Without us, how would your nutty hypotheses develop into nuttier hypotheses?
I don't wonder why round earthers are here, I wonder why the really angry ones stay.
Did you read about Sandokhan in the announcements? Some one copypasted his work into a book. I've read others say this place gives them ideas to write about.
I've been wondering lately: Why do round-Earthers (REers) come to the Flat-Earth Society? A quote commonly attributed to Einstein (probably incorrectly) says that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. REers come here (which is fine, it's an open forum) where they know they will find FEers, and they present the same old arguments over and over again. I don't think I've ever seen an original or new argument in favor of a RE. And I doubt that any FEer has ever been swayed over to the RE camp by these arguments. So why do they bother? I know why I'm here: To find like-minded people to have friendly chats with. But a REer on these forums must feel awfully frustrated. Why do they subject themselves to this? There must be more enjoyable ways to pass their free time than arguing with us incessantly. And yet they trudge on, never converting anyone, but keep up the same old Arguments day after day; year after year. I don't understand it.
I've been wondering lately: Why do round-Earthers (REers) come to the Flat-Earth Society? A quote commonly attributed to Einstein (probably incorrectly) says that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. REers come here (which is fine, it's an open forum) where they know they will find FEers, and they present the same old arguments over and over again. I don't think I've ever seen an original or new argument in favor of a RE. And I doubt that any FEer has ever been swayed over to the RE camp by these arguments. So why do they bother? I know why I'm here: To find like-minded people to have friendly chats with. But a REer on these forums must feel awfully frustrated. Why do they subject themselves to this? There must be more enjoyable ways to pass their free time than arguing with us incessantly. And yet they trudge on, never converting anyone, but keep up the same old Arguments day after day; year after year. I don't understand it.I had some posts that I hadn't seen on here before. One involving a laser and a plumb bob. Sheep boy (can't remember the username) let me know that lasers don't travel 10 miles.
I've been wondering lately: Why do round-Earthers (REers) come to the Flat-Earth Society? A quote commonly attributed to Einstein (probably incorrectly) says that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. REers come here (which is fine, it's an open forum) where they know they will find FEers, and they present the same old arguments over and over again. I don't think I've ever seen an original or new argument in favor of a RE. And I doubt that any FEer has ever been swayed over to the RE camp by these arguments. So why do they bother? I know why I'm here: To find like-minded people to have friendly chats with. But a REer on these forums must feel awfully frustrated. Why do they subject themselves to this? There must be more enjoyable ways to pass their free time than arguing with us incessantly. And yet they trudge on, never converting anyone, but keep up the same old Arguments day after day; year after year. I don't understand it.
I beg to differ. Rabinoz for one, I'm sure has been responsible for many potential flat earthers not becoming flat earthers, and many flat earthers abandoning the empty flat earth cult ideas. Prove he hasn't.
As "here to laugh at you" has rightly pointed out, the flat earth society also serves as a platform to get the truth out that the earth is not flat.
Furthermore, it acts as an educational platform for people with work backgrounds in physics or science, to post educational content in an attempt to educate. That education offers to break through some of the radicalisation with common sense.
There is a real danger for people buying into the flat earth idea and being radicalized. It's no different to ISIS recruiting it's members. Flat earth promises it's followers their life is not insignificant as they believe the globe earth model teaches it is.
Living your life as though the whole world is flat, for the most part is probably quite harmless, but do we have to sit back and wait for some nutjob extremist flat earther to sabotage a NASA spacecraft or attack a NASA employee and his/her family? Remember the Edmund Burke quote: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing." That is why longterm round earther posters like Rabinoz, are here.
What I don't understand, magellanclavicord, is if you only want to keep your head in the clouds with other like minded flat earth individuals, why not stay in the flat earth believers part of the forum? That's what it's there for and where your ideas are safe.
Why venture to this section, where the facts are scary, and where you know your belief structure will be challenged?
You want us to prove rabinoz hasn't done something?
"here to laugh at you" is one of those angry RE who is only here to troll.
The rest of your post is paranoid nonsense.
You want us to prove rabinoz hasn't done something?
"here to laugh at you" is one of those angry RE who is only here to troll.
The rest of your post is paranoid nonsense.
