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Title: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: Ozymandias74 on August 13, 2019, 09:13:52 PM
Can someone from the FE community let Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) and Elon Musk (Space X) know the earth is flat, so they can stop wasting billions of dollars.   At least they are wasting their own money and not tax payer money.
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: rabinoz on August 13, 2019, 09:41:35 PM
Can someone from the FE community let Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) and Elon Musk (Space X) know the earth is flat, so they can stop wasting billions of dollars.   At least they are wasting their own money and not tax payer money.
Who cares? It's their money and they are worth it for the spectacular fireworks show!

CRS-18 Mission 1,430,347 views by SpaceX

Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: Plat Terra on August 13, 2019, 11:17:11 PM
Can someone from the FE community let Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) and Elon Musk (Space X) know the earth is flat, so they can stop wasting billions of dollars.   At least they are wasting their own money and not tax payer money.

I think some Globe Community members should know Musk's Car in space is toast!

The Tesla Roadster Should Be Melting... [SPACE IS FAKE]

Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: alex314 on August 13, 2019, 11:22:59 PM
Can someone from the FE community let Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) and Elon Musk (Space X) know the earth is flat, so they can stop wasting billions of dollars.   At least they are wasting their own money and not tax payer money.

I think some Globe Community members should know Musk's Car in space is toast!

The Tesla Roadster Should Be Melting... [SPACE IS FAKE]


Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: Plat Terra on August 13, 2019, 11:30:16 PM
Can someone from the FE community let Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) and Elon Musk (Space X) know the earth is flat, so they can stop wasting billions of dollars.   At least they are wasting their own money and not tax payer money.

I think some Globe Community members should know Musk's Car in space is toast!

The Tesla Roadster Should Be Melting... [SPACE IS FAKE]


Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?

Why did you remove the video that explains the car melting in space from my quote? And then ask me "Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?"
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: alex314 on August 13, 2019, 11:35:28 PM
Can someone from the FE community let Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) and Elon Musk (Space X) know the earth is flat, so they can stop wasting billions of dollars.   At least they are wasting their own money and not tax payer money.

I think some Globe Community members should know Musk's Car in space is toast!

The Tesla Roadster Should Be Melting... [SPACE IS FAKE]


Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?

Why did you remove the video that explains the car melting in space from my quote? And then ask me "Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?"

Because I want you to explain it to me. In your own words. I do not watch YT videos. If you cannot explain it to me, you cannot explain it.
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: Plat Terra on August 13, 2019, 11:38:40 PM
Can someone from the FE community let Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) and Elon Musk (Space X) know the earth is flat, so they can stop wasting billions of dollars.   At least they are wasting their own money and not tax payer money.

I think some Globe Community members should know Musk's Car in space is toast!

The Tesla Roadster Should Be Melting... [SPACE IS FAKE]


Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?

Why did you remove the video that explains the car melting in space from my quote? And then ask me "Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?"

Because I want you to explain it to me. In your own words. I do not watch YT videos. If you cannot explain it to me, you cannot explain it.

I don't care you don't watch YT videos.  If you cannot watch the video, you cannot watch the video.
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: alex314 on August 13, 2019, 11:52:41 PM
Can someone from the FE community let Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) and Elon Musk (Space X) know the earth is flat, so they can stop wasting billions of dollars.   At least they are wasting their own money and not tax payer money.

I think some Globe Community members should know Musk's Car in space is toast!

The Tesla Roadster Should Be Melting... [SPACE IS FAKE]


Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?

Why did you remove the video that explains the car melting in space from my quote? And then ask me "Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?"

Because I want you to explain it to me. In your own words. I do not watch YT videos. If you cannot explain it to me, you cannot explain it.

I don't care you don't watch YT videos.  If you cannot watch the video, you cannot watch the video.

And you cannot explain why you think that car should melt in space.

Maybe you did watch the video, but you did not understand it. Probably because it is nonsense?

Anyway, ask me any question, I can try to explain it. I am an expert in physics!
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: Plat Terra on August 13, 2019, 11:56:10 PM
Can someone from the FE community let Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) and Elon Musk (Space X) know the earth is flat, so they can stop wasting billions of dollars.   At least they are wasting their own money and not tax payer money.

