 07:22:00 AM
I don't think Tulsi Gabbard has a chance in the primaries, but I like her.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 19, 2019, 10:32:45 AM
Can't Hillary just disappear already?

I don't really like Tulsi and she has a pretty scary record of supporting awful stuff, but she is better than most other candidates. Probably the 3rd best one.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 19, 2019, 06:20:29 PM
Something is definitely weird about the way thousands of russian bots are flooding twitter with support for Tulsi Gabbard. 

Maybe Hillary has some inside info?   

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Lorddave on October 20, 2019, 12:43:32 AM
Something is definitely weird about the way thousands of russian bots are flooding twitter with support for Tulsi Gabbard. 

Maybe Hillary has some inside info?

Or she's not stupid.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 20, 2019, 01:54:53 AM
Sigh. I knew Russiagate would fry the brains of people eventually.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 20, 2019, 03:14:08 AM
Sigh. I knew Russiagate would fry the brains of people eventually.

LOL, Sorry about your brain getting fried.  You can blame the Russians for that.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 20, 2019, 06:59:32 AM
It's not that weird. They know people are going to do exactly what they are doing. They know it is easy to sow suspicion. Now everyone is talking about whether or not Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset, or a GOP mole. They could have chosen any candidate, and used whatever they talk about, then we'd think that one is being promoted by Russia and we'd be trying to figure out why.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 20, 2019, 07:16:53 AM
Oh lord. I guess her father was a politician and campaigned against same sex marriage https://twitter.com/dilemmv/status/1185573525085708293?s=20
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Crouton on October 20, 2019, 07:39:14 AM
I don't know all of her positions.  But from the way she talks she sort of feels like a moderate Republican.  Not to the point that I'd call her a Republican mole.  But I almost feel that she's running in the wrong primary.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Lorddave on October 20, 2019, 07:52:37 AM
I don't know all of her positions.  But from the way she talks she sort of feels like a moderate Republican.  Not to the point that I'd call her a Republican mole.  But I almost feel that she's running in the wrong primary.

Maybe Bop can vote for her?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 20, 2019, 09:14:01 AM
I welcome our moderate Republican overlords.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Lorddave on October 20, 2019, 09:33:02 AM
I welcome our moderate Republican overlords.

I would too if it meant no more Trump.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 20, 2019, 01:58:18 PM
Oh lord. I guess her father was a politician and campaigned against same sex marriage https://twitter.com/dilemmv/status/1185573525085708293?s=20
Yes, that's why I said she has supported some terrible shit. Supposedly she's out of that cult now but she can't really be trusted. Nothing to do with Russia though.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 20, 2019, 01:59:00 PM
Sigh. I knew Russiagate would fry the brains of people eventually.

LOL, Sorry about your brain getting fried.  You can blame the Russians for that.
Seems like you can blame the Russians for everything...
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 20, 2019, 02:01:43 PM
It's not that weird. They know people are going to do exactly what they are doing. They know it is easy to sow suspicion. Now everyone is talking about whether or not Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset, or a GOP mole. They could have chosen any candidate, and used whatever they talk about, then we'd think that one is being promoted by Russia and we'd be trying to figure out why.
Tulsi is one of the most anti-war candidates. They're trying to frame being anti war as being influenced by Russia or whatever. If they wanted to talk about Tulsi's suspicious foreign connections they'd talk about her weird links with hindu nationalists.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 20, 2019, 02:02:30 PM
Oh lord. I guess her father was a politician and campaigned against same sex marriage https://twitter.com/dilemmv/status/1185573525085708293?s=20
Yes, that's why I said she has supported some terrible shit. Supposedly she's out of that cult now but she can't really be trusted. Nothing to do with Russia though.

She was a kid when that video was made. I wouldn't trust her father, but I won't hold her responsible for the things he did.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 20, 2019, 02:05:03 PM
Oh lord. I guess her father was a politician and campaigned against same sex marriage https://twitter.com/dilemmv/status/1185573525085708293?s=20
Yes, that's why I said she has supported some terrible shit. Supposedly she's out of that cult now but she can't really be trusted. Nothing to do with Russia though.

She was a kid when that video was made. I wouldn't trust her father, but I won't hold her responsible for the things he did.
No, but she campaigned for that sort of stuff up to her early twenties.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 20, 2019, 02:07:53 PM
Most of the big name Democrats, including Hillary, did not support same sex marriage. They weren't so weird about it, though. lol

IT'S JUST LIKE MARRYING MY DOG OR MY SON.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 20, 2019, 02:11:18 PM
Most of the big name Democrats, including Hillary, did not support same sex marriage. They weren't so weird about it, though. lol

IT'S JUST LIKE MARRYING MY DOG OR MY SON.
I know, I don't trust them either.

But yeah, she's not as bad as most other candidates but she has supported some pretty shitty stuff.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 20, 2019, 04:59:07 PM
Most of the big name Democrats, including Hillary, did not support same sex marriage. They weren't so weird about it, though. lol

IT'S JUST LIKE MARRYING MY DOG OR MY SON.

For them that equates to same sex?   

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 20, 2019, 05:06:59 PM
Sigh. I knew Russiagate would fry the brains of people eventually.

LOL, Sorry about your brain getting fried.  You can blame the Russians for that.
Seems like you can blame the Russians for everything...

So says the guy who couldn't understand what Putin got out of the US withdrawal from Syria.

In any case,  maybe Tulsi Gabbard doesn't want the Russian support she is getting, but why run to Tucker Carlson?  And why are the Russian attrack bots swarming in her favour?

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/2/1831680/-Tulsi-Gabbard-wins-Endorsement-from-Russia

Not to mention that trying for a job with the Trump Administration is not going to be popular with democrats.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/21/politics/gabbard-trump-transition/index.html
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 20, 2019, 06:04:46 PM
Most of the big name Democrats, including Hillary, did not support same sex marriage. They weren't so weird about it, though. lol

IT'S JUST LIKE MARRYING MY DOG OR MY SON.

For them that equates to same sex?   



The video in this tweet is probably on youtube, but I can't find it https://twitter.com/dilemmv/status/1185573525085708293?s=20  It's her father's insane commercial against same sex marriage. I don't know what year it was made but it looks early 2000s or end of the 90s.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 20, 2019, 06:41:40 PM
Most of the big name Democrats, including Hillary, did not support same sex marriage. They weren't so weird about it, though. lol

IT'S JUST LIKE MARRYING MY DOG OR MY SON.

For them that equates to same sex?   



The video in this tweet is probably on youtube, but I can't find it https://twitter.com/dilemmv/status/1185573525085708293?s=20  It's her father's insane commercial against same sex marriage. I don't know what year it was made but it looks early 2000s or end of the 90s.

Ok,  so she was raised in a cult,  no wonder she's a bit weird.

https://culteducation.com/group/1298-science-of-identity/34949-tulsi-gabbard-had-a-very-strange-childhood-which-may-help-explain-why-she-s-out-of-place-in-today-s-democratic-party-and-her-long-shot-2020-candidacy.html
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 20, 2019, 10:05:49 PM
So says the guy who couldn't understand what Putin got out of the US withdrawal from Syria.
You didn't seem to know very well what he got from Erdogan being allowed to invade Syria either, you retroactively decided it's "exactly what he wants" because it happened.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 20, 2019, 10:15:59 PM
So says the guy who couldn't understand what Putin got out of the US withdrawal from Syria.
You didn't seem to know very well what he got from Erdogan being allowed to invade Syria either, you retroactively decided it's "exactly what he wants" because it happened.

Seems you still don't get it.  He got bugger all from Erdogan invading Syria.   Try actually reading what I wrote.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 21, 2019, 04:58:28 AM
So says the guy who couldn't understand what Putin got out of the US withdrawal from Syria.
You didn't seem to know very well what he got from Erdogan being allowed to invade Syria either, you retroactively decided it's "exactly what he wants" because it happened.

Seems you still don't get it.  He got bugger all from Erdogan invading Syria.   Try actually reading what I wrote.
You wrote something false so I just assumed you meant something different.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 21, 2019, 06:57:05 AM
So says the guy who couldn't understand what Putin got out of the US withdrawal from Syria.
You didn't seem to know very well what he got from Erdogan being allowed to invade Syria either, you retroactively decided it's "exactly what he wants" because it happened.

Seems you still don't get it.  He got bugger all from Erdogan invading Syria.   Try actually reading what I wrote.
You wrote something false so I just assumed you meant something different.

I guess now I'm supposed to guess what it was that you think I wrote that was false,  I'm not going to play that game.  I'll just leave you to your assumptions.

Meanwhile back on the campaign trail, 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/us/politics/tulsi-gabbard.html

LOL Daily Stormer is taking credit for her getting into the first two primary debates?   Mommy?  WTF?

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Then there is 4chan, the notoriously toxic online message board, where some right-wing trolls and anti-Semites fawn over Ms. Gabbard, calling her “Mommy” and praising her willingness to criticize Israel. In April, the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website, took credit for Ms. Gabbard’s qualification for the first two Democratic primary debates.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on October 21, 2019, 08:28:30 AM
Can't Hillary just disappear already?

I don't really like Tulsi and she has a pretty scary record of supporting awful stuff, but she is better than most other candidates. Probably the 3rd best one.
Considering your woeful definitions of awful and scary, one could almost decide to vote for Tulsi and be assured of making the right choice.

Scary stuff...coming from someone who lives in Greece...laughable.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on October 21, 2019, 08:33:08 AM
Sigh. I knew Russiagate would fry the brains of people eventually.

LOL, Sorry about your brain getting fried.  You can blame the Russians for that.
Seems like you can blame the Russians for everything...

So says the guy who couldn't understand what Putin got out of the US withdrawal from Syria.

In any case,  maybe Tulsi Gabbard doesn't want the Russian support she is getting, but why run to Tucker Carlson?  And why are the Russian attrack bots swarming in her favour?

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/2/1831680/-Tulsi-Gabbard-wins-Endorsement-from-Russia

Not to mention that trying for a job with the Trump Administration is not going to be popular with democrats.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/21/politics/gabbard-trump-transition/index.html
Some definitive evidence she is a Russian backed provocateur please.

I mean, we have definitive evidence that you are an Australian shitbag provocateur...
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 21, 2019, 12:27:58 PM
So says the guy who couldn't understand what Putin got out of the US withdrawal from Syria.
You didn't seem to know very well what he got from Erdogan being allowed to invade Syria either, you retroactively decided it's "exactly what he wants" because it happened.

