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Title: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: N30 on January 23, 2019, 12:48:40 PM


They are a joke. Space X is worse than NASA.
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: Crutchwater on January 23, 2019, 02:01:03 PM
You mad that your step dad couldn't afford a trampoline? or balloons even?


They're obviously testing their fairing recovery system, and maybe playing with a balloon.

So what?
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: dutchy on January 23, 2019, 04:26:52 PM
Space-X vid ?
Where are the applauding and cheering actors employees who show joy rarely found elsewhere in life as we know it, when space-X shows or accomplishes one of it’s futuristic highlights.
The sheer outpoor of emotions they express resembles what people feel when their long lost loved ones return home...

Bummer..... no joyous Space-X staff in this video..... hopefully next time  ::)
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: rabinoz on January 23, 2019, 04:53:24 PM


They are a joke. Space X is worse than NASA.
Ignorant little people, like YOU, with no understanding of these things can only stand on the side-line and ridicule.
Others, knowing what SpaceX is attempting and why they are doing it can wonder if it is even possible.

Yet some years ago many said that landing the first of a rocket back on land let alone on a barge was quite impossible.

But SpaceX went ahead and did just that and not it is common practice for them when the full launch capacity is not needed.
Here, enjoy:

FALCON 9 ALL SUCCESSFUL LANDINGS, The Real Slim Brady

The joke around here, N30, is you and those ignorant ones like you whose only debating tactic is continual ridicule.
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: Crutchwater on January 23, 2019, 06:04:03 PM
Space-X vid ?
Where are the applauding and cheering actors employees who show joy rarely found elsewhere in life as we know it, when space-X shows or accomplishes one of it’s futuristic highlights.
The sheer outpoor of emotions they express resembles what people feel when their long lost loved ones return home...

Bummer..... no joyous Space-X staff in this video..... hopefully next time  ::)

What's the matter DutChy?

I had you pegged as a tree hugging environmentalist.

Are you not pleased that SpaceX is attempting to keep waste and costs down by RECYCLING components from their launches?
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: wise on January 23, 2019, 07:59:40 PM


They are a joke. Space X is worse than NASA.

So we'll see these Balloons and Trampolines in Moon, Mars, Jupiter, Neptun and wherever Mark wants soon.  ;D
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: markjo on January 23, 2019, 08:14:03 PM
They're obviously testing their fairing recovery system, and maybe playing with a balloon.
Balloons are often used to determine wind conditions at altitude.
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: Stash on January 23, 2019, 08:51:33 PM


They are a joke. Space X is worse than NASA.

I'm confused. What does this video have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: Unconvinced on January 24, 2019, 02:07:50 AM
What's the matter DutChy?

I had you pegged as a tree hugging environmentalist.

Are you not pleased that SpaceX is attempting to keep waste and costs down by RECYCLING components from their launches?

I know this isn't the solid rocket booster recovery system, but I'm going to mention it anyway because they've made such a big about it, and it bothers me slightly.

It looks cool and everything, but the space shuttle SRBs were actually recovered and reused.  Only the big orange liquid fuel tank was expendable.  The ESA's Ariane-5 uses the same system now for it's SRBs (there may be others).   Both with a far simpler and more fuel efficient system - parachutes.

The main problem is splashing down in the ocean isn't particularly good for the engines, which have to be completely stripped, cleaned and inspected before they can be reused.

So as far as I can tell, there's no actual environmental benefit to Space X's fancy system, it's just more efficient in terms of time and manpower.  Although maybe Space X's engines are more prone to damage from landing in the sea?

Anyway the whole thing seems a bit mis-sold to the public to me.   
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: Crutchwater on January 24, 2019, 02:59:28 AM
Mr Steven is not designed to recover booster engines. It's designed to catch the payload fairings, which are typically not recovered. I don't recall the exact cost, but I think they're around 1.5 million dollars each...