I think some Globe Community members should know Musk's Car in space is toast!

The Tesla Roadster Should Be Melting... [SPACE IS FAKE]


Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?

Why did you remove the video that explains the car melting in space from my quote? And then ask me "Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?"

Because I want you to explain it to me. In your own words. I do not watch YT videos. If you cannot explain it to me, you cannot explain it.

I don't care you don't watch YT videos.  If you cannot watch the video, you cannot watch the video.

And you cannot explain why you think that car should melt in space.

Maybe you did watch the video, but you did not understand it. Probably because it is nonsense?

Anyway, ask me any question, I can try to explain it. I am an expert in physics!

Why wouldn't Musk's Car melt in space?
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: Stash on August 14, 2019, 12:08:16 AM
Can someone from the FE community let Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) and Elon Musk (Space X) know the earth is flat, so they can stop wasting billions of dollars.   At least they are wasting their own money and not tax payer money.

I think some Globe Community members should know Musk's Car in space is toast!

The Tesla Roadster Should Be Melting... [SPACE IS FAKE]


Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?

Why did you remove the video that explains the car melting in space from my quote? And then ask me "Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?"

Because I want you to explain it to me. In your own words. I do not watch YT videos. If you cannot explain it to me, you cannot explain it.

I don't care you don't watch YT videos.  If you cannot watch the video, you cannot watch the video.

And you cannot explain why you think that car should melt in space.

Maybe you did watch the video, but you did not understand it. Probably because it is nonsense?

Anyway, ask me any question, I can try to explain it. I am an expert in physics!

Why wouldn't Musk's Car melt in space?

See, around here, we require more than just puking up a video or meme without rational intellect to summarize and stabilize the point we are trying to make. The craptastic video you posted without explanation/summation goes on about how the roadster would melt. And doesn't give even a good reason why other than when things get hot, they melt, ergo, the car should melt. Lovely. Super intelligent stuff. But if you dig a little deeper, you find all kinds of sciency explanations why something would or would not happen. And they are interesting and you may learn something from them.

Essentially, the space environment is real and it's undoubtedly harsh. Would it deform the roadster, over time, yes. Would it melt it like a stick of butter in a frying pan, science says no.

(https://i.stack.imgur.com/2wsd3.jpg)

"At Earth Orbit, the influx of energy from the Sun is about 1300 Watts per square meter. This is not far from the maximum we can have on the Earth surface. The atmosphere does dampen a bit, but at most we can get 1000 W per square meter at the equator when the Sun is at zenith.

The temperature of an object depends the flow of heat to it, and the flow of heat from it. If there is more heat coming in than is going out, the object heats up. When more heat is going out than is coming in, the object cools down. When these things are in balance, the temperature is stable.

On Earth, there are (chiefly) two things that brings heat to an object: the convection/conduction of the atmosphere, and radiation from the Sun. The atmosphere is a huge contributor there, at a balmy 300+ K in regions where we would even begin to consider melting plastics on an automobile. So the "baseline temperature" of an object in the Earth's atmosphere is 300 K.

Add to that another 1000 Watts per square meter from the Sun and you can have so much energy going into an object that it heats up and can eventually achieve temperatures that can melt plastic in/on a car. This is especially so if it is a coupé car, that traps warm atmosphere inside.

But in space, you do not have that atmosphere, and this was not a coupé but an open top car. Hence the baseline temperature of the car when in space is not 300+ K but 0 K.

So while the second contributing factor — solar radiation — is indeed 30% higher in space than it is on Earth, the lack of the first one — a warming atmosphere — completely negates that. The car will most likely freeze over time.
As for degradation: yes, that will happen over time. But not so much due to temperature as to ionising radiation. We are fortunate here on Earth to be living under a protective blanket that is the atmosphere that keeps away most of such nastiness. In space... no such luck. As the Roadster coasted around in the Van Allen belts for a few hours before being sent off for good, some people reported already seeing radiation damage on the windscreen, I assume some "yellowing" of the plastic laminate."
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: alex314 on August 14, 2019, 12:11:11 AM
Can someone from the FE community let Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) and Elon Musk (Space X) know the earth is flat, so they can stop wasting billions of dollars.   At least they are wasting their own money and not tax payer money.