Seems you still don't get it.  He got bugger all from Erdogan invading Syria.   Try actually reading what I wrote.
You wrote something false so I just assumed you meant something different.

I guess now I'm supposed to guess what it was that you think I wrote that was false,  I'm not going to play that game.  I'll just leave you to your assumptions.

So says the guy who couldn't understand what Putin got out of the US withdrawal from Syria.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 21, 2019, 05:00:01 PM

Some definitive evidence she is a Russian backed provocateur please.


She might be an unwitting dupe,  but the Kremlin loves her for some reason.  It might be her known pro Assad views, or possibly her cult's homophobic views.

So, how about you explain why the Russians are supporting her?



I mean, we have definitive evidence that you are an Australian shitbag provocateur...

Yep,  it's an Australian tradition, and proud of it. 
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Lorddave on October 22, 2019, 01:10:09 AM
Sigh. I knew Russiagate would fry the brains of people eventually.

LOL, Sorry about your brain getting fried.  You can blame the Russians for that.
Seems like you can blame the Russians for everything...

So says the guy who couldn't understand what Putin got out of the US withdrawal from Syria.

In any case,  maybe Tulsi Gabbard doesn't want the Russian support she is getting, but why run to Tucker Carlson?  And why are the Russian attrack bots swarming in her favour?

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/2/1831680/-Tulsi-Gabbard-wins-Endorsement-from-Russia

Not to mention that trying for a job with the Trump Administration is not going to be popular with democrats.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/21/politics/gabbard-trump-transition/index.html
Some definitive evidence she is a Russian backed provocateur please.

I mean, we have definitive evidence that you are an Australian shitbag provocateur...

So Hillary Clinton was right.  Funny, and here I thought she was a liar and in Putin's pocket or something.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on October 22, 2019, 03:32:38 AM

Some definitive evidence she is a Russian backed provocateur please.


She might be an unwitting dupe,  but the Kremlin loves her for some reason.  It might be her known pro Assad views, or possibly her cult's homophobic views.

So, how about you explain why the Russians are supporting her?
The Kremlin loves her?

The Russians are supporting her?

Hmmm...where do you derive this mystical knowledge?



I mean, we have definitive evidence that you are an Australian shitbag provocateur...

Yep,  it's an Australian tradition, and proud of it.
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Okay.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on October 22, 2019, 03:43:35 AM
Sigh. I knew Russiagate would fry the brains of people eventually.

LOL, Sorry about your brain getting fried.  You can blame the Russians for that.
Seems like you can blame the Russians for everything...

So says the guy who couldn't understand what Putin got out of the US withdrawal from Syria.

In any case,  maybe Tulsi Gabbard doesn't want the Russian support she is getting, but why run to Tucker Carlson?  And why are the Russian attrack bots swarming in her favour?

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/2/1831680/-Tulsi-Gabbard-wins-Endorsement-from-Russia

Not to mention that trying for a job with the Trump Administration is not going to be popular with democrats.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/21/politics/gabbard-trump-transition/index.html
Some definitive evidence she is a Russian backed provocateur please.

I mean, we have definitive evidence that you are an Australian shitbag provocateur...

So Hillary Clinton was right.
That's rich.

Since when has Hillary Clinton ever been right?
Funny, and here I thought she was a liar and in Putin's pocket or something.
I think if you perform a cursory Google search, you will discover multiple instances of Hillary/Vladimir shady interactions.

On the other hand, you will find ZERO instances of Gabbard/Putin interactions, and only a couple of trump/Putin interactions.

This whole thing is simply an attempt to get a more progressive, shitbag numbskull, brainless electorate so the status quo can keep power.

It's working.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 22, 2019, 05:13:28 AM

The Russians are supporting her?

Hmmm...where do you derive this mystical knowledge?


The Russians mostly.
 
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on October 22, 2019, 08:30:12 AM

The Russians are supporting her?

Hmmm...where do you derive this mystical knowledge?


The Russians mostly.
Cool!

Let's have a direct look at this Russian generated information!

I mean, Clinton could not produce it...surely we all trust you have a more direct line to that sourcing than does Clinton.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 22, 2019, 09:13:48 AM
The Democrats will be able to blame Tulsi and the Russians if they lose in 2020, which means they won't have to examine their platforms, or pandering.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 22, 2019, 04:46:22 PM

The Russians are supporting her?

Hmmm...where do you derive this mystical knowledge?


The Russians mostly.
Cool!

Let's have a direct look at this Russian generated information!

I mean, Clinton could not produce it...surely we all trust you have a more direct line to that sourcing than does Clinton.


Try a little experiment.  ( suggested by someone on twitter )

If you don’t think #TulsiGabbard is Russia’s Jill Stein, say something negative about her on her page, count to 10 & watch all the Russian bots & Trump trolls rise from the underworld & swarm all over you with misspelled vitriol.

I rest my case
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on October 23, 2019, 03:33:21 AM

The Russians are supporting her?

Hmmm...where do you derive this mystical knowledge?


The Russians mostly.
Cool!

Let's have a direct look at this Russian generated information!

I mean, Clinton could not produce it...surely we all trust you have a more direct line to that sourcing than does Clinton.


Try a little experiment.  ( suggested by someone on twitter )

If you don’t think #TulsiGabbard is Russia’s Jill Stein, say something negative about her on her page, count to 10 & watch all the Russian bots & Trump trolls rise from the underworld & swarm all over you with misspelled vitriol.

I rest my case
How do you know they are Russian bots?

These swarming accounts rise up and proclaim, "Proud Russian bot here and I want to state for the record..."?

Or, again, you have the ability to track the account?

Come on...

Still holding on to the RussiaGate crap?

Rest your case, my ass...you never had a case to begin with...
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 23, 2019, 04:09:24 AM

Still holding on to the RussiaGate crap?


Yep.   

Are you still thinking Trump isn't a corrupt con-man?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on October 23, 2019, 04:42:55 AM

Still holding on to the RussiaGate crap?


Yep.   

Are you still thinking Trump isn't a corrupt con-man?
My depth of thinking regarding Trump's status as a con man remains the same as it was when Hillary was taking his donated money.

Now, about that rested case you were trumpeting?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 23, 2019, 03:47:15 PM
My depth of thinking regarding Trump's status as a con man remains the same as it was when Hillary was taking his donated money.

LOL,  I can believe part of that.

Now, about that rested case you were trumpeting?

Did you try the experiment I suggested?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 24, 2019, 12:12:36 PM
She might be an unwitting dupe,  but the Kremlin loves her for some reason.  It might be her known pro Assad views, or possibly her cult's homophobic views.

She doesn't have "pro Assad views", it's just that every time someone doesn't say "Assad personally strangled 10 billion americans with his hands which is why we have to bomb Syria to the ground", US media decides it's "pro Assad" and that you're clearly a Russian agent which is a very cool and normal thing to just accept without question, it definitely doesn't contribute to prolonging endless wars and causing immense suffering while bordering on racist.

Not to mention that if the democrats keep deflecting to Russia they're never gonna be able to improve any of their own shortcomings. This obsession will be their downfall again.

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So, how about you explain why the Russians are supporting her?

That's something you came up with. Well, you and Clinton. But it's not exactly set in stone. I imagine if she actually does have sympathy from Russia it's because her foreign policy isn't rabidly anti-everyone, which does benefit Russia.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 24, 2019, 04:55:07 PM
She might be an unwitting dupe,  but the Kremlin loves her for some reason.  It might be her known pro Assad views, or possibly her cult's homophobic views.

She doesn't have "pro Assad views", it's just that every time someone doesn't say "Assad personally strangled 10 billion americans with his hands which is why we have to bomb Syria to the ground", US media decides it's "pro Assad" and that you're clearly a Russian agent which is a very cool and normal thing to just accept without question, it definitely doesn't contribute to prolonging endless wars and causing immense suffering while bordering on racist.

Not to mention that if the democrats keep deflecting to Russia they're never gonna be able to improve any of their own shortcomings. This obsession will be their downfall again.


Wow, Assad personally strangled 10 billion Americans?   

Has anyone ever taken the time to explain to you that Reductio ad absurdum is not usually considered a valid argument.   The world is never black and white,  there are shades of grey.

Anyway,  perhaps you have an explanation of why she visited Assad in early 2017,  and why she had refused to condemn the Assad regime atrocities,  and voted against an anti-Assad house resolution.   



That's something you came up with. Well, you and Clinton. But it's not exactly set in stone. I imagine if she actually does have sympathy from Russia it's because her foreign policy isn't rabidly anti-everyone, which does benefit Russia.

Nope, the evidence of Russian a sophisticated wide spread targetted social media campaign is in plain sight.  ( if you choose to look)

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 24, 2019, 11:52:25 PM

. . . the evidence of Russian a sophisticated wide spread targetted social media campaign is in plain sight.

Why do you believe you are the only dork on the planet that has this figured out?
EVERYONE tries to influence you.

Instead of continuously complaining about what you imagine,
try presenting solutions.   


 :D
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 25, 2019, 12:06:54 AM

. . . the evidence of Russian a sophisticated wide spread targetted social media campaign is in plain sight.

Why do you believe you are the only dork on the planet that has this figured out?
EVERYONE tries to influence you.

Instead of continuously complaining about what you imagine,
try presenting solutions.   


 :D

I suspect you are trying to influence me.  LOL 

My solution,  which I've presented before involves beer and fishing.  Don't fight it.

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 25, 2019, 01:23:20 AM

. . . the evidence of Russian a sophisticated wide spread targetted social media campaign is in plain sight.

Why do you believe you are the only dork on the planet that has this figured out?
EVERYONE tries to influence you.

Instead of continuously complaining about what you imagine,
try presenting solutions.   


 :D

I suspect you are trying to influence me.  LOL 

My solution,  which I've presented before involves beer and fishing.  Don't fight it.


Beer and fishing is a way of life.
Who cares what other people think?
Are you not capable of thinking for your self?
Why would you abdicate your responsibility to think for your self
in deference to some TV personality you love?

You are caught up in a game of someone sez.



. . . and don't knock fishing, the Jesus was involved with fish.   ;D
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 25, 2019, 01:53:02 AM
She might be an unwitting dupe,  but the Kremlin loves her for some reason.  It might be her known pro Assad views, or possibly her cult's homophobic views.

She doesn't have "pro Assad views", it's just that every time someone doesn't say "Assad personally strangled 10 billion americans with his hands which is why we have to bomb Syria to the ground", US media decides it's "pro Assad" and that you're clearly a Russian agent which is a very cool and normal thing to just accept without question, it definitely doesn't contribute to prolonging endless wars and causing immense suffering while bordering on racist.