Anyway, I was mostly just pulling DuTchy's chain, as usual.
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: Unconvinced on January 24, 2019, 05:39:54 AM
Yeah, I did admit I was going off topic a bit.

But since there didn’t seem to be any actual point in the topic to start with, I figured that was OK.

Wait.  A million and a half each?  Really?
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: dutchy on January 24, 2019, 06:01:38 AM

Anyway, I was mostly just pulling DuTchy's chain, as usual.
You sound obsessed with me, i’d like you to put all this negative energy in improving your guitar skills. Deal ?
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: wise on January 24, 2019, 07:16:56 AM


They are a joke. Space X is worse than NASA.

I'm confused. What does this video have to do with anything?

Change the background and they will be there wherever you want with a few computer working.  ;)
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: markjo on January 24, 2019, 11:13:28 AM
Mr Steven is not designed to recover booster engines. It's designed to catch the payload fairings, which are typically not recovered. I don't recall the exact cost, but I think they're around 1.5 million dollars each...

Anyway, I was mostly just pulling DuTchy's chain, as usual.
If Elon Musk is to be believed, then the fairing cost is about $6 million.
https://www.space.com/40509-spacex-payload-fairing-parafoil-photo.html
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: sceptimatic on January 24, 2019, 11:24:09 AM
6 million for a cover.
Anything to add dollars to the the nonsense kitty.
In time it'll likely cost 5 billion for the self peeling mickey mouse effigy they'll put on a rocket and return to Earth via a mini mouse pinafore chute to land smack bang in the middle of a specially made sailing mouse trap.  ::)
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: Crutchwater on January 24, 2019, 12:27:43 PM
Mr Steven is not designed to recover booster engines. It's designed to catch the payload fairings, which are typically not recovered. I don't recall the exact cost, but I think they're around 1.5 million dollars each...

Anyway, I was mostly just pulling DuTchy's chain, as usual.
If Elon Musk is to be believed, then the fairing cost is about $6 million.
https://www.space.com/40509-spacex-payload-fairing-parafoil-photo.html

No wonder they want them back!
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: markjo on January 25, 2019, 06:43:51 AM
BTW, I don't see anything in the fairing recovery process that contradicts FET.
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: Unconvinced on January 25, 2019, 07:42:59 AM
Mr Steven is not designed to recover booster engines. It's designed to catch the payload fairings, which are typically not recovered. I don't recall the exact cost, but I think they're around 1.5 million dollars each...

Anyway, I was mostly just pulling DuTchy's chain, as usual.
If Elon Musk is to be believed, then the fairing cost is about $6 million.
https://www.space.com/40509-spacex-payload-fairing-parafoil-photo.html

No wonder they want them back!

Unless $5 999 000 of that is to make them recoverable.
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: dutchy on January 25, 2019, 07:57:57 AM
6 million for a cover.
Anything to add dollars to the the nonsense kitty.
In time it'll likely cost 5 billion for the self peeling mickey mouse effigy they'll put on a rocket and return to Earth via a mini mouse pinafore chute to land smack bang in the middle of a specially made sailing mouse trap.  ::)
;D ;D ;D
Musk & co can claim whatever they want, he truly has a carte blanche in ‘space’...
Maybe time to really test the general public’s gullabilty Elon ?
‘A future moon base with a fiber optic cable all the way back to earth ‘?
The general public would love it...
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: sokarul on January 25, 2019, 08:21:05 AM
He is going to put internet satellites into space, why would he run a cable to the moon?

Think before you type.
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: dutchy on January 25, 2019, 10:25:56 AM
He is going to put internet satellites into space, why would he run a cable to the moon?