I think some Globe Community members should know Musk's Car in space is toast!

The Tesla Roadster Should Be Melting... [SPACE IS FAKE]


Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?

Why did you remove the video that explains the car melting in space from my quote? And then ask me "Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?"

Because I want you to explain it to me. In your own words. I do not watch YT videos. If you cannot explain it to me, you cannot explain it.

I don't care you don't watch YT videos.  If you cannot watch the video, you cannot watch the video.

And you cannot explain why you think that car should melt in space.

Maybe you did watch the video, but you did not understand it. Probably because it is nonsense?

Anyway, ask me any question, I can try to explain it. I am an expert in physics!

Why wouldn't Musk's Car melt in space?

When the car is in space, it is mostly in vacuum. And because it is close to earth, it receives about the same amount of radiation energy as the earth, and the objects on earth. At the distance where earth is from the sun, this radiation is about 1 kW/m^2, no matter if you are in space or on earth (on earth its a bit less because of the atmosphere). But if that car would melt because of the radiation from the sun, so the cars would melt on earth. About the same radiation! But I rarely see cars melting in Geneva. In fact, not even close to be melting. They can become very hot (especially when they have a dark color, like black), but even then they do not melt.

I hope that explanation makes sense. If not, keep on asking questions!
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: alex314 on August 14, 2019, 12:12:23 AM
Wow! Two replies at the same time, with about the same content and the same numbers. The sphere model is consistent as hell!
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: turtles on August 14, 2019, 01:45:24 AM
Can someone from the FE community let Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) and Elon Musk (Space X) know the earth is flat, so they can stop wasting billions of dollars.   At least they are wasting their own money and not tax payer money.

I think some Globe Community members should know Musk's Car in space is toast!

The Tesla Roadster Should Be Melting... [SPACE IS FAKE]


Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?

Why did you remove the video that explains the car melting in space from my quote? And then ask me "Why should the car in space be melting? Based on what assumptions?"

Because I want you to explain it to me. In your own words. I do not watch YT videos. If you cannot explain it to me, you cannot explain it.

I don't care you don't watch YT videos.  If you cannot watch the video, you cannot watch the video.

And you cannot explain why you think that car should melt in space.

Maybe you did watch the video, but you did not understand it. Probably because it is nonsense?

Anyway, ask me any question, I can try to explain it. I am an expert in physics!

Why wouldn't Musk's Car melt in space?

For the same reasons the rocket it's on won't melt in space.
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: rvlvr on August 14, 2019, 02:01:59 AM
Can we be sure they have not melted? NASA has a lot of CGI muscle, you know.
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: alex314 on August 14, 2019, 04:01:37 AM
Can we be sure they have not melted? NASA has a lot of CGI muscle, you know.

Well, that Tesla car was not launched by NASA.
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: rvlvr on August 14, 2019, 05:01:53 AM
Can we be sure they have not melted? NASA has a lot of CGI muscle, you know.

Well, that Tesla car was not launched by NASA.
That does not matter to FE. It is all NASA.
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: frenat on August 14, 2019, 05:54:06 AM
Can someone from the FE community let Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) and Elon Musk (Space X) know the earth is flat, so they can stop wasting billions of dollars.   At least they are wasting their own money and not tax payer money.

I think some Globe Community members should know Musk's Car in space is toast!

The Tesla Roadster Should Be Melting... [SPACE IS FAKE]


so we can add the difference between temperature and heat to the vast list of topics you don't understand.
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: Space Cowgirl on August 14, 2019, 06:44:57 AM
Alright, I messaged Bezos and Musk. I'm sure they will stop what they're doing immediately.
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on August 14, 2019, 07:40:54 AM
Alright, I messaged Bezos and Musk. I'm sure they will stop what they're doing immediately.
Does this include sending dick pics?  As I'm getting a bit bored of them, to be honest.
Title: Re: Someone please let Bezos and Musk know the earth is flat
Post by: Space Cowgirl on August 14, 2019, 09:38:49 AM
Alright, I messaged Bezos and Musk. I'm sure they will stop what they're doing immediately.
Does this include sending dick pics?  As I'm getting a bit bored of them, to be honest.

No, I sent pics of my dogs instead.