Not to mention that if the democrats keep deflecting to Russia they're never gonna be able to improve any of their own shortcomings. This obsession will be their downfall again.


Wow, Assad personally strangled 10 billion Americans?   

Has anyone ever taken the time to explain to you that Reductio ad absurdum is not usually considered a valid argument.   The world is never black and white,  there are shades of grey.

Anyway,  perhaps you have an explanation of why she visited Assad in early 2017,  and why she had refused to condemn the Assad regime atrocities,  and voted against an anti-Assad house resolution.   



That's something you came up with. Well, you and Clinton. But it's not exactly set in stone. I imagine if she actually does have sympathy from Russia it's because her foreign policy isn't rabidly anti-everyone, which does benefit Russia.

Nope, the evidence of Russian a sophisticated wide spread targetted social media campaign is in plain sight.  ( if you choose to look)
Between you, Shifter, Rab and D1 the evidence of a wide spread targeted social media campaign by Australians is in plain sight, if you chose to look.

I guess when politicians meet other politicians it's clearly because they support them. Which is how we know Trump supports both Putin, Jinping, and Kim Jong Un. Oh wait, you probably actually believe that.

The chaos in Syria right now is largely because the US tried to stir up shit to overthrow Assad. Keeping up this aggressive policy will only serve to create more chaos and acting as though trying to tone it down is supporting Assad or Putin or whatever is not just wrong, it's dangerous. I wonder why people are shitting on Tulsi for "supporting" Assad instead of shitting on her for actually supporting Modi, who is also a criminal. Oh right, because that doesn't go against the policy of wreaking havoc in the middle east...
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 25, 2019, 03:18:43 AM
. . . and don't knock fishing, the Jesus was involved with fish.   ;D

Amen brother,  can I have a hallelujah.   I ignore the other shit you sometimes spout,  but when you talk sense,  I'm there!

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 25, 2019, 03:26:19 AM
. . . and don't knock fishing, the Jesus was involved with fish.   ;D

Amen brother,  can I have a hallelujah.   I ignore the other shit you sometimes spout,  but when you talk sense,  I'm there!

Best thing is - people read us and have no clue why or how we can laugh at ourselves.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 25, 2019, 03:30:47 AM
The chaos in Syria right now is largely because the US tried to stir up shit to overthrow Assad. Keeping up this aggressive policy will only serve to create more chaos and acting as though trying to tone it down is supporting Assad or Putin or whatever is not just wrong, it's dangerous. I wonder why people are shitting on Tulsi for "supporting" Assad instead of shitting on her for actually supporting Modi, who is also a criminal. Oh right, because that doesn't go against the policy of wreaking havoc in the middle east...

No the chaos in Syria is due to multiple factors,  mostly the Assad regime's brutal put down of the Arab spring uprising,  which led to a rebellion which has been hijacked by factional groups and jihadi extremists like ISIS, Al Nusra,  and a zillion others,  including the Kurds,  Americans, Russians, Iranians and now the Turks.

The Russian supported Assad regime has been guilty of the most extreme human rights abuses.  They rightly deserve condemnation which Tulsi Gabbard has refused to do.

Why?



Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 25, 2019, 04:01:19 AM
No the chaos in Syria is due to multiple factors,  mostly the Assad regime's brutal put down of the Arab spring uprising,  which led to a rebellion which has been hijacked by factional groups and jihadi extremists like ISIS, Al Nusra,  and a zillion others,  including the Kurds,  Americans, Russians, Iranians and now the Turks.
I wonder who supported and funded said groups.

Besides, Syria didn't pop into existence 10 years ago. Neither did the US policy of sparking conflict in Syria which started with Kissinger.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 25, 2019, 05:22:17 AM
Besides, Syria didn't pop into existence 10 years ago. Neither did the US policy of sparking conflict in Syria which started with Kissinger.

My father was in Syria during WW2, fighting the Vichy French.   Don't tell me this is something new you just discovered.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 25, 2019, 08:32:19 AM
Besides, Syria didn't pop into existence 10 years ago. Neither did the US policy of sparking conflict in Syria which started with Kissinger.

My father was in Syria during WW2, fighting the Vichy French.   Don't tell me this is something new you just discovered.
I don't understand the point of this post.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 25, 2019, 08:42:01 AM
Besides, Syria didn't pop into existence 10 years ago. Neither did the US policy of sparking conflict in Syria which started with Kissinger.

My father was in Syria during WW2, fighting the Vichy French.   Don't tell me this is something new you just discovered.
I don't understand the point of this post.

History is older than you.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 25, 2019, 08:47:41 AM
Besides, Syria didn't pop into existence 10 years ago. Neither did the US policy of sparking conflict in Syria which started with Kissinger.

My father was in Syria during WW2, fighting the Vichy French.   Don't tell me this is something new you just discovered.
I don't understand the point of this post.

History is older than you.
Alright so?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Bullwinkle on October 25, 2019, 09:49:55 AM
Besides, Syria didn't pop into existence 10 years ago. Neither did the US policy of sparking conflict in Syria which started with Kissinger.

My father was in Syria during WW2, fighting the Vichy French.   Don't tell me this is something new you just discovered.
I don't understand the point of this post.

History is older than you.

Alright so?

You are right, you've read several paragraphs of something that someone wrote.
Then you took a test.
Now you know everything there is to know.

School is where you waste time learning what others have done.
Work is when you do shit that has not been done before.

 ::)
 

When you age out of school what will you be qualified to do?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 25, 2019, 03:49:54 PM
Besides, Syria didn't pop into existence 10 years ago. Neither did the US policy of sparking conflict in Syria which started with Kissinger.

My father was in Syria during WW2, fighting the Vichy French.   Don't tell me this is something new you just discovered.
I don't understand the point of this post.

Add it to the myriad things which have eluded your comprehension. 

Syria has a history of foreign military involvement.  It didn't start with Kissinger. 

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 26, 2019, 09:30:06 AM
Besides, Syria didn't pop into existence 10 years ago. Neither did the US policy of sparking conflict in Syria which started with Kissinger.

My father was in Syria during WW2, fighting the Vichy French.   Don't tell me this is something new you just discovered.
I don't understand the point of this post.

History is older than you.

Alright so?

You are right, you've read several paragraphs of something that someone wrote.
Then you took a test.
Now you know everything there is to know.

School is where you waste time learning what others have done.
Work is when you do shit that has not been done before.

 ::)
 

When you age out of school what will you be qualified to do?
Can you at least attempt to make an actual point?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 26, 2019, 09:30:42 AM
Syria has a history of foreign military involvement.  It didn't start with Kissinger.
Can you read? Why don't you read again what I wrote in that post?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 26, 2019, 09:45:09 AM
Hint:

Besides, Syria didn't pop into existence 10 years ago. Neither did the US policy of sparking conflict in Syria which started with Kissinger.

Do you see anything here about "foreign military involvement" here? Do you see anything relevant to France or your dad here?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 26, 2019, 04:02:51 PM
Hint:

Besides, Syria didn't pop into existence 10 years ago. Neither did the US policy of sparking conflict in Syria which started with Kissinger.

Do you see anything here about "foreign military involvement" here?

Yes of course.  The IDF would have taken Damascus,  except for Iraqi intervention.  That's two foreign military forces,  I could count the Russians too since they deployed their SAM6
systems throughout the region. 

Edit:  I forgot the Jordanian, and Saudi units that were deployed in Syria at that same time as the Iraqi armored units.   So that's,  what five foreign military forces,  you appear to be ignorant of all of them. 

Here is the background you failed to comprehend.
Quote
The US then began intensive diplomatic efforts to secure disengagement agreements between Israel, Syria and Egypt, and offered them millions of dollars to reach such deals.

Henry Kissinger, the US secretary of state, flew from country to country in an effort to broker a peace deal, in what came to be known as 'Shuttle Diplomacy' - a new lexicon that had entered the realm of international politics.

On Tuesday, November 6, Kissinger, flew in to Cairo for his first ever meeting with Sadat. Four days later, an initial agreement was signed guaranteeing daily convoys of non-military supplies to the city of Suez and the besieged Egyptian 3rd army.

Four days later, prisoners from both sides were exchanged.

As the New Year arrived, Kissinger returned to the region to hammer out the next step in his grand plan for Egyptian-Israeli disengagement. On January 11, 1974, he arrived in the southern Egyptian city of Aswan to meet Sadat. The next day, he left for Tel Aviv. Both sides accepted a disengagement agreement.

Meanwhile, the Israelis were still occupying a salient deep inside Syria, not far from the capital Damascus. So, in May 1974, Kissinger set out on his second round of shuttle diplomacy, this time between Damascus and Tel Aviv.

After almost a month of hard talking, Kissenger managed to secure a second breakthrough in the region when, on May 28, Israel approved a disengagement agreement with Syria. It was signed in Geneva on June 5, bringing the War in October to an official end after 243 days of fighting.


Do you see anything relevant to France or your dad here?

Yes.  But first tell me why I should bother educating you?

Yes.

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2019, 03:02:00 AM
IDF would have taken Damascus,  except for Iraqi intervention.
[...]
I could count the Russians too
[...]
Jordanian, and Saudi units
 [...]
 Iraqi armored units. 
Besides, Syria didn't pop into existence 10 years ago. Neither did the US policy of sparking conflict in Syria which started with Kissinger.

US policy

sparking conflict in Syria

If you really want to talk about how the USA's proxies were doing damage in the area since earlier on, cool, it doesn't help your point exactly, but cool. However, it is not what I am talking about.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2019, 03:08:39 AM
You also seem to be completely unaware of the destructive divide and conquer approach Kissinger employed both within Syria and between its neighbours, as well as straight up funding and training Islamic extremists, both of which continued long after he stepped down.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2019, 03:12:44 AM
I know it's hard to stomach but even if they just had left Assad alone and stopped constantly trying to turn one group against the other and funding jihadis, Syria would be in a far better shape today. This failed dumbass policy only lead to millions dying and getting displaced.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 28, 2019, 03:28:17 AM
I know it's hard to stomach but even if they just had left Assad alone and stopped constantly trying to turn one group against the other and funding jihadis, Syria would be in a far better shape today. This failed dumbass policy only lead to millions dying and getting displaced.

Nope,   it's  Shia versus Sunni,   a repressive minority Shia government in a majority Sunni country. 

Not clear if the Alawite are closer to Sunni than traditional Shia,  but they still hate each other.