Think before you type.
;D ;D
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: markjo on January 25, 2019, 08:42:00 PM
6 million for a cover.
Anything to add dollars to the the nonsense kitty.
In time it'll likely cost 5 billion for the self peeling mickey mouse effigy they'll put on a rocket and return to Earth via a mini mouse pinafore chute to land smack bang in the middle of a specially made sailing mouse trap.  ::)
Actually, the whole point of recovering the payload fairing and the first stage booster is to make space flight cheaper, not more expensive.  As it is, SpaceX is charging half or less than the competition for comparable satellite launch services.
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: rabinoz on January 25, 2019, 10:14:32 PM
He is going to put internet satellites into space, why would he run a cable to the moon?

Think before you type.
Stop making unwarranted assumptions about dutchy.
To be able to "Think before he types" he would need a brain, but like "the Scarecrow reveals that he lacks a brain and desires above all else to have one".

But on that note, look what I found: Optical fibre made in orbit should be better than the terrestrial sort, It will have fewer flaws and longer lengths. (https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2018/09/06/optical-fibre-made-in-orbit-should-be-better-than-the-terrestrial-sort)

More commercial space launches for SpaceX coming up ;)!
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: dutchy on January 26, 2019, 12:04:32 AM
He is going to put internet satellites into space, why would he run a cable to the moon?

Think before you type.
Stop making unwarranted assumptions about dutchy.
To be able to "Think before he types" he would need a brain, but like "the Scarecrow reveals that he lacks a brain and desires above all else to have one".

But on that note, look what I found: Optical fibre made in orbit should be better than the terrestrial sort, It will have fewer flaws and longer lengths. (https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2018/09/06/optical-fibre-made-in-orbit-should-be-better-than-the-terrestrial-sort)

More commercial space launches for SpaceX coming up ;)!
You wouldn’t regocnice satire begging on ‘it’s’ knees to get your attention, grumpy old man.

Btw , why did you sneek out of the topic where i presented that Neil Armstrong said he had a 50-50 chance of actually landing the lander on the moon ?( very much  contradictory to your ‘they were on top of every possible circomstances because of superb testing prior to Apollo 11)
Go back and take your losses for once, you stubborn indoctrinated and irresponsable defender of all that is wrong with the world today.

Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: rabinoz on January 26, 2019, 03:03:09 AM
He is going to put internet satellites into space, why would he run a cable to the moon?

Think before you type.
Stop making unwarranted assumptions about dutchy.
To be able to "Think before he types" he would need a brain, but like "the Scarecrow reveals that he lacks a brain and desires above all else to have one".

But on that note, look what I found: Optical fibre made in orbit should be better than the terrestrial sort, It will have fewer flaws and longer lengths. (https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2018/09/06/optical-fibre-made-in-orbit-should-be-better-than-the-terrestrial-sort)

More commercial space launches for SpaceX coming up ;)!
You wouldn’t regocnice satire bagging on ‘it’s’ knees to get your attention.
And neither would it would seem that you can recognise it in ;)! Do you think that I meant this literally ;D ;D?
"Stop making unwarranted assumptions about dutchy.
To be able to 'Think before he types' he would need a brain, but like 'the Scarecrow reveals that he lacks a brain and desires above all else to have one'."

I answered the rest of your ignorant assertions in the other thread where it belonged, so look there:
Re: Why would NASA claim Earth is round? « Reply #70 on: Today at 08:57:04 PM » (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=79106.msg2140563#msg2140563) but you might wish you hadn't ;D.
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: Unconvinced on January 26, 2019, 04:51:59 AM

Btw , why did you sneek out of the topic where i presented that Neil Armstrong said he had a 50-50 chance of actually landing the lander on the moon ?( very much  contradictory to your ‘they were on top of every possible circomstances because of superb testing prior to Apollo 11)
Go back and take your losses for once, you stubborn indoctrinated and irresponsable defender of all that is wrong with the world today.

Is "sneaking out" of a topic considered admission of defeat in your mind?  Does making the last post mean the argument is won?

In which case, I declare myself the champion and you the loser of the "Why is NASA so rubbish at fakery?"  thread:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=79091.0

Whoo-hoo!