Yep, prove Rabinoz hasn't changed anybody's beliefs through his thousands of educational posts. Ofcourse he has. Oh, I'm sorry, did I just use a flat earth tactic to prove a negative, like prove the earth isn't flat? My bad.
Are you sure the rest of my post is paranoid nonsense? I know there are videos on YouTube where unhinged flat earthers childishly film themselves harassing famous astronauts and NASA employees.
Magellanclavicord, you seem to be an unusual exception to the rule. It doesn't make sense you can be a flat earther and also believe man landed on the moon.
You can't deny flat earthism can also lead proponents living a life where all authority, all education systems, all history, is not to be trusted and is full of lies. That can lead people to isolating themselves, not keeping up to date with news, and losing faith in humanity in general. That can be potentially dangerous to individuals.
I just like talking to crazy people...
https://xkcd.com/386/ (https://xkcd.com/386/)
I've been wondering lately: Why do round-Earthers (REers) come to the Flat-Earth Society? A quote commonly attributed to Einstein (probably incorrectly) says that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. REers come here (which is fine, it's an open forum) where they know they will find FEers, and they present the same old arguments over and over again. I don't think I've ever seen an original or new argument in favor of a RE. And I doubt that any FEer has ever been swayed over to the RE camp by these arguments. So why do they bother? I know why I'm here: To find like-minded people to have friendly chats with. But a REer on these forums must feel awfully frustrated. Why do they subject themselves to this? There must be more enjoyable ways to pass their free time than arguing with us incessantly. And yet they trudge on, never converting anyone, but keep up the same old Arguments day after day; year after year. I don't understand it.
Who was the 4th horseman?
I don't wonder why round earthers are here, I wonder why the really angry ones stay.
I've been wondering lately: Why do round-Earthers (REers) come to the Flat-Earth Society? A quote commonly attributed to Einstein (probably incorrectly) says that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. REers come here (which is fine, it's an open forum) where they know they will find FEers, and they present the same old arguments over and over again. I don't think I've ever seen an original or new argument in favor of a RE. And I doubt that any FEer has ever been swayed over to the RE camp by these arguments. So why do they bother? I know why I'm here: To find like-minded people to have friendly chats with. But a REer on these forums must feel awfully frustrated. Why do they subject themselves to this? There must be more enjoyable ways to pass their free time than arguing with us incessantly. And yet they trudge on, never converting anyone, but keep up the same old Arguments day after day; year after year. I don't understand it.
It's my first day.
I don't wonder why round earthers are here, I wonder why the really angry ones stay.
People love to complain and be angry. It makes them feel good.
Hello FlatOrange!Hello!! *waves emphatically*
Hello FlatOrange!Hello!! *waves emphatically*
It's like watching politics, like watching which democrat candidate can "out-left" the other candidates!Uhh may i interrupt ?
Entertainment, with a sprinkling of education.
Sorry Space Reverse Cowgirl, I am not the least bit angry! ;D
That being said, the Earth is oblate spheroid.
Prove me wrong!
Dutchy, may I interrupt? Not that I'd bother waiting for permission from an ignorant upstart like you.That being said, the Earth is oblate spheroid.Uhh may i interrupt ?
Prove me wrong!
One of your overlords claimed that ignorant people still claim the earth is an oblate spheroid, while in fact it's pear shaped... a little chubbier under the equator.
So no... i really have to correct you again.. calling earth an 'oblade spheroid' was yesterdays nametag in globeland......it's pearshaped now !Don't bother! , a little ignorant person like you knows far too little ob a topic to be trying to correct anybody!
The geoid is the shape that the surface of the oceans would take under the influence of Earth's gravitation and rotation alone, in the absence of other influences such as winds and tides.
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If RE'ers didn't come here, what would you FE'ers talk about.
Because your views are interesting and i want to know how you came to find these views.
As you said - whats life without divesity.
But you want ot remain mysterious.
Hello FlatOrange!Hello!! *waves emphatically*
Hi. FlatOrange!
Dutchy, may I interrupt? Not that I'd bother waiting for permission from an ignorant upstart like you.O yes .... what did i read in another topic ?
So, butt out with you pretensions of great knowledge!
PS Neil de Grasse Tyson is nobody's overlord but he does know so much more
Rabinoz who is from the beginning, gazing over the Greek see to confirm what he knows for thousends of years and more....Or so your own fantasy says but the Greeks just started it and the evidence found since fits the Globe and not a Pancake Planet.