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 28, 2019, 03:41:31 AM
You also seem to be completely unaware of the destructive divide and conquer approach Kissinger employed both within Syria and between its neighbours, as well as straight up funding and training Islamic extremists, both of which continued long after he stepped down.

You are correct,  I'm not aware of either of those things,  but that's probably because they didn't happen.

I don't know where you are getting your history from, but it's not correct.   Egypt and Syria both attacked Israel simultaneously and both got their asses kicked.

Israel would have happily levelled Damascus and held onto the Suez canal.  How do you think that would have played out?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2019, 03:44:10 AM
I know it's hard to stomach but even if they just had left Assad alone and stopped constantly trying to turn one group against the other and funding jihadis, Syria would be in a far better shape today. This failed dumbass policy only lead to millions dying and getting displaced.

Nope,   it's  Shia versus Sunni,   a repressive minority Shia government in a majority Sunni country. 

Not clear if the Alawite are closer to Sunni than traditional Shia,  but they still hate each other.
Yep. That's all it is. Pack it up folks. That's why the same shit happened in almost every other country in the area and in North Africa in one form or the other. Jihadis have the ability to spontaneously organize and materialize weapons out of nowhere.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 28, 2019, 03:54:59 AM
Yep. That's all it is. Pack it up folks. That's why the same shit happened in almost every other country in the area and in North Africa in one form or the other. Jihadis have the ability to spontaneously organize and materialize weapons out of nowhere.

First thing you've said that has an element of truth.  Jihadi's do in fact have the ability to radicalize gullible people, even on-line, in places as far away as Australia,  so yes they can materialize people as weapons out of nowhere.

Personal question,  do you have any Islamic friends?

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2019, 04:17:58 AM
You also seem to be completely unaware of the destructive divide and conquer approach Kissinger employed both within Syria and between its neighbours, as well as straight up funding and training Islamic extremists, both of which continued long after he stepped down.

You are correct,  I'm not aware of either of those things,  but that's probably because they didn't happen.

I don't know where you are getting your history from, but it's not correct.   Egypt and Syria both attacked Israel simultaneously and both got their asses kicked.

Israel would have happily levelled Damascus and held onto the Suez canal.  How do you think that would have played out?

Nice historical revisionism. They just attacked Israel for no reason unprovoked, right?

Also why are you acting like at the time of negotiations Israel held Damascus or whatever? They weren't in a position to hold these areas, it's not like the agreement ended unfavourably for Israel. They couldn't have "happily levelled Damascus and held on to the Suez Canal", they were being attacked on two fronts, and Syria and Egypt actually had some initial victories, there was no reason for them to want to prolong this, it wasn't a walk in the park like the Six Day war and it was costing them both lives and money.

You also seem to be ignoring that Kissinger was the one who shut down diplomacy with Sadat before the war, due to overconfidence in the ability of Israel to forever be unchallenged, which is what lead up to the war in the first place.

The fact that they couldn't always count on pure military might was what lead to a shift in policy which focused in funding other groups to do their job for them, and trying to trick Assad instead of actually trying to make long standing peace.

It's no secret that Islamic extremism has been supported on many instances by the US btw. Not even outlets like WaPo deny it. It's fairly open information.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2019, 04:19:33 AM
Yep. That's all it is. Pack it up folks. That's why the same shit happened in almost every other country in the area and in North Africa in one form or the other. Jihadis have the ability to spontaneously organize and materialize weapons out of nowhere.

First thing you've said that has an element of truth.  Jihadi's do in fact have the ability to radicalize gullible people, even on-line, in places as far away as Australia,  so yes they can materialize people as weapons out of nowhere.

Personal question,  do you have any Islamic friends?
Lmao yeah they just put their hand on the Quran, they say a couple of prayers, and suddenly BOOM they have an arsenal of RPGs.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 28, 2019, 04:29:23 AM
Today, on this episode of "They simply radicalize people and materialise resources out of nowhere" :

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/12/08/the-taliban-indoctrinates-kids-with-jihadist-textbooks-paid-for-by-the-u-s/%3foutputType=amp

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/world/middleeast/donald-trump-syria.html?_r=0

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/world/middleeast/arms-airlift-to-syrian-rebels-expands-with-cia-aid.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/24/world/middleeast/us-relies-heavily-on-saudi-money-to-support-syrian-rebels.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/syria-rebels-draw-closer-to-al-qaeda-linked-group-1475197943

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 28, 2019, 04:51:49 PM
Yep. That's all it is. Pack it up folks. That's why the same shit happened in almost every other country in the area and in North Africa in one form or the other. Jihadis have the ability to spontaneously organize and materialize weapons out of nowhere.

First thing you've said that has an element of truth.  Jihadi's do in fact have the ability to radicalize gullible people, even on-line, in places as far away as Australia,  so yes they can materialize people as weapons out of nowhere.

Personal question,  do you have any Islamic friends?
Lmao yeah they just put their hand on the Quran, they say a couple of prayers, and suddenly BOOM they have an arsenal of RPGs.

Or a Truck in a crowded shopping mall.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 28, 2019, 04:52:55 PM
Today, on this episode of "They simply radicalize people and materialise resources out of nowhere" :

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/12/08/the-taliban-indoctrinates-kids-with-jihadist-textbooks-paid-for-by-the-u-s/%3foutputType=amp

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/world/middleeast/donald-trump-syria.html?_r=0

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/world/middleeast/arms-airlift-to-syrian-rebels-expands-with-cia-aid.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/24/world/middleeast/us-relies-heavily-on-saudi-money-to-support-syrian-rebels.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/syria-rebels-draw-closer-to-al-qaeda-linked-group-1475197943

LOL.  I was thinking of trying to engage you in a discussion,  but I'm getting the feeling you are already a lost cause.  Try getting out more.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 28, 2019, 05:09:28 PM
You also seem to be completely unaware of the destructive divide and conquer approach Kissinger employed both within Syria and between its neighbours, as well as straight up funding and training Islamic extremists, both of which continued long after he stepped down.

You are correct,  I'm not aware of either of those things,  but that's probably because they didn't happen.

I don't know where you are getting your history from, but it's not correct.   Egypt and Syria both attacked Israel simultaneously and both got their asses kicked.

Israel would have happily levelled Damascus and held onto the Suez canal.  How do you think that would have played out?

Nice historical revisionism. They just attacked Israel for no reason unprovoked, right?

Also why are you acting like at the time of negotiations Israel held Damascus or whatever? They weren't in a position to hold these areas, it's not like the agreement ended unfavourably for Israel. They couldn't have "happily levelled Damascus and held on to the Suez Canal", they were being attacked on two fronts, and Syria and Egypt actually had some initial victories, there was no reason for them to want to prolong this, it wasn't a walk in the park like the Six Day war and it was costing them both lives and money.

You also seem to be ignoring that Kissinger was the one who shut down diplomacy with Sadat before the war, due to overconfidence in the ability of Israel to forever be unchallenged, which is what lead up to the war in the first place.

The fact that they couldn't always count on pure military might was what lead to a shift in policy which focused in funding other groups to do their job for them, and trying to trick Assad instead of actually trying to make long standing peace.

It's no secret that Islamic extremism has been supported on many instances by the US btw. Not even outlets like WaPo deny it. It's fairly open information.

Umm... so many errors of fact, it's hard to know where to begin, how about the fact that it was Nasser that was Predident of Egypt during the 6 day war,  Sadat didn't come to power until October 1970.

Why are you even talking about Assad,  even his father wasn't in power back in 1967,  Bashar didn't come to power until his father died in 2000,  and Hafez didn't become president until after the 6 day war.

Try and get the facts straight before you go blathering on and on about stuff you know nothing about.

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 28, 2019, 05:26:17 PM
Here's the short version of what actually happened ( on the Syrian front ) 

 The Ba'ath party was dominated by members of the Alawite religious minority (12% of the Syrian population) and maintained a shrill anti-Israel stance in large part to divert the discontent of Syria's Sunni majority. The president of Syria at the time was Nur al-Din al-Atasi.

On May 13, 1967, the Soviet Union relayed false information to Syria and Egypt that Israeli forces were massing on Syria's border. This prompted Syria and Egypt to activate their military pact and figured in Nasser's subsequent steps towards war. Syrian planes bombed northern Israel on June 5, the first day of the war. The following day, Syrian forces attacked the Israeli communities of Tel Dan, Kibbutz Shaar Yashuv and Ashmura but were repelled by Israeli forces. The Syrian air force unsuccessfully attempted to bomb oil refineries in Haifa. Israeli forces counter-attacked on July 9 and 10, driving the Syrians from the Golan Heights and bringing the Six Day War to a close. Estimated Syrian losses were 2500 killed, 5000 wounded, and 591 taken prisoner.

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 29, 2019, 08:21:35 AM
Today, on this episode of "They simply radicalize people and materialise resources out of nowhere" :

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/12/08/the-taliban-indoctrinates-kids-with-jihadist-textbooks-paid-for-by-the-u-s/%3foutputType=amp

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/world/middleeast/donald-trump-syria.html?_r=0

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/world/middleeast/arms-airlift-to-syrian-rebels-expands-with-cia-aid.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/24/world/middleeast/us-relies-heavily-on-saudi-money-to-support-syrian-rebels.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/syria-rebels-draw-closer-to-al-qaeda-linked-group-1475197943

LOL.  I was thinking of trying to engage you in a discussion,  but I'm getting the feeling you are already a lost cause.  Try getting out more.
When confronted with sources, JerkFace screams incoherently.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 29, 2019, 08:22:59 AM
Yep. That's all it is. Pack it up folks. That's why the same shit happened in almost every other country in the area and in North Africa in one form or the other. Jihadis have the ability to spontaneously organize and materialize weapons out of nowhere.

First thing you've said that has an element of truth.  Jihadi's do in fact have the ability to radicalize gullible people, even on-line, in places as far away as Australia,  so yes they can materialize people as weapons out of nowhere.

Personal question,  do you have any Islamic friends?
Lmao yeah they just put their hand on the Quran, they say a couple of prayers, and suddenly BOOM they have an arsenal of RPGs.

Or a Truck in a crowded shopping mall.

Do you think they're fighting in the middle east by driving trucks into their opponents? Do you think that's how ISIS got so powerful?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 29, 2019, 08:28:12 AM
You also seem to be completely unaware of the destructive divide and conquer approach Kissinger employed both within Syria and between its neighbours, as well as straight up funding and training Islamic extremists, both of which continued long after he stepped down.