[dances around living room]

Winner!
Winner!
Winner!
Winner!
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: N30 on January 28, 2019, 10:58:26 AM


I guess they finally realized what a dumb idea catching falling space junk with a fishnet was.
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: Crutchwater on January 28, 2019, 11:04:26 AM
I'm sure they read your OP, and canceled the program...
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: sceptimatic on January 28, 2019, 12:18:10 PM
6 million for a cover.
Anything to add dollars to the the nonsense kitty.
In time it'll likely cost 5 billion for the self peeling mickey mouse effigy they'll put on a rocket and return to Earth via a mini mouse pinafore chute to land smack bang in the middle of a specially made sailing mouse trap.  ::)
;D ;D ;D
Musk & co can claim whatever they want, he truly has a carte blanche in ‘space’...
Maybe time to really test the general public’s gullabilty Elon ?
‘A future moon base with a fiber optic cable all the way back to earth ‘?
The general public would love it...
Yeah and he can achieve it by putting a rocket motor in the centre of a big cable laying ocean going ship, tipping it vertical and have the exhaust just cascade from the port and starboard so that ship can just kick its own guts into a frenzy whilst unrolling the cable.

 ;D
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: markjo on January 29, 2019, 01:20:43 PM


I guess they finally realized what a dumb idea catching falling space junk with a fishnet was.
Or, maybe they took the arms off so that Mr. Steven would have an easier time going through the Panama Canal so that it can try some east coast fairing recoveries.
https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-fairing-catcher-mr-steven-panama-canal-final-drop-test/
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Iconic fairing recovery vessel Mr. Steven appears to have quietly departed for SpaceX’s Florida launch facilities a few days after completing (successfully or not) one final controlled fairing catch test in the Pacific Ocean.

While bittersweet for those that have closely followed the vessel’s development and many attempted Falcon fairing recoveries, this move should ultimately give Mr. Steven around three times as many opportunities to attempt fairing recoveries thanks to SpaceX’s significantly higher East Coast launch cadence.
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: N30 on January 29, 2019, 01:53:37 PM


Space X Employees hard at work 1/28/2019
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: Stash on January 29, 2019, 02:09:20 PM


Space X Employees hard at work 1/28/2019

Ummm, this is 15 minutes of workers moving ladders around and such? Quite the smoking gun evidence for what exactly?
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: N30 on January 29, 2019, 03:52:09 PM
I just thought it was interesting watching the general lax nature of Space X employees.
As well as how they love the radio station that reminds everyone when its 4:20 and plays a song about "moderation".
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: Stash on January 29, 2019, 04:07:09 PM
I just thought it was interesting watching the general lax nature of Space X employees.
As well as how they love the radio station that reminds everyone when its 4:20 and plays a song about "moderation".

5 employees doing whatever they do out of around 6000. What nature would you prefer them to exhibit? Are they circus animals not living up to your expectations somehow?
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: markjo on January 29, 2019, 04:16:26 PM
I just thought it was interesting watching the general lax nature of Space X employees.
As well as how they love the radio station that reminds everyone when its 4:20 and plays a song about "moderation".
If they're properly prepared and competent at their jobs, then so what?  Do you think that they should be in a hurry for something or other?
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: rabinoz on January 29, 2019, 04:22:34 PM

Space X Employees hard at work 1/28/2019
And Mr N30 has no idea what they are doing so, as any ignoramus would, he just ridicules

In the meantime SpaceX get on with developing their "fairing recovery system":
       
Now YOU show us anything comparable that YOU are doing.
Title: Re: Space X Playing With Balloons and Trampolines 1/23/2019
Post by: Ski on January 29, 2019, 04:52:40 PM
Seems very sturdy and safe...

https://www.ksat.com/news/high-winds-blow-over-damage-spacex-rocket-in-rio-grande-valley

(http://i68.tinypic.com/6s7zae.jpg)