Since you seem to have nothing but your arrogance to support your fiction maybe I could borrow, "Your arrogance has no limitation....?".Your arrogance has no limitation.... has it ?
You seem to think I have an obligation to answer your questions or even to talk to you. Wrong. Plenty of folks here are happy to argue with you. I don't understand your fixation on me.
Okay, back to not responding. :-*
Hello FlatOrange!Hello!! *waves emphatically*
Hi. FlatOrange!
Hello magellanclavichord!! Nice to meet you! ;D
Magellanclavicord, this is a flat earth forum where flat earth principles are discussed. If you want to discuss macrame, or recipes for chicken soup, maybe you'll find what you're looking for in the lounge?
As for the topic, I never suggested all people who believe the earth to be flat to be unhinged. But, the unhinged ones do tend to draw attention and have extreme hatred towards NASA. I totally agree there are more unhinged individuals in the world who believe the earth is a globe.
The danger with flat earth belief though, is that normally excludes one from participating in current world affairs. How can a flat earther engage in open discussion about the international space station, space travel, the moon, moon landings, fear of asteroids, the earth's relationship with the sun and moon, without there being disbelief? North Korea's long range nuclear missile capability, is radically changed between the accepted globe earth model and any flat earth model. How the hell does a flat earther explain tectonic plates, earth quakes, and tidal waves.
These are real life events which happen and are explained through understanding the earth as a globe.
I mean if flat earthers think everything is a lie, do they not heed earthquake warnings, tsunamis, meteor showers, until it's too late? An asteroid warning might sound ridiculous to the flat earther who do not believe in space.
It can be a dangerous belief in that sense also. The argument it is just diversity in belief, is a bit incorrect when you start looking more into it.
That's why having round earthers here isn't necessarily a bad thing.
There's a thread in the FE believers forum just for complaining about RE members!Look a liitle gift my funny friend.....
Statred by the King of angry flatties, wise!
So, without the RE component, this may as well be a knitting forum. Or perhaps a crocodile vs alligator forum, since dutchwad would likely still be involved.
Hello FlatOrange!Hello!! *waves emphatically*
Hi. FlatOrange!
Hello magellanclavichord!! Nice to meet you! ;D
Likewise!Magellanclavicord, this is a flat earth forum where flat earth principles are discussed. If you want to discuss macrame, or recipes for chicken soup, maybe you'll find what you're looking for in the lounge?
As for the topic, I never suggested all people who believe the earth to be flat to be unhinged. But, the unhinged ones do tend to draw attention and have extreme hatred towards NASA. I totally agree there are more unhinged individuals in the world who believe the earth is a globe.
The danger with flat earth belief though, is that normally excludes one from participating in current world affairs. How can a flat earther engage in open discussion about the international space station, space travel, the moon, moon landings, fear of asteroids, the earth's relationship with the sun and moon, without there being disbelief? North Korea's long range nuclear missile capability, is radically changed between the accepted globe earth model and any flat earth model. How the hell does a flat earther explain tectonic plates, earth quakes, and tidal waves.
These are real life events which happen and are explained through understanding the earth as a globe.
I mean if flat earthers think everything is a lie, do they not heed earthquake warnings, tsunamis, meteor showers, until it's too late? An asteroid warning might sound ridiculous to the flat earther who do not believe in space.
It can be a dangerous belief in that sense also. The argument it is just diversity in belief, is a bit incorrect when you start looking more into it.
That's why having round earthers here isn't necessarily a bad thing.
All of which is why I try to convince my fellow flat-Earthers that all that stuff is real: Gravity and space and the moon landings. And I try to convince my fellow flat-Earthers that NASA is actually what it seems to be: Not an evil cabal with nefarious purposes, but just an agency that launches satellites and takes pictures of weather patterns, etc. And that earthquakes and tsunamis and plate tectonics and climate change are all real. And that scientists are not lying to us.
Both sides think there's something wrong with me but I plod on. :)
And thank you for your very thoughtful answer to the question in my OP.
There's a thread in the FE believers forum just for complaining about RE members!
Statred by the King of angry flatties, wise!