You are correct,  I'm not aware of either of those things,  but that's probably because they didn't happen.

I don't know where you are getting your history from, but it's not correct.   Egypt and Syria both attacked Israel simultaneously and both got their asses kicked.

Israel would have happily levelled Damascus and held onto the Suez canal.  How do you think that would have played out?

Nice historical revisionism. They just attacked Israel for no reason unprovoked, right?

Also why are you acting like at the time of negotiations Israel held Damascus or whatever? They weren't in a position to hold these areas, it's not like the agreement ended unfavourably for Israel. They couldn't have "happily levelled Damascus and held on to the Suez Canal", they were being attacked on two fronts, and Syria and Egypt actually had some initial victories, there was no reason for them to want to prolong this, it wasn't a walk in the park like the Six Day war and it was costing them both lives and money.

You also seem to be ignoring that Kissinger was the one who shut down diplomacy with Sadat before the war, due to overconfidence in the ability of Israel to forever be unchallenged, which is what lead up to the war in the first place.

The fact that they couldn't always count on pure military might was what lead to a shift in policy which focused in funding other groups to do their job for them, and trying to trick Assad instead of actually trying to make long standing peace.

It's no secret that Islamic extremism has been supported on many instances by the US btw. Not even outlets like WaPo deny it. It's fairly open information.

Umm... so many errors of fact, it's hard to know where to begin, how about the fact that it was Nasser that was Predident of Egypt during the 6 day war,  Sadat didn't come to power until October 1970.

Why are you even talking about Assad,  even his father wasn't in power back in 1967,  Bashar didn't come to power until his father died in 2000,  and Hafez didn't become president until after the 6 day war.

Try and get the facts straight before you go blathering on and on about stuff you know nothing about.

When did I say anything about the 6 day war? You do know there was another war after the 6 day war right? The only thing I said about the 6 day war is that it wasn't as successful for Syria and Egypt as the Yom Kippur war (which wasn't successful either, but challenged Israel much more). For whatever reason you're having an imaginary argument about what happened before the 6 day war when it wasn't mentioned. You were talking about the 1974 negotiations, remember? They had nothing to do with the 6 day war.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 29, 2019, 04:20:07 PM
You also seem to be completely unaware of the destructive divide and conquer approach Kissinger employed both within Syria and between its neighbours, as well as straight up funding and training Islamic extremists, both of which continued long after he stepped down.

You are correct,  I'm not aware of either of those things,  but that's probably because they didn't happen.

I don't know where you are getting your history from, but it's not correct.   Egypt and Syria both attacked Israel simultaneously and both got their asses kicked.

Israel would have happily levelled Damascus and held onto the Suez canal.  How do you think that would have played out?

Nice historical revisionism. They just attacked Israel for no reason unprovoked, right?

Also why are you acting like at the time of negotiations Israel held Damascus or whatever? They weren't in a position to hold these areas, it's not like the agreement ended unfavourably for Israel. They couldn't have "happily levelled Damascus and held on to the Suez Canal", they were being attacked on two fronts, and Syria and Egypt actually had some initial victories, there was no reason for them to want to prolong this, it wasn't a walk in the park like the Six Day war and it was costing them both lives and money.

You also seem to be ignoring that Kissinger was the one who shut down diplomacy with Sadat before the war, due to overconfidence in the ability of Israel to forever be unchallenged, which is what lead up to the war in the first place.

The fact that they couldn't always count on pure military might was what lead to a shift in policy which focused in funding other groups to do their job for them, and trying to trick Assad instead of actually trying to make long standing peace.

It's no secret that Islamic extremism has been supported on many instances by the US btw. Not even outlets like WaPo deny it. It's fairly open information.

Umm... so many errors of fact, it's hard to know where to begin, how about the fact that it was Nasser that was Predident of Egypt during the 6 day war,  Sadat didn't come to power until October 1970.

Why are you even talking about Assad,  even his father wasn't in power back in 1967,  Bashar didn't come to power until his father died in 2000,  and Hafez didn't become president until after the 6 day war.

Try and get the facts straight before you go blathering on and on about stuff you know nothing about.

When did I say anything about the 6 day war? You do know there was another war after the 6 day war right? The only thing I said about the 6 day war is that it wasn't as successful for Syria and Egypt as the Yom Kippur war (which wasn't successful either, but challenged Israel much more). For whatever reason you're having an imaginary argument about what happened before the 6 day war when it wasn't mentioned. You were talking about the 1974 negotiations, remember? They had nothing to do with the 6 day war.

When did I mention the 1974 negotiations?    You were the one who introduced Kissinger to the debate. 

You also completely missed the point I was making.


Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 29, 2019, 04:25:35 PM
Yep. That's all it is. Pack it up folks. That's why the same shit happened in almost every other country in the area and in North Africa in one form or the other. Jihadis have the ability to spontaneously organize and materialize weapons out of nowhere.

First thing you've said that has an element of truth.  Jihadi's do in fact have the ability to radicalize gullible people, even on-line, in places as far away as Australia,  so yes they can materialize people as weapons out of nowhere.

Personal question,  do you have any Islamic friends?
Lmao yeah they just put their hand on the Quran, they say a couple of prayers, and suddenly BOOM they have an arsenal of RPGs.

Or a Truck in a crowded shopping mall.

Do you think they're fighting in the middle east by driving trucks into their opponents? Do you think that's how ISIS got so powerful?

Read what I wrote,  for once.  Here are a couple of examples.  No RPG's required.

On October 31, 2017, a man drove a rented pickup truck into cyclists and runners for about one mile (1.6 kilometers) of the Hudson River Park's bike path alongside West Street from Houston Street south to Chambers Street in Lower Manhattan, New York City. The vehicle-ramming attack killed eight people, six of whom foreign tourists, and injured eleven others. After crashing the truck into a school bus, the driver exited, apparently wielding two guns (later found to be a paintball gun and a pellet gun). He was shot in the abdomen by a policeman and arrested.[5] A flag and a document indicating allegiance to the terrorist group Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) were found in the truck.[6]

A federal grand jury indicted 29-year-old Sayfullo Habibullaevich Saipov, who had immigrated to the United States from Uzbekistan in 2010, with eight murders in the aid of racketeering, twelve attempted murders in the aid of racketeering, destruction of a motor vehicle and providing material support for a terrorist organization.[7]


On the evening of 14 July 2016, a 19-tonne cargo truck was deliberately driven into crowds of people celebrating Bastille Day on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice, France, resulting in the deaths of 86 people[2] and the injury of 458 others.[4] The driver was Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, a Tunisian resident of France.[5][6] The attack ended following an exchange of gunfire, during which Lahouaiej-Bouhlel was shot and killed by police.

Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack, saying Lahouaiej-Bouhlel answered its "calls to target citizens of coalition nations that fight the Islamic State". On 15 July, François Molins, the prosecutor for the Public Ministry, which is overseeing the investigation, said the attack bore the hallmarks of jihadist terrorism.[7]

On 15 July, French President François Hollande called the attack an act of Islamic terrorism, announced an extension of the state of emergency (which had been declared following the November 2015 Paris attacks) for a further three months, and announced an intensification of French airstrikes on ISIL in Syria and Iraq.[8][9] France later extended the state of emergency until 26 January 2017.[10] The French government declared three days of national mourning starting on 16 July. Thousands of extra police and soldiers were deployed while the government called on citizens to join the reserve forces.

On 21 July, prosecutor François Molins said that Lahouaiej-Bouhlel planned the attack for months and had help from accomplices.[11][12][13] By 1 August, six suspects had been taken into custody on charges of "criminal terrorist conspiracy", three of whom were also charged for complicity in murder in relation to a terrorist enterprise. On 16 December three further suspects, allegedly involved in the supply of illegal weapons to Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, were charged.[14][15][16] The attack has been classified as jihadist terrorism by Europol.[17]

The 2017 Stockholm truck attack was an Islamist terrorist attack which took place on 7 April of that year in central Stockholm, the capital of Sweden. A hijacked truck was deliberately driven into crowds along Drottninggatan (Queen Street) before being crashed into an Åhléns department store. Five people were killed including an eleven-year-old girl and 14 others were seriously injured.

The perpetrator was Rakhmat Akilov, a 39-year-old rejected asylum seeker and a citizen of Uzbekistan, who was apprehended several hours later. He had sworn allegiance to the Islamic State in a self-recorded video the day before the attack,[6] and Uzbek authorities said he had allegedly joined the group.[7] Akilov was convicted of murder and terrorist crimes, and sentenced to life in prison and, if released, deportion to Uzbekistan and lifetime expulsion from Sweden.[8]
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 29, 2019, 04:26:44 PM
LOL.  I was thinking of trying to engage you in a discussion,  but I'm getting the feeling you are already a lost cause.  Try getting out more.
When confronted with sources, JerkFace screams incoherently.

LOL,  projecting.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 30, 2019, 01:15:47 AM
Wall of blue text

You forgot to answer.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 30, 2019, 01:17:09 AM
When did I mention the 1974 negotiations?    You were the one who introduced Kissinger to the debate. 
And then you started talking about Kissinger, and the negotiations. It's not my fault you confuse yourself when you jump to whatever conversation suits you.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on October 30, 2019, 01:17:56 AM
LOL.  I was thinking of trying to engage you in a discussion,  but I'm getting the feeling you are already a lost cause.  Try getting out more.
When confronted with sources, JerkFace screams incoherently.

LOL,  projecting.
Still forgot to answer.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 30, 2019, 02:13:16 AM
When did I mention the 1974 negotiations?    You were the one who introduced Kissinger to the debate. 
And then you started talking about Kissinger, and the negotiations. It's not my fault you confuse yourself when you jump to whatever conversation suits you.

Correct,  it's not your fault that you are ignorant of Syrian history.  But you could at least make an effort to learn a little bit.  Or, you could go on thinking you know it all.

Oh wait....

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 30, 2019, 04:14:41 PM
Tulsi Gabbard is planning a spoiler campaign.  I'm wondering if that might backfire, and she takes votes from Trump,  rather than the Dems.

Quote
It is in Gabbard’s interest to conflate the charge that she is working on behalf of the Republicans with the charge that she’s working on behalf of the Russians. The former is apparent, while the latter is impossible to prove. Gabbard has taken some strident foreign-policy stances that follow no apparent American dovish objective, and do line up with Russian goals. While Gabbard presents herself as a noninterventionist, she bizarrely attacked the Obama administration for failing to bomb Al Qaeda in Syria, while crediting Russia for allegedly doing so:

Quote
In fact, nothing could do more to vindicate Clinton’s suspicion that Gabbard is being groomed by the Republican party as a spoiler candidate than a Wall Street Journal op-ed previewing her case for a spoiler campaign.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/10/tulsi-gabbard-third-party-campaign-russia-spoiler.html
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 31, 2019, 10:40:35 AM
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1189953841707573248?s=20
Quote
Ann Coulter
@AnnCoulter
No she didn't.  Tulsi is a SENATOR, meaning she's in the SENATE and doesn't vote on HOUSE resolutions.

This was a reply to this tweet -
 
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1189941618276782081?s=20
Quote
Catturd
@catturd2
For all you foolish Tulsi Gabbard fans ...

She just voted for the illegal impeachment coup.

She's just a better looking Nancy Pelosi.

Ann Coulter doesn't know that Tulsi is a rep.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on October 31, 2019, 05:18:13 PM
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1189953841707573248?s=20
Quote
Ann Coulter
@AnnCoulter
No she didn't.  Tulsi is a SENATOR, meaning she's in the SENATE and doesn't vote on HOUSE resolutions.

This was a reply to this tweet -
 
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1189941618276782081?s=20
Quote
Catturd
@catturd2
For all you foolish Tulsi Gabbard fans ...

She just voted for the illegal impeachment coup.

She's just a better looking Nancy Pelosi.

Ann Coulter doesn't know that Tulsi is a rep.

I admit to not knowing much about Ann Coulter,  now I wish I didn't bother to find out.

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Pezevenk on November 03, 2019, 04:52:19 PM
Correct,  it's not your fault that you are ignorant of Syrian history.  But you could at least make an effort to learn a little bit.  Or, you could go on thinking you know it all.

Oh wait....
That's really rich coming from the person that has been mixing up things that happened years apart post after post after post.

Still avoided to answer substantially though.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on November 11, 2019, 03:02:20 PM
Interesting angle by Nate Silver,  If Gabbard runs as a 3rd party spoiler,  there is a strong chance she will split the conservative vote, rather than the Dems.

Quote
Lest you make the mistake that Tulsi Gabbard's support is coming from the left, almost all of her support in the Q-Pac poll of NH is from voters who describe themselves as conservative or moderate. And almost all from independents and not Democrats.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1193986420039454721
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on November 23, 2019, 06:14:18 PM
Anybody still think Tulsi Gabbard isn't being promoted by the Russians?


(https://media14.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/201911/n_joy_russianinterference2020_191123_1920x1080.860;484;7;70;5.jpg)
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Crouton on November 24, 2019, 09:47:20 AM
Upon further reflection I really don't have a good reason to dislike Tulsi Gabbard.  Perhaps if I research it I'll find a reason but the best that I can think of is that she seems very unpleasant.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 24, 2019, 09:56:32 AM
What I don't understand is why. Why are the Russians promoting her? Nobody thinks she has a chance to win the primaries.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Shifter on November 24, 2019, 03:39:52 PM
What I don't understand is why. Why are the Russians promoting her? Nobody thinks she has a chance to win the primaries.

2 that I can think of

When she loses more people end up getting upset. = unhappier America.

Votes for her aren't necessarily votes for candidates Russians don't want to see get up

I am sure the Ruskis are also trashing her at the same time elsewhere. Trying to divide America.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on November 24, 2019, 03:48:55 PM
What I don't understand is why. Why are the Russians promoting her? Nobody thinks she has a chance to win the primaries.

The are grooming her as a third party spoiler,  this is the stage where they lay the ground work,  and later they crank up the disinfo campaign.

Think Jill Stein 2020.

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 24, 2019, 04:00:53 PM
Right, except she appeals more to Trump voters than Dem voters. Maybe the Russians want him to lose now.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Shifter on November 24, 2019, 04:12:30 PM
Right, except she appeals more to Trump voters than Dem voters. Maybe the Russians want him to lose now.

I think the Russians just like bri going chaos to what would otherwise be something orderly.

Look at the state of your politics. Look at how polarized people are. You're divided, hence weaker
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Crouton on November 24, 2019, 04:38:57 PM
The Russians pretty much always fuck with our elections.  Sometimes they like a particular candidate.  Often it's to attack democracy itself.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on November 24, 2019, 04:55:12 PM
Right, except she appeals more to Trump voters than Dem voters. Maybe the Russians want him to lose now.

Nate Silver's interpretation is that she is pulling independant voters from Trump,   that could hurt both Trump and the MOM-Celine ticket.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1193986420039454721
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 24, 2019, 06:37:41 PM
I will fight Tulsi Gabbard!

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on November 24, 2019, 07:33:38 PM
I will fight Tulsi Gabbard!

Do you have any close relatives with shady business dealings in Ukraine?    Thats a pre-requisite these days.

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 26, 2019, 01:01:46 PM


She's on JRE. Pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on November 26, 2019, 06:00:46 PM


She's on JRE. Pretty interesting.

Interesting Interview,  they didn't ask any hard questions tho. 


MOM:TULSI 2020

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 26, 2019, 06:51:34 PM
We will take down the evil Clinton empire once and for all.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on November 26, 2019, 11:06:19 PM
We will take down the evil Clinton empire once and for all.

LOL,  I think there is a queue.  Just be careful you don't get suicided in the back of the head.   ( jumping in ahead of BHS )



Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on November 27, 2019, 04:46:20 AM
Anybody still think Tulsi Gabbard isn't being promoted by the Russians?


(https://media14.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/201911/n_joy_russianinterference2020_191123_1920x1080.860;484;7;70;5.jpg)
What is wrong with Russia?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on November 27, 2019, 02:04:17 PM
What is wrong with Russia?

You mean apart from them conducting massive disinfo campaigns to divide and disrupt? 





Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: DuckDodgers on November 27, 2019, 03:04:06 PM
Or them orchestrating massive hacking operations which lead to the theft of millions of americans having their identity compromised?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on November 29, 2019, 08:21:31 AM
What is wrong with Russia?

You mean apart from them conducting massive disinfo campaigns to divide and disrupt?
Aside from other known agencies proven to have conducted misinformation and disinformation campaigns, what evidence do you have Russians are doing this?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on November 29, 2019, 08:22:17 AM
Or them orchestrating massive hacking operations which lead to the theft of millions of americans having their identity compromised?
Independent evidence would be good.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on November 29, 2019, 03:16:40 PM

Aside from other known agencies proven to have conducted misinformation and disinformation campaigns, what evidence do you have Russians are doing this?

Didn't you read the indictments?    https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download


Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Bullwinkle on November 30, 2019, 02:44:19 AM

Didn't you read the indictments?

An indictment is not evidence.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on November 30, 2019, 03:30:33 AM

Didn't you read the indictments?

An indictment is not evidence.

Yes it is.  It is sworn testimony before a grand jury.

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on November 30, 2019, 06:22:01 AM

Didn't you read the indictments?

An indictment is not evidence.

Yes it is.  It is sworn testimony before a grand jury.
No it isn't.

An indictment is a court action.

Again,  independent evidence from a source that has not been shown to have committed misinformation and disinformation campaigns would be nice.

Anything tied to 5 eyes is highly suspect.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on November 30, 2019, 06:29:46 PM

Didn't you read the indictments?

An indictment is not evidence.

Yes it is.  It is sworn testimony before a grand jury.
No it isn't.

An indictment is a court action.

Again,  independent evidence from a source that has not been shown to have committed misinformation and disinformation campaigns would be nice.

Anything tied to 5 eyes is highly suspect.

So you haven't read the supporting evidence in the grand jury indictment?   https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

I suggest you do. 

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 01, 2019, 01:55:33 AM

Didn't you read the indictments?

An indictment is not evidence.

Yes it is.  It is sworn testimony before a grand jury.
No it isn't.

An indictment is a court action.

Again,  independent evidence from a source that has not been shown to have committed misinformation and disinformation campaigns would be nice.

Anything tied to 5 eyes is highly suspect.

So you haven't read the supporting evidence in the grand jury indictment?   https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

I suggest you do.
Why do you choose to trust anything offered by proven liars?

Aside from that alone, please help the reading audience by specifically stating exactly how any actions taken by the bad, bad RUSSIANS actually did anything to have a deleterious effect on the 2016 election.

What specific difference is there between what they did and say, you posting your opinions about US politics here or anywhere else on the internet?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on December 01, 2019, 05:49:40 AM

Why do you choose to trust anything offered by proven liars?


If you lie to the grand jury you will end up being charged with perjury and likely go to jail.

The only people who got charged with lying are Trump campaign people.  Even Roger Stone,  proved that Trump himself lied in his written testimony.

What are the chances Trump will get charged with perjury when he leaves office?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 01, 2019, 08:13:03 AM

Why do you choose to trust anything offered by proven liars?


If you lie to the grand jury you will end up being charged with perjury and likely go to jail.

The only people who got charged with lying are Trump campaign people.  Even Roger Stone,  proved that Trump himself lied in his written testimony.

What are the chances Trump will get charged with perjury when he leaves office?
About the same as you posting something sane on these boards.

Now, again...explain, in detail, specifically...what have any of these mysterious Russkies done that is substantially different from the BS you post here each and every day of the year?

AFAF...
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on December 01, 2019, 01:25:30 PM
I knew it, Jerkface has thousands of fake Twitter accounts!
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on December 01, 2019, 03:31:05 PM
I knew it, Jerkface has thousands of fake Twitter accounts!

Just so long as they don't find out about the millions I funnelled to the GOP through the NRA and the money I paid Fox News to spread disinfo.

Putin:Gabbard 2020
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Bullwinkle on December 01, 2019, 06:30:23 PM
President should be picked at random like jury duty.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 01, 2019, 09:40:00 PM
I knew it, Jerkface has thousands of fake Twitter accounts!

Just so long as they don't find out about the millions I funnelled to the GOP through the NRA and the money I paid Fox News to spread disinfo.

Putin:Gabbard 2020
Won't answer the question.

Busted.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on December 01, 2019, 09:51:17 PM
President should be picked at random like jury duty.

Why not,  couldn't be any worse than someone Putin controls.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on December 02, 2019, 12:26:21 AM

Won't answer the question.

Busted.

Seems you still didn't actually read the evidence you asked for.   Busted
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 02, 2019, 05:09:58 AM

Won't answer the question.

Busted.

Seems you still didn't actually read the evidence you asked for.   Busted
Yeah, I read everything you provided.

One, you got Five Eyes teling me something...

Two, I got you performing as a foreign agent here on an internet forum.