So, without the RE component, this may as well be a knitting forum. Or perhaps a crocodile vs alligator forum, since dutchwad would likely still be involved.
I've been wondering lately: Why do round-Earthers (REers) come to the Flat-Earth Society? A quote commonly attributed to Einstein (probably incorrectly) says that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. REers come here (which is fine, it's an open forum) where they know they will find FEers, and they present the same old arguments over and over again. I don't think I've ever seen an original or new argument in favor of a RE. And I doubt that any FEer has ever been swayed over to the RE camp by these arguments. So why do they bother? I know why I'm here: To find like-minded people to have friendly chats with. But a REer on these forums must feel awfully frustrated. Why do they subject themselves to this? There must be more enjoyable ways to pass their free time than arguing with us incessantly. And yet they trudge on, never converting anyone, but keep up the same old Arguments day after day; year after year. I don't understand it.
I mean if flat earthers think everything is a lie, do they not heed earthquake warnings, tsunamis, meteor showers, until it's too late? An asteroid warning might sound ridiculous to the flat earther who do not believe in space.
It can be a dangerous belief in that sense also.
I mean if flat earthers think everything is a lie, do they not heed earthquake warnings, tsunamis, meteor showers, until it's too late? An asteroid warning might sound ridiculous to the flat earther who do not believe in space.
It can be a dangerous belief in that sense also.
Can I just add climate change (aka global warming).
I mean if flat earthers think everything is a lie, do they not heed earthquake warnings, tsunamis, meteor showers, until it's too late? An asteroid warning might sound ridiculous to the flat earther who do not believe in space.
It can be a dangerous belief in that sense also.
Can I just add climate change (aka global warming).
No, earthquakes, tsunamis, and climate change are observable. I've never heard of a warning for a meteor shower, are they supposed to be dangerous?
I mean if flat earthers think everything is a lie, do they not heed earthquake warnings, tsunamis, meteor showers, until it's too late? An asteroid warning might sound ridiculous to the flat earther who do not believe in space.
It can be a dangerous belief in that sense also.
Can I just add climate change (aka global warming).
No, earthquakes, tsunamis, and climate change are observable. I've never heard of a warning for a meteor shower, are they supposed to be dangerous?
There's a thread in the FE believers forum just for complaining about RE members!
Statred by the King of angry flatties, wise!
So, without the RE component, this may as well be a knitting forum. Or perhaps a crocodile vs alligator forum, since dutchwad would likely still be involved.
So because one rather immature FEer complains about REers (and BTW, he complains about FEers also) you conclude that without REers this would be a knitting forum? That's kind of silly. But of course, as I've said over and over, everybody's welcome here regardless of what shape they think the Earth is. And some people are here to debate and others are here for other reasons. It's all good. We are the 1%. That is, the 1% of the internet that's neither porn nor cat videos. ;)
Yes, without RE here to call you flatties out on your incredible bullshirt, this would be no different than a knitting forum.
one big uninterrupted circle-jerk!
I mean if flat earthers think everything is a lie, do they not heed earthquake warnings, tsunamis, meteor showers, until it's too late? An asteroid warning might sound ridiculous to the flat earther who do not believe in space.
It can be a dangerous belief in that sense also.
Can I just add climate change (aka global warming).
No, earthquakes, tsunamis, and climate change are observable. I've never heard of a warning for a meteor shower, are they supposed to be dangerous?
“Showers” of little ones aren’t. Bigger ones are a serious threat.
Remember this?
I don’t think there were serious injuries that time, but if it had come in at a different angle and hit the ground instead of exploding in the atmosphere it would have been bad. Obviously the bigger the rock, the more damage it could do as well.
That’s why people are hard at work cataloguing and calculating orbits for as many that cross our path as they can. Hopefully, if there’s any big risks out there, they’ll be spotted in time for us to do something about.
As for global (flatal?) warming. Monitoring the situation involves satellites, models, projections and the whole science of trying to understand it as well as possible based on heliocentric system.
Flat Earth ideas would make a nonsense out of all that. As well as potentially just degrading public faith in established science.
There’s a multi trillion dollar industry that would like us to believe we can carry on much as we do now. I wouldn’t be surprised if we eventually find some of their fingerprints on the flat earth movement.
That’s just idol speculation. But no worse than flat earthers conspiracy tendencies.