The questions once again:

Why believe anything a proven liar (i.e., the CIA or FBI) tells you?

Two, what is wrong with Russians offering political opinions?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on December 02, 2019, 03:25:39 PM
Why believe anything a proven liar (i.e., the CIA or FBI) tells you?

You means besides the witnesses and documentary evidence?

Two, what is wrong with Russians offering political opinions?

Lies and divisive propaganda aren't opinions, they are tools to attack and divide,  (spoiler alert:  it worked).

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: markjo on December 02, 2019, 05:11:12 PM
Why do you choose to trust anything offered by proven liars?
Good question.  Why do you trust anything offered by proven liar Donald Trump?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 03, 2019, 03:46:23 AM
Why believe anything a proven liar (i.e., the CIA or FBI) tells you?

You means besides the witnesses and documentary evidence?
Witnesses?

Please provide a list of witnesses in the indictment...

Two, what is wrong with Russians offering political opinions?

Lies and divisive propaganda aren't opinions, they are tools to attack and divide,  (spoiler alert:  it worked).
What lies?

What propaganda?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on December 03, 2019, 03:59:14 AM
Please provide a list of witnesses in the indictment...

Heres a start...

1. Ali, Hesham
2. Ayliff, Philip
3. Brennan, James
4. Day, John
5. DeLuca, Douglas
6. Devine, Tad
7. Duggan, Donna
8. Evenson, Darin
9. Gates, Richard
10. Holland, Wayne
11. Jacobson, Stephen
12. James, Melinda
13. Katzman, Maximillian
14. Kirimca, Irfan
15. Laporta, Cindy
16. LaPorte, Kevin
17. Liss, Paula
18. Magionos, Morgan
19. Maxwell, Joel
20. Metzler, Amanda
21. Miceli, Peggy
22. Michael, Renee
23. Mikuska, Matthew
24. O’Brien, Conor
25. Opsut, Daniel
26. Rabin, Daniel
27. Raico, Dennis
28. Regolizio, Michael
29. Rodriguez, Taryn
30. Seferian, Gary
31. Sullivan, Stacey
32. Trusko, Alex
33. Wall, Ronald
34. Washkuhn, Heather
35. Welch, Michael

There are others,  what would you like?

Michael Cohen?    Steve Bannon?     

What lies?
What propaganda?

Here is a start.

https://games-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/f5fe536c-81bb-45be-86e5-a9fee9794664/note/a8d336ef-e98d-4a08-987d-b4c154b22700.pdf

But you'd already know from the IRA indictments,  the type of disinfo campaign they are running..




Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 03, 2019, 04:01:21 AM
Please provide a list of witnesses in the indictment...

Heres a start...

1. Ali, Hesham
2. Ayliff, Philip
3. Brennan, James
4. Day, John
5. DeLuca, Douglas
6. Devine, Tad
7. Duggan, Donna
8. Evenson, Darin
9. Gates, Richard
10. Holland, Wayne
11. Jacobson, Stephen
12. James, Melinda
13. Katzman, Maximillian
14. Kirimca, Irfan
15. Laporta, Cindy
16. LaPorte, Kevin
17. Liss, Paula
18. Magionos, Morgan
19. Maxwell, Joel
20. Metzler, Amanda
21. Miceli, Peggy
22. Michael, Renee
23. Mikuska, Matthew
24. O’Brien, Conor
25. Opsut, Daniel
26. Rabin, Daniel
27. Raico, Dennis
28. Regolizio, Michael
29. Rodriguez, Taryn
30. Seferian, Gary
31. Sullivan, Stacey
32. Trusko, Alex
33. Wall, Ronald
34. Washkuhn, Heather
35. Welch, Michael

There are others,  what would you like?

Michael Cohen?    Steve Bannon?     

What lies?
What propaganda?

Here is a start.

https://games-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/f5fe536c-81bb-45be-86e5-a9fee9794664/note/a8d336ef-e98d-4a08-987d-b4c154b22700.pdf

But you'd already know from the IRA indictments,  the type of disinfo campaign they are running..
Who are these fine, upstanding people you provided?

What do you knw of them?

Who do they work for?

Mueller report?

Really?

What a joke...
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on December 03, 2019, 04:04:06 AM

Who are these fine, upstanding people you provided?

What do you knw of them?

Who do they work for?

Mueller report?

Really?

What a joke...

Have you read the Mueller report?   
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 03, 2019, 05:43:35 AM

Who are these fine, upstanding people you provided?

What do you knw of them?

Who do they work for?

Mueller report?

Really?

What a joke...

Have you read the Mueller report?   
Yep.

Have you?

The Mueller Report alleges the Obama Administration was in charge of US Security during the alleged 2016 Russian interference.

Why wasn't anyone charged in the Obama Administration for failing to protect the election, as they were sworn to do...Do you support such ineptitude at these sacred levels of government?

You probably do.

You probably supported the early release of that terrorist in London.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Shifter on December 03, 2019, 06:30:14 AM

Who are these fine, upstanding people you provided?

What do you knw of them?

Who do they work for?

Mueller report?

Really?

What a joke...

Have you read the Mueller report?   
Yep.

Have you?

The Mueller Report alleges the Obama Administration was in charge of US Security during the alleged 2016 Russian interference.

Why wasn't anyone charged in the Obama Administration for failing to protect the election, as they were sworn to do...Do you support such ineptitude at these sacred levels of government?

You probably do.

You probably supported the early release of that terrorist in London.

I also wonder why Facebook and Cambridge Analytica dont also share a portion of the blame. Is it because one is America itself and the other comes from an allied country? Easier to blame the Ruskis I guess, but lets not forget those that facilitated it all.



Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on December 03, 2019, 06:48:13 AM
Yep.

I don't think you have.  If you'd understood it,  you'd know who those witnesses were.

As for Obama,  he was blocked from taking bipartisan action by McConnell,   I thought you would have known that?


Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 03, 2019, 08:31:24 AM
Yep.

I don't think you have.  If you'd understood it,  you'd know who those witnesses were.

As for Obama,  he was blocked from taking bipartisan action by McConnell,   I thought you would have known that?
Obama was a big fan of Executive Orders...

Funny he did not choose that option , don't you think?

Oh, I forgot, he clearly stated to Medvedev, "Tell Vladimir..."
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Stash on December 03, 2019, 11:53:16 AM
Yep.

I don't think you have.  If you'd understood it,  you'd know who those witnesses were.

As for Obama,  he was blocked from taking bipartisan action by McConnell,   I thought you would have known that?
Obama was a big fan of Executive Orders...

“The country wasn’t based on executive orders,” Trump said at a South Carolina campaign stop in February 2016. “Right now, Obama goes around signing executive orders. He can’t even get along with the Democrats, and he goes around signing all these executive orders. It’s a basic disaster. You can’t do it.”

(https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/c2c86b58b45944dd89dfc53741ecd891/1377.jpeg)
https://apnews.com/25ca8d3b39024f9e828df7ebeb718274
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on December 03, 2019, 02:29:35 PM
Jerkface https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1201931955002052608?s=20

lol
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on December 03, 2019, 03:31:28 PM
Jerkface https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1201931955002052608?s=20

lol

Wow,  Tulsi is a democratic candidate with GOP support? 

Oh,  and bye bye Kamala.  :)
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Shifter on December 03, 2019, 08:24:09 PM
Jerkface https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1201931955002052608?s=20

lol

Wow,  Tulsi is a democratic candidate with GOP support? 

Oh,  and bye bye Kamala.  :)

Not sure how she ever thought she was electable. I wonder if she's proud of the attempted character assassinations and division she did to whoever does get nominated in her futile attempt for power.

She has an ice cold heart and won't be missed
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 04, 2019, 04:26:38 AM
Yep.

I don't think you have.  If you'd understood it,  you'd know who those witnesses were.

As for Obama,  he was blocked from taking bipartisan action by McConnell,   I thought you would have known that?
Obama was a big fan of Executive Orders...

“The country wasn’t based on executive orders,” Trump said at a South Carolina campaign stop in February 2016. “Right now, Obama goes around signing executive orders. He can’t even get along with the Democrats, and he goes around signing all these executive orders. It’s a basic disaster. You can’t do it.”

(https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/c2c86b58b45944dd89dfc53741ecd891/1377.jpeg)
https://apnews.com/25ca8d3b39024f9e828df7ebeb718274
So?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Shifter on December 04, 2019, 04:31:23 AM
Yep.

I don't think you have.  If you'd understood it,  you'd know who those witnesses were.

As for Obama,  he was blocked from taking bipartisan action by McConnell,   I thought you would have known that?
Obama was a big fan of Executive Orders...

“The country wasn’t based on executive orders,” Trump said at a South Carolina campaign stop in February 2016. “Right now, Obama goes around signing executive orders. He can’t even get along with the Democrats, and he goes around signing all these executive orders. It’s a basic disaster. You can’t do it.”

(https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/c2c86b58b45944dd89dfc53741ecd891/1377.jpeg)
https://apnews.com/25ca8d3b39024f9e828df7ebeb718274
So?

So, Trump is a hypocrite who opens himself up to deserved ridicule. For all his talk, he ends up being guilty of everything he condemns. By his own admission if he himself is to be believed, he is a bad President lol
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 04, 2019, 04:58:38 AM

As for Obama,  he was blocked from taking bipartisan action by McConnell,   I thought you would have known that?
Yeah, I know who they are.

They are people who say something occurred in the 2016 Presidential election involving Russians, who by way of the internet, supposedly influenced the election causing Hillary to lose.

No specifics as to how these RUSSKIES did it, just the mention of these supposed RUSSKIES (REMEMBER...RUSSIA BAD!!!) and the internet...

Yeah, real solid case you got there...

For instance: "Beginning in March, 2016, units of...the GRU hacked the computers and email accounts of the organizations, employees, and volunteers supporting the Clinton Campaign, including the email account of John Podesta. Starting in April of 2016, the GRU hacked into the computer networks of the  Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic National Committee...The release of the documents was designed and timed to interfere with the 2016 presidential election and undermine the Clinton Campaign."

The question is: How the fuck did any of these actions adversely effect the Clinton Campaign? Hillary Clinton is a known shitbag.

Did any of this BS alleged by Mueller actually have an affect on voters?

The answer: Fuck no.

All 2016, all we heard in MSM? Hillary in a landslide...
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 04, 2019, 05:09:18 AM
So, Trump is a hypocrite who opens himself up to deserved ridicule. For all his talk, he ends up being guilty of everything he condemns. By his own admission if he himself is to be believed, he is a bad President lol
Unless you have an issue with any of the Executive Orders he has issued, looks like you are a foreign whiner...or wiener...choose...

My bringing up the topic of Executive Order is not an indictment of Obama using the process...no...you see:

Shitbag (i.e., JerkFace, Rayzor, foreign interloper he is) claims the Russians interfered in the 2016 election.

My issue is it took place under the watchful eye of the messiah. You know, the good guy...good ole Uncle Barry...

So my broaching the subject of Executive Order was, rather, an indictment of Obama for failing to act with Executive Order to prevent this supposed Russian Interference, especially since it was SUPPOSEDLY KNOWN TO ALL in March of 2016 the BAD, BAD RUSSKIES had hacked poor Hillary's shit. 
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Shifter on December 04, 2019, 05:12:26 AM
All 2016, all we heard in MSM? Hillary in a landslide...

No one will admit it but this actually helped Hillary to lose. MSM essentially told the voters 'Trump has no chance'.

This galvanised republicans to go out and vote
And conversely had democrats not bother because what's the point?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Shifter on December 04, 2019, 05:17:58 AM
Unless you have an issue with any of the Executive Orders he has issued, looks like you are a foreign whiner...or wiener...choose...

It's not that I have an issue or not. I understand its just political games and nonsense. These were Trumps own words.

Quote
"The country wasn’t based on executive orders,” Trump said at a South Carolina campaign stop in February 2016. “Right now, Obama goes around signing executive orders. He can’t even get along with the Democrats, and he goes around signing all these executive orders. It’s a basic disaster. You can’t do it.”

So of course, when he comes in office, eclipses the amount of executive orders that Obama made (who he criticized for using them) and has an even more incendiary and toxic relationship with the democrats well then what else can you say? Of course people will call him out on his bullshit and hypocrisy. Because that's exactly what it is


Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 04, 2019, 05:36:30 AM
Unless you have an issue with any of the Executive Orders he has issued, looks like you are a foreign whiner...or wiener...choose...

It's not that I have an issue or not. I understand its just political games and nonsense. These were Trumps own words.

Quote
"The country wasn’t based on executive orders,” Trump said at a South Carolina campaign stop in February 2016. “Right now, Obama goes around signing executive orders. He can’t even get along with the Democrats, and he goes around signing all these executive orders. It’s a basic disaster. You can’t do it.”

So of course, when he comes in office, eclipses the amount of executive orders that Obama made (who he criticized for using them) and has an even more incendiary and toxic relationship with the democrats well then what else can you say? Of course people will call him out on his bullshit and hypocrisy. Because that's exactly what it is
Again, Trump stated he could shoot somebody on Fifth and not lose a vote.

Rather than utilizing your self-acknowledged miraculous ability to "read between the lines," in this case, you demonstrate your true nature.

People heard all of Trump, re: shooting somebody, re: Executive Orders. They also  were able to ask: "...okay, why did he pull the trigger?" and also saw the nature of the Executive Orders issued by Obama and understood what Trump was saying re: those orders.

People saw the lack of meaningful executive action taken by Obama and the folly of those he did take...hence the agreement with Trump...

So, now you have the full picture.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Shifter on December 04, 2019, 05:50:20 AM
The context of Trump shooting some guy wasn't one of self defence or some arsehole no one likes. It was basically just some random guy.

So now you have the full picture
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: markjo on December 04, 2019, 07:09:10 AM
Unless you have an issue with any of the Executive Orders he has issued, looks like you are a foreign whiner...or wiener...choose...

It's not that I have an issue or not. I understand its just political games and nonsense. These were Trumps own words.

Quote
"The country wasn’t based on executive orders,” Trump said at a South Carolina campaign stop in February 2016. “Right now, Obama goes around signing executive orders. He can’t even get along with the Democrats, and he goes around signing all these executive orders. It’s a basic disaster. You can’t do it.”

So of course, when he comes in office, eclipses the amount of executive orders that Obama made (who he criticized for using them) and has an even more incendiary and toxic relationship with the democrats well then what else can you say? Of course people will call him out on his bullshit and hypocrisy. Because that's exactly what it is
Don't forget when Trump said that he'd be too busy running the country to have time for golf.
https://trumpgolfcount.com/displayoutings
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 04, 2019, 08:28:49 AM
The context of Trump shooting some guy wasn't one of self defence or some arsehole no one likes. It was basically just some random guy.

So now you have the full picture
Oh, so you are not reading between the lines.

Jesus, you are all over the fucking map.

Everybody asks themselves, "Why am I going to pull the fucking trigger?" prior to pulling the trigger.

Not you though, uh?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Shifter on December 04, 2019, 08:54:17 AM
The context of Trump shooting some guy wasn't one of self defence or some arsehole no one likes. It was basically just some random guy.

So now you have the full picture
Oh, so you are not reading between the lines.

Jesus, you are all over the fucking map.

Everybody asks themselves, "Why am I going to pull the fucking trigger?" prior to pulling the trigger.

Not you though, uh?

Trump said "I could stand on New York’s Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and still not lose voters"

So where is the caveats you claim that it is in self defense or something else that makes it legal?

The whole point of the statement was that it was so extreme trying to say how rock solid his 'base' is. That was the point

This is not about "reading between the lines" This is reading exactly how Trump wanted people to read it

You really are dense
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on December 04, 2019, 09:54:58 AM
He's tossing out bait, and people keep taking it.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Shifter on December 04, 2019, 09:58:58 AM
He's tossing out bait, and people keep taking it.

Yum Yum  :P
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on December 04, 2019, 04:06:12 PM

As for Obama,  he was blocked from taking bipartisan action by McConnell,   I thought you would have known that?
Yeah, I know who they are.

They are people who say something occurred in the 2016 Presidential election involving Russians, who by way of the internet, supposedly influenced the election causing Hillary to lose.

No specifics as to how these RUSSKIES did it, just the mention of these supposed RUSSKIES (REMEMBER...RUSSIA BAD!!!) and the internet...

Yeah, real solid case you got there...

For instance: "Beginning in March, 2016, units of...the GRU hacked the computers and email accounts of the organizations, employees, and volunteers supporting the Clinton Campaign, including the email account of John Podesta. Starting in April of 2016, the GRU hacked into the computer networks of the  Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic National Committee...The release of the documents was designed and timed to interfere with the 2016 presidential election and undermine the Clinton Campaign."

The question is: How the fuck did any of these actions adversely effect the Clinton Campaign? Hillary Clinton is a known shitbag.

Did any of this BS alleged by Mueller actually have an affect on voters?

The answer: Fuck no.

All 2016, all we heard in MSM? Hillary in a landslide...

You missed the point completely.   

Suppose you get shot at by someone trying to kill you.   You duck and they miss.   So no crime has been committed by your logic.

As it happens the millions of Russian bots and trolls did have a significant effect in shaping the election result with micro targetted ads and fake campaigns like those fake BLM guys who turned out to be paid Nigerians.  Or the fake pro islamic facebook groups designed to stir up outrage. 

The Russians are shooting at you dumbass GOP supporting Americans yet again.   Don't forget to duck.

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: totallackey on December 06, 2019, 11:43:00 AM

As for Obama,  he was blocked from taking bipartisan action by McConnell,   I thought you would have known that?
Yeah, I know who they are.

They are people who say something occurred in the 2016 Presidential election involving Russians, who by way of the internet, supposedly influenced the election causing Hillary to lose.

No specifics as to how these RUSSKIES did it, just the mention of these supposed RUSSKIES (REMEMBER...RUSSIA BAD!!!) and the internet...

Yeah, real solid case you got there...

For instance: "Beginning in March, 2016, units of...the GRU hacked the computers and email accounts of the organizations, employees, and volunteers supporting the Clinton Campaign, including the email account of John Podesta. Starting in April of 2016, the GRU hacked into the computer networks of the  Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic National Committee...The release of the documents was designed and timed to interfere with the 2016 presidential election and undermine the Clinton Campaign."

The question is: How the fuck did any of these actions adversely effect the Clinton Campaign? Hillary Clinton is a known shitbag.

Did any of this BS alleged by Mueller actually have an affect on voters?

The answer: Fuck no.

All 2016, all we heard in MSM? Hillary in a landslide...

You missed the point completely.   

Suppose you get shot at by someone trying to kill you.   You duck and they miss.   So no crime has been committed by your logic.

As it happens the millions of Russian bots and trolls did have a significant effect in shaping the election result with micro targetted ads and fake campaigns like those fake BLM guys who turned out to be paid Nigerians.  Or the fake pro islamic facebook groups designed to stir up outrage. 

The Russians are shooting at you dumbass GOP supporting Americans yet again.   Don't forget to duck.
Nothing typed or spoken by anyone on the Internet had any effect on the 2016 you ignoramus.

People located all across the country voted against Hillary Clinton.

They didn't need a fucked up foreign shitbag to tell them to do that.

Hillary Clinton is lying douchebag and everyone knows that.

You keep peddling that BS though...nothing wrong with practicing your sole talent.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: markjo on December 06, 2019, 01:09:59 PM
Nothing typed or spoken by anyone on the Internet had any effect on the 2016 you ignoramus.
I bet that the campaign directors will be bummed to hear that their internet advertising budgets were a complete waste of money.

People located all across the country voted against Hillary Clinton.
And more people located all across the country voted for Hillary Clinton, but the Electoral College system happened to work against her.

They didn't need a fucked up foreign shitbag to tell them to do that.
To be fair, it can bet pretty hard to tell the difference between a foreign shitbag and an American shitbag on the internet.

Hillary Clinton is lying douchebag and everyone knows that.
So is Trump, but you already knew that. ;)

You keep peddling that BS though...nothing wrong with practicing your sole talent.
It looks as if you're speaking from experience.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: Shifter on December 06, 2019, 01:39:55 PM
Trump is my man crush

We get it. Also, we know your an alt of a regular here and just likes to get others worked up by saying utterly ridiculous crap

My moneys on boydster. I don't trust that guy

Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard GOP Mole?
Post by: JerkFace on December 06, 2019, 04:54:21 PM

Nothing typed or spoken by anyone on the Internet had any effect on the 2016 you ignoramus.


I could argue otherwise,  but that's not the point I was making. 

Russia conducted a sophisticated and divisive social media campaign against the USA electoral system.

That's not in question.    Whether is succeded or not is not the point. 

America got hacked,  big-time,  and I can understand you want to deny it,  but hiding your heads in the sand, isn't going to work.